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OfflineHopanDubMan
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Re: In a bad trip... [Re: Awebig]
    #11071684 - 09/16/09 04:21 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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KittyFriend420 said:
Psychedelics have the power to change your existance forever.




This happens.


I have never had a very bad trip but have had some pretty deep realizations that rattled me quite a bit. Its scary dude. But I feel like a different and somewhat better person than before I took that trip.


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Re: In a bad trip... [Re: HopanDubMan]
    #11071776 - 09/16/09 04:37 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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When I read about posters who say you can think your way out of it obviously have never had a really high dose.




This is not true.  I do high doses almost every time I trip.  I have taken 10gs before, and had really really intense trips.  Its all about how confident you are in yourself.  You can take control of your thoughts if you dont dwell on them.


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Re: In a bad trip... [Re: HiddenIdentity]
    #11071950 - 09/16/09 05:04 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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When I read about posters who say you can think your way out of it obviously have never had a really high dose.




This is not true.  I do high doses almost every time I trip.  I have taken 10gs before, and had really really intense trips.  Its all about how confident you are in yourself.  You can take control of your thoughts if you dont dwell on them.




a "HIGH" dose to me is just reaching level 5 on a trip, total loss of control happens when you eat the right shrooms. For me it was only 3 grams:




"Threshold Effects : (from 0.25 grams - 0.75 grams P. Cubensis)
Slight cold feeling, mild gas or nausea, nervous-feeling, slight pupil-dilation, mild visual changes including lights seeming brighter, lights having a 'starry' look, and noticing movement at the periphery of vision, giddiness, feeling more emotionally sensitive, and many other effects related to a change in neurochemistry.

Medium Effects : (0.75 grams - 2.5 grams P. Cubensis)
'Cold' feeling, gas and/or stomach discomfort, nausea, pupil-dilation, open-eye visual effects: lights gain auras, star-pattern effects, rainbowing around lighting, lights seem brighter, often 'more beautiful', notice movement in periphery, sometimes increased ability to focus, sometimes reduced ability to focus, visual field 'distracting', visual field 'entertaining', closed eye 'visuals': normal closed eye 'blobs' take on patterns, shapes, distinct forms, increased ability to visualize creatively, spontaneous detailed images, feelings of time-dilation, feelings of `coming home again' which is often more pronounced for those who have used mushrooms before, feelings of belonging and connection, increased emotional sensitivity, increased ability to focus on emotional problems or memories, chance of becoming 'caught in a loop' thinking / dwelling on a single thought or feeling (usually negative or painful), realizations about past feelings, realizations about how to live, gain a new perspective on current lifestyle and behaviors, feelings of connection with those around you, noticing things which are normally ignored or taken for granted, feelings of wonder, spirit, joy, sadness, despair, religious awakening, contentment and possibly latent psychological crises can come out..

High Dose Effects : (2.5 grams - 10 grams)
All of the Medium Effects, usually with a significantly more uncomfortable Coming Up, more pronounced nausea sometimes (rarely) resulting in vomiting, sometimes significant mental discomfort associated with feelings of fear and often times accompanying a "what have I done to myself" or "how far am I going" thought, the unpleasant Coming Up effects usually lessen with familiarity and more knowledge about the safety and character of mushroom effects. High Dose Effects are usually characterized by the closed eye visualizations being significantly more elaborate and enfolding, religious revelation, spiritual awakening, near death experiences, loss of self, talking to seemingly external, autonomous entities, extreme emotional responses, repressed memories coming to life, latent psychological crises can come to the surface, an increase in artistic sense, and intense feelings of wonder, connection, joy, fear. High Dose Effects can also include extreme time-dilation, with experiences of wall-clock minutes taking an experientially large amount of time, watching clocks or digital counters where the seconds seem to take minutes to count off. One of the most interesting effects is the feeling of awakening for the first time ever from a previous state of sleep, of liberation from what is now seen as a life-long state of bondage. Paradoxically, it is this new awareness which feels normal and natural and the previous fog which is seen to have been unreal all along. The bemushroomed seeker is convinced that, once gained, this awareness is impossible to lose, but inexplicably by the next day it is just a memory."






ive heard of people taking 10gs and get (1-2gram) level 1 effects

its all in the shroom.. it has nothing to do with control.. its an experience.. like dmt you dont control it, you can try and sing yes, but sometimes your voice is too weak.

why do some people get shown clowns and others never see them on dmt?

everyone is different


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Re: In a bad trip... [Re: modsquad09]
    #11071955 - 09/16/09 05:05 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

idk its hard to get a NDE/OOBE, but dosing high is the best way to start


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Re: In a bad trip... [Re: HiddenIdentity]
    #11071961 - 09/16/09 05:06 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I agree with the others when they say that a bad trip is nothing to be afraid of when you go in a trip with the right state of mind. Even though it might scare the living hell out of you, it is controllable, keep that in mind.


BUT!!!!!

At the same time, I also know that sometimes it takes nothing to make you go insane, litteraly. That deep fear that makes you doubt about your very own existance might come completely out of where, and it might hit you like a brick in the face.

I am not saying this to try and scare you or anything like that. I just want you to know what can happen, the possibilities of a bad trip right. That way, the only true solution is to learn to let go. It's hard to teach, but you've got to give yourself to the drug. Let it do whatever it wants, you're just a witness of your own self.

Once you learn how to let go, most trips will be amazing, and you will see your bad trips from a very different angle. Yes they will scare you, but somehow, you will appreciate what they do to you.

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Re: In a bad trip... [Re: ManyAk]
    #11072111 - 09/16/09 05:38 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

My first trip started off great and gradually turned bad as I had this one significant realization.  When I started tripping, I felt that I possessed this ability to look at any situation and see it completely objectively with no subjective (ie:my emotions/feelings) interference, I was ecstatic that I had this ability at first, but this being my first trip, I was scared that I would not ever revert back to my old subjectively viewed self, as seeing things all through an objective landscape can be quite gloomy.  I almost started crying getting myself worked up about this dilemma, but as I gradually came down I felt a lot better.  It was horrifying trip but scary nonetheless.


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