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albien5
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Re: The Ultimate DMT Pipe - "The Machine" [Re: hoboblues]
#11035879 - 09/10/09 06:22 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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i like it and is cheap, nice pipe
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Psilocypher
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Re: The Ultimate DMT Pipe - "The Machine" [Re: NlightNd1]
#11036685 - 09/10/09 08:47 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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psilocybonautX said: I've heard of people using steel wool too. I assume you have to burn it first as well.
You have to use really coarse steel wool. The regular kind just ignites on fire.
Edit: Actually it seems that people have gotten steel wool confused with brillo or chore boy. I don't think you can use any type of steel wool.
Can you not just use a stainless steel base with 4 tiny air holes around the diameter? It will still heat the DMT without actually burning it (unlike a gauze), but the holes will still let you suck air through. I dunno... I've not read all the responses.
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Re: The Ultimate DMT Pipe - "The Machine" [Re: Psilocypher]
#11038770 - 09/11/09 05:32 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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NlightNd1 said:
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psilocybonautX said: I've heard of people using steel wool too. I assume you have to burn it first as well.
You have to use really coarse steel wool. The regular kind just ignites on fire.
Edit: Actually it seems that people have gotten steel wool confused with Brillo or chore boy. I don't think you can use any type of steel wool.
Can you not just use a stainless steel base with 4 tiny air holes around the diameter? It will still heat the DMT without actually burning it (unlike a gauze), but the holes will still let you suck air through. I dunno... I've not read all the responses.
The only problem I can see with that is, DMT turns mostly into liquid as you are vaporizing it. The point in using Chore Boy or Brillo is because it has a very large surface area to keep the DMT from dripping through. If you used a steel plate, the DMT is very likely going to melt and run off the plate as it turns into a liquid. If you use a Brillo or a Chore Boy with copper coating you must first burn the copper off with a propane tank or something similar. I know Chore Boys have a copper coating but I'm not sure about Brillos.
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Re: The Ultimate DMT Pipe - "The Machine" [Re: NlightNd1]
#11041466 - 09/11/09 04:07 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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This method is a waste of fucking time people.
Just go buy a 'oil burner' aka chalet (3 $)
Why would you want to run your dmt through metal like you are smoking crack?
stupid
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notapillow
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Re: The Ultimate DMT Pipe - "The Machine" [Re: Odum]
#11041829 - 09/11/09 05:19 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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im currently getting the ultimate spice made
it might take a while
as this freind is particularly lazt
yet always busy with somthing. so hopfully he find time for me so i can show it off to u folk
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Re: The Ultimate DMT Pipe - "The Machine" [Re: Cannashroom]
#12289588 - 03/28/10 08:28 PM (14 years, 3 days ago) |
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Do you have to pre-burn this stainless steel scrubbing pad? Its new & clean...
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Re: The Ultimate DMT Pipe - "The Machine" [Re: Odum]
#15318688 - 11/03/11 06:42 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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While it does work well as a method of delivery, an oil burner tends to accumulate burnt DMT in the bottom that will continue to get burnt every time you use it, unless you're able to clean it all off... With the machine, you can remove the metal piece whenever you want to.
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Odum said: This method is a waste of fucking time people.
Just go buy a 'oil burner' aka chalet (3 $)
Why would you want to run your dmt through metal like you are smoking crack?
stupid
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Re: The Ultimate DMT Pipe - "The Machine" [Re: chaosbydesign]
#15319158 - 11/03/11 08:07 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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you can clean out the burnt residue with a q-tip, dab the q-tip in some water with ash, also naphtha works well... until you learn how to smoke it without burning it which wastes it, if you have clean dmt and you don't burn the shit out of it there won't be any residue left behind
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Nyarlethotep
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Re: The Ultimate DMT Pipe - "The Machine" [Re: Nature Boy]
#15556957 - 12/22/11 02:44 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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Now I know what the "machine" is. Thank you.
However, something about using a meth/crack pipe just doesn't sit well with me. Makes me feel sketchy, and I personally dislike/stay away from head shops that sell them for that reason. Shit grosses me out for some reason.
Would putting it in a glass bottle and heating the bottom of the bottle work to ignite the steel wool? I think I'd just do that if that's the case, and maybe modify the mouth piece to filter/hit it better.
Might also work in a conventional bong, or a hooka. Here's what I'm thinking: Load the DMT into the tobacco/weed bong/hooka, and then load a small amount of steel wool on top. Ignite it, and that should do the same thing, right? Also cool because you can load the bong with water/ice, for a cleaner, cooler hit.
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Re: The Ultimate DMT Pipe - "The Machine" [Re: Nyarlethotep]
#15556987 - 12/22/11 02:50 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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if you don't like the idea of a crack pipe, make a changa blend and smoke it out of a pipe or bong like you would weed.
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Nyarlethotep
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Re: The Ultimate DMT Pipe - "The Machine" [Re: SurReality]
#15557007 - 12/22/11 02:54 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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SurReality said: if you don't like the idea of a crack pipe, make a changa blend and smoke it out of a pipe or bong like you would weed.
Yea, I'm just going to do that. I'll probably take the DMT and load some quality hash on top. The hash is slow burning and doesn't take much to ignite, and will keep smoldering for a good while. Seems like a good method.
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Re: The Ultimate DMT Pipe - "The Machine" [Re: Nyarlethotep]
#15557033 - 12/22/11 02:59 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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i don't think thats a good idea, the changa burns pretty fast... plus dmt really doesn't taste good at all and would just spoil the flavor of your hash. also smoking weed/hash at the same time as DMT can decrease the effect of DMT, it would be better to just smoke the dmt and then smoke your hash after tripping.
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Re: The Ultimate DMT Pipe - "The Machine" [Re: psilocybonautX]
#16143373 - 04/26/12 05:09 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Im new to the machine and want to be crystal clear on the operation before using any DMT on it... so do you need to be sucking or inhaling simultaneously while heating the brillo? Or will heating the brillo cause the pipe to fill with smoke on its own? can you apply several doses? 100 grams into the brillo? after the stuff resinates can it be re-vaporized to get more hits out of it?
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Re: The Ultimate DMT Pipe - "The Machine" [Re: Empereur]
#16144557 - 04/26/12 09:04 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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i would suggest having maybe a 50-100mg amount sprinkled on to of the STEEL WOOL, not brillo pad. you can use a torch lighter from a distance to heat up the dmt so it melts into the STEEL WOOL, not brillo pad. it helps to have a bottle that you can more easily see the opening of, and thereby heat propertly. you'll want to just barely barely barely inhale so that the bottle starts filling up with a thicker smoke... too thin and you might get a weaker dose once the chamber is filled to a decent amount hit it hard and take the biggest breath you can and hold it in if you can manage try taking another hit, but this would all be easier with a helping hand
getting the one (or more) big hit from the machine has been more successful for me than using a couple of different freebase pipes and inhaling slow and deep... never seemed as strong
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Vitalux
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Re: The Ultimate DMT Pipe - "The Machine" [Re: psilocybonautX]
#16601196 - 07/27/12 05:39 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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This pipe is excellent and has greatly improved life.
I made a slight improvement by drilling a 1/2 inch hole and adding a 1/2 inch clear flex hose as a mouth piece.
I found that with the hole in the bottom of the pipe, and folks having to put their lips on the bottle, chances are that spit and goober was bound to fall down the pipe.
Plus it was difficult to watch the flame position when trying to take a hit of the machine by oneself.
With the hose, it makes the unit more user friendly and cleaner.
Note when drilling the hole I just used a spade type glass drill bit and drilled the hole in the bottle by first filling the sink with cool water and holding the bottle under the water to lubricate while drilling the hole.
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Re: The Ultimate DMT Pipe - "The Machine" [Re: Vitalux]
#16601722 - 07/27/12 07:16 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Jeez. That's just ridiculously and unnecessarily huge.
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Re: The Ultimate DMT Pipe - "The Machine" [Re: Nature Boy]
#16617279 - 07/30/12 03:43 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hmmm well.....at least I did not make it too small.
You know.......life is kind of weird...
It doesn't matter what you do,....there will always be someone to complain.
Take the weather for example... ..It doesn't matter what kind of a day it is outside, there will always be some miserable fucking bastard that will complain about it
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Re: The Ultimate DMT Pipe - "The Machine" [Re: Vitalux]
#16617660 - 07/30/12 04:51 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Le Machine, which is the quintessential DMT vaporizing ghetto gizmo uses a 50ml-ish bottle - and with good reason. The product vaporized isn't dispersed into a huge volume rendering it utterly ineffectual and therefore wasteful, if not downright useless.
Not that I don't LIKE what you did as an enterprise, its just that it is completely self-defeating for use with DMT, which only requires you to vaporize somewhere around 30 mg. Therefore, your device is about as poor a design as one could possibly imagine, unless of course you were to use a GALLON bottle.
Small = smart and effective. Huge = lossy and probably useless.
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Edited by Nature Boy (07/31/12 04:13 AM)
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Re: The Ultimate DMT Pipe - "The Machine" [Re: Nature Boy]
#16618403 - 07/30/12 07:04 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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i'd just like to point out that i used a bacardi 750ml bottle, and i found that breathing in slowly and carefully allowed me to load the chamber without inhaling, exhaling plain air, and then hitting super fucking quick and hard such that i was overwhelmed by the dose, and so far it has been the only time i have "broken through" to that degree
using smaller crack pipe, and an even more intricate small glass pipe, was not as effective
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Re: The Ultimate DMT Pipe - "The Machine" [Re: psilocybonautX]
#16620966 - 07/31/12 08:04 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Here's my version of the Machine.
Just got to test it out yesterday, my first time using DMT. I didnt have the breakthrough but wasn't really trying to since it was my first. But I'd say it worked very well! The chamber is big enough to let me pre-fill it, but not so big I can't take the whole thing at once. Used it upside-down just as recommended in the OP, with the addition of a metal screen between the steel wool and the crystals. Wasn't anywhere near as foul tasting as I'd imagined from all the hype. More testing is definitely required!
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