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Ever thought you'd been spotted?
    #11291991 - 10/21/09 12:05 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Ever thought you'd been spotted by the cops while out picking them lovely mushrooms? if so share your expirence and how ya felt at the time

lets have some good magic mushroom storys here guys and gals:mushroom2:


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: sazzelb]
    #11292003 - 10/21/09 12:07 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

can't say thats ever happend to me!!


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: MCSteveyC]
    #11292012 - 10/21/09 12:08 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

What is the legality of this? Can you be arrested for picking one? What if you haven't actually put it on your person yet? Seems silly to me.


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: MCSteveyC]
    #11292039 - 10/21/09 12:13 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

are you sure stevey lol


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: strangefox]
    #11292051 - 10/21/09 12:15 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

if ya aint got them on ya they cant do jack, but soon as they find one on ya they'll bust ya ass for it!


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: sazzelb]
    #11292062 - 10/21/09 12:17 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

It would suck, erm it would be anger and indigence if El Fascismo ever took my shrooms.

I guess I'm lucky in that i have a field no-one else knows of, half an acre of joy supplying 5 or 6 dry oz per season.

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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: sazzelb]
    #11292085 - 10/21/09 12:21 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

sazzelb said:
Ever thought you'd been spotted by the cops while out picking them lovely mushrooms? if so share your expirence and how ya felt at the time

lets have some good magic mushroom storys here guys and gals:mushroom2:


Whats your story? Ya cant make a thread and not contribute your story of terror on the high seas. :piratebattle:


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: MycOhunter]
    #11292115 - 10/21/09 12:26 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

There is nothing illegal about picking mushrooms, unless you are intentionally looking for active/illegal species. I always have a field guide, with bookmarked pages of edibles or anything interesting non active to keep an eye out for. Also pick some non actives to toss in the mix, they would have a harder time proving you're just after actives with an even mix of edibles,


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: Bipolardox]
    #11292200 - 10/21/09 12:38 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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There is nothing illegal about picking mushrooms, unless you are intentionally looking for active/illegal species. I always have a field guide, with bookmarked pages of edibles or anything interesting non active to keep an eye out for. Also pick some non actives to toss in the mix, they would have a harder time proving you're just after actives with an even mix of edibles,



exactly what me and the mrs was sayin the other day


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: Bipolardox]
    #11292201 - 10/21/09 12:39 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

we went out yesterday to a very good spot covered in libs and on our way back to the car park we spotted a police car parked near our car so we decided to hide the bags of mushies we'd picked and was crapping it thinking we'd be busted then the cop car turned to face us and put its lights on us as if it was watching us at this point i was really scared but then they drove away THANK GOD!!!!! but we got lots


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: sazzelb]
    #11292225 - 10/21/09 12:42 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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sazzelb said:
we went out yesterday to a very good spot covered in libs and on our way back to the car park we spotted a police car parked near our car so we decided to hide the bags of mushies we'd picked and was crapping it thinking we'd be busted then the cop car turned to face us and put its lights on us as if it was watching us at this point i was really scared but then they drove away THANK GOD!!!!! but we got lots



hahaha i've never seen anyone crap it so much! i was completely fine... not scared one bit...:cool:


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: MCSteveyC]
    #11292244 - 10/21/09 12:44 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

:tongue:you bloody liar you were crapping it too lol


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: sazzelb]
    #11292250 - 10/21/09 12:46 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

nahh i was just joking


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: MCSteveyC]
    #11292257 - 10/21/09 12:46 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

ok im sure u was thats why u kept asking for my phone lol


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: sazzelb]
    #11292286 - 10/21/09 12:50 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

i had to edge my way around a big oak tree as a county sheriff creeped down a road adjacent to a good cope field i was hunting. one time


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: sazzelb]
    #11292293 - 10/21/09 12:51 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

ok i admit it i crapped it too


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: wowitch17]
    #11292301 - 10/21/09 12:52 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

was you scared?


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: MCSteveyC]
    #11292305 - 10/21/09 12:53 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

LOL see


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: wowitch17]
    #11292329 - 10/21/09 12:57 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

lol i can picture it now........


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: sazzelb]
    #11292339 - 10/21/09 12:58 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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was you scared?




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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: wowitch17]
    #11292343 - 10/21/09 12:59 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

brave u are lol i was crapping myself lol


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: wowitch17]
    #11292492 - 10/21/09 01:20 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Actually bipolardox, it is illegal to take mushrooms from most states land, whether active or not. Similar to the laws of taking no driftwood. If its there naturally it is supposed to be left. Pickin on yours or a buddies land is a different story though. You can get permits for a days pass of picking at certain parks also. Shouldve looked it up before posting, but I believe there are only two states where its not illegal to take mushrooms from state land. Sorry just woke up, to lazy for my reference.

Personally, I disreguard those laws, but no run ins with the 5.0 yet.


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: Ganjabonga]
    #11292514 - 10/21/09 01:23 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

we live in the uk tho so i dont think most of them stats apply to us


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: MCSteveyC]
    #11292595 - 10/21/09 01:35 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Gotcha. Well... Pick on brotha!


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: wowitch17]
    #11292708 - 10/21/09 01:54 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

i would of been lol


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: Ganjabonga]
    #11292769 - 10/21/09 02:05 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Actually bipolardox, it is illegal to take mushrooms from most states land, whether active or not. Similar to the laws of taking no driftwood. If its there naturally it is supposed to be left. Pickin on yours or a buddies land is a different story though. You can get permits for a days pass of picking at certain parks also. Shouldve looked it up before posting, but I believe there are only two states where its not illegal to take mushrooms from state land. Sorry just woke up, to lazy for my reference.

Personally, I disreguard those laws, but no run ins with the 5.0 yet.




That is not true. Most State and National Forest lands allow picking of up to 1 gallon of mushrooms for personal use. It's only the commercial picking that is regulated requiring fees and permits. Even here non-commercial edible mushroom picking is legal.

Oregon Dept. of Forestry allows 1 gallon for personal use. Commercial pickers must pay $100 for a permit that allows up to 1,000 lbs. in one month.

Mt. Hood National Forest allows 1 gallon for personal use without a permit and only requires a free use permit to collect for commercial use.

BLM Land in Oregon & Washington rules are a little more confusing but appears to allow 1 gallon for personal use without a permit/contract.

Places like forest reserves, research areas, and wilderness areas will be the exception to the above general guidelines.

There you have it, folks. No need to let misinformation limit your foraging possibilities.  Now get out there and hunt!


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: wowitch17]
    #11293207 - 10/21/09 03:09 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Got followed by a guy in a landrover. Ran away. Came back, he was there again. Threw box of shrooms in my box of sandwiches and pulled my sandwich out and ate it. As he stared at me from 20ms away, and I sat there smugly staring back at him. This went on for about 3-4 minutes. Stood, silent, and staring. Police pulled me over another time, and i threw the mushrooms under seat. :laugh:


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: Coheed88]
    #11293223 - 10/21/09 03:11 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

bet that was a bit nerve racking to be watched by a guy  for all that time.. was it the farmer?


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: sazzelb]
    #11293484 - 10/21/09 03:50 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Not sure my eyesight is poor lol. I guess so. he was bounding around the fields at about 55mph in his landrover, so one would guess he was the farmer.


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: Coheed88]
    #11293488 - 10/21/09 03:51 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Got followed by a guy in a landrover. Ran away. Came back, he was there again. Threw box of shrooms in my box of sandwiches and pulled my sandwich out and ate it. As he stared at me from 20ms away, and I sat there smugly staring back at him. This went on for about 3-4 minutes. Stood, silent, and staring. Police pulled me over another time, and i threw the mushrooms under seat. :laugh:



fuck me u must pick in some dodgy places! lol


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: MCSteveyC]
    #11293538 - 10/21/09 03:57 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

i went back there today, and some woman was walking her dog, so i turned round and stared at a cow for about 6 minutes. When i turned back round she was stood next to me, and the conversation went as follows:

Lady: "We've had a great foaling season this year.."

Me: "Errmm.. yeh.. theres certainly more than last year"

...SILENCE...

Me: "Errrm im lost, do you know the way back to the main road"

Lady: "Yes its down the hill and right"

Me: "Thank you! bye then"

Im seriously guna get caught sooner or later lol. The main road is about 500 metres from the spot, and you have to walk across about 9 fields up a hill. Theres one parking space at the bottom too lol.


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: MCSteveyC]
    #11293553 - 10/21/09 04:00 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I have never ..."Knocks on wood"  had to deal with law enforcement while on a hunt.. I did have a neighbor bust out of the house as I was down in the Macro position taking photos of some Lemon Lepiota in her flower beds.. Stinking woman just did not understand all I was doing was taking some photos..

But hey!... Im a Ninja and Ninjas are invisible so I have nothing to worry about:wink:


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: Coheed88]
    #11293605 - 10/21/09 04:08 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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i went back there today, and some woman was walking her dog, so i turned round and stared at a cow for about 6 minutes. When i turned back round she was stood next to me, and the conversation went as follows:

Lady: "We've had a great foaling season this year.."

Me: "Errmm.. yeh.. theres certainly more than last year"

...SILENCE...

Me: "Errrm im lost, do you know the way back to the main road"

Lady: "Yes its down the hill and right"

Me: "Thank you! bye then"

Im seriously guna get caught sooner or later lol. The main road is about 500 metres from the spot, and you have to walk across about 9 fields up a hill. Theres one parking space at the bottom too lol.



hahahaha thats funny as fuck! she probably thought you were going to rape the cows! she probably would have joined in too the weird bitch!


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: MCSteveyC]
    #11293649 - 10/21/09 04:16 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Can.. you.. rape a cow?


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: Coheed88]
    #11293659 - 10/21/09 04:17 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Can.. you.. rape a cow?




I dunno .. But you can sure as hell tip em over:rofl2:


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: YESSUP]
    #11293702 - 10/21/09 04:23 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

i dunno.... she must have been pretty dumb not to notice a mushie picker from a sheep shagger!


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: wowitch17]
    #11293715 - 10/21/09 04:25 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I just started picking this year, and I had the cops drive right by me and they did not seem to even care.....


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: Coheed88]
    #11293759 - 10/21/09 04:30 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Can.. you.. rape a cow?



Quote:

Coheed88 said:
Can.. you.. rape a cow?




Yes, anyone who's seen Super Troopers will agree with me. The size of the bear costume was really spot on for a cow, the physics apply.


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: YESSUP]
    #11293786 - 10/21/09 04:34 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

hahha tipping cows. to quote Bullshitpedia:

"A study led by Margo Lillie, a doctor of zoology at the University of British Columbia, concludes that cow tipping by a single person is impossible. Her calculations found that it would take at least two people to apply enough force to push over a cow if the cow does not react and reorient its footing. If the cow does react, it would take at least four people to push it over. Professor Lillie noted that, contrary to the myth, cows are well aware of their surroundings (they have excellent senses of smell and hearing) and are very difficult to sneak up upon."


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: thetonebone72]
    #11294000 - 10/21/09 05:02 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

Ganjabonga said:
Actually bipolardox, it is illegal to take mushrooms from most states land, whether active or not. Similar to the laws of taking no driftwood. If its there naturally it is supposed to be left. Pickin on yours or a buddies land is a different story though. You can get permits for a days pass of picking at certain parks also. Shouldve looked it up before posting, but I believe there are only two states where its not illegal to take mushrooms from state land. Sorry just woke up, to lazy for my reference.

Personally, I disreguard those laws, but no run ins with the 5.0 yet.




That is not true. Most State and National Forest lands allow picking of up to 1 gallon of mushrooms for personal use. It's only the commercial picking that is regulated requiring fees and permits. Even here non-commercial edible mushroom picking is legal.

Oregon Dept. of Forestry allows 1 gallon for personal use. Commercial pickers must pay $100 for a permit that allows up to 1,000 lbs. in one month.

Mt. Hood National Forest allows 1 gallon for personal use without a permit and only requires a free use permit to collect for commercial use.

BLM Land in Oregon & Washington rules are a little more confusing but appears to allow 1 gallon for personal use without a permit/contract.

Places like forest reserves, research areas, and wilderness areas will be the exception to the above general guidelines.

There you have it, folks. No need to let misinformation limit your foraging possibilities.  Now get out there and hunt!




This was my take, reading either some state or national park rulebook - NOTHING may be removed from the land, but you may bury your shit. 

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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: whoever]
    #11294318 - 10/21/09 05:45 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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This was my take, reading either some state or national park rulebook - NOTHING may be removed from the land, but you may bury your shit.




Are you daft, brother? What I am trying to say is it is NOT illegal to remove mushrooms from most government lands. And actually in Washington (as of 2006) it is spelled out pretty damn precisely and the rules are more liberal than in Oregon where the usual max per day is only 1 gallon. I wish Oregon had a similar reference.

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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: whoever]
    #11294423 - 10/21/09 05:59 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

The man has references. Can't argue with that.

Anywhere you go, they can arrest you for having Psilocybin containing mushrooms on your person, but unless the cop KNOWS they're psilocybin containing, you're probably not going to get into trouble. Like some others have said, having edibles on you is going to help your case a lot. I would claim ignorance if a cop ever stopped me, or just start talking about edible mushrooms. If the cop does recognize yr boomers, You were just trying to spice up your cooking and you accidentally stumbled upon these horrible hallucinogenic drugs. of course, thank you officer for warning me! I might have lost my mind and murdered my family! I can't bear to think of it, why I've never touched drugs in all my life and here I am collecting them unknowingly! (Throws the actives away in disgust, looks horrified).


My question is, how do you measure a gallon of shrooms?
And what kind of edible mushrooms grow in the dune grasses?


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: thetonebone72]
    #11294702 - 10/21/09 06:35 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I was picking P. Silvatica in a Park in PDX when a early 30's  Women on a jog stopped and asked me what i was picking. I pulled a latin name out of my butt and said i part of a (fake) Mycological Enthusiasts group and made up a acronym. She picked a mushroom, looked at it, and told me she had taken a bunch of mycology courses at Evergreen and ran off. Her whole "vibe" was suspicious and malicous. Since, after all, i had a bag full of Psilocybes i decided it was a good time to leave and come back another day. 2 minutes of walking later and i look back and a Portland Parks 4-wheeler thing pulls up, lady gets off - looks at mushrooms. About the same time a cop pulled up and parked on the street across from the spot i was picking and stopped for a minute and then rolled off. I think the lady knew what was up but didnt like it.


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    #11294945 - 10/21/09 07:01 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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whoever said:


This was my take, reading either some state or national park rulebook - NOTHING may be removed from the land, but you may bury your shit.




Are you daft, brother? What I am trying to say is it is NOT illegal to remove mushrooms from most government lands. And actually in Washington (as of 2006) it is spelled out pretty damn precisely and the rules are more liberal than in Oregon where the usual max per day is only 1 gallon. I wish Oregon had a similar reference.

ARE WE CLEAR??!!

Non commercial hunting on most federal and state land in OR & WA is a non-issue. Print out these docs and take them with you so if anyone gives you any shit you've got backup.




yeah that sounds really legitimate - that's how i like to talk to rangers, other boys in blue, and whoever else we all picked on in high school...

anyway, i'm in GA, i'm not from here, i can't tell a post from a posted, and i'm sick and fucking tired of tracking rules.  Everything is illegal here. period.  except that you are authorized to bury your shit at some or other specified coordinates

So i'm glad to find myself in the true outdoorsy class, too scared to eat anything, 'take nothing but photos, leave nothing but footprints'. 

If I see mushrooms of interest they become a completely clandestine matter, because it's nobody's business unless 'warranted'.

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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: thetonebone72]
    #11295051 - 10/21/09 07:16 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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thetonebone72 said:
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whoever said:


This was my take, reading either some state or national park rulebook - NOTHING may be removed from the land, but you may bury your shit.




Are you daft, brother? What I am trying to say is it is NOT illegal to remove mushrooms from most government lands. And actually in Washington (as of 2006) it is spelled out pretty damn precisely and the rules are more liberal than in Oregon where the usual max per day is only 1 gallon. I wish Oregon had a similar reference.

ARE WE CLEAR??!!

Non commercial hunting on most federal and state land in OR & WA is a non-issue. Print out these docs and take them with you so if anyone gives you any shit you've got backup.



Maybe I'm missing something, but are we talking 1 gallon of average mushrooms, or 1 gallon of actives?


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    #11295260 - 10/21/09 07:41 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Actives aren't legal to possess.  Many ranger stations I've been to in OR and WA have fliers that list some of the common edible mushrooms, how much you're allowed to pick, and all the rules.  It is definitely not illegal to pick edibles this way.


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: whoever]
    #11295274 - 10/21/09 07:43 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Here, somebody busted in GA for digging ginseng in the wrong time at the wrong place. Sep 6-12  georgiawildlife.com/documentdetail.aspx?docid=589&pageid=1&category=enforcement - 'possession of illegally taken wildlife'.

I dunno, but I'm not gonna ask the ranger about chanterelle season, because i already know what he'll say.

Actives?  what're actives?

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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: thetonebone72]
    #11295777 - 10/21/09 08:39 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Are you daft, brother? What I am trying to say is it is NOT illegal to remove mushrooms from most government lands. And actually in Washington (as of 2006) it is spelled out pretty damn precisely and the rules are more liberal than in Oregon where the usual max per day is only 1 gallon. I wish Oregon had a similar reference.

ARE WE CLEAR??!!

Non commercial hunting on most federal and state land in OR & WA is a non-issue. Print out these docs and take them with you so if anyone gives you any shit you've got backup.




Well, i just looked more into it, federally, and can see you've had a thwack of politics going on over the past decade.  Some states have clarified things, i guess mostly western, and placated pickers to some regulated degree or other. 

All I can find written by the dummies in GA in particular is "It is unlawful to take nongame wildlife" and I guess if buddy got busted for ginseng then my 'misidentified mushrooms' would invite the same fate.

Edit: Here's a good one for states, but 1993:
wildlifelaw.unm.edu/statbook/intro.html
Georgia, btw, has a strict 'non-consumption' guiding policy; wilderness is preserved so that we may look at it, presumably


guess i'll stick to catch and release until i can tell if i'm on federal land or not

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    #11296439 - 10/21/09 10:01 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

ive noticed most piggys don't even know the latest laws on the norm charges they try n tax - with gyms - ofcourse they are honey mushrooms - id never never never admit to any thing else in pig presence - i highly doubt they would know what i have - and like someone said above - id rambel off scientific names -amarillia mellia (sorry bout spelling) and i guarantee when i start talking scientific style - the pigs would tune me right out:laugh:

And with fungus - id argue with any authority that its a bullshit rule - my parks specifically say "do not remove any PLANTS or ANIMALS" - they seem to have forgotten fungus in there - i told you i read the rules:laugh:

And id argue that removing them is actually a way to spread them out  of the "protected habitat" and is good for the species - otherwise they will rot and dissapear - maybe someone else will see em - but mostly kids stomp my gyms if i don't pick them - so i believe im doing the gyms and ALL some good:smile:

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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: sazzelb]
    #11297203 - 10/22/09 12:27 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

One time Alan and I were hunting Psilocybe cyanescens on a landscaped median near a freeway on/off ramp.  We had just finished harvesting a lunch bag full of them when a cop entering the freeway via the on ramp next to us pulled over, rolled down his window, and stared at us.  I walked up to the car and greeted the cop, and he asked what we were doing.  I told him that we were hunting mushrooms, and opened the bag and showed him.  He glanced at them for all of 2 seconds and then turned and pointed across the street to another median with a "No Pedestrians" sign and said "Okay.  See that spot over there?  Don't go over there."  We agreed, and he bid us a good day and drove away.

I have seen and run into a few other cops, but they don't usually care or want to know what I am doing.


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    #11297264 - 10/22/09 12:53 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

i got caught about 3 hours ago today. was in a cow pasture about 20 miles from my house. i found some pan cyans about a week ago there, so decided to return. after about 6 min of picking, there was tons everywhere, i hear some lady yell "HEY! GET OUT OF THE FIELD!!! GET OUT! GET OUT OF THE FIELD!" she just kept yelling at me over and over. i didnt even turn around, i just took off running. ended up getting a blister on my foot but i sure did make out with a bunch of pan cyans. check it out



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    #11297547 - 10/22/09 02:30 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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One time Alan and I were hunting Psilocybe cyanescens on a landscaped median near a freeway on/off ramp.  We had just finished harvesting a lunch bag full of them when a cop entering the freeway via the on ramp next to us pulled over, rolled down his window, and stared at us.  I walked up to the car and greeted the cop, and he asked what we were doing.  I told him that we were hunting mushrooms, and opened the bag and showed him.  He glanced at them for all of 2 seconds and then turned and pointed across the street to another median with a "No Pedestrians" sign and said "Okay.  See that spot over there?  Don't go over there."  We agreed, and he bid us a good day and drove away.

I have seen and run into a few other cops, but they don't usually care or want to know what I am doing.




Lucky.

I remember one time the farmer who owns my lib spots seemed to be hunting himself, although i don't think he managed to ID any libs. I just had to stand around and start my packed lunch.
:hillbilly:

Local police in the UK seem to have no clue about actives, thankfully..:thumbup:


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    #11297742 - 10/22/09 04:08 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Thankfully over 25yrs hav Only encounted Cops Twice.First time Mate was Driving way 2fast thru Red light district.Me 2 mates n my girlfriend(wiv ferret)Had 6kg of cubes(picked in unda n hr)6 cow skulls n 1 tin of Ganga.Cops told us to get out of City that if we returned that night They would arrest us.Even gave tin bac Wouldnt happen these Days.Was start of there shift Didnt want hav to Process us for Most of it.    Second time as sun was rising Along a back road Marked car Came between me n my Driver.Screamed "Were jst Feeding the Horses" to my driver n Swung open the Gate.Luckily had bucket in each hand Actually looked like was there to feed Horses.  Regarding possesion We hav strict Laws pertaining to actives Once in the hand its Class A .My excuse would b NO COMMENT to officers OR M HUNGRY.At court my defence Would b 3fold  1.RELIGION  2.Picked in the dark As yet Unsorted 3.Reside in a paddock(Camp)Was hungry What else was i going to Eat


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: whoever]
    #11297785 - 10/22/09 04:38 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I hear sirens all the time, but none have been directed at me yet.........yet.


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    #11297786 - 10/22/09 04:41 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Local police in the UK seem to have no clue about actives, thankfully..:thumbup:





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    #11298220 - 10/22/09 07:35 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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You'd be surprised, I've read stories of police encounters on the fields.





Thankfully not around here.

Makes you wonder why they waste people's hard earned tax hassling the innocent. 

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    #11298451 - 10/22/09 08:41 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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One time Alan and I were hunting Psilocybe cyanescens on a landscaped median near a freeway on/off ramp.  We had just finished harvesting a lunch bag full of them when a cop entering the freeway via the on ramp next to us pulled over, rolled down his window, and stared at us.  I walked up to the car and greeted the cop, and he asked what we were doing.  I told him that we were hunting mushrooms, and opened the bag and showed him.  He glanced at them for all of 2 seconds and then turned and pointed across the street to another median with a "No Pedestrians" sign and said "Okay.  See that spot over there?  Don't go over there."  We agreed, and he bid us a good day and drove away.

I have seen and run into a few other cops, but they don't usually care or want to know what I am doing.


That is in my opinion the smartest thing to do, I mean if your doing something illegal then dont act like it.

I got arrested for picking Amanitas once and they aren't even illegal:facepalm:

They kept me in jail (holding cell) for an hour then let me go once they checked my camera, how fucked up is that.


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: CureCat]
    #11298632 - 10/22/09 09:27 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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One time Alan and I were hunting Psilocybe cyanescens on a landscaped median near a freeway on/off ramp.  We had just finished harvesting a lunch bag full of them when a cop entering the freeway via the on ramp next to us pulled over, rolled down his window, and stared at us.  I walked up to the car and greeted the cop, and he asked what we were doing.  I told him that we were hunting mushrooms, and opened the bag and showed him.  He glanced at them for all of 2 seconds and then turned and pointed across the street to another median with a "No Pedestrians" sign and said "Okay.  See that spot over there?  Don't go over there."  We agreed, and he bid us a good day and drove away.

I have seen and run into a few other cops, but they don't usually care or want to know what I am doing.




That's a good way of handling it.  Cops are adept at picking out a bad attitude.  Being open and nice goes a long way.  Many of them are such dicks these days with such a bad reputation they rarely get treated that way.  Last night I said Hi to a local cop at the gas station just to be pleasant.

I rarely hunt where I'm "not supposed to."  If I feel I just have to have those mushrooms I'll wait until it is raining hard.  That keeps most people, including rangers, police, etc, away.  I almost never hunt on private land without permission.  In nearly 25 years of hunting I've had no run-ins with any officials.

And I've been in the habit for the last twenty years to ask people to mow around their mushrooms if they weren't ready to pick, including this year.  Not a single person has turned me down.


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    #11298668 - 10/22/09 09:36 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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ive noticed most piggys don't even know the latest laws on the norm charges they try n tax - with gyms - ofcourse they are honey mushrooms - id never never never admit to any thing else in pig presence - i highly doubt they would know what i have - and like someone said above - id rambel off scientific names -amarillia mellia (sorry bout spelling) and i guarantee when i start talking scientific style - the pigs would tune me right out:D




Exactly.  That works with just about anyone nosy enough to ask what you're doing.

About 15 years ago I spotted a huge cluster of Gyms forming in the lawn of a corporation.  The caretakers were insane about the upkeep; they mowed the lawn like a putting green.  So I got ahold of the vice-president or some other high office and asked him to set up a barricade around them.  I told him certain mushrooms were useful in the treatment of cancer and I was doing research.  They had the barricade up for a week or so until they mushrooms were mature.  Then, I picked them.

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And with fungus - id argue with any authority that its a bullshit rule - my parks specifically say "do not remove any PLANTS or ANIMALS" - they seem to have forgotten fungus in there - i told you i read the rules:D




I do the same thing in case I ever am stopped.

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And id argue that removing them is actually a way to spread them out  of the "protected habitat" and is good for the species - otherwise they will rot and dissapear - maybe someone else will see em - but mostly kids stomp my gyms if i don't pick them - so i believe im doing the gyms and ALL some good:)

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    #11299018 - 10/22/09 10:48 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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One time Alan and I were hunting Psilocybe cyanescens on a landscaped median near a freeway on/off ramp.  We had just finished harvesting a lunch bag full of them when a cop entering the freeway via the on ramp next to us pulled over, rolled down his window, and stared at us.  I walked up to the car and greeted the cop, and he asked what we were doing.  I told him that we were hunting mushrooms, and opened the bag and showed him.  He glanced at them for all of 2 seconds and then turned and pointed across the street to another median with a "No Pedestrians" sign and said "Okay.  See that spot over there?  Don't go over there."  We agreed, and he bid us a good day and drove away.




You guys must have used the force, either that or CureCat looks as good in the front as from behind?

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they checked my camera, how fucked up is that.




I have pondered what it's like to swallow an sd flash card.  Since then, I've converted to microflash.  I've also been rehearsing the pronunciation of 'armillaria', and 'psilocybin? nah they don't grow around these parts'

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    #11299069 - 10/22/09 11:00 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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    #11299150 - 10/22/09 11:16 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

We mostly hunt for edibles (always keeping an eye out for them special ones though) in god forsaken places.

Closest thing to getting "caught" or "spotted" was once that we were picking agaricus in a prairie out in the middle of nowhere.

We had a "funny" cig with us and we were just chilling out and this small golf cart appeared out of nowhere and drove by our car (we were several yards away and hid behind a huge tree that was in the middle of the prairie).
The golf cart passed by a couple of times. I was a bit scared but we mostly just stood quiet and still.

once he was gone we went back to the car and drove around to find there was this rich peoples golf erm, place thing and we figured the person in the cart was just looking for stray balls or something.


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    #11302405 - 10/22/09 07:19 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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I go the other way on that.  I'd warn about the dangers of poisonous mushrooms and explain I am doing a service so no one will eat the wrong kinds.




yet another great way to act like your doing a good deed!!!:thumbup: Great advice Mr:cool: Will now plan on this route if need be -Thankx

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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: sporeRider]
    #11302559 - 10/22/09 07:41 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Yes! And it turned out i was right. Let's just say it ended badly and leave it at that. P.S. screw fish and Wildlife


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: Picker4Life]
    #11302593 - 10/22/09 07:46 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

yea ive been confronted before i just say im looking for mushrooms ill be in the area for a while looking to see if any one watching me or sometimes i don't even give a fuck about people they just think i lost something because im really low to the ground scanning

but yea once a city guy  rolled up and i didn't know what to say good thing i was only holding like 3 cyan's and a branch in my hand he just said " i can fine u for removing plants and destruction" then he told me to throw them back into the forest and walk away


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #11304107 - 10/23/09 12:50 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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All the hunting mods know Jedi mind tricks.




Put on your best Sir Alec Guiness, now.....

"....these aren't the shrooms you're looking for....."

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if only.


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In other words a kind of cultural brainwashing is necessary for modern cultures to work at all.
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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: PlatformStrange]
    #11408015 - 11/07/09 08:12 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

GA state mushroom picking update, horse's mouth:

Dear John,  Thank you for your question concerning collection of mushrooms in Georgia. 

Collecting mushrooms in a Georgia State Park is prohibited, unless it is for scientific identification and then a permit is required from our department. 

You may collect mushrooms on DNR Wildlife Management Areas once you obtain permission from the area manager.  No permit is required.  You may find a list of all WMA's on our website at
http://www.georgiawildlife.com/wildlifemanagementareas_hunting.aspx

If you are collecting on Federal land, such as the Chattahoochee National Forest, you would need to contact the USDA Forest Service for each area you wish to collect, for their current policy on the subject.  Their main number in Gainesville is 770-297-3010 or you may e-mail them at gbain@fs.fed.us

Please let us know if we can be of further assistance. 

Sincerely,

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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: sazzelb]
    #13184215 - 09/12/10 11:26 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

yeah 3 cop cars and a dog van! someone got busted!!!


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: MCSteveyC]
    #13184244 - 09/12/10 11:33 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

tell me about it was out one day last week picking in our normal spot then we decided to drive a little further down the road to another little place we go, just as we was coming up to the parking spot there it was in our spot 3 cop cars and a dog van..
they had got a fella and was searching a brown paper bag he was carrying and his rucksack... so needless to say i kept driving past as i had already picked a good few from the feild  before... how lucky 
bit worried about going back there now lol


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: sazzelb]
    #13184272 - 09/12/10 11:37 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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tell me about it was out one day last week picking in our normal spot then we decided to drive a little further down the road to another little place we go, just as we was coming up to the parking spot there it was in our spot 3 cop cars and a dog van..
they had got a fella and was searching a brown paper bag he was carrying and his rucksack... so needless to say i kept driving past as i had already picked a good few from the feild  before... how lucky 
bit worried about going back there now lol



makes you sick doesn't it...... cos we don't actually know why they were searchin him, plus we gonna be paranoid evetime we hit that area now!!


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: MCSteveyC]
    #13184278 - 09/12/10 11:39 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

very true lol well have to tred very careful for a while


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: sazzelb]
    #13184298 - 09/12/10 11:43 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I've been shot at,chased by farmers,and their sons,been on one Hi speed chase,and have still never got caught.I'm just to quick,and smooth:)Can't wait to test out my skills again,when I return to Florida:grin:


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: KBG1977]
    #13184304 - 09/12/10 11:45 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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I've been shot at,chased by farmers,and their sons,been on one Hi speed chase,and have still never got caught.I'm just to quick,and smooth:)Can't wait to test out my skills again,when I return to Florida:grin:



hahahah good lad don't let no cunt put u off the mushroom!!


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: MCSteveyC]
    #13184349 - 09/12/10 11:54 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I wont,and never will:grin:I've actually even been so bold as to pick with the farmer out in a another part of the field,and I was never seen:)


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: MCSteveyC]
    #13184561 - 09/12/10 12:32 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

and the time we went and the cop car was in car park with his lights shinin on the field we was picking in.. that was scary lol


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: sazzelb]
    #13185737 - 09/12/10 04:02 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

You guys sound really reckless picking in areas that you KNOW the police have their eye on... 
But whatever, it is your call.


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: CureCat]
    #13192860 - 09/14/10 04:28 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

these were different places and i aint that thick to go where police are


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: sazzelb]
    #13192913 - 09/14/10 05:11 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

i got handcuffed yesterday after i left my field. The cop was waiting by my car. when i saw his car from far away, i ditched my blue meanies!!! :mad2: i rarely find those...
he found 2 pipes and a roach in my car. i told him it was just spice(which it was).. i had no weed or shrooms on me at all. i was freaking out tho and i was really nervous which made him nervous, so he pushed me on the hood of his car really hard a yelled, "get the FUCK down!" (this is when he handcuffs me) i stood behind my car while he searched it. when he was done, he told me that spice is supposed to be used for incense and not smoked... lol he asked me what i was doing there.. i told him i was a nature freak and that there was a baby eagle in there (crazy there actually IS!) and i had seen it like 5 minutes before.. haha he thought it was BULLSHIT... he asked me like 10 times i kept saying the same thing. He told me i was weird and let me go with a written warning. thats IT. i got my pipes AND my roach back =] The charge was 'suspicious activity". he never field tested my pipes or the roach... which i was dissappointed cuz it was just spice and i wanted to see that...


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Re: Ever thought you'd be spotted? [Re: SHRAMANN]
    #13192989 - 09/14/10 05:57 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

:doh:
Well.....  I am glad he didn't find anything.


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