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¡AZTECORUM!!! KICK ASS PICTURES
#11242059 - 10/13/09 06:58 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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 aztecorum very water logged


 can´t help it too get this far is uncountable

 los niñitos inski hope you see this
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Re: ¡AZTECORUM!!! KICK ASS PICTURES [Re: cactu]
#11242069 - 10/13/09 07:00 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nice shots!
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Re: ¡AZTECORUM!!! KICK ASS PICTURES [Re: Bobzimmer]
#11242097 - 10/13/09 07:02 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Excellent cactu! Those are some amazing mushrooms!!!
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Re: ¡AZTECORUM!!! KICK ASS PICTURES [Re: landsnorkler]
#11242145 - 10/13/09 07:08 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Majical as always cactu!
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Re: ¡AZTECORUM!!! KICK ASS PICTURES [Re: cactu]
#11242152 - 10/13/09 07:09 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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SWEET as always
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Re: ¡AZTECORUM!!! KICK ASS PICTURES [Re: cactu]
#11243036 - 10/13/09 09:17 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Beautiful images of such a rare and unique species, thank you for sharing my friend I have noticed that you mention the interesting colouration of the inside of the stipe, the only other Psilocybe species I have seen this in are Weraroa novae-zelandiae and the other strange partially secotioid species I have found here in NZ, I think there may be other compounds in these mushrooms that cause this pigment, also you mention the blue staining reaction is not very noticeable, this is true for the two species I mentioned above, especially in W. novae-zelandiae, when observing the specimen I cultivated there would be blueing in the rhizomorphs at the base of the stipe one day then the next day it would be gone, very interesting! As warriorsoul mentioned, it would be interesting to compare these with P. baeocystis and also P. aztecorum var bonetii, your collection could actually be the latter mentioned variety if it was found at 3000 meters above sea level!
Beautiful finds and images once again cactu, keep up the great mycology my friend! inski..
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Re: ¡AZTECORUM!!! KICK ASS PICTURES [Re: cactu]
#11243080 - 10/13/09 09:23 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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looks like a awesome habitat
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Re: ¡AZTECORUM!!! KICK ASS PICTURES [Re: wowitch17]
#11244342 - 10/14/09 05:33 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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superb !
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Re: ¡AZTECORUM!!! KICK ASS PICTURES [Re: KOPELANDIAA]
#11244593 - 10/14/09 07:25 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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champis champis champis, hasta encontrar todas las especies compa!!
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Re: ¡AZTECORUM!!! KICK ASS PICTURES [Re: cactu]
#11244654 - 10/14/09 07:46 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's nice to see these kick azz pictures of these active psilocybe's!!
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gracias amigos here a few more








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Re: ¡AZTECORUM!!! KICK ASS PICTURES [Re: cactu]
#11248204 - 10/14/09 06:06 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: ¡AZTECORUM!!! KICK ASS PICTURES [Re: World Spirit]
#11248726 - 10/14/09 07:17 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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P. aztecorum looks more like cyanofriscana than baeocystis......odd.
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Re: ¡AZTECORUM!!! KICK ASS PICTURES [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
#11249715 - 10/14/09 09:47 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cactu, ¡Que chingonas fotos(fucking awesome pics)!
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As warriorsoul mentioned, it would be interesting to compare these with P. baeocystis and also P. aztecorum var bonetii, your collection could actually be the latter mentioned variety if it was found at 3000 meters above sea level!
I found them at 3600 meters.
I felt an uncontolable desire to get out of the car at that spot and just after the light faded, I busted out the cell fone light, and said a few words to the mushrooms, cactu style, and BINGO! I learned more from that guy in 3 days than I have in 20 years of hunting mushrooms! Thanks hermano, I'll see you soon.
Hasta, Blondie
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Re: ¡AZTECORUM!!! KICK ASS PICTURES [Re: Gwero]
#11250732 - 10/15/09 01:20 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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those young ones remind me a bit of azures thanks for posting these cactu!
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Re: ¡AZTECORUM!!! KICK ASS PICTURES [Re: kaal-kopje]
#11251251 - 10/15/09 05:05 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Very interesting find Cactu! Did you notice the caps to be strongly hygrophanous? The description also mentions them easily bluing..Got a pic of a dried specimen?
Any preliminary microscopy done?
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Re: ¡AZTECORUM!!! KICK ASS PICTURES [Re: HerbBaker]
#11255572 - 10/15/09 06:23 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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BlimeyGrimey said: P. aztecorum looks more like cyanofriscana than baeocystis......odd.
for sure , it was my impresion after seem many of the finds you guy make they look more like even cyanescens and azurences, and cyanofriscosa , cyanofribrillosa etc. , and the baeocystis look really diferent in pictures. when they are really wet look like stuzii too with out a ring of course .
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Gwero said: Cactu, ?Que chingonas fotos(fucking awesome pics)!
I felt an uncontolable desire to get out of the car at that spot and just after the light faded, I busted out the cell fone light, and said a few words to the mushrooms, cactu style, and BINGO! I learned more from that guy in 3 days than I have in 20 years of hunting mushrooms! Thanks hermano, I'll see you soon.
Hasta, Blondie
thanks to you that is posible ......
iam glad you got off the car, and i knew you have the power  hope to see you soon to ..
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kaal-kopje said: those young ones remind me a bit of azures thanks for posting these cactu!
yeah and like caynescens too, sometimes i will post how they change a bit after drying and when they are more old.
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warriorsoul said: Very interesting find Cactu! Did you notice the caps to be strongly hygrophanous? The description also mentions them easily bluing..Got a pic of a dried specimen?
Any preliminary microscopy done? 
very strongly hygrophanus for sure , they blues but the blue fade as inski mentioned and is not as the blue iam use to see dried speciemn i can take a few for ya . let me put how they change .
so that night rain fall and they all got pretty wet but in the morning the sun hit good and at that altitute the wind is very cold . i love that mountain .. this is how they look when they are young and humid

 look the variation of a pin and a old specimen i dont know how much they last , but i guees like 5 days , when they are old and humid they remind me of stunzii .
 growind next to a log of a plant of hight altitude
 there where twing and branches and log for then to eat,
 en la mañana todo se ve mas claro
 this coprinus also grow there




 si si las mejores fotos de aztecorum en el internet solo aqui


 the sum is rising more and more the dew is going to evaporate soon
 after el gwero pick all this you can notice how they are drying

 they dry fast
 the pile of gwero and my pile in my hat
 notice how white they are now ¡¡
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Re: ¡AZTECORUM!!! KICK ASS PICTURES [Re: cactu]
#11260032 - 10/16/09 12:38 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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iam loking at your thread warriorsoul and since that day your find was very interesting to me, and got me hoping some day i found aztecorum , here we are few years later with more information and specimens to study , now i see the connection of this specie with the temperate wood lovers. i will quote you to help get more discussion on the subject.
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warriorsoul said: Workman i got my info here.. Variation, Distribution, Ethnomycological Data and Relationships of Psilocybe aztecorum, a Mexican Hallucinogenic Mushroom Gastón Guzmán Mycologia, Vol. 70, No. 2. (Mar. - Apr., 1978), pp. 385-396.
"Psilocybe baeocystis as I studied in the type (Sipe 754, Nov. 1, 1945 ; MICH) and in many collections made in the Pacific Northwest, is very hygrophanous and, in some stages, quite similar in appearance to P. aztecorum. The only difference found in the Mexican fungus is in the shape of the spores in face view. In fact, the mango form of the spores of P. baeocystis is a good character which can be used to separate it from P. aztecorum.
It is probable that P. aztecorum originated from a subtropical species such as P. mexicana Heim which has the biggest spores of all species in the subtropics, (7.7-)8.8-9.9(-12) x (5.5-)6.6-7.7(-8.2) x 6-7 pm (from the study of the type in PC) and mycenoid fruit bodies, but without a white pileus, some subrhombic spores, and terricolous to sublignicolous habitat. Psilocybe mexicana, on the other hand, seems to have had its origin from tropical terricolous species such as those recently described by the author from evergreen tropical forests, which have small spores and brown cystidia. Thus, it seems that species of Psilocybe have small spores and brown cystidia in the tropics, moderately sized spores and hyaline cystidia in the subtropics and large spores and hyaline cystidia in the temperate or cold regions. This same phylogenetic sequence is observed in the size and complexity of the spores of Scleroderwza (Guzmin, 1970), which show small and simple spores in the tropics, as in S. sinnamariense Mont., and large and complex spores in temperate forests, as in S. hypogacuwz. Thus Psilocybe aztecorum is, in Mexico, one of the most highly evolved species of the genus, and it seems that P. baeocystis and P.quebecensis had their origin from this Mexican species, through two different phylogenetic ways, through the high mountains, Psilocybe cyanescens probably had its origin from some stirp of the subtropical species, close to P. mexicana. From this point of view, P. aztecorum var. bonetii is more primitive because of its smaller spores and presence at lower elevations."
The similarity to baeocystis is interesting. Are all the basidia 4 spored like baeocystis or quebecensis? or are they 1,2,3,and 4 spored like Psilcybe aztecorum?
Maybe this is a third distinct species descended from Psilocybe aztecorum that evolved parallel and seperate to quebecensis with this scenerio the maine species could have an explainable resemblance to Psilocybe baeocystis from its initial split with Psilocybe aztecorum var. aztecorum.
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Re: ¡AZTECORUM!!! KICK ASS PICTURES [Re: cactu]
#11584194 - 12/04/09 01:21 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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this are the best pictures of the Psilocybe aztecorum i could find in the net , iam glad i took then
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Re: ¡AZTECORUM!!! KICK ASS PICTURES [Re: cactu]
#11584230 - 12/04/09 01:28 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wow, just gorgeous!
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after seeing these pictures, my new favourite psilocybe is this and not because its revered and the strongest psilocybe there is, but because its a beautiful mushroom, for me, a close second is semilanceata, i could go as far to say i love this mushroom lol probably because ive had alot of experience with them and it never fails to suprise me! the different morphology of liberty cap, the more exciting the hunt in my opinion
cactu, you seem to have the most diverse range of psilocybe mushrooms ive seen on shroomery, a testiment to your beautiful natural habitat
im very jealous, hopefully one day i could go picking in your wonderful country)
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Re: ¡AZTECORUM!!! KICK ASS PICTURES [Re: libs]
#11585656 - 12/04/09 05:35 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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these are such amazing pictures. They look quite similar to p. stuntzii and p. baeocystis
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Re: ¡AZTECORUM!!! KICK ASS PICTURES [Re: cactu]
#12353571 - 04/08/10 03:12 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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I know this is old, but I missed this completely.
Incredible find cactu, gorgeous shots too.
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Re: ¡AZTECORUM!!! KICK ASS PICTURES [Re: wisp]
#13880885 - 01/31/11 08:39 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Bump!
Chasing old threads like this is a really exciting thing.
So many beautiful pictures! Has it been considered making a pictorial book?
Mainly for the sheer enjoyment, but also useful in showing variations in different species.
I know I'd buy one...
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Re: ¡AZTECORUM!!! KICK ASS PICTURES [Re: cactu]
#13885277 - 01/31/11 09:52 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Great Pics
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Re: ¡AZTECORUM!!! KICK ASS PICTURES [Re: cactu]
#13885382 - 01/31/11 10:13 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Awesome pics and finds, man
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not sure how i missed this. some peeps get mad for bumping old threads but this one is worth it IMO! great show cactu!!
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Great pics cactu! Love that trusted identifier hat!
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Re: ¡AZTECORUM!!! KICK ASS PICTURES [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
#13888852 - 02/01/11 03:49 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Beautiful pics
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Re: ¡AZTECORUM!!! KICK ASS PICTURES [Re: magicmush17]
#13891525 - 02/01/11 11:19 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Absolutly stunning pictures!!! Great work man, i'm jealous
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Re: ¡AZTECORUM!!! KICK ASS PICTURES [Re: Anglerfish]
#13893019 - 02/02/11 09:38 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Anglerfish said: Bump!
Chasing old threads like this is a really exciting thing.
So many beautiful pictures! Has it been considered making a pictorial book?
Mainly for the sheer enjoyment, but also useful in showing variations in different species.
I know I'd buy one... 
i will buy the too. dont know maybe will be cool to make some like that and left for the future generation we dont have tomany book with good pictures from mexico ....
thank you guys , the mushroooms are the winnners!!!!!
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Re: ¡AZTECORUM!!! KICK ASS PICTURES [Re: cactu]
#13896283 - 02/02/11 08:10 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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and we are winners getting to view your amazing aztecs!!!
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Shazam!!
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Re: ¡AZTECORUM!!! KICK ASS PICTURES [Re: bfogg8706]
#13899774 - 02/03/11 12:49 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Is aztecorum more potent that azuresens?
has there been a chemical workup on it? Anyone know the numbers in percent of dry weight?
What are people's personal experience (if anyone on this board has tested them) with aztecorum?
It sure is a pretty little thing! I wish we had those and zapotecorum here on the peninsula.
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Re: ¡AZTECORUM!!! KICK ASS PICTURES [Re: LanLord]
#13904515 - 02/04/11 10:12 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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pictures make me wanna...
sweet pics, cactu, thanks!
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