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 Cannabischarlie
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 bill clinton fucking sucked 
#11122297 - 09/24/09 10:02 PM (1 month, 27 days ago) |
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my father is admittedly a yellow dog democrat.
my only problem is he cant be the least bit critical of anything a democrat does, he instead changes the subject and more or less turns it back to what the republicans are doing wrong, blah blah blah fucking conservatives.
its like hes a total fucking idiot about the matter. i even told him most people will find a politician, particularly a president, whom they really dislike even if they consider themselves one way or the other.
i think clinton was a truly shitty president. nothing about the economy doing better really had anything to do with what he did and there are a lot of reasons i think hes a worthless piece of shit.
I truly hate his policies and i think he is a fucking socialist. I also think both bushes where socialists and a lot of republicans too. I actually really like Obama because I think he is the first president in my lifetime (i am 26) with any fucking brains and concept of doing things properly, having conviction and having a fucking nutsack. I am not a democrat and I still really hate fucking conservatives. I also hate how they have hijacked the republican party and i think "democrat" and "republican" mean different things every quarter century, and even in nixons time and prior there seemed to be fewer and fewer republicans who werent conservatives. There is nothing good about conservatives whatsoever. 
Bill Clinton is a farce of a president as a whole.
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 we could all use a little more sunshine.
 yeah, she's funny and somewhat interesting. not a beauty queen, but not bad lookin. i'd feel quite honored to fuck janine garofalo. -tiny_rabid_birds
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Meh. Not the worst president ever. I kinda liked him for a while.
But to call him and both Bushes 'socialists' suggests you may not be using the standard meaning of the term. It doesn't apply to all three.
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Cannabischarlie
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Re: bill clinton fucking sucked [Re: Doc_T]
#11122457 - 09/24/09 10:20 PM (1 month, 27 days ago) |
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Doc_T said:
Meh. Not the worst president ever. I kinda liked him for a while.
But to call him and both Bushes 'socialists' suggests you may not be using the standard meaning of the term. It doesn't apply to all three.
whereabouts in Colorado do you live? I live here also.
While National Socialists hate communism, And Communists hated National Socialists, it is the same as Conservatives hating "liberal socialists" and well you get the gist.
Conservatives point to Ayn Rand as "one of them" even know that is not even remotely true. Ayn Rand believed that man’s own happiness is the moral purpose of his life. Conservatives believe in sacrifice to “the country” (much like socialists believe in sacrifice to “the people” – see, they aren’t so different after all), and servitude to God.
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we could all use a little more sunshine.
yeah, she's funny and somewhat interesting. not a beauty queen, but not bad lookin. i'd feel quite honored to fuck janine garofalo. -tiny_rabid_birds
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Yrat
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i think clinton was a truly shitty president. I truly hate his policies and i think he is a fucking socialist.
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I actually really like Obama
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Re: bill clinton fucking sucked [Re: Yrat]
#11123984 - 09/25/09 06:42 AM (1 month, 26 days ago) |
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I'm in Co Springs.
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Re: bill clinton fucking sucked [Re: Doc_T]
#11123997 - 09/25/09 06:54 AM (1 month, 26 days ago) |
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Doc_T said:
Meh. Not the worst president ever. I kinda liked him for a while.
But to call him and both Bushes 'socialists' suggests you may not be using the standard meaning of the term. It doesn't apply to all three.
I think he is one of the better ones we have had
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I think so aside from the part about sticking his finger in the camera and lying to me.
"I did not..." we all know it by heart.
He should have stuck his finger in the camera and said "It's none of your business, get stuffed".
I think history will soften the harshness, and we'll remember him more fondly as time goes on. Like Nixon.
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Re: bill clinton fucking sucked [Re: Doc_T]
#11124495 - 09/25/09 09:50 AM (1 month, 26 days ago) |
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Bill Clinton had his selling points.
The economy was strong during his terms. Which was a result of not doing anything to fuck it up during his term, but his economic policies did very little to insure future economic strength. He seemed to have a good grasp of foreign affairs.
Bill Clinton should have lost his job.
The Lewinsky scandal was about more than lying under oath. The none of your business argument really doesn't fly. The President of the United States of America having sexual relations of any kind with an intern is sleazy at best. I would assert that the the top dog in our government having an affair with an intern is more a misuse of his position and even predatory abuse of power. Certainly not in the best interest of the public, and combined with the lied under oath condition should have resulted in a different outcome.
Have a nice day,
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Doc_T
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Sleazy yes. Impeachable, no. IMO.
If she'd been underage, or she got something out of it, or if she'd been working for another power... but it was just sleazy.
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MistaUNGA
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Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 7.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.64
just so you know where I stand...
if it weren't for conservatives, the libs would just run amok and pass every bone-headed piece of shit legislation they come up with and run the country's economy even quicker into the shitter, with green legislation that harms business and all that al gore bullshit. (like not watering farms in california because its killing fish because of water supply levels being too low  )
if it weren't for liberals, the conservatives wouldn't get anything done (if they were truly conservative). nowadays the republicans basically just pursue a fascist platform, and its the libs who keep that from happening (except for democrats being complicit on the Patriot Act, FISA Amendments, Military Commissions Act, TARP, Bailout, etc)
so you see both sides are complicit in ruining our country. thats what that balance is for, to kind of slow down the inevitable.
as for bill clinton, he sucked dick, not monica
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Re: bill clinton fucking sucked [Re: MistaUNGA]
#11124665 - 09/25/09 10:44 AM (1 month, 26 days ago) |
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Doc_T, she did get something out of it.
She was an unpaid intern from July 1995 to December 1995. The affair began in November of 1995 and ended in March 1997. From December 1995 to December 1997 she was a payed government employee, first at the White house, and then was move to the Pentagon in April 1996, as Lewinsky's superiors felt she was spending too much time around Clinton. So the time line is she was an unpaid intern in October 95, sucked Bill's dick in November, got a paying job at the White house in December.
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She probably could have gotten the job anyway. But you're right.
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Re: bill clinton fucking sucked [Re: Doc_T]
#11124809 - 09/25/09 11:19 AM (1 month, 26 days ago) |
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I agree, she probably could have gotten the job anyway.
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Quote:
Cannabischarlie said:
i think clinton was a truly shitty president. nothing about the economy doing better really had anything to do with what he did and there are a lot of reasons i think hes a worthless piece of shit.
I suppose this means you've been reading... good to know, the economy
during clintons administration was artificially 'improved' just as
clintons budget surplus was fabrication.
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Re: bill clinton fucking sucked [Re: Prisoner#1]
#11125030 - 09/25/09 12:05 PM (1 month, 26 days ago) |
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Cannabischarlie said:
i think clinton was a truly shitty president. nothing about the economy doing better really had anything to do with what he did and there are a lot of reasons i think hes a worthless piece of shit.
I suppose this means you've been reading... good to know, the economy
during clintons administration was artificially 'improved' just as
clintons budget surplus was fabrication.
Indeed, the overall economic strategy in America has been for decades: mortgaging the future for a present false prosperity.
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Re: bill clinton fucking sucked [Re: MistaUNGA]
#11125034 - 09/25/09 12:05 PM (1 month, 26 days ago) |
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MistaUNGA said:
nowadays the republicans basically just pursue a fascist platform,
Agreed. Fascist, not socialist. Clinton wasn't really a socialist either, not like Obama or Roosevelt.
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Re: bill clinton fucking sucked [Re: Doc_T]
#11125046 - 09/25/09 12:07 PM (1 month, 26 days ago) |
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Doc_T said:
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MistaUNGA said:
nowadays the republicans basically just pursue a fascist platform,
Agreed. Fascist, not socialist. Clinton wasn't really a socialist either, not like Obama or Roosevelt.
Given that fascism is by definition an economy in which government is taking over formerly private industries is not our present situation in America developing into fascism?
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Re: bill clinton fucking sucked [Re: Mr.Al]
#11125539 - 09/25/09 01:33 PM (1 month, 26 days ago) |
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The most popular storyline offered by these Monday morning quarterbacks is that the mistaken decision to allow Lehman to fail resulted from the Bush Administration's misplaced faith in the free markets. In this telling, the real crises began in the days following the Lehman bankruptcy, which unleashed a financial panic that would have caused complete economic collapse -- if not for the subsequent federal intervention.
In reality, Lehman's demise was simply the result of an unfolding crisis that began years before. Popular belief aside, allowing the institution to succumb to the overwhelming debts on its balance sheet was perhaps the only correct decision made by government since this crisis began. The propagandists' complete reversal of cause and effect now threatens to spur the government to compound prior mistakes and bring on the next phase of the financial crisis. Unfortunately, this chapter will likely be much more dangerous than what we saw last fall.
However, politics quickly trumped economics, and the Lehman trial balloon soon turned into the Hindenburg. Washington had no stomach for the ensuing financial carnage, and when other institutions began to topple, Bush, Paulson and Bernanke abandoned their prior convictions and threw all they had into the ensuing bailout bonanza. As a result, the moral hazard that they had sought to avoid now exists on a scale unprecedented in our history. Capitalism has been extinguished on Wall Street, and our financial institutions now exist as public utilities. The presidents of our biggest banks are now the highest paid civil servants in the world!
Since market forces are no longer allowed to allocate capital and control risk, these decisions are now made by government regulators and are then passed through to their subordinates on Wall Street. This perverse organizational structure constitutes a new form of American fascism.
~Peter Schiff
control over financial sector, auto sector, housing sector, have i forgotten any? if it's not fascism now, when does it start to be?
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Re: bill clinton fucking sucked [Re: Yrat]
#11126316 - 09/25/09 03:42 PM (1 month, 26 days ago) |
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I fucking love the Politics forum on the Shroomery.
I swear, this is not sarcastic, I am surprised almost every time I actually look up this shit.
~Monk
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Mr.Al
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Re: bill clinton fucking sucked [Re: numonkei]
#11126557 - 09/25/09 04:22 PM (1 month, 26 days ago) |
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numonkei said:
I fucking love the Politics forum on the Shroomery.
I swear, this is not sarcastic, I am surprised almost every time I actually look up this shit.
~Monk
The Germans have been talking about how the last person to nationalize their auto industry also had a funny mustache.
I recall Putin praising the effectiveness of the American propaganda machine. That was months ago though...
When Germans and Russians are legitimately making fun of American politics you know something has gone horribly wrong.
Edited by Mr.Al (09/25/09 04:31 PM)
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