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 Tropism
better to hold fast to the void
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 Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: RationalEgo]
#11432544 - 11/11/09 10:35 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Not sure if these are doubles.
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If God is willing to prevent evil, but is not able to
Then He is not omnipotent.
If He is able, but not willing
Then He is malevolent.
If He is both able and willing
Then whence cometh evil?
If He is neither able nor willing
Then why call Him God?
--Epicurus
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"There is only one way to happiness and that is to cease worrying about things which are beyond the power of our will." -- Epictetus
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"The highest purpose of intellectual culture is to give a man perfect knowledge and mastery of his own inner self." - Novalis
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Tropism
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Tropism]
#11432554 - 11/11/09 10:36 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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And just for you, PS&P.. 
THE TRUTH IS FIVE BUT MEN HAVE ONLY ONE NAME FOR IT. -Patamunzo Lingananda
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 Silversoul
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Tropism]
#11432612 - 11/11/09 10:44 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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"I think we should potty-train the world so we don't have to keep changing it." -- Swami Beyondananda
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yogabunny
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Silversoul]
#11432668 - 11/11/09 10:53 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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"The goal of life is to make your heartbeat match the beat of the universe, to match your nature with Nature." - Joseph Campbell
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Mush 4 Brains
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Silversoul]
#11432683 - 11/11/09 10:56 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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"The end of society is as unthinkable as it is inevitable."
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Icelander
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Tropism]
#11433259 - 11/11/09 12:30 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Tropism said:
Not sure if these are doubles.
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If God is willing to prevent evil, but is not able to
Then He is not omnipotent.
If He is able, but not willing
Then He is malevolent.
If He is both able and willing
Then whence cometh evil?
If He is neither able nor willing
Then why call Him God?
--Epicurus
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"There is only one way to happiness and that is to cease worrying about things which are beyond the power of our will." -- Epictetus
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"The highest purpose of intellectual culture is to give a man perfect knowledge and mastery of his own inner self." - Novalis
Love these boys.
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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Icelander
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Silversoul]
#11433270 - 11/11/09 12:30 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Silversoul said:
"I think we should potty-train the world so we don't have to keep changing it." -- Swami Beyondananda
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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simc
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Tropism]
#11437826 - 11/11/09 09:52 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
"There is only one way to happiness and that is to cease worrying about things which are beyond the power of our will." -- Epictetus
I think this is a noble ideal, although achieving both caution and indifference (Epictetus 2.1) I've found not easy to put into practice. It is much easier to be either indifferent to fate yet unmotivated or motivated because you are worried about your fate. To be indifferent to fate yet motivated I guess requires much Stoic training.
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Icelander
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: simc]
#11439146 - 11/12/09 07:15 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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This quote was the inspiration for Elbert Ellis in creating Rational Emotive Therapy. You might want to check that out for some helpful tips.
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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RationalEgo
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Icelander]
#11439508 - 11/12/09 08:56 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.--Aldous Huxley
Aristotle may be regarded as the cultural barometer of Western history. Whenever his influence dominated the scene, it paved the way for one of history's brilliant eras; whenever it fell, so did mankind.--Ayn Rand
If it is now the belief of my fellow men, who call themselves the public, that their good requires victims, then I say: The public good be damned, I will have no part of it!-- Ayn Rand
Thinking to get at once all the gold the Goose could give, he killed it and opened it only to find,- nothing. --Aesop
Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowlege: it is those who know little, and not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science.--Charles Darwin
Believing there is no God gives me more room for belief in family, people, love, truth, beauty, sex, Jell-o, and all the other things I can prove and that make this life the best life I will ever have.--Penn Jillette
We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart.--H.L. Mencken
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Lion
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: RationalEgo]
#11439547 - 11/12/09 09:07 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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"Do not forget: A man needs little to lead a happy life." ~Marcus Aurelius
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Lion]
#11439596 - 11/12/09 09:19 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Easily said as the ruler of the Roman Empire.
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Silversoul
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Lakefingers]
#11439627 - 11/12/09 09:25 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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"No, you're not thinking. You're just being rational." -- Neils Bohr
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Edited by Silversoul (11/12/09 09:40 AM)
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Icelander
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: RationalEgo]
#11439656 - 11/12/09 09:34 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, and not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science.--Charles Darwin
We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart.--H.L. Mencken
Especially like these.
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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Lion
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Lakefingers]
#11439681 - 11/12/09 09:39 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lakefingers said:
Easily said as the ruler of the Roman Empire.
Good point. I hadn't considered the context too deeply.
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RationalEgo
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Lion]
#11439690 - 11/12/09 09:40 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Lion said:
Quote:
Lakefingers said:
Easily said as the ruler of the Roman Empire.
Good point. I hadn't considered the context too deeply.
Remember some form of that quote was said by every slave master in history.
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Silversoul
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: RationalEgo]
#11439723 - 11/12/09 09:46 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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"Dare to be naïve." -- Buckminster Fuller
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Mush 4 Brains
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Silversoul]
#11439803 - 11/12/09 10:02 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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"He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool; avoid him.
He who knows not and knows that he knows not is a student; teach him.
He who knows and knows not that he knows is asleep; wake him.
He who knows and knows that he knows is a wise man; follow him."
I thought this saying was Aesop's, but who knows
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HardTrippin
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#11445014 - 11/12/09 09:34 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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"Every great idea is obvious, not every obvious idea is great."-Some random kid on acid on national geographic
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RationalEgo
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: HardTrippin]
#11445929 - 11/13/09 01:16 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Live as brave men; and if fortune is adverse, front its blows with brave hearts.--Cicero
Atheism is more than just the knowledge that gods do not exist, and that religion is either a mistake or a fraud. Atheism is an attitude, a frame of mind that looks at the world objectively, fearlessly, always trying to understand all things as a part of nature.--Carl Sagan
If money is your hope for independence you will never have it. The only real security that a man will have in this world is a reserve of knowledge, experience, and ability.--Henry Ford
In science it often happens that scientists say, \'You know that\'s a really good argument; my position is mistaken,\' and then they actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn\'t happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion.-- 1987 CSICOP keynote address
It stands to reason that where there's sacrifice, there's someone collecting sacrificial offerings. Where there's service, there's someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice, speaks of slaves and masters. And intends to be the master.--Ayn Rand
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