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 RationalEgo
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 The term 'Liberal'
#11460640 - 11/15/09 02:08 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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In the name of the true classical liberals that presented philisophical arguments in favor of freedom and opposed to opression, I hereby strip all socialists of the title 'liberal' as like everything else they try to steal, they have not earned such a term.
What say ye?
Edited by RationalEgo (11/15/09 02:15 PM)
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Prisoner#1
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the term liberal in modern usage means that they are liberal with spending your
paycheck, much like a spouse but you get twice the fucking with out the sex
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RationalEgo
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the term liberal in modern usage means that they are liberal with spending your
paycheck, much like a spouse but you get twice the fucking with out the sex
So true!
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 zappaisgod
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Your Rational Egotism leads you to believe that you can control the language. What you say about classical liberalism is entirely correct but the current usage of the word "liberal" as accepted by native speakers of the language has come to mean something else. Something evil. Too bad. It should be called by it's proper name. Hell.
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Ferris
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Liberal or conservative have no concrete definition outside the contexts that they are used in. They are meant to be relative terms to a period and setting's centrist or status quo ideology.
To pretend a 100 year old definition carries any contemporary relevancy is to completely misunderstand the concept.
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RationalEgo
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zappaisgod said:
Your Rational Egotism leads you to believe that you can control the language.
You obviously failed to grasp the snarky tone of my original post. 
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RationalEgo
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Re: The term 'Liberal' [Re: Ferris]
#11460747 - 11/15/09 02:21 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ferris said:
To pretend a 100 year old definition carries any contemporary relevancy is to completely misunderstand the concept.
Socialists such as yourself hijacked the term and took it as your own.
In the context of the meaning that Pris defined, it is certainly an apt term.
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Ferris
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RationalEgo said:
Socialists such as yourself hijacked the term and took it as your own.
In the context of the meaning that Pris defined, it is certainly an apt term.
The term is meant to be hijaacked. You didn't even read my post...
Your motivation is clearly wishful thinking that you can magically revert to past political contexts. Welcome to the 21st century bubs, this isn't the 19th.
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RationalEgo
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Re: The term 'Liberal' [Re: Ferris]
#11460818 - 11/15/09 02:32 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ferris said:
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RationalEgo said:
Socialists such as yourself hijacked the term and took it as your own.
In the context of the meaning that Pris defined, it is certainly an apt term.
The term is meant to be hijaacked.
Not by individuals espousing polar opposite principles its not.
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Your motivation is clearly wishful thinking that you can magically revert to past political contexts.
Nope, my motivation is to disarm you of a term that has carried and still carries a benign connotation that you hide behind.
Socialism is anything but benign. The cancer is real and rampant.
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Ferris
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edit: dont start insulting people just because you think you can, provide a rational answer without resorting to childishness
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Edited by Prisoner#1 (11/15/09 02:52 PM)
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Ferris
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Re: The term 'Liberal' [Re: Ferris]
#11460888 - 11/15/09 02:41 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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I destroyed this thread with my first post. You can't defend against my argument because your own consists of opening a 100 year old dictionary.
/end thread
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zappaisgod
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Quote:
RationalEgo said:
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zappaisgod said:
Your Rational Egotism leads you to believe that you can control the language.
You obviously failed to grasp the snarky tone of my original post.
I didn't. I intended mine the same way.
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"A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to society, and wishes to pay it with your money."
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Ferris
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Re: The term 'Liberal' [Re: Shins]
#11460956 - 11/15/09 02:49 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shins said:
"A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to society, and wishes to pay it with your money."
Turn off Fox News.
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RationalEgo
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Re: The term 'Liberal' [Re: Ferris]
#11460973 - 11/15/09 02:50 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ferris said:
I destroyed this thread with my first post. You can't defend against my argument because your own consists of opening a 100 year old dictionary.
/end thread
You destroyed nothing, but you have attempted to whitewash history and also have not contested that the term was indeed highjacked. Your arguments Sir, have been destroyed. You cannot ignore history.
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Ferris said:
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Shins said:
"A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to society, and wishes to pay it with your money."
Turn off Fox News.
Explain how the quote is not true. Fox News has nothing to do with the quote.
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Ferris
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It's off topic and overly simplistic. You can't represent reality with a one-liner. That's a key propaganda technique. Government always uses "other people's money" or inversely, they always use their own money. One can be existential that way and make their argument "bulletproof," but that doesn't make it any less of a bullshit argument.
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Re: The term 'Liberal' [Re: Ferris]
#11460995 - 11/15/09 02:52 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ferris said:
I destroyed this thread with my first post. You can't defend against my argument because your own consists of opening a 100 year old dictionary.
/end thread
what first post?
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Re: The term 'Liberal' [Re: Ferris]
#11461008 - 11/15/09 02:54 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Ferris said:
Liberal or conservative have no concrete definition outside the contexts that they are used in. They are meant to be relative terms to a period and setting's centrist or status quo ideology.
To pretend a 100 year old definition carries any contemporary relevancy is to completely misunderstand the concept.
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RationalEgo
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Re: The term 'Liberal' [Re: Ferris]
#11461041 - 11/15/09 02:58 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ferris said:
Liberal or conservative have no concrete definition outside the contexts that they are used in.
Yup, and that context is called 'Reality'.
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They are meant to be relative terms to a period and setting's centrist or status quo ideology.
So you can ignore the historical context of the term perhaps? What is wrong with just openly calling yourself socialist? Too much historical context (murder, starvation, oppression) in that term for your liking?
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To pretend a 100 year old definition carries any contemporary relevancy is to completely misunderstand the concept.
You hijacked the term. The concept was created to refer to a particular ideology. The term liberal now means nothing but an indicator of a socialist ideology with a benign sounding connotation that you hide behind.
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zappaisgod
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Another term hijacked by the thieves; "Progressive" Which is just a laugh riot considering they stand foursquare against any notion of progress whatsoever.
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