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OfflinePsychedelicious
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Re: Hydrogen Peroxide Tek? Screw that! [Re: Doc_T]
    #11330274 - 10/27/09 08:59 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Read my post. I said that I would PC anyways - but how can a grain soaked in an anti-bacterial/anti-spore solution not be more clean and more resistant to bacteria and contaminate spores? I don't see how "it doesn't work" makes sense.

Will grains soaked in the solution be more resistant to contams? I would think so.

Do I think that using it as a substitute for PC'ing is the way to go? Hell no, that is why I own a PC.


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Re: Hydrogen Peroxide Tek? Screw that! [Re: Psychedelicious]
    #11330303 - 10/27/09 09:04 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

if you are going to pc why would u even bother... seems like it would do more harm than good IMO


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Re: Hydrogen Peroxide Tek? Screw that! [Re: Psychedelicious]
    #11330306 - 10/27/09 09:05 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

It might be more clean- it's not more resistant.
Think it through. You only need one bacterium. So even if you kill 99.9999999%, you've still got a chance of failure.

Anyway, most experienced growers shoot their contams into the jars. They don't shoot good solution into bad jars.

I wash grains using a drop of soap. If I happened to have antibacterial soap on the counter, I'd use it.
But there's no way that it's going to change the final quality of the sterilization process.


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Re: Hydrogen Peroxide Tek? Screw that! [Re: rlnstnd420]
    #11330578 - 10/27/09 10:04 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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rlnstnd420 said:
Yes please make a tek. I am interested in trying to use the peroxide tek but I only have spores to work with. i mean, if bleach is used, can you skip all the sterilizing and pressure cooking? anything to simplify the process would be appreciated.




The original poster disappeared, never to be heard from again, three months after making this thread.  Peroxide and/or bleach are not substitutes for pressure cooking.  Neither bleach nor peroxide will kill all bacterial endospores.  Soaking in bleach before pressure cooking would be like wearing a parachute in your car.  It would serve no purpose. 

This thread was started when that silly 'peroxide tek' was floating around, with some dude trying to charge $20 or more for a few pages printed off his computer showing how to use peroxide rather than sterilizing.  It's horrible.  I don't know of one single grower who tried it(including myself) who still thinks it's a viable technique. 
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Re: Hydrogen Peroxide Tek? Screw that! [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #11330830 - 10/27/09 10:56 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

How did a 3 year old post get brought back to life?!?!


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Re: Hydrogen Peroxide Tek? Screw that! [Re: Nuzzle]
    #11331131 - 10/27/09 11:49 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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How did a 3 year old post get brought back to life?!?!




New user bumped an old thread instead of starting a new one. Good manners, IMO.


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Re: Hydrogen Peroxide Tek? Screw that! [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #11332271 - 10/27/09 03:22 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

thank you for the input rabbit. i made the mistake of assuming that the poster knew what he was talking about and was experienced.

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Re: Hydrogen Peroxide Tek? Screw that! [Re: Doc_T]
    #11338763 - 10/28/09 01:56 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

SWIM is using doc's wbs tek and once colonized, moving to a monotub for fruiting. Should SWIM bother with casing? If so, is just verm + used coffee grounds sufficient? what ratio? obviously SWIM is a newbie.

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Re: Hydrogen Peroxide Tek? Screw that! [Re: rlnstnd420]
    #11338806 - 10/28/09 02:01 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

not where im from we have it every store

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