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 Fahkface
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 Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: cacharstar]
#11307992 - 10/23/09 05:35 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well if you're lucky enough to know patches that can be considered "unknown to others", I too think it's our duty as mycophiles to let the mushroom do it's job.
But even if you know the patch you're dealing with is an item of picking-competition, you should contain yourself. If you rip out every single fruit, in the end neither nature nor you will have any advantage of your action. I've seen plenty of beautiful patches vanishing because of people that are just too greedy...
Personally I mostly pick them at that age, but do pick earlier as well (though not much and not much earlier). Not because of impatience, but because of the effect they'll have on me.
On the other hand, I leave about half of the fruits behind anyway, due to respect and my personal hypothesis of the biomass spending nutrients for upcoming generations.
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Twiztidsage
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: Fahkface]
#11308673 - 10/23/09 07:44 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Fahkface said:
Well if you're lucky enough to know patches that can be considered "unknown to others", I too think it's our duty as mycophiles to let the mushroom do it's job.
But even if you know the patch you're dealing with is an item of picking-competition, you should contain yourself. If you rip out every single fruit, in the end neither nature nor you will have any advantage of your action. I've seen plenty of beautiful patches vanishing because of people that are just too greedy...
Personally I mostly pick them at that age, but do pick earlier as well (though not much and not much earlier). Not because of impatience, but because of the effect they'll have on me.
On the other hand, I leave about half of the fruits behind anyway, due to respect and my personal hypothesis of the biomass spending nutrients for upcoming generations.
Exactly.
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Auggie
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: Twiztidsage]
#11313915 - 10/24/09 05:21 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wahoo! Just found my first patch of Cyanofriscosas in Berkeley! A nice little harvest of about 20 mushrooms with nickel to quarter sized caps and about 1" stems. I'd post pics if I had a camera with me...
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 nachohippie
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: Auggie]
#11315181 - 10/24/09 09:02 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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quadracer
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: nachohippie]
#11319534 - 10/25/09 03:27 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Found some Agaricus bernardii today.
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quadracer
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: quadracer]
#11323830 - 10/26/09 10:48 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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A friend just showed me some Edulis he found today! He said there were many more that were rotted. Check your early spots.
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quadracer
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: quadracer]
#11324553 - 10/26/09 12:39 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Twiztidsage
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: quadracer]
#11324576 - 10/26/09 12:42 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Beautiful!
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Civ
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: CureCat]
#11326447 - 10/26/09 05:03 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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CureCat said:
Some edibles from the last 2 days.
Nice haul there CC. Had soom good luck out there last week myself. I'll be out there this next week again for sure.
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auweia
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: Civ]
#11327398 - 10/26/09 07:23 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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this could possibly be a major discovery of a new patch of psilocybe subaeruginascens in San Francisco..the biggest one yet, 3 times the size of my original Richmond find 4 years ago
    
this is not quite the same subaeruginascens as my shared spot with Urbanism, nor the Richmond spot.; I've always felt there was two different sub species of this, and I think this is closer to what Curecat posted on Wiki here >>>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Psilocybe.subaeruginascens.6.jpg
identifying features. Although this is likely in section stuntzae, it probably isn't actual psilocybe stuntzii.
There is no annulus, or most of them lack an annulus, or very little veil remnant as compared to stuntzii
The smell is EXACTLY like the subaeruginascens I'm used to. neither cyans nor stuntzii have this strong smell. Cyans have a more bitter smell, but these (and subaeruginascens) are more like some kind of flower/pollen/honeysuckle...indescribable , just like the specific color
I ate one single specimen, the one in the photo, 2 hours ago...I'm feelin it, man.........(no way you'd feel it with a single stuntzii...not like that)
Bifurcated gill structure. As you can see from the single specimen, pictured, the one I ate, the gill structure is bifurcated (split, forked). This is not common in the previous subaeruginascens finds so far, but it is with this patch. Curecat also mentioned this in her description of previous finds. Also not common in actual stuntzii
Bifurcated gill structure on previous discovery by Curecat here >>>
http://mushroomobserver.org/6772?_js=on&_new=true&id=6772
Bluing > the problem here, today, is exactly the same as the Richmond spot 4 years ago...By the time I discovered it, it was already halfway dried by the dry winds, therefore little bluing. Although there is some bluing with these..It's not prevalent like Cyans, although they are potent or more potent than cyans
also note the white stem, which most stuntzii also lack..or rather the stem on most stuntzii is darker. Basically, I've seen stuntzii in the Bay Area before, and they are also rare, but these are a little different
I'd be very suprised if they were ID as stuntzii
on a side note, the landscaping area is black woodchips, not quite the Scotts either (fine shred), which in itself is unusual for any active species. The location is one of the most diabolical ever. famous landmark in san francisco, right in the damn driveway
couldn't fucking believe it...I passed by it for years and thought , no way, not in there...that's too obvious...too many people around..I mean, might as well put it on the front steps of city hall....but there ya go
edit > if this location ever...became known to more than a few trusted people, it would very quickly make the local SF news, and quite possibly the national news...that's how famous the landmark is
right now, some parts of it are fully fruited, but there's tons of pins scattered all over...absolutely one of the most amazing things I've seen in a looong time, both type and location
if it turns out to really be in the subaeruginascens family...I think it is
if it isn't, it's one hell of s stuntzii
also, didn't have much time today to really take photos, but Alan and Curecat just came by for a couple of freshies to put under a scope, and we'll get some more photos shortly.....or better when it starts raining again
also looking for people in the PNW to say why they think this might be stuntzii...if it looks that way
Edited by auweia (10/26/09 08:55 PM)
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caphillkid
Coquus Boleti
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: auweia]
#11328108 - 10/26/09 08:56 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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they look like really dried out friscosas 
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auweia
mountain biking
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: caphillkid]
#11328286 - 10/26/09 09:22 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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nope...there is a difference
psilocybe friscosa (and this is basically a 'morph' of psilocybe cyanescens, san francisco style) because nobody really knows for sure, the complete morphology of what is being recently discovered
psilocybe cyanofriscosa, yesterday, near Youtube HQ, believe it or not, in San Bruno, CA (that's not close enough - it's still in another HQ and in front of >heavy< security, haha)
pictured >>> psilocybe friscosa (cyanescens family), San Bruno, CA, October 24, 2009
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caphillkid said:
they look like really dried out friscosas
sort of...they do look like friscosas in a way, but they are not...I've been picking friscosas for a long time...since 2001...these are not the same as anything in the psilocybe cyanescens family, friscosas or otherwise
watch this thread for some really rare shit in the near future
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caphillkid said:
they look like really dried out friscosas
Edited by auweia (10/26/09 09:49 PM)
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CureCat
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 Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: auweia]
#11328797 - 10/26/09 10:49 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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It was nice to meet you, Auweia.
Like I said as you were leaving, they can't be P. stuntzii, not with that kind of potency or a white stem (as you mentioned). They do look a lot like the Psilocybe sp. aff. subaruginascens from the Bay Area (and Oregon and Washington), especially similar macroscopically to the two collections that you linked to. So you know, both of those collections were grown from patches about 20 miles apart from one another, but which were transplanted from the same original patch, thus they are the same biological organism.
There is no definitive identification for the P. subaeruginascens type on the West Coast, we just refer to them as that species because it is the best match, macro and microscopically. Of course, I am comparing to the Japanese type, not the Javanese type (P. subaeruginascens var. septentrionalis). In all likelihood, this could be a similar species, subspecies, or variety, from Section Stuntzae.
Also, the youngest of the three specimens that I looked at had a faint, blue annulus. The other two did not have any noticeable annulus.
Very nice find! Thank you for documenting these.
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scout24
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: CureCat]
#11328840 - 10/26/09 10:56 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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We went out looking for Kings this evening and found a few.
 
On the way home I spotted this patch out the car window. They were growing alongside some clusters of Hypholoma fasciculare which caught my eye.
Unfortunately, the location was not good for taking pictures. I pulled up this single cluster for photographic purposes only.
 
Hopefully, these early finds signal a productive season.
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Twiztidsage
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: scout24]
#11328893 - 10/26/09 11:04 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nice kings!
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scout24
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: auweia]
#11328939 - 10/26/09 11:12 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Interesting find, auweia.
Mushrooms pop up in the damndest places. Last season I saw some actives growing on the grounds of a famous museum. 
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: auweia]
#11329463 - 10/27/09 01:00 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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if it turns out to really be in the subaeruginascens family...I think it is
Microscopically, they are a good match for Psilocybe subaeruginascens. Spore size, shape, cheilocystidia and pleurocystidia all match pretty well with the other samples Workman has photographed.
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auweia
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#11330959 - 10/27/09 10:19 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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update on the p subaeruginascens
    
yeah, I understand it's not an exact match but it's the closest thing we have so far. This paeticular type sort of reminds me of the consistency of oysters, or maybe Reishii. Went back this morning and got a bunch more. There is some bluing on some of them, but you can see many are really drying out
Right now I have a nice bag of mycelium for the next time Alan/Curecat is in the area, to help spread it around. Here's the problem with the location. The landscaped area is maybe 100 feet by 50 feet. It's entirely encased in concrete, so it has nowhere to go after it eventually eats the whole thing. So far it's overtaken about 1/3 of the entire area, so unless they replenish the woodchips, this spot has maybe 3-5 years, maybe longer, who knows. If it ever gets to the point where it starts running out of food, I'll give up the location and let people have at it
but where it's sitting is maybe the most diabolical of all. Think of it from the mushrooms perspective. If I was a mushroom and I wanted to contaminate 250,000 people every day, 24/7, where would I go?
right here, to this place. I couldn't possibly spread spores better if I rode BART all day with open bags. The location is THAT shocking. Kind of like climbing to the top of the Pyramid building and tossing spores. By golly, this one out aced us all....sheesh
so yeah, the new psilocybe subaeruginascens is here to stay, and it's spreading, in a big way
In the meantime, I have mycelium ready to go, and when it starts raining again, more freshies for Alan and Curecat to hold out the car window while spreading it some more...haha
this stuff is nice..stonier than cyans
Edited by auweia (10/27/09 10:20 AM)
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WaylitJim
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: auweia]
#11331024 - 10/27/09 10:30 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey there Auweia. Good find! That's a great looking, well established patch. I wonder how many years it's been fruiting and gone unnoticed. Amazing! I love seeing subaeruginascens flourishing around the the bay.
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auweia
mountain biking
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: WaylitJim]
#11331067 - 10/27/09 10:39 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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the landscaping has only been there two years, which makes it amazing how far it's already spread, and here we thought the mycelium grew slower than cyans.
er maybe it was already contaminated when they first put it in..who knows..
it's certainly there now, and it's really the only species there, so it has the place all to itself
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