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 The Centre
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 In a bad trip...
#10987081 - 09/02/09 01:49 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Is it just really hectic fright and shit, or is is it like endless hell that never goes away and doesn't stop and totally is worse than comprehensible or what here.
Also, does a really bad trip (high dose.) last the whole trip, the majority, or is it normally only for a few minutes or something?
And how easy is it to get out of it through singing and chanting?
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if you are having a bad spot during a trip, just try and go somewhere else or do something that will allow the energy to flow more positively. bad trips can teach you more than good ones. and no its not like endless fright and hell, but yes there can be some terrifying realizations while tripping.
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AlexP
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Re: In a bad trip... [Re: subject]
#10987472 - 09/02/09 02:53 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've never had a bad trip. If I start having unpleasant thoughts I just think... here comes the spooky man trying to spook me. Changing a CD can make all the difference. Just break the thought pattern.
Meditation - clean mind, stop all thinking - is also great, but takes practice.
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Shad0w
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Re: In a bad trip... [Re: AlexP]
#10987599 - 09/02/09 03:14 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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AlexP said:
I've never had a bad trip. If I start having unpleasant thoughts I just think... here comes the spooky man trying to spook me. Changing a CD can make all the difference. Just break the thought pattern.
Meditation - clean mind, stop all thinking - is also great, but takes practice.
I have had "bad" trips, and this is EXCELLENT advice.
Though, I dont practice meditation as much as I should, EVEN just -slowing- your thoughts down and relaxing your body FEELS EXCELLENT and does wonders for your mental state in ANY situation, but is REALLY helpful on psychedelics.
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Awebig
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Psychedelics have the power to change your existance forever.
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SkAk
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Re: In a bad trip... [Re: Awebig]
#10987969 - 09/02/09 04:09 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Eliminate all thought from yourself, enjoy your reality. No matter how real the scariness around you seems, it's still all in your head.
From what I've seen, bad trips happen to people that are first-timers and/or pre-anxious. Don't take a psychadelic if you are already having a bad day (new users).
Generally, dosage affects trip enjoyability. The higher the dose the lesser the chance of a bad trip. If you experience ego death, there isn't a you to be experiencing a bad trip. This rule is relative to the intensity you can handle, if you're fragile as a human then the stability of your trip will also be fragile.
Peace, Love. SkAk.
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fivepointer
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Quote:
The Centre said:
Is it just really hectic fright and shit, or is is it like endless hell that never goes away and doesn't stop and totally is worse than comprehensible or what here.
Also, does a really bad trip (high dose.) last the whole trip, the majority, or is it normally only for a few minutes or something?
And how easy is it to get out of it through singing and chanting?
My experience with high dose bad trips is that the bad part may last several hours (with shrooms), which may feel like months. One minute is a looonngg time. The ability to think in English is removed. You can not will your way out of it. Thought loops are inescapable and not even in English! You are totally off the reservation, fruit loops, and bonkers.
When I read about posters who say you can think your way out of it obviously have never had a really high dose.
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housecat
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I've had very few shroom trips. Two of these trips started badly and ended well, but I believe the trip can go any direction. My first trip was FUCKING awesome but ended very badly 
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Re: In a bad trip... [Re: housecat]
#10988673 - 09/02/09 06:15 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Bad trips seem more annoying than anything.. I've never been scared, or terrified, I've never had any depressing emotions come up either, nor have I suffered one of those paranoia filled trips. The worst I've had are annoying thought loops pop up about stupid things that bother me, I've also been physically overwhelmed by the body high and have had things just get so intense that it's hard to handle, sense wise. Bad trips are different for everyone, I guess.
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Re: In a bad trip... [Re: LeperFace]
#10988772 - 09/02/09 06:37 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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"endless hell that never goes away and doesn't stop and totally is worse than comprehensible"
SET AND SETTING I feel is the main decider on whether or not you have a good or bad trip. Stay away from people unless you know you can trust them and do your substance in the most safe feeling place available to you. Also try to stay away from alcohol and weirdos lol
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Re: In a bad trip... [Re: Enpo]
#10988949 - 09/02/09 07:16 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Bad trips range from uncomfortable to absolute hellish agony. Your mind can convince itself that any number of an infinite array of circumstances are true.
But you know, until you've experienced those miserable depths, you might not realize how amazing your every day life is. There's no reason to fear it. In fact, fearing it is probably the most common cause of it.
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Awebig
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Re: In a bad trip... [Re: Awebig]
#10989756 - 09/02/09 09:56 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
KittyFriend420 said:
Psychedelics have the power to change your existance forever.
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showme
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Re: In a bad trip... [Re: Awebig]
#10990402 - 09/02/09 11:53 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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KittyFriend420 said:
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KittyFriend420 said:
Psychedelics have the power to change your existance forever.
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housecat
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Re: In a bad trip... [Re: showme]
#11071342 - 09/16/09 03:33 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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showme said:
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KittyFriend420 said:
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KittyFriend420 said:
Psychedelics have the power to change your existance forever.
I don't find this quote encouraging.. I loved myself before I did any drugs, and I loved myself after I'd smoked pot for 2 years, and I hated who I'd become after I did shrooms. However I'm sure that there are infinite treasures to plunder. I'm sure I'd be much better off if I'd only left it at my first trip (all 3 trips were in a week, which is a big no-no) Not to say that I'm radically fucked up, just I feel like I'm socially retarded or something. I'm capable of talking to people, infact I'm still good at talking to people I don't know but at one point just before shrooms I was great with girls and now the only way I can possess that same power with woman is after smoking some pot.. It sucks.
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Shad0w
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Re: In a bad trip... [Re: housecat]
#11071388 - 09/16/09 03:40 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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housecat said:
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showme said:
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KittyFriend420 said:
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KittyFriend420 said:
Psychedelics have the power to change your existance forever.
I don't find this quote encouraging.. I loved myself before I did any drugs, and I loved myself after I'd smoked pot for 2 years, and I hated who I'd become after I did shrooms. However I'm sure that there are infinite treasures to plunder. I'm sure I'd be much better off if I'd only left it at my first trip (all 3 trips were in a week, which is a big no-no) Not to say that I'm radically fucked up, just I feel like I'm socially retarded or something. I'm capable of talking to people, infact I'm still good at talking to people I don't know but at one point just before shrooms I was great with girls and now the only way I can possess that same power with woman is after smoking some pot.. It sucks.
Nice ressurect....
Kinda funny though.
So what do you think changed?
I mean, what about your self/personality has changed in a way that has caused you to feel socially inept?
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Re: In a bad trip... [Re: Shad0w]
#11071483 - 09/16/09 03:57 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Listen to fivepointer. A true high dose will do all those things. It is more like a journey.
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modsquad09
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Quote:
fivepointer said:
Quote:
The Centre said:
My experience with high dose bad trips is that the bad part may last several hours (with shrooms), which may feel like months. One minute is a looonngg time. The ability to think in English is removed. You can not will your way out of it. Thought loops are inescapable and not even in English! You are totally off the reservation, fruit loops, and bonkers.
When I read about posters who say you can think your way out of it obviously have never had a really high dose.
its all right there, sometimes you cant.. higher doses, even low will sweep you off your feet, you wont even have time to think a bad thought, this is past ego death, and just feeling heaven or hell or both...
u take a gamble, be careful and remember you dont always get the trip you want, they love to throwe curve balls at you when u least expect
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Re: In a bad trip... [Re: housecat]
#11071563 - 09/16/09 04:08 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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housecat said:
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showme said:
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KittyFriend420 said:
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KittyFriend420 said:
Psychedelics have the power to change your existance forever.
I don't find this quote encouraging.. I loved myself before I did any drugs, and I loved myself after I'd smoked pot for 2 years, and I hated who I'd become after I did shrooms. However I'm sure that there are infinite treasures to plunder. I'm sure I'd be much better off if I'd only left it at my first trip (all 3 trips were in a week, which is a big no-no) Not to say that I'm radically fucked up, just I feel like I'm socially retarded or something. I'm capable of talking to people, infact I'm still good at talking to people I don't know but at one point just before shrooms I was great with girls and now the only way I can possess that same power with woman is after smoking some pot.. It sucks.
sounds like you slowly lost your confidence.. well shrooms show you that being socially sane its really sane lol
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HuMe35
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So true. Luckily, no matter how rough the ride gets, I always landed in heaven. I dont know whats considered a high dose but one time in my life I was searching for something. Lets say that I woke up 6-8 hours later. I know those who can relate. I always considered myself to always be in "control" of my trips. One day, 12g of R44 rocked me. And I lost "control". It was awesome.
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OutThisLife
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Re: In a bad trip... [Re: HuMe35]
#11071630 - 09/16/09 04:15 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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LSD if I end up going into a bad spot it's a thought loop that is pretty easy to get out of.
Mushrooms if I end up going into a bad spot it's just a bad feeling, seemingly uncontrollable but very easily controllable. Just smile, and control those endorphins w/ correct breathing.
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