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psylosymonreturns
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: CharlieD123]
#13611550 - 12/10/10 07:47 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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ya it makes the whole fiscosa/ cyan argument look a bit silly. one or 2 macroscopic differences is all there is i think IMO. libs show this all the time and lib pickers dont cry new species.
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andymc
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#13613075 - 12/10/10 01:45 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Did anyone who made LC with semi mycelium find that it grew quite fast in LC? My LC looks OK, but given the slow speed of growth on agar, I'm a little bit sceptical about what's growing in there, given that its growth has been comparable to cube speed in LC.
[ I dropped an agar wedge into my LC to start it ]
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13614811 - 12/10/10 08:17 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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I made both the petri and LC from spores and both were very slow.
Actually, to be honest, the spores in the syringe germinated into mycelium before it was put onto the petri and into the LC.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13615888 - 12/11/10 12:31 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Andy you use a stir plate as well right? Maybe that has something to do with it?
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Base Icks]
#13616212 - 12/11/10 04:37 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Base Icks said: Andy you use a stir plate as well right? Maybe that has something to do with it? 
Yeah, I do. It certainly helps. I get pretty good results with my LCs (LME/dex in baby bottles).
The Ps. cyanescens LC I did at the same time has been equally fast, despite also being slow on agar.
I did them in a bit of a rush, so it's possible they're both contaminated though the cyanescens LC in particular looks really healthy.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13617346 - 12/11/10 12:29 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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ime growth on agar is slower in general. i think because it just can grow 2 dimensonal, not 3d like in lc.
thats why its good to detect any contaminants; they always grow much faster on agar.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: higgledy-piggledy]
#13618694 - 12/11/10 05:50 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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higgledy-piggledy said: ime growth on agar is slower in general. i think because it just can grow 2 dimensonal, not 3d like in lc.
The speed difference is much more marked than what this would explain.
On agar I'm seeing growth rate of 10%-%15 the speed you'd expect from something like cube mycelium, but LC growth comparable to cubes.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13642988 - 12/16/10 03:44 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Quick update.
I added a 1/4 inch casing of pasteurized soil/verm/grass clippings (75/15/15) with a good handful of grass seed mixed in.
With any luck grass will grow and with even greater luck mushrooms.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13643105 - 12/16/10 04:12 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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I've started inoculating jars. I guess now I wait for a few months. Planning to try something with growing grass also, nexus.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13644605 - 12/16/10 09:28 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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andymc said: I've started inoculating jars. I guess now I wait for a few months. Planning to try something with growing grass also, nexus.
Sounds good.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13691235 - 12/27/10 01:16 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Your all legends. 'Libs' are the best you have all inspired my to try and get some prints from FRSE and join you all in your quest. I feel quite excited.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: yummytrips]
#13691327 - 12/27/10 01:35 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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yummytrips said: Your all legends. 'Libs' are the best you have all inspired my to try and get some prints from FRSE and join you all in your quest. I feel quite excited.
Welcome aboard! 
Mine is still going. Three inch grass growing on the casing now. Hopefully in the next couple of weeks I see pins!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13691777 - 12/27/10 03:09 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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nexus1946 said:
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yummytrips said: Your all legends. 'Libs' are the best you have all inspired my to try and get some prints from FRSE and join you all in your quest. I feel quite excited.
Welcome aboard! 
Mine is still going. Three inch grass growing on the casing now. Hopefully in the next couple of weeks I see pins! 
I think the live grass is a great idea because round my way we get them off a football field with nice short grass on it. I have got all my fingers crossed for your success
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: yummytrips]
#13692672 - 12/27/10 05:56 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah i want to try it with grass too. What do u think about my setup?

I hope it´s not to hard to understand o_0
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Peterthinks]
#13694769 - 12/28/10 04:23 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Might be worth your time to get a chunk of soil analyzed that had a mushroom growing on it, nitrogen, moisture, elements, PH, composition, organic matter content.
that's exactly what i was thinking libs used to grow on the front lawn of a house I lived in and also on a near by golf course, neither of which had "clumps" of grass and the garden definately had no "poo" on it so that led me to believe it was more to do with either the grass roots or the actual soil content.. I might have to make a night time visit to my old house and do a little bit of gardening! Sam
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Rivaman]
#13706954 - 12/30/10 03:21 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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ive argued this point many times in the hunting forum, you dont need poo for libs!!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#13707050 - 12/30/10 03:43 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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psylosymonreturns said: ive argued this point many times in the hunting forum, you dont need poo for libs!!
... at least not obvious, recent poo, necessarily. 
My RGS jars are colonizing nicely now. Planning to sprinkle a few little bits of poo on top of my topsoil with my live grass seed.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13709224 - 12/30/10 10:24 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Someone should try inoculating a sterile mixture of aged horse manure, straw and grass seed with a proven clean LC, I suspect this would be a good method of producing a fruiting culture, case the colonised substrate with pasteurised peat and calcium carbonate.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#13710123 - 12/31/10 03:37 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I've collected ample amounts from fields that were running vacant of livestock for years. They favored the sedge clumps... I have tons of pictures but they're all slides. 
Peace -PS
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: PrimalSoup]
#13712253 - 12/31/10 03:39 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Heres a pic of the tray with the grass after the 'mowed it'. 
Fifteen days after casing.

And a few unrelated pics...
Cube pin porn growing from coir/verm/coffee/gypsum.
 
And growing from coir/straw/coffee/gypsum.

I felt the urge to share on this fine New Years Eve.
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