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#10980442 - 09/01/09 02:38 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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"Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) (Mush Cult)
I just wanted a lil more exposure to this thread since its an advanced mycology topic attempt, that and more experienced shroomerites lurk around here.
I hope Im not overstepping any boundaries.
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Unforseen difficulties aside, I'm guessing
Liberty Cap mushrooms will fruit under fairly
consistent environmental parameters.
Once these parameters are identified, it becomes a
straightfoward task of implementing technology, or
harnessing natural conditions to provide them.
Perhaps a list is in order detailing what aspects
of their cultivation have yet to be identified.
Substrate: Grass Seed, Organic Compost?
Fruiting Temp: 45-50deg F??
Incubation Temp: 65deg F?
Air Exchange: Constant?
Fruiting Humidity: 80%+ ??
These are my best guesses... all those who are
willing to share feel free to provide.
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 Re: pharoe vitamins [Re: bioBot]
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perfect questions, Im a lil overwhelmed, thats going to be very helpful.
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Re: pharoe vitamins [Re: bioBot]
#11026687 - 09/09/09 10:10 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bio, you even look at the link in the first post, its the original thread. you should give it a skim over so you dont repost stuff thats been posted. thanks for the info though.
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Re: pharoe vitamins [Re: Razoom]
#11153069 - 09/29/09 07:19 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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wish i could participate but i gave away my only lib print.
oh well just gonna have to pay sporeworks a visit.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11154509 - 09/29/09 11:08 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm in. I haven't grown liberty caps in ages. I also want to try this print that was supposed to be P. quebecensis but produced a bluing semilanceata-like mushroom with brownish spores. I'm still not sure what it is and I need more specimens anyway.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Workman]
#11154546 - 09/29/09 11:13 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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ive done out door patches with them and one successful indoor.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Mushr00m_Man]
#11154750 - 09/29/09 11:47 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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can you post/link what tek(s) you used for indoor cultivation? or whatever info you can share on spawning and fruiting.?. thanx.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11155141 - 09/30/09 01:23 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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not teks i did my own thing using a few different techniques from shit i picked up from growing for a while
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Mushr00m_Man]
#11155229 - 09/30/09 02:31 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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well can I ask what your substrate was for your spawn run and fruiting?
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11197999 - 10/06/09 10:57 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here are my thoughts thus far. I feel to increase success is to try and recreate libs original climate and I picked Denmark
I am still in the design works on my 'bio-box' to recreate the climate of Denmark in August (where and when libs fruit).
So according to what I found on Denmark's climate on avg is 52-62 degrees 74% humidity with only 4 hours of full sunlight, through the fruiting months.
So far for the cool air I am thinking of having a chamber above the pan(where the myc will be) with ice packs in it will holes drilled in the shelf it sits on to allow the cool air to fall into the growing area. I am going to buy a wine cooler and have it set at 55 degrees, my bio box.
for the avg humidity being 74%, I am thinking a small tub of water with an air pump blowing bubbles inside the cooler(would that work?).
Also found that libs are found growing on sedge grass.
So my thoughts were.
Do the iso (to get a stable strain) on agar and once stable create LCs. Once I get a stable LC, I was thinking of trying to knock up some jars with a sub of verm/sugar/dry sedge grass(or sedge grass seed).
Then If that actually colonizes, get a case, layer it with dried sedge grass and Hpoo, spread a ground up cake on it, then throw in some fresh sedge grass on top and spread a 2nd cake on that.
then put the case in the 'bio box'
You think that is plausible or do you think my idea SUCKS and needs more work lol.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: RyeH]
#11198212 - 10/06/09 11:44 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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can you explain the thought behind using sugar in your substrate? just a boost or what?
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11198284 - 10/07/09 12:05 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
13shrooms said:
can you explain the thought behind using sugar in your substrate? just a boost or what?
Yeah pretty much. It would be a very VERY low amount that way to avoid carmelization . But that was an up in the air idea. lol
Or inoculate it after PC
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dont fuck around.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: RyeH]
#11199917 - 10/07/09 10:20 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sugar in substrate is not a good idea. Fungi are great at breaking down substrates that other competing organisms can't. When you throw something in that everybody likes you will greatly increase your contamination rate.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: fastfred]
#11201235 - 10/07/09 02:07 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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so aside from the sugar, how does the rest sound?
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: RyeH]
#11201262 - 10/07/09 02:12 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
RyeH said:
so aside from the sugar, how does the rest sound?
Go for it. give it a try! good luck
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: RyeH]
#11208149 - 10/08/09 01:01 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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i'm interessted!
hoping for new posts soon!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: batheinthefountain]
#11351905 - 10/30/09 12:16 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im making my syringe halloween night and inoculating rye grass seed nov 1st.
the main thread in mush cult (or my sig) has several new posts.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11385229 - 11/04/09 02:52 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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syringe is made , RGS is hydrating b4 the PC now.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11388610 - 11/04/09 11:29 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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each inoculated with 4cc MS.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11388733 - 11/05/09 12:05 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sweet cant wait to see how it turns out :] good luck
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Mystery420]
#11388746 - 11/05/09 12:09 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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me either, it feels like my first cult attempt all over again. 
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Mystery420]
#11413394 - 11/08/09 06:03 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
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Sweet cant wait to see how it turns out :] good luck
This is the awesomeness.  I'll be watching ...
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Chief_Dad]
#11415825 - 11/08/09 11:33 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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oh, I never give up, I have 4 more prints on the way for many many many attemps.
If it takes me a couple years I will keep trying, this hobby is great fun for me and I have nothing but time on my side.
if Im successfull with Libs Im going to work with indoor Azures or Weilii, both interest me alot.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11432507 - 11/11/09 10:29 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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I made 3qt jars of rgs last week,
Lib 1)  we have germination and new growth!
Lib 2) nothing yet
Lib 3) nothing yet
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11432784 - 11/11/09 11:16 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
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I made 3qt jars of rgs last week,
Lib 1) we have germination and new growth!
Lib 2) nothing yet
Lib 3) nothing yet
 Nice, man. I have my eyes peeled.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Ieponumos]
#11434294 - 11/11/09 02:45 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do you have any pics of this sp. on agar?
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: badman]
#11434466 - 11/11/09 03:11 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sorry, but do I get this right: all we are looking at is mycelial growth? Ok.
I want to see them fruiting.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: badman]
#11434499 - 11/11/09 03:16 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do you have any pics of this sp. on agar?
nope, print to syringe to rgs qrt. jars.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: German Kahuna]
#11434505 - 11/11/09 03:17 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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German Kahuna said:
Sorry, but do I get this right: all we are looking at is mycelial growth? Ok.
I want to see them fruiting.
POOF!, damn my magic wand of time travel just broke, looks like you got to wait like the rest of us. 
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11434685 - 11/11/09 03:42 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't know if any of you have seen this, I have been following both threads and thought you guys could use some of the Captain's expertise!
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11419690/page/1
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: inski]
#11434768 - 11/11/09 03:52 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeh i saw that, quality.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: inski]
#11439901 - 11/12/09 10:20 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
inski said:
I don't know if any of you have seen this, I have been following both threads and thought you guys could use some of the Captain's expertise!
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11419690/page/1
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11440006 - 11/12/09 10:37 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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At me was so once. But right at the end, an orange and pink mould. As it was on the rests of a grass I has decided to not touch it, and messages of supervision. I have exposed it on a balcony approximately 15 degrees and have made some water baths. I waited before occurrence of snow. And, not any fruit. Do still more some copies. Not to me you to learn. This action Artimisia, seems to it I too has got dependence 
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Razoom]
#11481331 - 11/18/09 06:59 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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 11-18-09 COLONIZATION UPDATE
  
All 3 jars have growth in them LIB #1 is going great the others are just starting to take off. 
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11530130 - 11/26/09 12:15 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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WEEKLY UPDATE PICS!
I just took a pic of Lib jar 1 cuz its the most colonized
 
and no I still havent gotten a new cam yet.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11532277 - 11/26/09 12:41 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Razoom]
#11569430 - 12/02/09 10:48 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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WEEKLY PIC UPDATE
Lib 1)
Lib 2)
Lib 3)
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11770538 - 01/05/10 02:07 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Looking good man!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Mystery420]
#11776875 - 01/06/10 12:56 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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that last update was 34 days ago, how did it turn out 13shrooms ?
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: ohmatic]
#11777022 - 01/06/10 01:14 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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I put the 3 jars in the fridge till I have all my supplies for fruiting. the holidays set me back on everything.
sorry for the delay, thanx for bearing with me on this. 
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11826021 - 01/13/10 10:16 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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WOW, Can't wait to see how this turns out. Liberty cap is a very cool looking mushie.
If you can get good genetics for growing indoor, I would be more than happy to trade a print for a print. Thanks.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Jordan2Dope]
#11832516 - 01/14/10 10:25 PM (2 years, 30 days ago) |
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#11834401 - 01/15/10 10:05 AM (2 years, 30 days ago) |
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Im workn on it, I ran out of trays and I have no casing material at the moment.
I should have something going by next weekend when I get some money in my pocket for supplies again.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11834811 - 01/15/10 11:25 AM (2 years, 30 days ago) |
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I have two LC's going; one honey and one clear corn syrup, two PDA plates, two WBS and two RGS jars.
So far the LC's are in the lead with the honey winning.
The agar plates are slow going. Out of eight inoculation points, only three are showing signs of growth with two on the one and one on the other.
None of the jars are showing any signs of life.
Hopefully these move along so I can take advantage of the cold weather.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#11835024 - 01/15/10 12:00 PM (2 years, 30 days ago) |
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yeah I just did the 3 jars all MS inoculation and they took their time but I got full colonization, now if I could just spawn them. 
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11835181 - 01/15/10 12:24 PM (2 years, 30 days ago) |
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I did MS as well but the spores in the syringes already had mycelium growing http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11770454#11770454 so now I'm wondering if I injected only water.
Probably the reason only three spots on the plates are showing signs of growth.
The LC's received a 3ml syringe each.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#11880352 - 01/22/10 03:57 PM (2 years, 23 days ago) |
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Here's a little update:
Day 17 and the CCS LC has some mycelium but not even close to the amount the Honey LC has. I'm really starting to like the looks of the Honey LC.
 
The grain jars colonizing at 15C/59F are very slow after 14 days, but still progressing with the WBS slightly ahead of the RGS.
 
The grain jars in the incubator at 25C/77F (yeah yeah I know  ) aren't moving at all. I'm not sure if it's the incubator or the fact I may have only injected water into those two jars as I stated before. Probably the later as the PDA dishes are doing fine in the incubator.
The syringes used had sat in an unheated room for two to three months prior to this, during which time the spores germinated so the syringes were full of mycelium clusters. It's possible I didn't get the mycelium down the needle for those two jars.
 
After 15 days the dishes in the incubator at 25C/77F are still growing slowly but are now showing growth at seven of the eight inoculation points.
 
Hopefully all goes well and the jars speed up some so I can take advantage of this cold weather and fruit these babies!
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The Story Of Russell The Texas (Cube) Bear
The human race's prospects of survival were considerably better when we were defenceless against tigers than they are today when we have become defenceless against ourselves.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: badman]
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Alright! Who framed RogerRabbit?
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#11880533 - 01/22/10 04:17 PM (2 years, 23 days ago) |
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Three man operation, the fourth man will make it official as :harhar:, hopefully.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: badman]
#11896673 - 01/25/10 05:31 AM (2 years, 20 days ago) |
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You keeping it real 13shrooms. You have my respect for doing such a task.
This is some Final Frontier shit you got going here lol
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Jordan2Dope]
#11897447 - 01/25/10 09:47 AM (2 years, 20 days ago) |
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it is slow going but Im tryin
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11935203 - 01/31/10 10:38 AM (2 years, 14 days ago) |
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well I made/prepped the rabbit manure substrate and Im cleaning out 3 trays that are no longer being used so hopefully tomorrow I can spawn
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11939612 - 01/31/10 11:36 PM (2 years, 13 days ago) |
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gl, ive had my eye on this thread im ready to see some fruit bodies!!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
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gl, ive had my eye on this thread im ready to see some fruit bodies!!
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The following are vendors I am in good standing with and pledge to all shroomery members, that they can shop with confidence at.
www.sporeworks.com for your genetics
www.mycopath.com for your equipment/raw materials
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Montock]
#11949869 - 02/02/10 05:37 PM (2 years, 12 days ago) |
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Nice, Keep up the good work.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11954365 - 02/03/10 12:30 PM (2 years, 11 days ago) |
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Thats pretty rockin man, I can't wait to see your end result.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
#12566176 - 05/15/10 05:53 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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So, what ever happened with this?
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Jordan2Dope]
#12566825 - 05/15/10 09:57 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Ill try again after my home renovations are done. dont know what anybody else has going?
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
#13196565 - 09/14/10 07:38 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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 I guess it's soon time to spawn this.
Inoculated on January 8 2010 and it's been in the fridge for months. 
Had other (real life) stuff on the go and never found the time to experiment. I'll try and make the time very soon. 
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The colonized jar of WBS is now out of the fridge and I have four buckets of different substrates soaking for 24 hours.
Bucket #1. 75% RGS
25% Manure
#2. 70% Chopped Straw
15% Manure
15% RGS
#3. 75% Grass Clippings
25% Manure
#4. 70% Grass Clippings
15% Manure
15% RGS
These are all rough measurements and I don't have the manure mixed in yet. That along with Coffee & Gypsum will be added to all the buckets after the soak.
Since I don't have much spawn, I'm going to split the jar between the four buckets which should be just enough for the four small trays while leaving enough room for the 1/4 inch casing.
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The Story Of Russell The Texas (Cube) Bear
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13201191 - 09/15/10 06:53 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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All spawned to the four trays I mentioned earlier.
I added 1/4 cup each of coffee and drywall gypsum to all four trays as well.
Now it's a waiting game...
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The Story Of Russell The Texas (Cube) Bear
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13203608 - 09/16/10 09:39 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I wish you luck...it would be nice to see them babies pin
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: hcrider]
#13203713 - 09/16/10 10:02 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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It's gonna' be hard not to peek at them. Gotta' stand strong and wait it out. 
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The Story Of Russell The Texas (Cube) Bear
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13217602 - 09/19/10 09:28 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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  Up the libs!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: FractalXplora]
#13217997 - 09/19/10 11:11 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Maybe SWIM did this years ago. Try 1/3 straw chopped to 1.5", 1/3 worm castings, and 1/3 coco coir. After it is colonized you want to take 1/4" of castings and case. Cover the castings with wheatgrass seed and moisten the casing. Once the seeds start growing and you get full jungle growth you will start to see them coming up in the grass. They did not like to come up as often without live grass. It may have to do with the symbiosis with the plant roots.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: FilamentousFungi]
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Maybe SWIM did this years ago.
SWIM? 
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13218365 - 09/19/10 12:46 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
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Maybe SWIM did this years ago.
SWIM?
It could have been SWIM (Someone Who Isn't Me).
SWIM explained
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: FilamentousFungi]
#13218384 - 09/19/10 12:49 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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nexus1946 said:
Quote:
FilamentousFungi said:
Maybe SWIM did this years ago.
SWIM?
Someone Who Isnt Me. 
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FilamentousFungi said:
Maybe SWIM did this years ago. Try 1/3 straw chopped to 1.5", 1/3 worm castings, and 1/3 coco coir. After it is colonized you want to take 1/4" of castings and case. Cover the castings with wheatgrass seed and moisten the casing. Once the seeds start growing and you get full jungle growth you will start to see them coming up in the grass. They did not like to come up as often without live grass. It may have to do with the symbiosis with the plant roots.
thats sound like a good thing there, but maybe add a lil manure in place of coir?
I know pans and other more advanced cultivation mushrooms wont grow on/with coir at all.
but if it worked for "SWIM" then maybe "as is" would be fine.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
#13219312 - 09/19/10 04:13 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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thats sound like a good thing there, but maybe add a lil manure in place of coir?
I know pans and other more advanced cultivation mushrooms wont grow on/with coir at all.
but if it worked for "SWIM" then maybe "as is" would be fine.
Don't know where you heard that but it wasn't true. Pan Cyan FL, AU, JAM, Tamps, Cambos, and Cope Cyan HI all have fruited off of coco + brf without casings. Use to same % as PFtek. None had trouble fruiting, and all made fruits that were larger than the prints taken from.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: FilamentousFungi]
#13219426 - 09/19/10 04:34 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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news on this? 
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: FilamentousFungi]
#13219642 - 09/19/10 05:20 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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FilamentousFungi said:
Quote:
13shrooms said:
thats sound like a good thing there, but maybe add a lil manure in place of coir?
I know pans and other more advanced cultivation mushrooms wont grow on/with coir at all.
but if it worked for "SWIM" then maybe "as is" would be fine.
Don't know where you heard that but it wasn't true. Pan Cyan FL, AU, JAM, Tamps, Cambos, and Cope Cyan HI all have fruited off of coco + brf without casings. Use to same % as PFtek. None had trouble fruiting, and all made fruits that were larger than the prints taken from.
ugg, I get caught up on bulk processes and always seem to over look the PF tek.
I have a 1/2 gal PF cake+coir going right now with R-44 and shooting stars cubensis both, to see if I can get subsequent rotating flushes of each substrain. 
I saw someone in the strain discussion thread say they got a flush of one strain then a flush of another strain when they inoculated with 2 diff cubensis strains.
Ill have to make an ms syringe of these libs and try a variety of pf mixes.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
#13219893 - 09/19/10 06:09 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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13shrooms said:
Quote:
FilamentousFungi said:
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13shrooms said:
thats sound like a good thing there, but maybe add a lil manure in place of coir?
I know pans and other more advanced cultivation mushrooms wont grow on/with coir at all.
but if it worked for "SWIM" then maybe "as is" would be fine.
Don't know where you heard that but it wasn't true. Pan Cyan FL, AU, JAM, Tamps, Cambos, and Cope Cyan HI all have fruited off of coco + brf without casings. Use to same % as PFtek. None had trouble fruiting, and all made fruits that were larger than the prints taken from.
ugg, I get caught up on bulk processes and always seem to over look the PF tek.
I have a 1/2 gal PF cake+coir going right now with R-44 and shooting stars cubensis both, to see if I can get subsequent rotating flushes of each substrain.
I saw someone in the strain discussion thread say they got a flush of one strain then a flush of another strain when they inoculated with 2 diff cubensis strains.
Ill have to make an ms syringe of these libs and try a variety of pf mixes.
Try 2/3-3/4 coco @ slightly below field capacity moisture with 1/3-1/4 BRF. To that you may want to add 2Tblsp yerba mate per pint of spawn. Once colonized break them up and place into 8"x 8" baking pan and let it form to shape. Then dunk and put into fruiting environment. Dunk in between flushing periods for best results.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
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13shrooms said:
I have a 1/2 gal PF cake+coir going right now with R-44 and shooting stars cubensis both, to see if I can get subsequent rotating flushes of each substrain.
I saw someone in the strain discussion thread say they got a flush of one strain then a flush of another strain when they inoculated with 2 diff cubensis strains.
Interesting idea.
Quote:
13shrooms said:
Ill have to make an ms syringe of these libs and try a variety of pf mixes.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Base Icks]
#13225257 - 09/20/10 11:52 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Inoculated a 500ml WBS jar with the CCS LC. We'll see how well it takes off.
The two trays with the grass clippings are beginning to smell bad......dont think they're gonna' last.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: The White Rabbit]
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Was suposed to get out picking today/tomorrow.
I'm fucking sick though, bad cold. Throat all swollen up and not awesome.
Just talked to a mate that went out and he said it was like a blanket. Said he couldn't even stand up for an hour cause he was just crawling around picking non stop.
FML
I wanted to ask him if I could take prints off of them, but I didnt know how to explain why?
I'll go out and get some as soon as I'm well. Might send a load to the FSRE and let them sort out the bulk of them 
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Base Icks]
#13234956 - 09/23/10 07:47 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I wanted to ask him if I could take prints off of them, but I didnt know how to explain why?
Tell him you want to to do this>
"Put a few handfuls in a tupperware with lid>shake the shit out of em>
carefully pour off the mushrooms>wash out the resulting spore/gill fragments and bottle em up to hydrate overnight>take 2L bottle on your next hunt,i decant from a 2L bottle into a 500ml bottle for ease, and sprinkle a few drops (annoint the patch LOL) after you taken your pick of the troops.You at least give back something to the patch who's spore you robbed and may please the mushroom spirits."
Be prepared to be called a $ucking hippy.
Not tried this,but it may be possible to clean up the "shake" from the "tupperware" TEK (LOL) on agar.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: FilamentousFungi]
#13235087 - 09/23/10 08:42 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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FilamentousFungi said:
Maybe SWIM did this years ago. Try 1/3 straw chopped to 1.5", 1/3 worm castings, and 1/3 coco coir. After it is colonized you want to take 1/4" of castings and case. Cover the castings with wheatgrass seed and moisten the casing. Once the seeds start growing and you get full jungle growth you will start to see them coming up in the grass. They did not like to come up as often without live grass. It may have to do with the symbiosis with the plant roots.
This is what I was thinking. Growing grass on the casing. Someone suggested mixing in poo, but what I'm imagining is sprinkling a few little nuggets of poo on top, so that they'll be on the surface amongst the grass. Maybe closer to natural conditions that way?
I've been out looking for libs to print, but conditions haven't been right. Now the weather's taking a turn for the better (worse) and I'm off on holiday for 2 weeks. ARGH!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: deucedbi9]
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
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andymc said:
Quote:
FilamentousFungi said:
Maybe SWIM did this years ago. Try 1/3 straw chopped to 1.5", 1/3 worm castings, and 1/3 coco coir. After it is colonized you want to take 1/4" of castings and case. Cover the castings with wheatgrass seed and moisten the casing. Once the seeds start growing and you get full jungle growth you will start to see them coming up in the grass. They did not like to come up as often without live grass. It may have to do with the symbiosis with the plant roots.
This is what I was thinking. Growing grass on the casing. Someone suggested mixing in poo, but what I'm imagining is sprinkling a few little nuggets of poo on top, so that they'll be on the surface amongst the grass. Maybe closer to natural conditions that way?
I've been out looking for libs to print, but conditions haven't been right. Now the weather's taking a turn for the better (worse) and I'm off on holiday for 2 weeks. ARGH!
I think that the grass had something do do with the density of fruiting w/ liberty caps indoors. I never needed the manure as the castings are a good substitute esp when added with straw and coco.
Why don't you take a wild culture and keep it going indoors? Take the stump of one of the libs and slice the outer parts off of it like a banana and cut the center up into little pieces. Put that onto cardboard that has been moistened with distilled H20 and then drained. After 1 week you will start to see growth. Once it takes onto the cardboard you can sub culture it. It is not a fan of the CB, but it will eat it when it's starving.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: FilamentousFungi]
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Yeah, was thinking that too - I've only ever found them in the grass clumps here. That's what they like, that's what you oughta give 'em. I've run the mycelium but never made them fruit, so:
Peace
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: PrimalSoup]
#13242908 - 09/24/10 09:59 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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LOL I just had a vision of you guys running through the fields with one of those things they use for cutting golf holes in the greens! PICTURE 6 HERE
Pulling earth plugs with little liberty caps on top of them! Putting them in jars and taking them home.
You could just cut off the sod and roll it up too I suppose.
Might be worth your time to get a chunk of soil analyzed that had a mushroom growing on it, nitrogen, moisture, elements, PH, composition, organic matter content.
May make your quest a little easier..
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Peterthinks]
#13287512 - 10/04/10 03:43 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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my god Peterthinks, your flow hood just gave me a hard on!
 one day............
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: FractalXplora]
#13297076 - 10/06/10 01:12 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I went picking on Monday.
Right when I got to the spot I ate shit on my bike. Then I got in the field and slipped in mud. 
Either way, I picked about 200 and tried printing about 40-50 of them. Not sure how they turned out yet. Going to take a peek at them here some time today.
  
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Base Icks]
#13297778 - 10/06/10 08:05 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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come on base icks, dont hold out on us any longer how did the prints go?
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: asm0309]
#13301483 - 10/06/10 09:28 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, I could definitely use some fresh prints as mine are very old now...but still beautiful.
Peace
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: PrimalSoup]
#13302467 - 10/07/10 04:18 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I tried to take about 40 prints,s and only one dropped. Bummer. They're not cubes thats for sure. They get maggots in they're caps and they eat the gills as soon as they mature. The foil has more maggots on it than spores. I got some chunks of gills though. They might work
It was a sunny windy day. I think that they dried out and dropped during the day. They're so little, that the oooold mature ones are the easiest to find, and I'm in the habit of only taking the bigest ones and leaving the rest to finish 
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Base Icks]
#13304813 - 10/07/10 03:27 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I went out picking a few weeks ago, managed to get 30+ prints.
What interests me is their was this one patch that had fluorescent yellowish shrooms, I am 98% sure sure they were liberty caps, so i marked one of the prints so i would know what one it was.
I don't know if it was a nutrient thing but the shrooms varied in colour a lot in that field.
Whats the best way of cultivating what I've got here? i think I've got a huge base for genetic variants which might help when condensing the species into a indoor version but the more spore samples i take from my array of prints the more likely i will introduce a contaminant or possibly a different species altogether.
I'm in the process of making a liquid culture for my garden, would that be easier to fruit? if so how do i fertilize/prepare the patch?
If i make lots of separate liquid cultures and then mix them i could reduce the damage of getting a contaminant with the prints, could i use some anti-biotic to do the same but quicker? I've got lots of left-overs from the doctor you see.
I'm very tempted to try a indoor tech, i'm thinking of maybe letting some grass clippings rot a bit an then sterilizing so as to release some of the nutrients that the mycelium might not be able to, then mix it with some WBS an make a cake.
Is that necessary do you think? do i really need poo? i can get some i'm just too lazy to go poo hunting as well.
Any tips would be welcome, keep up the good work all of you.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: MrWeird]
#13304858 - 10/07/10 03:35 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I'm officially a fail.
I went picking again today with my mate.
Brought them all home today to print. About 200 of them maybe more.
Got them home put my back back on the couch went to get some water. Sat down. On the backpack.
All the shrooms are flat...................
:fail:
Gonna try again tomorrow.
3rd times the charm?
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Base Icks]
#13306359 - 10/07/10 10:07 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Got them home put my back back on the couch went to get some water. Sat down. On the backpack.
Yeah, tomorrow's gonna be another day. Good luck!
Peace
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Base Icks]
#13306507 - 10/07/10 10:50 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Base Icks said:
I'm officially a fail.
I went picking again today with my mate.
Brought them all home today to print. About 200 of them maybe more.
Got them home put my back back on the couch went to get some water. Sat down. On the backpack.
All the shrooms are flat...................
:fail:
Gonna try again tomorrow.
3rd times the charm?
No worries mate- munch!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Satisfy]
#13309527 - 10/08/10 03:41 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I'm giving it a go with the cardboard cloning tek. A couple of dozen 2" cardboard squares moistened with rainwater and with about 10 stem stubs in the corrugated grooves of each one. Present working conditions dictate against using agar. I'll post any developments.
I have several lib prints available... Also, I printed a couple of P. strictipes the other day.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Mr E Guest]
#13335425 - 10/14/10 10:37 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Nexus:
Any updates on your experiments brother?
Funny you should ask.....
This is Tray #1. 75% RGS
25% Manure
This one is showing some promise.
The other three had a horrible smell  and were put outside.
The next test either way I will try with dry grass clippings instead of fresh.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13335431 - 10/14/10 10:38 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Heres the jar that was inoculated with the last of the CCS LC on September 20th. 
Heres the Honey LC
I have high hopes for this one.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Mr E Guest]
#13415635 - 10/31/10 06:00 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Mr E Guest said:
I'm giving it a go with the cardboard cloning tek. A couple of dozen 2" cardboard squares moistened with rainwater and with about 10 stem stubs in the corrugated grooves of each one. Present working conditions dictate against using agar. I'll post any developments.
Update: they hated it and are all dead!! May try an improved tek with sterilised cardboard. Or resort to a more sensible technique.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Mr E Guest]
#13415669 - 10/31/10 06:13 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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I've just finished inoculating 3 more petris of spores from a wild print given to me by another member, to add to 3 petris of spores from a specimen I collected. Fingers crossed that at least one of these germinates.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13415711 - 10/31/10 06:24 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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My tray is still colonizing. Probably another month before being placed in the GH.
The WBS jar is still growing but very slow...as usual.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13433583 - 11/04/10 10:54 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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A quick update.
Heres both sides of the WBS jar after 45 days of colonizing.
 
Back in January I placed a few drops of the spore culture from the original syringes onto two PDA dishes. They've been growing in the fridge ever since.
 
Tray #1 is still going but not a significant change from the last photo.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13434162 - 11/04/10 12:56 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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looking good chaps, loving the libery myc, keep us posted please!
Gods work this is.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: FractalXplora]
#13454659 - 11/08/10 03:30 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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indoorlibertycaps? i thought they were specificly an outdoor strain suited2harsh conditions???? im a die hard fan of this strain,personally gathered 1200+ this year and have only ate and handed out around300so plenty of fun2come,apart from hawaiin there is simply no other strain that is as good for visuals and that goes for g.t's and mckennaii as well,5g of dry libs will send you into orbit,if you really do know a way to cultivate them do tell....
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: funguy psilocybe]
#13455032 - 11/08/10 04:45 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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indoorlibertycaps? i thought they were specificly an outdoor strain suited2harsh conditions????
They're a species, not a strain. Yes, they've turned out to be very difficult to cultivate indoors. That's what we're trying to figure out.
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if you really do know a way to cultivate them do tell....
You'll be the first to know when we get there.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13455121 - 11/08/10 05:03 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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You make any progress andy?
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Base Icks]
#13455156 - 11/08/10 05:14 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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You make any progress andy?
Slowly, maybe. The petries I did from my own print seemed to be showing nada, but I think possibly there's something there after a couple of weeks. The ones I did from your print seemed to take off a little faster. However, they might all be showing some bacteria from the syringes too -- I'm not familiar with how this is supposed to look with this species!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13455285 - 11/08/10 05:34 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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I take it you went print to syringe to agar?
I usually just to spore to agar.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13455291 - 11/08/10 05:35 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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.. Going straight from wild prints to syringes (rather than looping spores straight from the prints) might have been a dumb move, frankly. At least one of those dishes looks pretty good though -- if slow -- and I'll be able to make lots of attempts.
Did you manage to make any more prints for yourself?
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Base Icks]
#13455328 - 11/08/10 05:41 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Base Icks said:
I take it you went print to syringe to agar?
I usually just to spore to agar.
Yeah, print to syringe (see above). However I think I might be OK. Looking at Nexus's dishes above, the mycelium does seem look a little different from other species I've worked with. Kinda lumpy looking.
Nexus, were yours very slow on agar too? Or do you reckon only because they were in the fridge?
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13455338 - 11/08/10 05:42 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Nah I been busy/lazy. witch ever you want to call it.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Base Icks]
#13455357 - 11/08/10 05:47 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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It finally feels like the conditions might be right down here for a short hunting season. Nippy air and wet. I'm still looking around so I'll send you one back if I get anything. Otherwise I can cut you a culture from a dish if I manage to get something healthy.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13455377 - 11/08/10 05:49 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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In your own time man, I got more shit on my plate than I have space and time for as it is 
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13456253 - 11/08/10 08:27 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Nexus, were yours very slow on agar too? Or do you reckon only because they were in the fridge?
I started with a syringe to agar and they were very slow. They were in the incubator first and then placed in the fridge for later use. They did keep growing in the fridge.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13534077 - 11/24/10 06:37 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Any updates on this? Real interesting experiments going on here, just need some fruits now. Good luck guys.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: CharlieD123]
#13534081 - 11/24/10 06:38 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Has anyone tried working from a clone?
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Base Icks]
#13534201 - 11/24/10 07:35 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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im pissed only found a small hand full of libs a month ago and that was it. all dried up now.
kept them if i found more at the usual patch. not a thing there all season now we have snow on the ground.
i doubt i could get a clone from them all dried, maybe tho might take few transfers i need some good parafilm this saran wrap sucks
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Base Icks]
#13534241 - 11/24/10 07:51 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Base Icks said:
Has anyone tried working from a clone?
I might try that next, if I find any more. None of the recent ones I've picked have dropped any discernable number spores for me.
I do have several dishes going from spores though. They're sloooow.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13534712 - 11/24/10 09:50 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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The bottom of the tray is still colonizing but it's almost ready.
The jar...not so much.....
Actually it is colonizing but very slowly, as can be expected with this species.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13535178 - 11/24/10 11:34 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Has anyone tried working from a clone?
I might try that next, if I find any more. None of the recent ones I've picked have dropped any discernable number spores for me.
I do have several dishes going from spores though. They're sloooow.
you get any prints? They hardly drop anything anyways ime.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Base Icks]
#13535345 - 11/24/10 12:08 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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you get any prints? They hardly drop anything anyways ime.
No, pretty sure none of them dropped anything this time; the foil was shiny and virginal aside from the bugs.
I got 3 plates out of a spore print from a member  and there's plenty more spore solution from that. I also got one print of my own earlier and there's a spore syringe and a plate of that going too. Just say the word if you want me to send you anything. The spore solution had a little bit of a bacteria problem, but it was easy to clean up from.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13535407 - 11/24/10 12:23 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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I as just curious man. Plate is full atm. Keep us posted guys!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Base Icks]
#13535620 - 11/24/10 01:06 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Really interested if this will work. Been wondering this for years if libs can be grown indoors or not..
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Individual]
#13536101 - 11/24/10 02:51 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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heres some thick semi prints.
you have to print them in the cold.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Mr E Guest]
#13536110 - 11/24/10 02:53 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Mr E Guest said:
I'm giving it a go with the cardboard cloning tek. A couple of dozen 2" cardboard squares moistened with rainwater and with about 10 stem stubs in the corrugated grooves of each one. Present working conditions dictate against using agar. I'll post any developments.
I have several lib prints available... Also, I printed a couple of P. strictipes the other day.
you have pics of these strictipes? are they confirmed or just suspected?
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#13536622 - 11/24/10 04:35 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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heres some thick semi prints.
you have to print them in the cold.
As in like in the fridge or in the back room? What temp range are we talking here?
Very interesting.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Base Icks]
#13537358 - 11/24/10 07:36 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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i do it in my garage. i am not too sure of the exact temp. but its pretty cool in there. a fridge would probably work too.
most of these colder weather species like this as its a natural temp for spore release i think. i just did it last week with tiny P pelliculosas and i got some thick prints for such small mushrooms! also printing the most prime looking healthy mushrooms helps too.
i have a few of these to trade, they are from British Columbia. I am after different wood lovers mostly. send a pm. 
Edited by psylosymonreturns (11/24/10 07:39 PM)
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#13538361 - 11/25/10 12:28 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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you have to print them in the cold.
 that never even occurred to me. Thanks for the tip.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#13538583 - 11/25/10 02:27 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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heres some thick semi prints.
you have to print them in the cold.
Neat trick. Where did you learn that?
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#13538968 - 11/25/10 06:51 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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hehe i know you do it too my friend! although i already do it in the cold, your advice was well received by everyone. its great idea!! i thought folks already did that, but i guess they dont
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#13539061 - 11/25/10 07:33 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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After reading this I used isopropyl alcohol to sterilise my mini fridge and loaded it with 200 caps on foil in sterile petri's Hope this works as all my prints from this season are weak as shit. Got a bunch of half prints haha. Cheers for the good info guysv
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#13539751 - 11/25/10 11:10 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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It's too bad no one, including me, mentioned it at the Shroomery before I did. I held that secret to my vest for about 20 years before I posted that. You are far more generous than I am.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#13539868 - 11/25/10 11:43 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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It's too bad no one, including me, mentioned it at the Shroomery before I did. I held that secret to my vest for about 20 years before I posted that. You are far more generous than I am.
Well, thats what it's all about right? Sharing helpful info.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13539993 - 11/25/10 12:25 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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That would be a difference of opinion philosophically. If everyone shared everything they knew about cultivation or hunting mushrooms we would be a lot further along than we are. Obviously everyone isn't doing that for various reasons.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#13540815 - 11/25/10 04:12 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Obviously everyone isn't doing that for various reasons.
Yes but, what's your reason?
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13542852 - 11/26/10 03:16 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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I have printed P. semilanceata several times at room temperature, for me it works just fine.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13542879 - 11/26/10 03:47 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Discretion is the better part of valor.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#13543290 - 11/26/10 08:20 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Discretion is the better part of valor.
Anyway, moving right along.......
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13543300 - 11/26/10 08:24 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Gonna' inoculate a few 500ML jars with the tested LC tonight. Will become trays in about 5 months time.
I'm thankful for faster growing species at this point.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13543630 - 11/26/10 10:22 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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How long did it take to make an LC with these buggers? From agar?
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13545909 - 11/26/10 09:11 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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How long did it take to make an LC with these buggers? From agar?
The first spores I received came in syringes and have proved to be clean in both LC and on agar.
The LC took a couple of months in the incubator.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Pinback]
#13550191 - 11/27/10 07:59 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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I have printed P. semilanceata several times at room temperature, for me it works just fine.
Me too. I can see where they'd prefer to print in the cold. Seems like having the fresh specimens with good moisture and releasing spores was key, though.
Peace
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: PrimalSoup]
#13562027 - 11/30/10 09:05 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Well the lower temps for printing didn't help much. Out of about 200 prints I got a small handful of dark ones.. Roughly 20 or so, atleast it's something to play with though
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: CharlieD123]
#13562065 - 11/30/10 09:12 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Well the lower temps for printing didn't help much. Out of about 200 prints I got a small handful of dark ones.. Roughly 20 or so, atleast it's something to play with though
Hey, that's better than nothing!
Now go get the agar ready and pour some dishes!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#13566552 - 12/01/10 04:28 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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I'm giving it a go with the cardboard cloning tek. A couple of dozen 2" cardboard squares moistened with rainwater and with about 10 stem stubs in the corrugated grooves of each one. Present working conditions dictate against using agar. I'll post any developments.
I have several lib prints available... Also, I printed a couple of P. strictipes the other day.
you have pics of these strictipes? are they confirmed or just suspected?
Just suspected - I'll admit, since I wrote this, I've read about the semilanceata variant lacking a papillate umbo (nipple). I've kept specimens but my microscope isn't currently up to the job of confirming anything much!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Mr E Guest]
#13571545 - 12/02/10 01:03 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Cant wait to try!
Thanks 13shrooms!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Mr E Guest]
#13581150 - 12/04/10 09:46 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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I'm giving it a go with the cardboard cloning tek. A couple of dozen 2" cardboard squares moistened with rainwater and with about 10 stem stubs in the corrugated grooves of each one. Present working conditions dictate against using agar. I'll post any developments.
I have several lib prints available... Also, I printed a couple of P. strictipes the other day.
you have pics of these strictipes? are they confirmed or just suspected?
Just suspected - I'll admit, since I wrote this, I've read about the semilanceata variant lacking a papillate umbo (nipple). I've kept specimens but my microscope isn't currently up to the job of confirming anything much!
ya its really immposible IMO to tell them apart macroscopicly. i am sure weve all found some over the years but can you really send every variant out for microscopic analysis! if i had a good microscope, then ya i would definetly start .i want to crack the strictipes case one day. my mushroom club is thinking about purchasing a good one.you know i will have it signed out more than anybody!!
whats funny, not sure if you follow the hunting forum, is that a confirmed P strictipes was found in arizona this year. and it wasnt growing from grass, but right off of wood!!! stamets usually says its a grass land species but one time he says that its a form bridging the gapp between the wood loving P pelliculosa and the grass loving P semilanceata. so strictipes can live in both!!! its fucked , if its such a substrate slut like P stuntzii, why dont we see them more often?
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#13584714 - 12/05/10 06:35 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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ya its really immposible IMO to tell them apart macroscopicly. i am sure weve all found some over the years but can you really send every variant out for microscopic analysis! if i had a good microscope, then ya i would definetly start .i want to crack the strictipes case one day. my mushroom club is thinking about purchasing a good one.you know i will have it signed out more than anybody!!
whats funny, not sure if you follow the hunting forum, is that a confirmed P strictipes was found in arizona this year. and it wasnt growing from grass, but right off of wood!!! stamets usually says its a grass land species but one time he says that its a form bridging the gapp between the wood loving P pelliculosa and the grass loving P semilanceata. so strictipes can live in both!!! its fucked , if its such a substrate slut like P stuntzii, why dont we see them more often?
Well, obviously I don't know about the genetics of that Arizona strictipes, nor my own UK prints (strictipes or otherwise), but this is interesting enough to get me thinking about growing out some of these aforementioned spores on agar and seeing if they'll take to a wood-based substrate. I'll try looking at them through my dodgy salvaged microscope first to avoid wasting time.
Does anyone in the UK with a flowhood want to make friends with me?
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Mr E Guest]
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
#13594411 - 12/07/10 02:55 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13585983#13585983
successful Lib grow 
Do those look like liberty caps to anybody? With that thick stipe, that cap colour and shape, etc? It looks like a completely different species to me.
Very cool if that's what they are -- but boy, do cultivated libs look different from their wild siblings.
I do remember the pictures of Workman's pins weren't particularly lib-looking..
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13595145 - 12/07/10 09:33 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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B.C. ufo LIBs is what they were calling them.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
#13597471 - 12/07/10 05:23 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Don't look like libs at all. It's crazy that they look so drastically different from wild specimens, no nipple on any of them, and the strange fanned out caps with little white skirts, and thick stipe.. Not normal characteristics of mature specimens at all, but none the less impressive!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13597753 - 12/07/10 06:21 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13585983#13585983
successful Lib grow
Do those look like liberty caps to anybody? With that thick stipe, that cap colour and shape, etc? It looks like a completely different species to me.
Very cool if that's what they are -- but boy, do cultivated libs look different from their wild siblings.
I do remember the pictures of Workman's pins weren't particularly lib-looking..
 Look like libs to me. And I've seen a lot of libs in my time (admittedly in the wild but still...) Comparable to Workman's in appearance. Very nice!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Mr E Guest]
#13599707 - 12/08/10 12:31 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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they dont look like libs to me,i been picking em for 20 years, even the pictures in his post of the wild ones, they dont look anything like em?
Stems far too thick, and heads dont look right stil tho, ,they look tasty and its a sweet grow, maybe uts hte indoor conditions made em look strange?
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: FractalXplora]
#13610557 - 12/09/10 10:58 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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well i can guarantee they are P semilanceata. i picked these personally and sent them to captain._even in the wild they are ALL flat heads and totally not atypical libs. i was sure i had something different in the bag when i had these last year!! but i sent off the spores to workman and he conclude 99% sure it was P semilanceata.i was very surprised and disapointed.
love the name "BC ufo libs" btw!!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#13611332 - 12/10/10 06:05 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Man thats mad I honestly would see those in a field and not glance twice, might even accidentally step on them. Crazy how vastly their characteristics can vary!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: CharlieD123]
#13611550 - 12/10/10 07:47 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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ya it makes the whole fiscosa/ cyan argument look a bit silly. one or 2 macroscopic differences is all there is i think IMO. libs show this all the time and lib pickers dont cry new species.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#13613075 - 12/10/10 01:45 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Did anyone who made LC with semi mycelium find that it grew quite fast in LC? My LC looks OK, but given the slow speed of growth on agar, I'm a little bit sceptical about what's growing in there, given that its growth has been comparable to cube speed in LC.
[ I dropped an agar wedge into my LC to start it ]
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13614811 - 12/10/10 08:17 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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I made both the petri and LC from spores and both were very slow.
Actually, to be honest, the spores in the syringe germinated into mycelium before it was put onto the petri and into the LC.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13615888 - 12/11/10 12:31 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Andy you use a stir plate as well right? Maybe that has something to do with it?
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Base Icks]
#13616212 - 12/11/10 04:37 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Andy you use a stir plate as well right? Maybe that has something to do with it?
Yeah, I do. It certainly helps. I get pretty good results with my LCs (LME/dex in baby bottles).
The Ps. cyanescens LC I did at the same time has been equally fast, despite also being slow on agar.
I did them in a bit of a rush, so it's possible they're both contaminated though the cyanescens LC in particular looks really healthy.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13617346 - 12/11/10 12:29 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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ime growth on agar is slower in general.
i think because it just can grow 2 dimensonal, not 3d like in lc.
thats why its good to detect any contaminants; they always grow much faster on agar.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: higgledy-piggledy]
#13618694 - 12/11/10 05:50 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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ime growth on agar is slower in general.
i think because it just can grow 2 dimensonal, not 3d like in lc.
The speed difference is much more marked than what this would explain.
On agar I'm seeing growth rate of 10%-%15 the speed you'd expect from something like cube mycelium, but LC growth comparable to cubes.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13642988 - 12/16/10 03:44 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Quick update.
I added a 1/4 inch casing of pasteurized soil/verm/grass clippings (75/15/15) with a good handful of grass seed mixed in.
With any luck grass will grow and with even greater luck mushrooms.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13643105 - 12/16/10 04:12 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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I've started inoculating jars. I guess now I wait for a few months. Planning to try something with growing grass also, nexus.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13644605 - 12/16/10 09:28 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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I've started inoculating jars. I guess now I wait for a few months. Planning to try something with growing grass also, nexus.
Sounds good.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13691235 - 12/27/10 01:16 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Your all legends. 'Libs' are the best you have all inspired my to try and get some prints from FRSE and join you all in your quest. I feel quite excited.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: yummytrips]
#13691327 - 12/27/10 01:35 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Your all legends. 'Libs' are the best you have all inspired my to try and get some prints from FRSE and join you all in your quest. I feel quite excited.
Welcome aboard!
Mine is still going. Three inch grass growing on the casing now. Hopefully in the next couple of weeks I see pins! 
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13691777 - 12/27/10 03:09 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
nexus1946 said:
Quote:
yummytrips said:
Your all legends. 'Libs' are the best you have all inspired my to try and get some prints from FRSE and join you all in your quest. I feel quite excited.
Welcome aboard!
Mine is still going. Three inch grass growing on the casing now. Hopefully in the next couple of weeks I see pins!
I think the live grass is a great idea because round my way we get them off a football field with nice short grass on it. I have got all my fingers crossed for your success
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: yummytrips]
#13692672 - 12/27/10 05:56 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah i want to try it with grass too.
What do u think about my setup?
I hope it´s not to hard to understand o_0
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Peterthinks]
#13694769 - 12/28/10 04:23 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Might be worth your time to get a chunk of soil analyzed that had a mushroom growing on it, nitrogen, moisture, elements, PH, composition, organic matter content.
that's exactly what i was thinking
libs used to grow on the front lawn of a house I lived in and also on a near by golf course, neither of which had "clumps" of grass and the garden definately had no "poo" on it so that led me to believe it was more to do with either the grass roots or the actual soil content..
I might have to make a night time visit to my old house and do a little bit of gardening!
Sam
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Rivaman]
#13706954 - 12/30/10 03:21 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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ive argued this point many times in the hunting forum, you dont need poo for libs!!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#13707050 - 12/30/10 03:43 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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ive argued this point many times in the hunting forum, you dont need poo for libs!!
... at least not obvious, recent poo, necessarily.
My RGS jars are colonizing nicely now. Planning to sprinkle a few little bits of poo on top of my topsoil with my live grass seed.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13709224 - 12/30/10 10:24 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Someone should try inoculating a sterile mixture of aged horse manure, straw and grass seed with a proven clean LC, I suspect this would be a good method of producing a fruiting culture, case the colonised substrate with pasteurised peat and calcium carbonate.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#13710123 - 12/31/10 03:37 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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I've collected ample amounts from fields that were running vacant of livestock for years. They favored the sedge clumps... I have tons of pictures but they're all slides.
Peace
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: PrimalSoup]
#13712253 - 12/31/10 03:39 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Heres a pic of the tray with the grass after the 'mowed it'.
Fifteen days after casing.
And a few unrelated pics...
Cube pin porn growing from coir/verm/coffee/gypsum.
 
And growing from coir/straw/coffee/gypsum.
I felt the urge to share on this fine New Years Eve.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13714230 - 01/01/11 08:08 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Great looking stuff nexus that little chunk of grass looks great. Just want to see some dirty pins popping out of it now. Happy new year.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: yummytrips]
#13714257 - 01/01/11 08:23 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Great looking stuff nexus that little chunk of grass looks great. Just want to see some dirty pins popping out of it now. Happy new year.
Yeah, I hope the mushrooms grow as well as the grass.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13714520 - 01/01/11 10:09 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Hey Nexus, what are you doing temperature-wise? Are you trying to keep them cool, or trying to fruit them at room temperature? I've been thinking about how to rig up a cold-temps fruiting chamber. Anyone have any pointers or links to teks? I've thought about trying to build one inside a cooler somehow, with ice perhaps...
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13717769 - 01/02/11 12:15 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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I have it at 18C/64F to 20C/68F along side the cubes. I'm hoping it'll fruit at this temp..at least thats the goal. The cubes are fruiting, slowly, but they're fruiting.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13718220 - 01/02/11 06:27 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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I have it at 18C/64F to 20C/68F along side the cubes. I'm hoping it'll fruit at this temp..at least thats the goal. The cubes are fruiting, slowly, but they're fruiting.
Hmm. Yeah those temps are just slightly low for cubes but I think they're way too warm for semis. Around here, they fruit when day/night temps are less than about 15C/7C, although they seem to prefer colder than that from my limited hunting experience.
I'm trying to think of ways to cool an FC without building a special-purpose thing out of a fridge, or constantly having to supply it with ice. I saw a video of a guy making a cheap water cooler using a tupperware container of windshield washer fluid that had been kept in the freezer. I wonder whether it would be enough to stick something like that, or some other kind of reusable ice pack, into an FC. Would probably still have to be insulated, but that poses lighting and FAE problems...
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13719296 - 01/02/11 12:16 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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i would say colder too.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#13721462 - 01/02/11 06:22 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, I know they like it cooler but the whole point of this thread was to try and get them to fruit in a cube type environment. The theory is that if we succeed than hopefully the prints will carry on the traits.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13723617 - 01/03/11 05:52 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Iv got my fingers crossed for you nexus, I hope it all works out and
you get some beautiful little caps to share with us all!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13724049 - 01/03/11 08:50 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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nexus1946 said:
Yeah, I know they like it cooler but the whole point of this thread was to try and get them to fruit in a cube type environment. The theory is that if we succeed than hopefully the prints will carry on the traits.
awwwe i got ya, cool idea.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#13724331 - 01/03/11 10:05 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Most cold weather species will fruit at normal indoor air temperature. The key is having the right microbes and giving a proper cold shock.
RR
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: RogerRabbit]
#13725773 - 01/03/11 03:52 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
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Most cold weather species will fruit at normal indoor air temperature. The key is having the right microbes and giving a proper cold shock.
RR
Hopefully the right microbes are present but I didn't give it a cold shock.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13763055 - 01/10/11 10:48 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Any news yet nexus? I should be receiving some 'lib' prints soon then the mad scientist bit shall begin lol
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: yummytrips]
#13763658 - 01/10/11 01:11 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Any news yet nexus? I should be receiving some 'lib' prints soon then the mad scientist bit shall begin lol
Nothin' new, just grass.
Good luck with yours!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13781796 - 01/13/11 04:25 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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God I hope this works... Good luck man!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Wizzy]
#13819052 - 01/20/11 06:40 AM (1 year, 25 days ago) |
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Any news nexus? I got some spore prints today from FSRE which made me a happy chap but unfortunately there was no 'lib' print Will have to send off again and hope that i get one next time.
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Only after the last tree has been cut down.
Only after the last river has been poisoned.
Only after the last fish has been caught.
Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: yummytrips]
#13833620 - 01/22/11 07:14 PM (1 year, 23 days ago) |
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13shrooms hooked it up with a print or 2...
As promised, im gonna put these to good use...
It appears the spores have germinated cleanly on MEA...
Growing slowly, but growing!
Edited by total (01/22/11 07:15 PM)
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: total]
#13833795 - 01/22/11 07:43 PM (1 year, 23 days ago) |
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Hey guys
I've joined in the community if you don't mind.
Not much to show yet, as of now the bulk substrate is colonizing.
  
  
  
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: stonesun]
#13833809 - 01/22/11 07:47 PM (1 year, 23 days ago) |
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Your getting fast ass growth SS
Welcome to the club!
Im starting to wonder if maybe i should give something other than MEA a go
Maybe my ratios are off...
All my recent plates are doing ok thou...i hope
On a side note, i just sourced a wine cooler off craigslist for ~$30
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: stonesun]
#13833850 - 01/22/11 07:54 PM (1 year, 23 days ago) |
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Your mycelium looks exactly like what I grew about 25 years ago. Good luck! 
Peace
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: total]
#13833898 - 01/22/11 08:03 PM (1 year, 23 days ago) |
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Yeah, not too slow so far.
MEA plates were inoculated on the 3rd of December,
those pictures of the petris are 14 days old.
16th of December - inoculated rye with wedges,
the fully colonized jars on the pictures are 4 weeks old.
They were actually done by week 3, but I was slackin'.
Now the bulk bags are 10 days old and looking pretty good.
I know this part will be pretty slow especially because
instead of my regular 1:2 ratio I've employed 1:3 or so.
Don't ask why, it just felt right
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: stonesun]
#13833937 - 01/22/11 08:08 PM (1 year, 23 days ago) |
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I dont ask ?'s
I just sit here, nod, and look pretty...
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: total]
#13835613 - 01/23/11 04:45 AM (1 year, 22 days ago) |
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Great looking stuff SS. I sent another letter too FRSE Fingers crossed for a 'lib' print this time. If only i took some bloody prints off the ones i had
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: yummytrips]
#13835634 - 01/23/11 05:01 AM (1 year, 22 days ago) |
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Right on Stonesun, if anyone can do this, I'll bet you can. You're a bit ahead of me, I've got some more-or-less colonized RGS, but I reckon I'll give it another week or two. There are some small sclerotia in my jars too. I'll try not to eat them by accident .
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13835653 - 01/23/11 05:14 AM (1 year, 22 days ago) |
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Wow I got some on agar and its sloooooooooooow.
I'll throw some on rye when its grown out enough on the plate.
I was going to put it off but at the rate its going I need to get started sooner than later.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Base Icks]
#13837757 - 01/23/11 03:26 PM (1 year, 22 days ago) |
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Yeah, it's slow. But if you can fruit them it's more than worthwhile, it's the holy grail, IMHO.
Peace
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: PrimalSoup]
#13837799 - 01/23/11 03:34 PM (1 year, 22 days ago) |
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I feel ya. Just seems kinda pointless to me when I can pick hundreds a day from early august to late october.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Base Icks]
#13837965 - 01/23/11 04:04 PM (1 year, 22 days ago) |
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Well yeah, and I've only ever picked wild, and grown out some mycelium from spores - but that was as far as I got, back in the day.
Peace
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: stonesun]
#13840362 - 01/24/11 12:14 AM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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Quote:
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Hey guys
I've joined in the community if you don't mind.
Not much to show yet, as of now the bulk substrate is colonizing.
Welcome aboard!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: total]
#13840376 - 01/24/11 12:18 AM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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Quote:
total said:
On a side note, i just sourced a wine cooler off craigslist for ~$30
Remember, the whole point of this thread is to try and get them to fruit in a cube type environment.
CaptainFuture already accomplished growing them here in a Semilanceata type environment.
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The Story Of Russell The Texas (Cube) Bear
The human race's prospects of survival were considerably better when we were defenceless against tigers than they are today when we have become defenceless against ourselves.
-Arnold J. Toynbee
Edited by nexus1946 (01/24/11 12:23 AM)
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13841582 - 01/24/11 10:25 AM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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Remember, the whole point of this thread is to try and get them to fruit in a cube type environment.
Im going to try a couple of things tbh, even a few in a semi environment
Hopefully i can at-least replicate CaptainFuture 's successful grow...
I do plan on experimenting with you guys thou!
I should have plenty of mycelium
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13841734 - 01/24/11 10:59 AM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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Remember, the whole point of this thread is to try and get them to fruit in a cube type environment.
It is? Without mutations it seems massively unlikely. 
Peace
-PS
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: PrimalSoup]
#13842047 - 01/24/11 12:09 PM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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total said:
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nexus1946 said:
Remember, the whole point of this thread is to try and get them to fruit in a cube type environment.
Im going to try a couple of things tbh, even a few in a semi environment
Hopefully i can at-least replicate CaptainFuture 's successful grow...
I do plan on experimenting with you guys thou!
I should have plenty of mycelium
Cant wait to see your results.
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Remember, the whole point of this thread is to try and get them to fruit in a cube type environment.
It is? Without mutations it seems massively unlikely.
Peace
-PS
Maybe so but nevertheless.
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Gypsum/Drywall Tek
The Story Of Russell The Texas (Cube) Bear
The human race's prospects of survival were considerably better when we were defenceless against tigers than they are today when we have become defenceless against ourselves.
-Arnold J. Toynbee
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: PrimalSoup]
#13842150 - 01/24/11 12:29 PM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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PrimalSoup said:
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Remember, the whole point of this thread is to try and get them to fruit in a cube type environment.
It is? Without mutations it seems massively unlikely.
Peace
-PS
its all in the first post. 
how do you not read the 1st post of a thread your commenting in.
anyway, thats the long run goal here is to work on indoor fruiting conditions (like cubensis) for libs.
trying to "train" a lib strain for indoor cultivation.
its deff going to take time and repetitiveness but I think the idea of growin libs like cubes would be F'n sweet. 
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13843111 - 01/24/11 03:28 PM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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Maybe so but nevertheless.
My feelings too, though.
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how do you not read the 1st post of a thread your commenting in.
What, 13shrooms now casting stones on poor PS self? Of course I read the whole thread - this and every other one on LC cult, my all time favorite LBM - but dude this thread has been around for more than a year now... Read read click read read click...
OK, what are you talking about here? There is nothing in the first post of this thread - or the first posts of any of the two threads it refers to - to negate what I've said.
The thread at times seems to be a postulation that through "training" the Ps. semi. can be induced to fruit at higher temps, hmm?
Well no shit people, I've had this exact thing happen to a cold fruiting lignicolous species (Ps. cyanescens) ONCE thanks to some sort of reaction to heat shocking, about 20 years ago. It was accidental.
And I grew the direct descendants of that strain for years on end, until I quit cultivating altogether for 10 years. They grew and fruited on grain under the same conditions as Ps. cubensis, but were easily twice as potent and psychedelic as anybody could ever want. Like their ancestors they always expressed Ps. cyan. phenotypes.
People tend not to believe this, so why should they believe (without proof) that somebody could "train" Ps. semi. to fruit easily at normal room temps (if indeed that is the goal)? Sorry to rain on that parade, but every LC indoor grow involved replicating the wild fruit's favored enviro.
The only proof I can provide is resurrecting that strain from the prints that I have, and I'm still working on that. I've fruited out two strains from the spores to date, but both stalled at about 1/2 inch tall.
Ya want to "train" LCs out of their genetically determined preferences, ya need mutants, is all I'm saying!
Peace
-PS
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: PrimalSoup]
#13844079 - 01/24/11 06:32 PM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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Loving this thread, I hope hope hope this is achieved!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: psilosibling]
#13844151 - 01/24/11 06:43 PM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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Well no shit people, I've had this exact thing happen to a cold fruiting lignicolous species (Ps. cyanescens) ONCE thanks to some sort of reaction to heat shocking, about 20 years ago. It was accidental.
And I grew the direct descendants of that strain for years on end, until I quit cultivating altogether for 10 years. They grew and fruited on grain under the same conditions as Ps. cubensis, but were easily twice as potent and psychedelic as anybody could ever want. Like their ancestors they always expressed Ps. cyan. phenotypes.
People tend not to believe this, so why should they believe (without proof) that somebody could "train" Ps. semi. to fruit easily at normal room temps (if indeed that is the goal)? Sorry to rain on that parade, but every LC indoor grow involved replicating the wild fruit's favored enviro.
so it will work, or should I say, it can be done.
I dont care how it happens just as long as someone can achieve it and replicate it for others to be able to replicate in turn.
mutants are IME always more potent so mutant libs would kick ass  
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
#13845107 - 01/24/11 09:25 PM (1 year, 20 days ago) |
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There's the rub, don'cha know? All I can say is that it happened to me, one time. And obviously if it happened once it can happen again. But the odds could be so small it might not, I don't know.
I'll tell you what I remember about the incident - I had a thermostat get stuck in the fruiting chamber and it ran way too hot. As I recall, since I was fruiting these Ps. cyans in an old fridge in the garage, I could get it cold but I couldn't get it warm enough inside to suit, so I had some sort of heating system rigged up as well inside. It went way too high (I recall taking the temp and finding something like 104F in the substrate ), and when I found out I was totally freaked, cause I thought they were dead, and the cyans took plenty of time to cultivate due to the temps. I pulled the plug on the heater setup and just left them there. A few days or a week later I checked and they were recovering. That was where the mutant variety came from, as best I recall. They were pushed close to the edge of thermal tolerance and something interesting happened as a result.
Anyway, I've been soaking spores from the 15 year old main print I have of these for a couple months now and I'm going to try a set of plates to try again to get back to the mother lode.
Best of luck with LC mutants!
Peace
-PS
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