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Western Vulcan de Fuego, Mexico
    #11203022 - 10/07/09 07:43 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Many thanks to Cactu and Airdog for making all of this possible.

We slept in a cool barn type structure - not really vacant but not really occupied either.  Saved having to set up tents.

We decided to get up real early so we could hunt as many mushrooms as possible and still get back to Guadalajara in the afternoon.

This is Vulcan de Fuego, the most active volcano in Mexico and one of the most dangerous in the world.

5:30am





This place has really interesting tropical plants (Cuphea sp.)



The locals identified this as a Dwarf Eagle, though I am unable to figure out which species they were referring to.





A rare terrestrial orchid - usually they grow on trees.



I don't know what type of flowers these are.











Dahlia's are extremely colorful



Here is a coffee tree growing at the yerba buena restaurant, our favorite restaurant in the area. 



This may be the most authentic restaurant in all of Mexico.  Here is the kitchen stove.  When they are not cooking food here they are roasting fresh coffee beans.



Here is Cactu griding coffee that was still hot from roasting.  It was very difficult to grind and made Cactu very strong!  Until they told him the secret to using the machine and then it was pretty easy.


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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11203071 - 10/07/09 07:50 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

where are the shrooms?

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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11203077 - 10/07/09 07:51 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

:sunny::thumbup::yesnod:all look so good i can not see the rest of the pictures


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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: cactu]
    #11203097 - 10/07/09 07:54 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

He's leaving us in suspense intentionally I think  :tongue:

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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11203796 - 10/07/09 09:28 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Nice shots of a beautiful place Alan.

The plant in the third picture is in the genus Cuphea, also known as the cigarette bush. :smoker:

Only the top half of the pictures loaded for me. :sad:


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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: World Spirit]
    #11203843 - 10/07/09 09:33 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Psilocybe caerulescens

Sometimes they grow right out of the sandy wall



Or out of the sandy dry creek bed





I tried to make these look a bit like nipples



Kind of worked











Note Cactu's infamous styrofoam box in the background
























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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11203944 - 10/07/09 09:46 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

wow beautifull shots as always bro.:awesome:


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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11204055 - 10/07/09 10:04 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11204057 - 10/07/09 10:04 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Te y cactu es muey magnifico!
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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11204154 - 10/07/09 10:18 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Other mushrooms found in the same habitat include this almond smelling Agaricus:







A Pholiota





Amparoina spinosissima (previously known as Mycena spinosissima)





Copelandia cyanescens

On cow dung.  I have no idea how cows got down here.  But they did.









No one has been able to figure out what this is.  If I had known it was going to be such a problem I would have saved a sample.







Another unknown



Another unknown



This Conocybe was growing right out of a rock!



The first time I have seen this particular substrate.



Dacryopinax elegans

ID'd by Tom Volk, who said "This looks exactly what I have seen in Wisconsin, North Carolina and elsewherein the USA. It belongs in the Dacrymycetaceae, with tuning fork basidia. Wood decayer, with “reverse cups.” Cool fungus."



Gymnopilus sp.







This Xylaria is really cool.  Tried to save some for ToxicMan but I am not sure if it made it back.



Daldinia eschscholzii





This might be a Clitocybula





Bolbitius





Ganoderma sp.




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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11204539 - 10/07/09 11:09 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Nice hunting session!!! wasnt it Alan? see you around next year!!!! always a pleasure...

btw... that is not nevado de colima... it is the volcan de fuego (fire volcano) and its not only the most active of mexico, it is one of the most dangerous in the whole world,

P.d. can you later point me where did you find those p. augustipleurocystidiata??? was that near colima?

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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: AIRDOG]
    #11205011 - 10/08/09 12:32 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

That caterpillar looks like a bandana. Thanks for sharing the mushroom pics.

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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11205832 - 10/08/09 05:17 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Once again, great pics. The minature eagle looks more like a parrot.

I noticed that Psilocybe caerulescens looks very similar to weilii, how close is the relationship between the two?

Is there a difference in strength?

Would weilii grow in the same enviroment, has anyone tried to spread spores there?

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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: northgahunt]
    #11205888 - 10/08/09 05:38 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

woooow! :eek:

great post! great pictures!

this one:

almost looks like some Cordyceps growing out of an insects head :tongue2:

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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: batheinthefountain]
    #11206107 - 10/08/09 06:51 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Western Vulcan de Fuego, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11206306 - 10/08/09 08:13 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Great pictures.  Nice report.

For 5:30am (first 2 pics) it was surprisingly light outside. 

The dwarf eagle does have a parrot like look.

Nice variety of active and inactive shrooms!

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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: northgahunt]
    #11206393 - 10/08/09 08:42 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Once again, great pics. The minature eagle looks more like a parrot.

I noticed that Psilocybe caerulescens looks very similar to weilii, how close is the relationship between the two?

Is there a difference in strength?

Would weilii grow in the same enviroment, has anyone tried to spread spores there?




They are very closely related mushrooms in the same section... I have never tried weilii but i guess they might be of equal potency... caerulescens is super potent when fresh....

bout spreading spores... why make 2 similar mushrooms to compete... i dont think weilii is hardy enough for caerulescens habitat

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Re: Western Vulcan de Fuego, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11207894 - 10/08/09 01:23 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Great pictures Alan, so colourful!
That's a Laughing Falcon, Herpetotheres cachinnans.
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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: AIRDOG]
    #11209454 - 10/08/09 05:19 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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P.d. can you later point me where did you find those p. augustipleurocystidiata??? was that near colima?




From your front door, travel 204.97 kilometers northwest.

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I noticed that Psilocybe caerulescens looks very similar to weilii, how close is the relationship between the two?




Extremely close.  Almost the same mushroom.  One difference is the pleurocystidia.  I am not sure if there are any macroscopic differences.

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That's a Laughing Falcon, Herpetotheres cachinnans.




Good call!  It was screaming at us for several minutes, exactly as described.

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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11209498 - 10/08/09 05:27 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

:handth: Stunning! Thank you for sharing :sunny:


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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: LouiseLouise]
    #11210133 - 10/08/09 07:08 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Beautiful pictures! Wow! Thx


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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: Ozium]
    #11210249 - 10/08/09 07:30 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Wow that is amazing!

I really liked the butterfly pics and the Amparoina spinosissima!

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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: LichenHikin]
    #11210383 - 10/08/09 07:46 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for sharing Alan, that is a tresure trove of beauty. many thank yous to ya.


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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: sprout70]
    #11213522 - 10/09/09 06:43 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you so much for the pictures, i love the volcano and caerulescens ones !

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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: karode13]
    #11215833 - 10/09/09 02:24 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Nice shots of a beautiful place Alan.

The plant in the third picture is in the genus Cuphea, also known as the cigarette bush. :smoker:

Only the top half of the pictures loaded for me. :sad:





I was just on my college campus and saw a plant that I thought I had recognized somewhere.  There it is, thanks for the ID.

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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11218520 - 10/09/09 11:42 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

The variety of forms of a life, adds paints in our life. I too have felt a part of this travel in the my life world.

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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: Razoom]
    #11264424 - 10/17/09 08:37 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I took a print from Alan of the copelandia cyanescens he shows in the picture above and fruited it.  The fruits are among the most petite I've seen for the species, with even the largest caps no bigger than a nickle.  The first flush has been a low yield, but I've seen other times when the second flush is the "big one".  What was more remarkable was the rapid, deep bluing I saw.

In the pictures you can see where I tried to water the bottoms of the fruiting bodies but the tops got wet (which is allegedly not good for this species but they're about at harvest anyway and the ground was too dry).  What was amazing is that in only a few minutes, the water caused a bluing reaction so intense that there was literally blue drops coming off some of the caps.  Judging from the highly vigorous bluing reaction, I suspect the strain may be very potent.


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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: Blue Helix]
    #11265492 - 10/17/09 12:42 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

danm  that is a fast grow ,,how much it took you to  germination to fruiting ?


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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: cactu]
    #11265545 - 10/17/09 12:50 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

How long is mushroom season down there? Do they grow all winter?

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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #11265559 - 10/17/09 12:52 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

well in some places well cold  front  paneolus and ps cubensis can grow on winter and spring usually in the coastal regions and where the cold front bring rain since they grow so fast in manure , but usually all psilocybes or derrumbes are only in the summer and fall.


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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: cactu]
    #11265564 - 10/17/09 12:53 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

It takes about a week for agar grow out, a week for the liquid culture to develop very dense (if constant stirred), a week for the spawn bag fruit out substrate to colonize, then about 10 days to fruits after the trays are laid/cased.  So about 4 or 5 weeks.  If you start with a liquid culture in a vacutainer, then you can reduce the time by a week or 3 to 4 weeks.

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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: Blue Helix]
    #11265626 - 10/17/09 01:03 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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How long is mushroom season down there? Do they grow all winter?




May through November in the places we visited (Jalisco and Michoacan).

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I took a print from Alan of the copelandia cyanescens he shows in the picture above and fruited it.




The spores are probably not from the Copelandia in this thread because I don't think any of them from this location got printed.  I think they fell apart/dried out/got crushed by P. caerulescens before we got home.  Its possible though.  Some of the fruits I found in this location were extremely tiny.  Its probably from the first picture in this thread (or this thread for mycotopia users).  Did the bag it was in give a strain name?

I still have a few prints left for qualified researchers.

What did you use for substrate?

I have it going on agar and it is really happy so far.

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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11265660 - 10/17/09 01:10 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Not just talking about for psilocybes but edibles too. How late will you typically find those?

Im going to visit Mexico in winter/spring.

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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #11265676 - 10/17/09 01:14 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Not just talking about for psilocybes but edibles too. How late will you typically find those?




Around the same time.

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Im going to visit Mexico in winter/spring.




In some places they fruit year round.  Mexico has extremely varied weather patterns.

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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11266058 - 10/17/09 02:33 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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The spores are probably not from the Copelandia in this thread because I don't think any of them from this location got printed.  I think they fell apart/dried out/got crushed by P. caerulescens before we got home.  Its possible though.  Some of the fruits I found in this location were extremely tiny.  Its probably from the first picture in this thread (or this thread for mycotopia users).  Did the bag it was in give a strain name?




The bag did not give any information other than the species.

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I still have a few prints left for qualified researchers.

What did you use for substrate?

I have it going on agar and it is really happy so far.





As anyone knows who has read any of my grow posts, I always go direct from liquid culture to the final fruit out substrate in large spawn bags then lay trays.  Trays are about 1.5" deep with a very thin 50/50 casing (less than 1/4").  The fruiting substrate formula for 3 large spawn bags is as follows:

Dehydrated horse manure  75  oz
Dry WBS                                18.8 oz
water                                      188 oz
vermiculite                            2.5 liter
Final moisture content was confirmed via microwave dehydration testing to be 65%

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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: Blue Helix]
    #11272166 - 10/18/09 04:08 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

This name is a wild strain at America? :grin:
Congratulate you. I did not see the fruit a Pan. cyan already pair of the years. The Last experiment with cool climate outdoor did not give the fruit. :crazy:
Today I have found several not active dung shroom on lifeless place of the clay .

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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: Razoom]
    #11305284 - 10/23/09 10:19 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

The mushroom strain has been producing literally a flush per day it seems with thousands of tiny fruits.  It is an interesting strain for sure.  I never saw so many tiny mushrooms!  Here are a few from yesterday's batch:



And today there are hundreds more.

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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: LouiseLouise]
    #11305380 - 10/23/09 10:42 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

wonderful pictures, especially the pretty little butterfly  :inlove3:


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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: rewdy]
    #11327637 - 10/26/09 08:52 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

After literally thousands of fruits, here is the sixth flush:



They just keep producing those tiny ones.  The strain may not produce big fruits, but what it lacks in size, it makes up for in numbers.

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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11343294 - 10/29/09 01:48 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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    #11347771 - 10/29/09 07:44 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

The quality of that video is exceptional for a camera in my opinion.  The audio is good and the picture is as clear as some digital camcorders.

I am going to try to grow psilocybe caerulescens soon, so it's nice to see their natural habitat.  It looks like sandy loam to me.  Is that how you'd describe it?

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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: Blue Helix]
    #11348114 - 10/29/09 08:35 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, sandy loam sounds about right.  Psilocybe caerulescens grows from buried woody debris on the shore of the dry creek beds, only right where the leaves and sticks from the trees fall into the rocky shore.  The zone that has mushrooms is only a few feet wide but is many miles long, going from below 1300 meters and continuing up to at least 2000 meters.  Captain future grew some recently (a strain from this location) and he had really good luck only after letting them sit for 5 months.

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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11348165 - 10/29/09 08:42 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

That video is fucking awesome Alan!!!:thumbup: I think its a start to a whole new kind of posting - just think - action mush hunt videos  - - -- - im hooked already

Keep it coming bro:biggrin:


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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: sporeRider]
    #11348243 - 10/29/09 08:52 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

damn i can not see the video ,,,:frown:


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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: cactu]
    #11348318 - 10/29/09 09:00 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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damn i can not see the video ,,,:frown:




In Mexico, everything is broken.

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I think its a start to a whole new kind of posting - just think - action mush hunt videos  - - -- - im hooked already




Fahkface started it.

Shouldn't be long before rule # 34 kicks in.

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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11348863 - 10/29/09 10:00 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Nice footage Alan, I hear a couple of sounds that are extremely familiar from my past:grin:
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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: inski]
    #11355787 - 10/31/09 03:23 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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Nice footage Alan, I hear a couple of sounds that are extremely familiar from my past:grin:





Holy crap that is hilarious, I didn't even realize that was in there.

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Re: Western Nevado de Colima, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11358056 - 10/31/09 02:49 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Haha, it is hilarious, I bet I can make a good guess at who is behind those sounds!
It really reminds me of hunting Psilocybe aucklandii in the pine forests when I was younger, the catalyst of this great mycological journey I'm on:cool:
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