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 Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: artizen]
#11386512 - 11/04/09 05:44 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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wouldn't really prove anything, all MS is crap shoot.
I was afraid of that. Multi-spore is that variable huh? Even in older varieties that have been "bred" for certain traits over many years?
So I'm guessing the only way to do a proper comparison would be a strain isolate on agar? I'm sure some mad scientist here has done that to multiple brands of the same "strain", I just have to find this mythical scientist on here...
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I'm on the side of a cube is a cube argument, but it is my understanding that a few strains are different. which of the above strains would you say actually has outstanding or unique traits, if any?
Remember, like Cervantes said in the original post, a strain is when 2 spores come together a create dikaryotic (literally "two-kernels" or 2 unique DNA sets) mycelium. As for spore prints and syringe solutions, there's just varieties or "races" of the same species. The name "Strain" is used by commercial spore companies to make it sound more "weed-like" as weed has a wide variety of actual strains. The term "Mushroom Strain" is nothing more than false advertising.
Out of the "varieties" you listed, I'd say MDK has the most unique traits, since it has a unique name. But that's my speculation: I have no idea what it looks like. That Wollagong and Na Muang sounds pretty cool, try it out. I know for sure that Penis Envy, PE Albino and Redboy are unique, novelty varieties, but I'm sure there's more.
Oh yeah, Thanks for the input,
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Edited by LogicaL Chaos (11/04/09 05:51 PM)
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I agree with artizen when it comes to different brand name cubes.
While there are often differences between different brands of cubes, it is very hard to show the differences with just one grow (even if you used an isolate).
There is just enough variety from one grow to the next (even with well domesticated cubes) to confuse things.
It would take multiple grows by multiple growers before you'd begin to get a clear picture of the differences.
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 Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Cervantes]
#11386746 - 11/04/09 06:08 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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MDK= mex dutch king
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: truskool]
#11390467 - 11/05/09 10:48 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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The MDK is by far my favorite Race, fast colonizing, contam resistant and an excellent fruiter, Hautla is the exact opposite.
Na Muang had the most character and larger gill spacings compared to other races.
Most Potent strain that i have had is the Transkie,, Haven't tried the PE yet.
Grain used was Whole maize kernels cased with Peat moss based casing.
Cubes show their true colours when Poop is used as bulk sub.
Have grown the same MDK ISO on Corn and on poop and the end result is very different.
My2c worth
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Getafixx]
#11391859 - 11/05/09 02:50 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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R44
According to Ralphster:
"A few years ago, I tried my luck with foraging, and found several very nice strains, Unfortunately my labeling left something to be desired, so the location will have to be set as the Southern States.
After 2 years of trail and work, my suppliers have finally sent me something I can be proud to present to you… the R44.
Think dense fruits, with heavy stems an mid to large size caps, heavy spore drops and excellent potency. I’m certain you will be pleased.
An excellent addition to any collection."
From www.ralphstersspores.com
That is actually a picture of one of my cakes from 4 years ago that i gave to ralph to put up on the site.
after some emails with him, he revealed to me that it was a strain originating from Mississippi.
these cubes are like super bright neon yellow. and are that color in many other grows, like mine and large_doses
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: galadar]
#11391904 - 11/05/09 02:57 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ive been tryin to trade or get some R-44 from the free spore thread but I keep getting shafted on trades. 
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: truskool]
#11391985 - 11/05/09 03:10 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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MDK= mex dutch king
sounds like a brand of blunt wraps.  lol.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: 13shrooms]
#11392054 - 11/05/09 03:20 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ive been tryin to trade or get some R-44 from the free spore thread but I keep getting shafted on trades.
im sorry but i dont have any r44 left, i kept it going in a lc till last year but dropped and shattered it :/ i constantly move around
yep.. all i got left is malabar and s.a. 
ps. the r44 trip is rediculous
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: galadar]
#11439799 - 11/12/09 10:01 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Does anyone here have any experience with Tak Mountain?? It will be my first experiment and I was thinking of trying B+ but that seemed so common that I considered trying something different and Tak Mountain was my favorite looking. Any experience with that strain? Anyone?
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Shpongle1]
#11439825 - 11/12/09 10:07 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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should be as good as the rest.
good for you picking a not so common cubensis to work with. good luck!
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 Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Shpongle1]
#11489429 - 11/19/09 09:04 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wow, the "Tak Mountain" variety sounds interesting!
Never heard of it. Curious of what it looks like.
Is it from the wonderful world of Smurfland where shrooms become houses? Maybe from the Mountain ranges of Argentina, where its so cold, the mushroom needs to grow a fur coat to stay alive?
By the way, I like your name. Too bad someone already took the original name, the bastard.
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Has anyone heard of a "Penis Envy Hawaiian" strain?
I looked around a lot on the forum and found NO info on it, but a few people have said to have it...
Anyone?
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: nitelife]
#11522499 - 11/24/09 08:30 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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 Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: nitelife]
#11522572 - 11/24/09 08:39 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Is the "Hawaiian Penis Envy" strain the one where the entire mushroom is colored dark-brown and the head/cap smells like a pineapple?
Is it also usually found growing inside the "Haole Hole" Mushroom strain?
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I have no Idea what it looks like or anything.
All I asked is if it existed.
Is there a such thing as PEH?
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: nitelife]
#11523115 - 11/24/09 09:59 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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No, he is thinking of PESH... which is Pacifica Exotica Spora Hawaiian, not PE Hawaiian. Not the first time this mistake has been made.
Look up PESH for more info.It is not what you think it is, nor is it what it sounds like.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Cervantes]
#11523295 - 11/24/09 10:24 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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 thank you for clearing this up. dose it happen that much? what the fuck do they think the S stands for?
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: feelfunny]
#11526329 - 11/25/09 12:27 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh no, the person that I was talking to for sure said that is is Penis Envy Hawaiian. I know what PESH is. Maybe they were either bullshitting me or just mixing up the names and thought it was PEH
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: nitelife]
#11527658 - 11/25/09 04:12 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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And again, he was thinking of PESH and was confused.
It is not the first time this mistake has been made... but be assured, there are NO PE Hawaiians on the market. And, there is no such thing as a native Hawaiian cube.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Cervantes]
#11555311 - 11/30/09 12:50 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cervantes said:
To my knowledge, Workman has done the most studies of different cube 'Strains'.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/9796085
Nice little guide here! 
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