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 Almond Flour
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Night guys.....I still love you.
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Psilo_Subliminal
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your dumb...
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 elementswrath
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 Re: I hope weed stays illegal  [Re: Compass]
#11230513 - 10/12/09 01:33 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Compass said:
In my opinion, hemp, as opposed to marijuana, will not really cause that much damage to other industries. The only real viable uses are fiber for clothing and paper, and hemp seeds/oil for food.
I hope we see a lot of hemp used in the future for paper, if it proves its ecological benefits.
As for hemp clothing, it has some good uses, but cotton will still dominate. As hemp cloth becomes more affordable, hemp clothing will slowly, but surely begin to occupy a modest portion of the textile market, maybe 10-20%.
The use of hemp food products is more of a cultural issue. I myself have found some products to have an unpleasant aftertaste, however I haven't tried roasting. In fact, I think I will try that tomorrow for dinner, hemp hearts with brown rice.
you are a open minded poster with great things to say, wish there was more like you.
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Az0th
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Re: I hope weed stays illegal [Re: Compass]
#11230518 - 10/12/09 01:34 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I beg to differ. hemp was pretty much the number one cash crop in the world until it was made illegal.
It has already proven its benefits over thousands of years, we don't need to experiment.
Fibers can be used for construction too. They can build planks out of hemp that are stronger, more durable, and more flexible than wood. Not to mention hemp is vastly superior to cotton in both its durability, sustainability and strength.
The oil can be used for bio diesels, paint, plastics, varnish, essential oils, not to mention the food.
Hempseed itself is pretty much the single most nutritious plant we know of. It has the ideal levels of complete proteins in the right ratios for human consumption, and many other vitamins and essential fatty acids as well as fiber. A human being could live, quite healthily.. off eating just hempseed and water alone, with perhaps some vitamin C. Sure there are plenty of superfood plants like this, but hempseed is amazing as a healthy food.
The significance of hemp being freely available is no small thing. It is fucking huge. It would knock MAJOR dents in several industries if not topple them completely.
But at the same time it could help solve a lot of problems. It's not the solution to all of our problems.. but it would be a big fucking help!
As it can be grown virtually anywhere on the planet, nourishes the soil, and new crops every 3 months..it is a lot more renewable of a resource than crude oil, and trees.
The planet basically needs hemp. Or should I say our civilization
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elementswrath
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Re: I hope weed stays illegal [Re: Az0th]
#11230532 - 10/12/09 01:36 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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i like this poster too.
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Compass
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Re: I hope weed stays illegal [Re: Az0th]
#11230650 - 10/12/09 01:56 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I see you are well informed, and I do not entirely disagree. I am just trying to say that I used to be more of the mind that hemp was miraculous and have tempered it somewhat.
Like it or not, it is basically a new market in this day and age. Woefully, it faces many unfair obstacles.
To name some of these:
Established industries - lobbying and protecting themselves, along with advertising and shelf space
Lack of technology - the proper machines not having been developed with the competition that a larger, more profitable margin would have allowed in the period 1930-2009
Consumer preference - not only do you have to be just as good as existing products, but you have to go out of your way to be substantially better and spend money to get that information out there
I may concede about its use in construction. I am most skeptical about uses in biofuel and becoming a mainstream food (as opposed to being a health food like flaxseed). It is an easy plant to grow, but there are many plants that "nourish the soil" and this is mostly a talking point for advocates.
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Az0th
quantum transfiguration
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Re: I hope weed stays illegal [Re: Compass]
#11230711 - 10/12/09 02:09 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I agree there are some large obstacles to overcome, but most of those established industries who would be effected by it are the ones that helped make it and keep it illegal in the first place. (ie Dupont).
No doubt the technology today exists to make hemp easier to process than ever. There were mass mills specifically designed for it by our own government during WWII when all the farmers were asked to grow it for the war. That was a long time ago. It is also notoriously easy to grow.
Most people are skeptical of its uses in biofuel because we are accustomed to the gas guzzling Internal Combustion Engine. When in fact the first model Ts were designed to run on bio disesel, and the panels on the prototype was made of hemp plastics, and this was in the early 1900s. Without a doubt, hemp oil could replace our demand for crude oil, massive farms turning over perpetual crops could supply most of the energy demands of the US with just a small fraction of the space. I forget the exact number but it is entirely possible under our current system even.
As far as food, it really is a superfood, more hearty than something like flaxseed. It really is a super nutritious, super easy to grow plant that can solve a lot of hunger problems we have on this planet...
Obviously there are huge mountains to climb as they have built a massive wall of bullshit, and the industries formed around this lie. So there would most definitely be collateral damage. But it's for the good of humanity pretty much. Screw up a few corporations or help restore the balance of the planet hmmm
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Neuron
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Re: I hope weed stays illegal [Re: Az0th]
#11230758 - 10/12/09 02:17 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Can we ban Tea already for polluting the Shroomery with his nonstop whining?
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RationalEgo
Principium Individuationis
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Gumby said:
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I love it how I throw one thought provoking post out in the forum, and those who dont agree with me start flaming, and bitching to no extent.
Apparently I keep it a little too real for some in this forum 
I honestly think that was the sole purpose of this thread, just to get a rise out of people.
You say you want it to be illegal then provide some very vague statement saying "Having Marijuana be illegal helps my new town in allot of ways" and don't bother explaining it.
Lame Tea, very lame.
Sorry guys.....I know im dissapointing some of you with the quility of my posts/arguments/viewpoints, but at least im not some scrub hanging out in the Anonymous forum! At least I have the guts to post this regularly.....can you at least respect that?
As for what I posted this morning (this thread), I still stand my my argument. Its just comming to my attention recently how Marijuana helps the Emerald Triangle and allows small towns to thrive. That and Logging are the major sources of income, and since I have characteristics of a tree hugging-masonjar tea drinking hippie......Id rather Marijuana stay illegal than cut down a bunch of trees.
Keep in mind ive been on probation for 2 years and 2 months now  . Maybe all this forced sobriety is starting to brainwash me  Either way I think its sad how angry some of you stoners are getting. We in the shroomery are a family! And every now and then family members disagree with one another. No reason to throw a bad rating, and piss on my thread 
You deserve no respect.
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KrishnaDreamer
I bleed nicotine...
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Re: I hope weed stays illegal [Re: RationalEgo]
#11231096 - 10/12/09 03:35 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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tea- the new dea spokesperson.
lol about saving the emerald triangle- get a real job.
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elementswrath
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at first i thought tea was a good guy till i notice he became a nut and egotistical.
"I'm converting one shroomerite at a time" give me a fucking break, "the truth" he says .
and he expects respect, LOL
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I AM SWIM
doin' thangs
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It's obvious tea is a reptilian, I have dedicated many years to understanding the reptilian mind, and I think I found living proof.
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Neuron
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Re: I hope weed stays illegal [Re: I AM SWIM]
#11232343 - 10/12/09 12:50 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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ROFL @ reptilian.
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wildchild68
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Tea said:
S I seriously hope it stays illegal. Not only will it allow us to divert attention to issues that actually mean something
...huh? By it staying illegal it will help divert attention? You make such little sense.
The issue of legalization will always be brought up until something is done about it.
If it actually was legalized, then attention will be diverted to other issues.
PS: you have one gigantic ego.
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Almond Flour
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Re: I hope weed stays illegal [Re: wildchild68]
#11233018 - 10/12/09 02:50 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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wildchild68 said:
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Tea said:
S I seriously hope it stays illegal. Not only will it allow us to divert attention to issues that actually mean something
...huh? By it staying illegal it will help divert attention? You make such little sense.
The issue of legalization will always be brought up until something is done about it.
If it actually was legalized, then attention will be diverted to other issues.
PS: you have one gigantic ego.
Why do you guys think I have a Giant Ego? This is why I hate using sarcasm over the internet and text messaging
Where are you getting an idea that im egotistical. I drink tea out of a jar 
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Women who seek to be equal with men lack ambition -Timothy Leary
Everyone has their own unique brand of toxic psychosis -Alexander Shulgin
living forever would be a terrible curse if there were not also quality of life to match it. -Unknown
There may be flies on you and me, but there are no flies on Jesus -Hunter Thompson
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Mchaggis
cawbstawmper
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yeah... HOT tea...
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RationalEgo
Principium Individuationis
Registered: 06/15/09
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Loc: Boston
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Tea said:
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wildchild68 said:
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Tea said:
S I seriously hope it stays illegal. Not only will it allow us to divert attention to issues that actually mean something
...huh? By it staying illegal it will help divert attention? You make such little sense.
The issue of legalization will always be brought up until something is done about it.
If it actually was legalized, then attention will be diverted to other issues.
PS: you have one gigantic ego.
Why do you guys think I have a Giant Ego? This is why I hate using sarcasm over the internet and text messaging
Where are you getting an idea that im egotistical. I drink tea out of a jar
I don't think you have a giant ego. I just think your assertions are infantile and idiotic.
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sirdonut
riding the cosmic giggle
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Re: I hope weed stays illegal [Re: RationalEgo]
#11234089 - 10/12/09 05:59 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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only people with giant egos drink tea out of a fucking jar. 
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Neuron
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Re: I hope weed stays illegal [Re: sirdonut]
#11234108 - 10/12/09 06:01 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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only people with giant egos drink tea out of a fucking jar.
ROFL, so true, hahaha.
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