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Bolete: Brick cap color, yellow pores, grub-eaten
    #10981523 - 09/01/09 06:11 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I finally found something after three days of searching after the rains!

Habitat: Under an oak on a lawn in central NJ USA
Gills: Pores, yellow to gold (EDIt: perhaps olive?)
Stem: 3-10cm long, 1-5cm thick, bulbous/broadening at base, solid, older specimens with worm tunnels.
Cap: 3-15cm wide, brick red, smooth, convex; typical bolete shape.
Spore print color: IP
Bruising: Pores instantly bruising blue. Flesh bruising slowly when cut. No bruising on cap.
Nibble test: nutty, flavorful & delicious! Like B. edulis. If I didn't know better I woulda wolfed a few of these down raw.
Other information:
1. The bugs like this one! Grubs, little white worms, and other tiny critters were munching away on these.
2. (pls. read the quote in my signature before you flame me about eating unidentified mushrooms) I fried up a couple of slices in olive oil, and they were really meaty and flavorful.




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Re: Bolete: Brick cap color, yellow pores, grub-eaten [Re: tangoking]
    #10981873 - 09/01/09 07:09 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Some macro shots of these would help. I can't see if the top of the stems are yellow, or much about the stem texture. Why not Boletus bicolor?

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(pls. read the quote in my signature before you flame me about eating unidentified mushrooms) I fried up a couple of slices in olive oil, and they were really meaty and flavorful.




Eating an unidentified blue staining bolete is risking puking, but if you are ok with that then no problem.

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Re: Bolete: Brick cap color, yellow pores, grub-eaten [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #10982054 - 09/01/09 07:32 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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Alan Rockefeller said:
1. Some macro shots of these would help. I can't see if the top of the stems are yellow, or much about the stem texture
2. Why not Boletus bicolor
3. Eating an unidentified blue staining bolete is risking puking, but if you are ok with that then no problem.




1. Pics following
2. They don't look like bicolors to me; they're really stocky and meaty.
3. I've never had a problem following this guideline; regardless, I am OK with puking. No pain, no gain! It happens occasionally, but I go by the edibility test process that my college professor taught me. I eat a couple slices, then a whole cap, then a whole mushroom, then feast. All cooked thoroughly, and with significant time between ingestions.

EDIT: I'm honestly wondering if this isn't some var of B. edulis, based on the cap color/texture, and how nutty and delicious these things are. They taste just like the B. edulis that I found earlier in the summer.

I put them in the oven at 200 degrees for ten minutes to kill the bugs, and the pore surfaces all turned olive.










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Re: Bolete: Brick cap color, yellow pores, grub-eaten [Re: tangoking]
    #10982581 - 09/01/09 08:48 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

A really close macro shot of the stem would help, I still can't see if its reticulate.  One way to do that is to set the camera to manual focus, set the focus to the closest possible, then put the camera right up to the stem until it is in focus.

Since the stem is red and the pores bruise blue, I wouldn't call it close to B. edulis.  Probably closer to the butter boletes.

The thickness of the stem does seem to rule out B. bicolor.  Have you tried the mushroomexpert.com keys?

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Re: Bolete: Brick cap color, yellow pores, grub-eaten [Re: tangoking]
    #10982614 - 09/01/09 08:53 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

looks like typical Boletus bicoloroides to me.

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Re: Bolete: Brick cap color, yellow pores, grub-eaten [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #10982629 - 09/01/09 08:55 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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Alan Rockefeller said:
A really close macro shot of the stem would help, I still can't see if its reticulate.  One way to do that is to set the camera to manual focus, set the focus to the closest possible, then put the camera right up to the stem until it is in focus.

Since the stem is red and the pores bruise blue, I wouldn't call it close to B. edulis.  Probably closer to the butter boletes.

The thickness of the stem does seem to rule out B. bicolor.  Have you tried the mushroomexpert.com keys?



I already oven-blanched them to kill the bugs, so I can't get any more shots tonight. I did leave a few behind at the site, so I can grab a couple more tomorrow if it will help.

There was definitely no obvious reticulation. If there was any, one would need a hand-lens to see it.

I did try the mushromexpert keys, but got lost here after "Mature Cap Larger"
http://www.mushroomexpert.com/boletus_05.html

One thing I can say: they're choice edibles. It's been almost three hours since I ate one on an Italian sausage sandwich, with alcohol (specifically, a large glass of port wine and a double-shot of Jameson's) and the only ill effects are a few loud belches.

I can post the high-res version of the fourth shot:


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Re: Bolete: Brick cap color, yellow pores, grub-eaten [Re: You can all etibem]
    #10982696 - 09/01/09 09:03 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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looks like typical Boletus bicoloroides to me.




Mushroomexpert.com lists that species as having a stem 1 - 2 cm thick, and he says these are up to 5 cm thick.  Other than that it looks like that species.

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Re: Bolete: Brick cap color, yellow pores, grub-eaten [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #10983053 - 09/01/09 09:56 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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Alan Rockefeller said:
Quote:

looks like typical Boletus bicoloroides to me.




Mushroomexpert.com lists that species as having a stem 1 - 2 cm thick, and he says these are up to 5 cm thick.  Other than that it looks like that species.



They just don't taste like bicolors. They're just too meaty. My intuition is telling me that bicolor is wrong.


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Re: Bolete: Brick cap color, yellow pores, grub-eaten [Re: You can all etibem]
    #10984825 - 09/02/09 07:05 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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You can all etibem said:
looks like typical Boletus bicoloroides to me.



On second thought I think you're right.

Any thoughts on which variation of bicolor?


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