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 Re: Are these weilii? found 9-2-09 [Re: Olympus Mons]
#11077457 - 09/17/09 02:11 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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i've just been finding caramel colored beauties. they look so mind expandingly delicious
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 northgahunt
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Re: Are these weilii? found 9-2-09 [Re: Olympus Mons]
#11078960 - 09/17/09 05:55 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Olympus Mons said:
it was so weird to see them growing out of the mud. the rain has been pretty serious. the next few days are going to be interesting.
First of all great find and thanks for adding it to the post!
Have a couple quick questions.
1. Is this a patch you have been to prior?
2. If so were they growing in the wide open like this?
The reason I ask is today I checked one of my large patches and found the exact situation. It has been raining on and off for 3 days now, and was drizzling when I went out to see if anything had sprouted.
I figure this is the third day of rain and the only ones I found were in the open areas of the brush(almost exactly like your pics). These were very healthy fruits just like what you found. When I looked under the brush or cover there were no signs of new fruits, just older rotted ones.
My theory of the woodland weilii based on a single patch is this:
1. Fruit in the open areas first, about two to three days after rain.
2. Then they will start to grow under the cover and brush...I am guessing about 4-5 days after rain.
3. The longer window after the rain the thicker the coverage needed, were the soil is still moist. Not sure what this window frame could be?
Basically if you hit the same patch in the next day or two, take a look in the covered areas and see if you find anything. Let us know the results. My guess is the moisture content of the soil will determine where in the patch they are growing.
It obviously stays moist longer under brush and cover than in the open.
When I found that first huge patch I noticed the weilii in the open were the maturest and some already decayed, the ones under the brush and debris had fresh sprouts and healthy matured ones galore. Very little rot was noticed.
Hopefully I am not to deep into this theory. Again, I appreciate the info and hopefully we can solve the woodland weilii myths so everyone can have a better chance finding these beauties.
Edited by northgahunt (09/17/09 06:01 PM)
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Re: Are these weilii? found 9-2-09 [Re: northgahunt]
#11079049 - 09/17/09 06:09 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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damn everybody else who can find em gets 100x more than me. its because there are no pine needles where mine grow. or pine trees even. I think thats why.
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Re: Are these weilii? found 9-2-09 [Re: northgahunt]
#11079055 - 09/17/09 06:11 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes i'd been there before, and no they were not growing out in the middle of everything like that. There was a different part of the habitat and they were growing closer to the brush. These were growing straight out of the dirt. This place is interesting b/c theres a ton of run off. so depending on the level of moisture i assume they stick closer to the brush, and when ever there's a good downpour they can grow wherever. I think when i go back theyre going to be everywhere and not just in one place or the other. I honestly dont know what to tell anyone other than just get out there. Ive was looking for about 5 years before i got my first find, and it ended up being in a place that i'd been to before. weather, habitat, and timing are all so essential. Plus im pretty sure these mushrooms are intelligent.
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Re: Are these weilii? found 9-2-09 [Re: phishhead]
#11079059 - 09/17/09 06:11 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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phishhead said:
N.GA I had a few questions,
the areas you are finding them in, what are you looking for from the car? huge areas of downed pines? or small areas?
I know once i first started finding the ones in the pine straw i always just kinda knew what to look for after that, and I'm sure its the same for you now that you know exactly what you are looking for. Id love to find a spot like that if just for the purpose of photography but just wondered how large these infected areas are? Also how far back are you walking? Id assume they grow like that all around here you just have to be looking in the right spot. Tips or more habitat pics of just what the area looks like would be cool. nice finds man that's pretty awsome.
Out of the three prime areas I found, two are pretty large and one was maybe a 50ft circumference. In all three cases they all seemed to grow relatively close. I haven't seen a benefit over the larger areas though.
I will get more habittat shots in the next two days. If you look at the pics the Olympus and I posted you can see the similarity's. I can my areas have dead but still standing pines, several fallen pines, and the ground is either mud, pine bark and a few baby pines.
Around the fallen pines have been best for me, especially where they have embedded themselves in the soil and overgrowth has started to cover the trunk and branches. I hope this helps.
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northgahunt
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weiliiinmyyard said:
damn everybody else who can find em gets 100x more than me. its because there are no pine needles where mine grow. or pine trees even. I think thats why.
Are you finding then in open fields? I have never found one in grass as of yet.
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Re: Are these weilii? found 9-2-09 [Re: northgahunt]
#11079196 - 09/17/09 06:29 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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no its not a field..exactly. but none of those trees are any kind of pine in fact the closest one is far away across a creek
and heres my thread. read carefully only the first set of pictures are weilii
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11077200
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Edited by weiliiinmyyard (09/17/09 06:31 PM)
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northgahunt
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weiliiinmyyard said:
no its not a field..exactly. but none of those trees are any kind of pine in fact the closest one is far away across a creek
and heres my thread. read carefully only the first set of pictures are weilii
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11077200
Thats a really cool area, looks a lot healthier than the ares I go to. I bet there are lots of deer around those parts.
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Re: Are these weilii? found 9-2-09 [Re: northgahunt]
#11079401 - 09/17/09 06:52 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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me and the deer are friends. they dont even run from me. you think im kidding, but thats okay.
mushrooms take all the dead stuff and decompose it and do something good with it im pretty sure. mad respect. maybe thats why my "healthier" area yeilds way less
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Edited by weiliiinmyyard (09/17/09 06:54 PM)
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Re: Are these weilii? found 9-2-09 [Re: northgahunt]
#11079716 - 09/17/09 07:33 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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northgahunt said:
It obviously stays moist longer under brush and cover than in the open.
Maybe they also need a certain quantity of sunlight to get jump started? Do the ones under cover lean towards light?
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German Kahuna said:
No worries, I am booking a ticket right now. Will you pick me up at the airport? You'll recognize me. I'll be the guy with the 17 empty baskets and backpacks.
Funny! There will be a line of us with baskets and backbacks! haha
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Re: Are these weilii? found 9-2-09 [Re: masspan]
#11081886 - 09/18/09 04:17 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I remember go'in to "dead shows" with the jar of peanut butter and crushed bread.Haha
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Re: Are these weilii? found 9-2-09 [Re: madhatter62]
#11081888 - 09/18/09 04:17 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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madhatter62 said:
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German Kahuna said:
No worries, I am booking a ticket right now. Will you pick me up at the airport? You'll recognize me. I'll be the guy with the 17 empty baskets and backpacks.
Funny! There will be a line of us with baskets and backbacks! haha
Backbacks?
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Re: Are these weilii? found 9-2-09 [Re: Ieponumos]
#11081896 - 09/18/09 04:24 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think youre about to make a lot of friends in the south if you keep this up.
Yes, especially with the police. If they find out that you have any mushrooms they will break down your door, especially in Georgia. When the judge sees how many you have he will send you to prison for many years. Be extremely careful, do not sell any or give any away while you have that kind of weight around.
Please take lots of habitat shots, I would like to see many pictures of the clusters.
Is this a natural area or was it disturbed by humans?
That is so sad they are so hard on us for something that grows wild!! Just the thought that they would bust your door in with GUNS OUT!!! Crazy, just simpily crazy.When ya got freaked out meth heads bust'in doors of old people blablabla. You all know this unjust system! waste money on prisons for this , pick'in a mushroom. Well, in this case a "FEW" . Be careful all!
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Re: Are these weilii? found 9-2-09 [Re: whoever]
#11081907 - 09/18/09 04:27 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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whoever said:
This is so the ultimate geocaching game, you get a map but no coordinates, all complete with fellow travelers and woodland spirits and bad guys.
so wholesome.
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I learned today that even when you'd least suspect it, you may be being watched...
The snort'in noise deer make at ya is crazy ain't it! They were'nt to afraid of ya
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These have all been returned to their original orgin in hopes to spread more spores. There were to many insects and I really had no use for them, It was exciting knowing that they do exist though.
Wise decision. I was worried that you would give them to someone, or eat too many and freak out, then be charged as a large drug dealer with a long mandatory minimum prison sentence.
Most drugs are very light, but wet mushrooms are very heavy, meaning that if you get caught with them the punishment would be very harsh, compared to the punishment for your average coke dealer.
You will probably get a lot of PM's, you shouldn't take anyone to the patch or tell them where it is. Its best to tell people just the habitat so they can find their own similar patches.
If it was me, I would bring a large cooking pot and a couple gallons of water, and make an extremely concentrated spore solution. Put handfuls of mature mushrooms in the water, wring them around for awhile, then take the bits out and put more mushrooms in. Repeat until it is so dark purple that you can't even see through it for a millimeter. Then pour that water on fresh substrate and in new locations. Or just let nature do that, seems to be working just fine as is. These mushrooms are almost identical to Psilocybe villarrealiae / Psilocybe caerulescens. These types of mushrooms turn dead wood back into usable soil and are an important part of the ecosystem.
Best advise yet!! Your best day could turn into a nitemare FAST!!! Personally, we've all seen your beutiful find. should just let this thread go away now.
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This is interesting, with large qty's would you have to keep adding more water due to evaporation?
Most of the water is lost by being soaked up by the thousands of mushrooms you are putting in. But they are already wet so if you squeeze them well its not very much.
1) Put hundreds of clusters of mature P. weilii into a cooking pot full of water, wringing them out for a couple minutes to get all the spores off of them.
2) When you are done the water will be so purple that you can barely see through it. I spent about a half hour putting mushrooms in, washing the spores off, wringing the water out of the bits, throwing the mashed mushrooms at new wood and putting in fresh clusters of mushrooms.
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Could you use a back pack sprayer to apply and how much should be applied?
That is exactly what happened but I don't have pictures of that part. The water was filtered through a few layers of window-screen type mesh so it didn't clog the sprayer, then sprayed around disturbed habitats that had lots of dead and buried wood. Also the straight spore solution was poured on piles of woody debris and sawdust. If you have a sawmill or any place that has a whole lot of sawdust in your area, put the spores there.
Since the spore solution I made was extremely strong, we diluted it with about ten parts water before spraying. Probably could have been diluted more and remained effective, it was still deep purple after dilution. Its important to use the spore solution within a day or 2 so bacteria doesn't eat the spores and make it smell bad.
Another way is to pick a big box of old mushrooms and then throw them at anything resembling dead wood / decent Psilocybe habitat.
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Does anyone know the range of Weilii?
They like this red soil to. But the only liv'in thing I guess that does like this red clay type stuff. Am I wrong?
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World Spirit said:
Spread the spores!!!!!
"Johnie spore spreader"
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Re: Are these weilii? found 9-2-09 [Re: eatapeach]
#11082763 - 09/18/09 10:32 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Here are a few pics of both look alike weilii and weilii that were spotted today.
All of these were found amongst one of the weilii patches as described in this post. They were in 10' of each other.
Ground is still very wet and is holding water in several areas.
1. Weilii growing in open areas of pine bark and pine debris.
 
2. This one really doesn't look like any weilii I have found, its gills are almost completely white while the stipes are dark golden brown. It defiantly has that weilii smell to it, just not positive if it is.
The spore print still is in progress, there is blue bruising started on the gills.
  
3. Not weilii but resembles the weilii from an overview, but has no distinct odor. Spore print in progress.
 
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