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 CaptainTrips
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 people taking tripping too seriously?
#11156614 - 09/30/09 10:48 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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So...I've been getting kind of frustrated with people who take tripping really seriously (and I know that sounds kind of contradictory, as I'm posting on the shroomery :P) but I mean, what happened too the Merry Pranksters way of tripping? On so many threads I see people trying to read into trips so much, but by thinking so in depth, they completely miss the simplicity of it. It's like when you're trying to find something in your room, and you look in all the most ridiculous places until you realize its on your desk, in plain view. I know that this thread hasn't been well thought out either (I'm pretty tired hah) and that lots of you probably disagree.
I don't really know how to explain what I mean from this, but it just seems people are forgetting about the "let's just have a good time" aspect of tripping in favor of the "let's figure myself out" aspect. If that makes sense.
I want to hear all your opinions  and I'm not trying to flam that way of tripping in any way, to each his own.
EDIT
And I am in no way saying tripping is not important or serious :P it's just I tripped with a guy who only wanted to meditate on it a little while ago, and I really wanted to go adventuring. I didn't really enjoy the trip.
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Edited by CaptainTrips (09/30/09 10:55 AM)
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 Re: people taking tripping too seriously? [Re: CaptainTrips]
#11156639 - 09/30/09 10:54 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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anytime i've tried to find the meaning of life in a trip i end up freaking myself out, and when i just try and have fun i end up finding secrets to the meaning of life. i'm feeling ya.
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CaptainTrips
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Re: people taking tripping too seriously? [Re: h00ligaN]
#11156669 - 09/30/09 10:58 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Exactly! SO many people try to force these things or search so hard for them they miss them. It's just frustrating to see for me, and even more frustrating when I'm tripping with people who only want to meditate and sit in dark rooms (which can be awesome, but for 8 hours?? it isn't worth it)
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Re: people taking tripping too seriously? [Re: CaptainTrips]
#11156699 - 09/30/09 11:05 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah.. i just coaxed my wife last weekend to take some bomb ass doses with me and aimlessly walk around town. she was wanting to look at stuff like glow sticks and crap. i don't ever see her wasting time on glow sticks after the wicked visuals we had that night! we weren't headed anywhere.. just adventuring and talking. best time ever.
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Re: people taking tripping too seriously? [Re: CaptainTrips]
#11156710 - 09/30/09 11:08 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I agree.
People try to hard to find the meaning of life.
But nobody ever finds the meaning of life when there looking for it.
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Re: people taking tripping too seriously? [Re: h00ligaN]
#11156729 - 09/30/09 11:12 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Haha those are the best nights.
Glow sticks can be quite ridiculous sometimes though :P I remember one night I was at a music festival dosed on .5 molly, 4g shrooms, and 2 hits of acid (also quite a bit of rum- we were dressed as pirates so it was a requirement, haha). ANyway, we were all tripping mass, and they had set up this (approx.) 12ft glowstick stick man. It was the most amazing thing I've ever seen in my life.
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Re: people taking tripping too seriously? [Re: CaptainTrips]
#11156745 - 09/30/09 11:17 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I am with you on tripping to have fun. I don't need a drug to see the flaws in my life personally.
Furthermore, I don't want a hallucinogenic substance changing who I am.
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Edited by Legalize (09/30/09 11:18 AM)
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Re: people taking tripping too seriously? [Re: CaptainTrips]
#11156755 - 09/30/09 11:19 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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There are times to feel and times to think. You have to go with what your mind wants to do during that particular experience, if you force yourself to be introspective obviously that's not a good thing but it also isn't smart to ignore any thought processes and realizations about your life or self-view that you might have.
People who have read into their trip enough to post threads or input on this forum about their realizations or confusion, obviously did get introspective and want advice from others or to put it into words. it doesn't mean they didn't enjoy the trip, for me the most "feel good" trips are the ones where I really analyze my situation - I cleanse myself and feel completely renewed and ready for what life has in store.
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Re: people taking tripping too seriously? [Re: Legalize]
#11156768 - 09/30/09 11:21 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
echoesSG said:
I agree.
People try to hard to find the meaning of life.
But nobody ever finds the meaning of life when there looking for it.
Haha very true :P I don't think we're supposed to find the meaning of life during the course of our lifetime. I believe that's what creates lots of acid casualties. This constant search for a meaning.
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Legalize said:
I am with you on tripping to have fun. I don't need a drug to see the flaws in my life personally.
Furthermore, I don't want a hallucinogenic substance changing who I am.
Agreed
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I agree with you too gangster, but I just think there's a middleground that's lots of people forget about. I think there's a point where trying to find the meaning causes more problems than it solves
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Edited by CaptainTrips (09/30/09 11:31 AM)
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Re: people taking tripping too seriously? [Re: Legalize]
#11156811 - 09/30/09 11:29 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Furthermore, I don't want a hallucinogenic substance changing who I am.
Too bad. If you've already taken any hallucinogen it's already happened.
You are changed every second of every day......with every sound you hear it's implanted in your memory, and you can never go to before that sound......as par with dosing....you will always have that experience to reflect upon, so you can and ALWAYS will be changed from it....
As for the op
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Re: people taking tripping too seriously? [Re: CaptainTrips]
#11156856 - 09/30/09 11:34 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think the people who take tripping really seriously are the individuals who have experienced very serious profound life-changing realizations while tripping. I think just about everyone who has taken a psychedelic initially did it just to alter their consciousness and to have fun. The people who take tripping seriously are the ones who've discovered that psychedelics are extremely powerful tools that can be used for more significant purposes other than getting high. They make it possible to achieve new levels or awareness that were previously nearly impossible to achieve. Sometimes it takes a breakthrough into DMT Hyperspace to show you that psychedelics are more than just a drug that gets you high.
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Re: people taking tripping too seriously? [Re: NlightNd1]
#11157000 - 09/30/09 11:52 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think this happened to me and it backfired. Tripping became weird for me. Atleast mushrooms. I have to get back to the fun part. Instead of being all anxious. I think I just forgot how to flow with it.
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Re: people taking tripping too seriously? [Re: NlightNd1]
#11157118 - 09/30/09 12:12 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
NlightNd1 said:
I think the people who take tripping really seriously are the individuals who have experienced very serious profound life-changing realizations while tripping. I think just about everyone who has taken a psychedelic initially did it just to alter their consciousness and to have fun. The people who take tripping seriously are the ones who've discovered that psychedelics are extremely powerful tools that can be used for more significant purposes other than getting high. They make it possible to achieve new levels or awareness that were previously nearly impossible to achieve. Sometimes it takes a breakthrough into DMT Hyperspace to show you that psychedelics are more than just a drug that gets you high.
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Re: people taking tripping too seriously? [Re: ShroomDoom]
#11157180 - 09/30/09 12:22 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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i like to have "fun" trips and "deep" trips, they are both amazing, i like to enjoy the best of both worlds
tripping is simply the shit and i like to explore my high in every way that i can
sometimes i decide what it is im wanting from a trip before i dose and then i just do it. usually between fun, spiritual, or self exploring
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generally trying to learn a valuable lesson isn't much fun, but rather enlightening. I don't see anything wrong in wanting to spend your trip meditating(to each his/her own, like you said). Not everyone will think it's fun to drop acid and venture out. You especially have to take into consideration the location of the tripper. I know that for myself, going outside is a horrible idea. Maybe if I lived near some awesome landscapes or safe/open areas. I can learn just as much about the outside world(and there inside one..whoaa dude ) sitting in a dark room than being outside. regardless, it's enjoyable depending on the comfort of the trip. I think taking psyches in public events would cause more people to be put off by it, rather than meditating at home IMO.
Knowledge can very well lead to depression(which is why many just want to have fun on substances), but that is a hump that you need to overcome to become reborn. Realizing that you spent too much time in your life "just trying to have fun" can also become depressing when you become older. I don't think there is a right way or a wrong way..it's all just "your" way.
well, unless you just play in traffic with that shit, then it's the wrong way!
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This tedious path I've chosen here,I certainly would've walked away by now.
Gonna wait it out.
If there were no desire to heal The damaged and broken met along
This tedious path I've chosen hereI certainly would've walked away by now.
And I still may ... (sigh) ... I still may.Be patient.
I must keep reminding myself of this.
Edited by desiretoheal (09/30/09 12:29 PM)
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Re: people taking tripping too seriously? [Re: tracedwards313]
#11157250 - 09/30/09 12:35 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'd rather see people taking it too seriously than people using substances irresponsibly and without respect for themselves or for the substance.
It's disappointing when I hear about people who have had a 'bad trip' after taking a drug in combination with alcohol (or any number of other chemicals), or while trying to use shrooms as a 'party drug', and then they wonder why they didn't have a good time.
That said, I'm all for adventuring. It's fun to trip without any particular goal in mind, but I don't think that negates the need for preparation and respect.
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Re: people taking tripping too seriously? [Re: ForeverAndBack]
#11157368 - 09/30/09 12:58 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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"Too seriously???" '"TOO SERIOUSLY" that is BLASPHEMY...The Psychedelic Inquisition will be around to your home in short order with brands and pincers (and salvia) to hear your full confession and correct that attitude. These "partyers" must not be allowed to corrupt.
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Re: people taking tripping too seriously? [Re: ForeverAndBack]
#11157429 - 09/30/09 01:07 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I respect psychedelics very much because of their ability to alter your perceptions so drastically. But I defiantly try to take the experiences with a grain of salt. The bottom line is that the drug is simply altering your perception of reality... so many people try to make that into so much more than it really is. I mean, psychedelics have shown me amazing things... but at the same time, they've taken me the other way and showed me that I'm really not very important in the grand scheme of things. A lot of people tend to take themselves too seriously, and in turn try to pretend their experiences are much more important than they really are and take psychedelics too seriously.
I'm all for being safe and having a good time while learning a bit about myself in the process. So many people are quick to proclaim psychedelics are the end all be all or an entry to the spirit realm or some other crock of horse shit. They're just so delusioned and can't make sense of such profound experiences they end up making it into so much more than it is and taking it way too seriously.
The drugs are changing your brain chemistry and therefore altering your perception of reality, it is what it is... I personally don't feel the need to pretend it's anymore than that- but I guess I could see why some would.
This is coming from someone who's done LSD 100+ times, Mushrooms quite a bit, various RC's, DMT, Salvia, and all that good stuff. I'm not a noob who will learn in time, I'm the opposite... I'm a guy who started out believing in all kinds of horse crap and then learn to take myself less seriously over the years.
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Re: people taking tripping too seriously? [Re: CaptainTrips]
#11157510 - 09/30/09 01:16 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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sometimes its not so simple. every time I tripp thinking its gona be a blast and have alot of fun. I end up loosing my mind, and its fucks with me. So for a while now I have ben reading up and "preparing for it" taking it seriously. mushrooms put you in the passanger seat, them being the driver. yea you could have fun and roll with it. but what if the driver decides to hit a wall, or slam on the breaks. you have to be prepared for it.
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Re: people taking tripping too seriously? [Re: Subconscious]
#11157568 - 09/30/09 01:22 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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i suppose the indigenous people of the Amazon are just wasting their time then? centuries upon centuries of "psychedelic" use and you think they would have got it by now that they are just looking too hard?
bologna.
..I honestly feel many of you have missed some key points, regardless of the amount of times you have taken LSD or whatever entheogens it may be.
Perhaps some of you aren't taking trips serious enough and give it the respect it deserves. It doesn't fall in our hands to be used as entertainment.
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If there were no rewards to reap,No loving embrace to see me through
This tedious path I've chosen here,I certainly would've walked away by now.
Gonna wait it out.
If there were no desire to heal The damaged and broken met along
This tedious path I've chosen hereI certainly would've walked away by now.
And I still may ... (sigh) ... I still may.Be patient.
I must keep reminding myself of this.
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