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 Re: bill clinton fucking sucked [Re: djmako7]
#11149019 - 09/29/09 07:01 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'll by a boat with the gold and sail my way to some uninhabited island.
Which island? I doubt there's a habitable island that is uninhabited within a thousand miles of anywhere.
And what good is gold if the island has no people? Take toilet paper.
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Re: bill clinton fucking sucked [Re: Doc_T]
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djmako7 said:
I'll by a boat with the gold and sail my way to some uninhabited island.
Which island? I doubt there's a habitable island that is uninhabited within a thousand miles of anywhere.
And what good is gold if the island has no people? Take toilet paper.
Well the gold is to buy a boat I wouldnt need to buy anything after the fact and there are several thousand islands near indonesia that doesn't have a human soul on it. If you don't know how to catch your own food or build a fire you'd be fucked but luckily those skills come naturally.
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Re: bill clinton fucking sucked [Re: djmako7]
#11149918 - 09/29/09 10:36 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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what's to stop the seller from shooting you and taking the gold, if the
country falls I'm sure there will be some measure of lawlessness
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Re: bill clinton fucking sucked [Re: Prisoner#1]
#11150494 - 09/29/09 12:27 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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he actually balanced and reversed the trend of the federal budget. he definitely gets points from me for doing that.
smoke and mirrors
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_n4_v46/ai_14885290/
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1385&dat=19970211&id=_GgWAAAAIBAJ&sjid=TRUEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6843,3732568
http://www.theneweditor.com/index.php?/archives/3063-The-5-Trillion-Surplus-The-Myth-that-Refuses-to-Die.html
there's plenty of articles still being written about the myths of the clinton budget
Ummm - did you read any of the articles you posted??? Not a single one of them disproves the Clinton surplus.
1. The first article was printed in 1994, LONG before there was ever a budget surplus. The author claims a balanced budget isn't possible because of proposed spending increases. He fails to understand that a balanced budget can also come from increased tax revenue.
2. The second article, printed in 1997, makes exactly the same mistake.
3. The 3rd article simply claims the Clinton surplus is a myth, but doesn't provide any support to that claim.
Please try again.
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Re: bill clinton fucking sucked [Re: Prisoner#1]
#11150514 - 09/29/09 12:30 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yrat said:
he actually balanced and reversed the trend of the federal budget. he definitely gets points from me for doing that.
smoke and mirrors
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_n4_v46/ai_14885290/
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1385&dat=19970211&id=_GgWAAAAIBAJ&sjid=TRUEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6843,3732568
http://www.theneweditor.com/index.php?/archives/3063-The-5-Trillion-Surplus-The-Myth-that-Refuses-to-Die.html
there's plenty of articles still being written about the myths of the clinton budget
Ummm - did you read any of the articles you posted??? Not a single one of them disproves the Clinton surplus.
1. The first article was printed in 1994, LONG before there was ever a budget surplus. The author claims a balanced budget isn't possible because of proposed spending increases. He fails to understand that a balanced budget can also come from increased tax revenue.
2. The second article, printed in 1997, makes exactly the same mistake.
3. The 3rd article simply claims the Clinton surplus is a myth, but doesn't provide any support to that claim.
Please try again.
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Re: bill clinton fucking sucked [Re: Prisoner#1]
#11150556 - 09/29/09 12:37 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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what's to stop the seller from shooting you and taking the gold, if the
country falls I'm sure there will be some measure of lawlessness
What's to stop them? I dunno my 2 years in the Marines, my kevlar helm and vest my ar15 or my M44.
It will be like the wild wild west the only difference is I can pull a headshot from about 800 yards away with the AR and about 2 miles with the M44 .
Back to topic in 1999 Fannie Mae, the nation’s biggest underwriter of home mortgages, had been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people and felt pressure from stock holders to maintain its phenomenal growth in profits.
For personal future self aggrandizement clinton started making the lowered capital it was simply ponzi scheme.
The subprime mortgages are backed by real money in his last few weeks as president it was republican bill through and dismantling of campaign donations from lehman bros to buy and through and wendy gramm collusion for that allowed the real estate market look towards the real commodity the real money in his life after that.
The real property or capital to blame look towards the ceo of lehman bros to enrons debacle and alan greenspans continuing to expand.
The first real money in this arena also bill through and 2006 fannie and risk ratios that blamewasnt there would be no worldwide banking crisis mortgages there would be.
The phil and to the real property or capital to risk ratios that fire the financial institutions.
During the end of clintons admin the deficit of the country was near 1 trillion already. Back then the media did not report on the economy that much. People get their news from tv and radio and believe pretty much all of it. People were not worried becaus ethey were not fully aware of the economic problem.
Don't forget that bush jr. inherited a recession too.
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Re: bill clinton fucking sucked [Re: djmako7]
#11151182 - 09/29/09 02:22 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I can pull a headshot from about 800 yards away with the AR and about 2 miles with the M44
I'ma call bullshit on both those claims, we can save it for one of the other forums though
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Back to topic in 1999 Fannie Mae, the nation�s biggest underwriter of home mortgages, had been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people and felt pressure from stock holders to maintain its phenomenal growth in profits.
he also signed Graham/Leach/Bliley which allowed for the deregulation of
banks allowing them into investments, insurance, and other games. in 94
he signed a bill loosening lending regulations and guaranteeing the bad
loans that many banks were making and others were buying up
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Yrat said:
he actually balanced and reversed the trend of the federal budget. he definitely gets points from me for doing that.
smoke and mirrors
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_n4_v46/ai_14885290/
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1385&dat=19970211&id=_GgWAAAAIBAJ&sjid=TRUEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6843,3732568
http://www.theneweditor.com/index.php?/archives/3063-The-5-Trillion-Surplus-The-Myth-that-Refuses-to-Die.html
there's plenty of articles still being written about the myths of the clinton budget
Ummm - did you read any of the articles you posted??? Not a single one of them disproves the Clinton surplus.
1. The first article was printed in 1994, LONG before there was ever a budget surplus. The author claims a balanced budget isn't possible because of proposed spending increases. He fails to understand that a balanced budget can also come from increased tax revenue.
2. The second article, printed in 1997, makes exactly the same mistake.
3. The 3rd article simply claims the Clinton surplus is a myth, but doesn't provide any support to that claim.
Please try again.
first explains why there should have been a windfall
the second was a misposted link, it should have been this
http://www.craigsteiner.us/articles/16
the 3rd shows that the dems are still trying to claim the surplus, as I
had stated, it's still being talked about
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 Re: bill clinton fucking sucked [Re: Smackshadow]
#11151302 - 09/29/09 02:39 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Horseshit. We don't have a free market in America, we haven't for quite some time. I realize most folk don't even bother to research the economics that libertarians study. Mises.org has books in pdf. form for you to read and commentary on current economic events from an Austrian perspective. You would do well to check that out. If you disagree with free market economics then we can certainly debate it honestly and figure out what's true.
Frederic Bastiat (circa 1801-1850) is a good fellow to read up on. His "That Which is Seen and that Which is not Seen" is an excellent place to start in beginning to understand the costs of big government spending.
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Re: bill clinton fucking sucked [Re: Prisoner#1]
#11151549 - 09/29/09 03:15 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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first explains why there should have been a windfall
the second was a misposted link, it should have been this
http://www.craigsteiner.us/articles/16
the 3rd shows that the dems are still trying to claim the surplus, as I
had stated, it's still being talked about
The first and last points still don't show that Clinton failed to have a balanced budget, but the new link you posted makes an interesting argument.
It says that under Clinton, social security took in more money than it needed, and the Government used that excess to pay down the public debt (as it always had before). But it argues that this excess shouldn't have been credited to Clinton; instead, it should have remained in Social Security so that future presidents who have a social security shortage can use the Clinton surplus without being penalized themselves. I'm not a Government accountant, so I can't say whose accounting methodology is correct. However, it seems a bit unfair to say that Clinton shouldn't get credit for his social security surplus.
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Re: bill clinton fucking sucked [Re: Prisoner#1]
#11151715 - 09/29/09 03:44 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'ma call bullshit on both those claims, we can save it for one of the other forums though
The Marines train us that way. They teach you in bootcamp one shot one kill from 1,000 yards. It may not be a headshot but most likely a lethal shot from 1000 yards. <--- This is a requirement to graduate from bootcamp.
The M44 range is 2 and a half miles. It is a sniper rifle.
Ok so looks like the Marine corps is going soft because it is now 500 yards to graduate, before it was a half mile.
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Re: bill clinton fucking sucked [Re: djmako7]
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> The M44 range is 2 and a half miles. It is a sniper rifle.
It fires a .308 round (7.62x54mmR actually) and has an effective range of around 800 meters with optical scope and around two thirds of that with iron sights. Last time I checked, 2.5 miles was a bit over 4000 meters. Just because a bullet can travel that far does not mean that you can fire it accurately that far.
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The first and last points still don't show that Clinton failed to have a balanced budget, but the new link you posted makes an interesting argument.
I've explained the first and last, the intent wasnt to prove anything
but to further explain the numerous sources of money, budget cuts, etc,
unfortunately clinton decided to take extra $70bn, double it, toss in a
little more gravy and give it to his friends in banking
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However, it seems a bit unfair to say that Clinton shouldn't get credit for his social security surplus.
it's not clintons surplus, it belonged to the people that earned the
money and their methodology of paying down debt is flawed, one of the
reasons SSI is struggling, not to mention that an SSI surplus isnt a
budget surplus and it certainly didnt reach the trillions that dems are
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Re: bill clinton fucking sucked [Re: djmako7]
#11152216 - 09/29/09 05:11 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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The Marines train us that way. They teach you in bootcamp one shot one kill from 1,000 yards. It may not be a headshot but most likely a lethal shot from 1000 yards. <--- This is a requirement to graduate from bootcamp.
no... I spent 8 years in the army, 6 of those was with the 5th special
forces, 101st airborne, I've served in 4 theaters of combat, I qualified
as expert in bootcamp, in which you have to hit 36 of 40 targets with
open sights to qualify, 4 of those targets are at the 300m mark which is
as far as the military expects any proficient shooter to shoot. the
qualifications for the army and marines is the same
qualifications for a sniper is much different and I'll let you know now
that the effective range of the 5.56 NATO is a maximum of 600 meters,
after that the bullet will bounce off a jacket, at 800 meters that
bullet will experience more than 30 feet of drop, at 800 meters you have
to be able to judge windage which can change several times prior to
hitting that target in addition to elevation to compensate for gravity
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The M44 range is 2 and a half miles. It is a sniper rifle.
Ok so looks like the Marine corps is going soft because it is now 500 yards to graduate, before it was a half mile.
the range of the .50BMG 7000m, the effective range is 2400m when fired
from the M107, well under that 'range' you claim for a long .30cal, for
the record, the longest recorded sniper kill was at 2300m with the TAC-50 bolt action by a canadian
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Re: bill clinton fucking sucked [Re: Prisoner#1]
#11152381 - 09/29/09 05:33 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm curious. How big is the target you are expected to hit with open sights at 300M? Because at 300M without a scope a cat is a rumor, a goat is a guess and a man is a prayer.
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Re: bill clinton fucking sucked [Re: zappaisgod]
#11152553 - 09/29/09 05:56 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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you act like it's something special... a bunch of silly arabs hit a couple of skinny buildings from more than 100 miles away
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Re: bill clinton fucking sucked [Re: Prisoner#1]
#11152631 - 09/29/09 06:13 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Are you riding them bullets?
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Re: bill clinton fucking sucked [Re: zappaisgod]
#11152761 - 09/29/09 06:39 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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many can hit a man sized target at 300 meters, most shoot the distance for qualifying at 200-250m
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Re: bill clinton fucking sucked [Re: Prisoner#1]
#11152774 - 09/29/09 06:42 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was wondering. I don't think I can see a cat at 300M.
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Re: bill clinton fucking sucked [Re: zappaisgod]
#11155403 - 09/30/09 04:27 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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how did a thread about bill clinton become a thread about shooting cats?
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