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 Twiztidsage
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 Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: limentroll]
#11223066 - 10/10/09 07:17 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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edit: off topic.
Edited by Alan Rockefeller (10/15/09 11:04 AM)
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quadracer
Porcini Hunter
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: Twiztidsage]
#11238586 - 10/13/09 09:18 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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There will definitely be some mushrooms popping up after this rain. Whew.
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cyanophilus
ectosporium
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: quadracer]
#11238624 - 10/13/09 09:28 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Rain? dont you mean Flood? 
just found some A. augustus yesterday, I hope this rain brings more!
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quadracer
Porcini Hunter
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: cyanophilus]
#11238647 - 10/13/09 09:32 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nice find! When does A. augustus go out of season?
Hopefully it will be light enough as to not cause mudslides. I've heard that morels can fruit during the fall, if it rains followed by some heat, has anyone come across this?
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cyanophilus
ectosporium
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: quadracer]
#11238675 - 10/13/09 09:37 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I usually find morels in the spring and summer, very rarely during the cold.
ive seen Agaricus augustus fruiting year round except the coldest and wettest of winter.
usually starts mid spring to late spring and goes through to early winter, with the peak being in july/august..
they are one of my favorites! much larger and tastier than the store-bought agaricus.
I didnt eat these though, they were near a runoff for a busy road, concentrated metals etc
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Don’t just keep ones head down and ones pace steady, look behind to make sure there’s no trail of destruction. Consider that the things below ones feet in physicality, are actually above ones head in importance. Remember that we are not the only ones alive, and are definitely not depended upon to continue living. We are an expendable creature in the eyes of the earth. Thus, we must treat ourselves like we are guests. Accommodations must be made for life all over the planet. The power of life is incredibly diverse, intelligent, and intricate in its adaptability. Lets not give nature a reason to consume us in turn.
-Me
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cyanophilus
ectosporium
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: cyanophilus]
#11246137 - 10/14/09 12:43 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Finally did some microscopy on some of the Panaeolopsis I found:
 
The Original Specimens!
Spore/Gill Microscopy @ 640x:
  
Looks like little brown kidney beans. 
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Don’t just keep ones head down and ones pace steady, look behind to make sure there’s no trail of destruction. Consider that the things below ones feet in physicality, are actually above ones head in importance. Remember that we are not the only ones alive, and are definitely not depended upon to continue living. We are an expendable creature in the eyes of the earth. Thus, we must treat ourselves like we are guests. Accommodations must be made for life all over the planet. The power of life is incredibly diverse, intelligent, and intricate in its adaptability. Lets not give nature a reason to consume us in turn.
-Me
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Alan Rockefeller
Mycologist
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: cyanophilus]
#11247664 - 10/14/09 04:50 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Looks like little brown kidney beans.
I don't see why they would look like that. I would expect the spores to either look like Panaeolina foenisecii spores or Panaeolus subbalteatus spores. But it doesn't look like either to me. These spores look collapsed, though some spores are just shaped like that. I am reading through Gerhardt 1996 to see if they describe cinctulus spores like that but my lack of comprehension of German is hindering my progress.
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cyanophilus
ectosporium
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#11247716 - 10/14/09 04:58 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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strange, I soaked the samples in 70% isopropyl for ten minutes, then added water and put the slips on.
maybe ill try butyl alcohol to rehydrate them next time.
More Agaricus augustus from today:
    
made a slurry and threw it into the woods, grow bastards grow!
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Don’t just keep ones head down and ones pace steady, look behind to make sure there’s no trail of destruction. Consider that the things below ones feet in physicality, are actually above ones head in importance. Remember that we are not the only ones alive, and are definitely not depended upon to continue living. We are an expendable creature in the eyes of the earth. Thus, we must treat ourselves like we are guests. Accommodations must be made for life all over the planet. The power of life is incredibly diverse, intelligent, and intricate in its adaptability. Lets not give nature a reason to consume us in turn.
-Me
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 World Spirit
PNW
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: cyanophilus]
#11247765 - 10/14/09 05:05 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Have you tried cooking the stems or do you discard them?
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cyanophilus
ectosporium
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: World Spirit]
#11247831 - 10/14/09 05:14 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I haven't used the stems in the past, but I will probably use them soon, I keep finding specimens near roads so I don't eat any part of them at all, and instead use them for spawn to make new patches.
I will be sure to update the wanna eat some thread when I try them though...
The stems do seem a bit tough.
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Don’t just keep ones head down and ones pace steady, look behind to make sure there’s no trail of destruction. Consider that the things below ones feet in physicality, are actually above ones head in importance. Remember that we are not the only ones alive, and are definitely not depended upon to continue living. We are an expendable creature in the eyes of the earth. Thus, we must treat ourselves like we are guests. Accommodations must be made for life all over the planet. The power of life is incredibly diverse, intelligent, and intricate in its adaptability. Lets not give nature a reason to consume us in turn.
-Me
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auweia
mountain biking
Registered: 12/03/05
Posts: 2,404
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: Twiztidsage]
#11249048 - 10/14/09 08:05 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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The bay Area will always have an over all better mushroom season than the PNW because of the simple fact that your season is shorter, and it snows, even on the coast, as early as November...and that's when it's usually over
but here in the Bay Area, our season doesn't usually 'peak' until Christmas
Yes, it rains much more in the PNW than the San Francisco Bay Area, but it rarely freezes here on the coast, therefore many mushrooms have adjusted to sprout all the way from October to April of next year
When your season is ending due to 3 feet of snow on the ground, Seattle, in December, ours in San Francisco is just picking up steam.
it takes longer here, so this climate is more geared toward people with plenty of patience, as opposed to everything happening in 1 month in many countries
it NEVER comes up all at once in the SF Bay Area like it does in more northern climates, but it does comes up, eventually
this sort of thing is really impossible to associate with 'competition' because it's far beyond the control of any humans
The early photo of the first good patch of cyans I posted a few days ago, the 'courtesy call' was only intended to show that Cyans have come up far earlier than expected around San Francisco, about a month earlier than usual
this is really ONLY because of the temperature drop from the last couple weeks BEFORE this last major storm yesterday
Basically, the temperature drop during the last couple of weeks, which in itself is unusual for this early in the season, allowed some pinning in some places, and even fewer places were well watered/irrigated enough to allow fruiting
the clues are really in the photo itself
7 days ago, and even today, all natural grass growing around San Francisco and most of California is brown. The fact that there is a tiny portion of green thick, lush grass in the corner of that photo means that it is well watered
it's going to take a few more weeks of rain to make all the grass green like that around San Francisco, and thus the 'real' mushroom season begins, full throttle
all of this so far is just early, unusual stuff...a clarion call, to the beginning of the 2009-2010 season
edit: Removed broken quoting
Edited by Alan Rockefeller (10/15/09 11:06 AM)
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auweia
mountain biking
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: auweia]
#11249194 - 10/14/09 08:29 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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oh yeah, I forgot to add this...we have at least 10 times the wood chip landscaping in the SF Bay Area than you do in Seattle, or anywhere in Puget Sound (I grew up there)
and Scotts is on the increase, yet again around SF..This year I see double from last year 
it's fucking amazing all the new landscaping/transplant areas for next year...sheesh
Edited by auweia (10/14/09 08:31 PM)
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cyanophilus
ectosporium
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: auweia]
#11249206 - 10/14/09 08:31 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah, I lived in washington for a while too, did lots of cyan hunting up there all over the puget.
I still say the bay is the best season.
and I agree about the Scotts, its everywhere now, every landscaping bed in town has it, they are replacing pine chips by the truckload.
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Don’t just keep ones head down and ones pace steady, look behind to make sure there’s no trail of destruction. Consider that the things below ones feet in physicality, are actually above ones head in importance. Remember that we are not the only ones alive, and are definitely not depended upon to continue living. We are an expendable creature in the eyes of the earth. Thus, we must treat ourselves like we are guests. Accommodations must be made for life all over the planet. The power of life is incredibly diverse, intelligent, and intricate in its adaptability. Lets not give nature a reason to consume us in turn.
-Me
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scout24
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: quadracer]
#11249309 - 10/14/09 08:51 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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edit: Off topic.
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Edited by Alan Rockefeller (10/15/09 11:02 AM)
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auweia
mountain biking
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: Twiztidsage]
#11249421 - 10/14/09 09:10 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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edit: Off topic.
Edited by Alan Rockefeller (10/15/09 11:00 AM)
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auweia
mountain biking
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: scout24]
#11249464 - 10/14/09 09:16 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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edit: Off topic
Edited by Alan Rockefeller (10/15/09 11:00 AM)
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cyanophilus
ectosporium
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: auweia]
#11249781 - 10/14/09 09:58 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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more on the Panaeolopsis sp
butyl alcohol sure works good for rehydrating, but damn it makes some nasty oily blotches on the slide
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Don’t just keep ones head down and ones pace steady, look behind to make sure there’s no trail of destruction. Consider that the things below ones feet in physicality, are actually above ones head in importance. Remember that we are not the only ones alive, and are definitely not depended upon to continue living. We are an expendable creature in the eyes of the earth. Thus, we must treat ourselves like we are guests. Accommodations must be made for life all over the planet. The power of life is incredibly diverse, intelligent, and intricate in its adaptability. Lets not give nature a reason to consume us in turn.
-Me
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World Spirit
PNW
Registered: 07/27/01
Posts: 9,817
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: cyanophilus]
#11249975 - 10/14/09 10:31 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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What technique per se do you use to get that good of a shot inside your microscope?!
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Alan Rockefeller
Mycologist
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: cyanophilus]
#11252713 - 10/15/09 11:14 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
more on the Panaeolopsis sp
I can't tell for sure but it appears that the spores are truncate, similar to Bolbitius vitellinus. Color matches too.
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butyl alcohol sure works good for rehydrating, but damn it makes some nasty oily blotches on the slide
I don't think there was anything wrong with your isopropyl rehydrations. I put a bit of 70% on the dried material, blow on it for a few seconds until its almost dry, then add a drop of water and a cover slip.
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What technique per se do you use to get that good of a shot inside your microscope?!
A small camera, held up to the eyepiece.
Its important to use a camera with a small lens, similar in size or smaller than the eyepeice of the scope.
Its also important to set the white balance on the camera to tungsten.
One thing that really helps is to use manual focus. It doesn't really matter where the camera is focused, but on manual focus they give you a little window in the center which is more zoomed in, so you can adjust the fine focus on the microscope more accurately.
Another thing that works well is to set the shooting mode to continuous, so you can adjust the fine focus on the microscope while holding down the shutter taking lots of pictures, so some have the perfect focus.
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ilikebond
MI6
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#11257799 - 10/16/09 02:29 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Is anyone going hunting this weekend to hopefully take advantage of the rain earlier this week? I'm planning on a hike Saturday, but not sure what area to head to - Santa Cruz, south bay, east bay, SF, Marin county... What do you guys think? What area or park would you head to if you were looking this weekend?--or where will you be looking? 
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