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OfflineNunbuh_Chrubble
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I realized that I am in a sexual relationship with the internet
    #10970008 - 08/30/09 10:57 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Seriously. And most of you do too. Think about how many hours we've all spent getting off with our computers?

This reminds me of McKenna's chapter in The Archaic Revival called "Alien Love" (which can be read here). He talks about the erotic dimension of contact experiences and describes it as a kind of adolescent exploration of our relationship with The Other (aliens, the Overmind, whatev).

I feel like the internet (the nervous system for the human Oversoul) is beginning the slow ascent into maturity. What this means, I can't say. I just feel like all of these metaphors of (mycelial) networks, (programming) languages, new kinds of media, cephalopods (WTF? Cephalopds?), and psychedelic culture... it's all coming together man!

Does anyone else know what the hell I'm talking about?

:bongload:


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Re: I realized that I am in a sexual relationship with the internet [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #10970034 - 08/30/09 11:00 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Meh. It's not the computer you're getting off to, it's the bitch choking on 2 cocks in the video.

If that's what you mean by getting off with our computers..

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Re: I realized that I am in a sexual relationship with the internet [Re: blazenn]
    #10970129 - 08/30/09 11:15 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

yeah, but let's get serious. In reality it's just us, sitting in a room with our computer which is simulating an illusion which looks like a bitch choking on 2 cocks. Some people use their computer nearly every time they masturbate. If that's not techno-fetishism then I don't know what is.

We have to acknowledge that technology exists in relationship with eroticism.

It's a known fact that internet porn sites pioneered the kind of software technology that made youtube even possible. As soon as the photograph was invented people were like "Hey, we can take pictures of ourselves naked with these things!" and they did.

Since our erotic drive represents the creative/lifeforce urge, and since our technology is changing our evolution, then what does this relationship between them mean?


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Re: I realized that I am in a sexual relationship with the internet [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #10970154 - 08/30/09 11:19 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Ok lemme put it this way. When you're watching porn are you thinking "Oh yeah Dell show me what sex looks like! Portray to me technologically that this bitch just got bukkaked by 10 guys!" No you're thinking, "Damn she's hot as hell" or "Fuck yeah take the footlong!" or what the hell ever you're watching. You're just watching the act of sex the same as if you were actually in the same room. Itt's just that it's been recorded and broadcasted online for your own personal private entertainment.

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Re: I realized that I am in a sexual relationship with the internet [Re: blazenn]
    #10970203 - 08/30/09 11:25 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

:logic:

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Re: I realized that I am in a sexual relationship with the internet [Re: blazenn]
    #10970215 - 08/30/09 11:27 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

:facepalm:

You guys are totally missing my point.

When you have real sex, you don't think about all the physiology and the biology involved. But it's there, and it has a HUGE effect on the whole experience.

Well it's the same way with auto-erotic technology (in the sense that I'm talking about). You don't think, "Oh yea, i'm totally streaming this flash file right now." But the fact that you can stream videos of pretty much ANY sex act imaginable... INSTANTLY... definitely has an effect on the whole experience.

And since exploring our sexuality means exploring our "selves" (or whatever bs you wanna call it) then I'm just wondering how technology is fitting in to all of this.

Jesus, haven't you guys ever heard that quote from McCluhan, "The medium is the message" and whatnot?


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Re: I realized that I am in a sexual relationship with the internet [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #10970363 - 08/30/09 11:55 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Technology is just providing a new medium through which to view sex. If your point is "Since sex can be so easily viewed through technology, it can be unhealthy to excessively view sexual fantasies and you can become detached from true sexuality." you have a point. But I think you're saying "Since sex is displayed through technology, and is the most frequently chosen medium, that the relationship between the two is such that people become solely dependent on the technology to fully fulfill their fantasies, rather than other possible outlets they could choose (after seeing sex on said technology)."

And, I don't really think people find it necessary to use our abundant technology to view sex, but it does make it easier. I think that is why most people use it so frequently: the ease. We live in a time where sex is at your fingertips, so people are going to use that a lot more than at a time where sex was only in a magazine, VHS, etc.

I don't have a social relationship with my cell phone, just because I use it to contact everyone I know in this world.


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Re: I realized that I am in a sexual relationship with the internet [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #10970388 - 08/30/09 11:59 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

i find its harder to get off when looking at porn. simply because your brain interprets so much so fast, it becomes all the same. nothing new, every once in a while you'll see one that is unique that gets u off. but I agree its more of an illusion, it cant compare to the real thing.

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Re: I realized that I am in a sexual relationship with the internet [Re: astralexplosion]
    #10970433 - 08/31/09 12:10 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I've got a feeling the OP was just hitting the bong a little to hard and started thinking to deeply into this whole porn thing.  :rofl2:

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Re: I realized that I am in a sexual relationship with the internet [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #10970524 - 08/31/09 12:34 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
Seriously. And most of you do too. Think about how many hours we've all spent getting off with our computers?

This reminds me of McKenna's chapter in The Archaic Revival called "Alien Love" (which can be read here). He talks about the erotic dimension of contact experiences and describes it as a kind of adolescent exploration of our relationship with The Other (aliens, the Overmind, whatev).

I feel like the internet (the nervous system for the human Oversoul) is beginning the slow ascent into maturity. What this means, I can't say. I just feel like all of these metaphors of (mycelial) networks, (programming) languages, new kinds of media, cephalopods (WTF? Cephalopds?), and psychedelic culture... it's all coming together man!

Does anyone else know what the hell I'm talking about?

:bongload:






I get what your talkin about. There is definately alot of time spent with Ms. Dell and Palmela Handerson. In a sense it is a sexual relationship, if you zoom out enough to stop seeing indivual people in individual sex acts, and just see the hours spent whackin off lookin into a little box...


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    #10970630 - 08/31/09 01:12 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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Edited by FrenchMachine (02/18/10 04:57 PM)

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Re: I realized that I am in a sexual relationship with the internet [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #10971199 - 08/31/09 06:45 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Definitely interesting how technology is affecting sex. I guess using your computer to gain access to sexual images is a kind of relationship. Because relationships aren't just of a personal nature, they can be objective as well. So i would say there is an objective sexual relationship between humans and computers. Cool thought.

Edited by DimensionX (08/31/09 06:46 AM)

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Re: I realized that I am in a sexual relationship with the internet [Re: FrenchMachine]
    #10971201 - 08/31/09 06:50 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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just see the hours spent whackin off lookin into a little box...






Exactly. If someone or something was watching us from afar and didnt know what our Televisions or Computers were...they would just see a bunch of beings sitting around staring into square objects the majority of their waking time. Beings staring into square objects that cause them to experience the full range of emotions...laughter, sadness, anger, excitement, arousal, etc, etc. Beings that love these square boxes so much they had to make smaller versions to carry around with them 24/7/365.





so true


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Re: I realized that I am in a sexual relationship with the internet [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #10971390 - 08/31/09 08:12 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
Seriously. And most of you do too. Think about how many hours we've all spent getting off with our computers?

This reminds me of McKenna's chapter in The Archaic Revival called "Alien Love" (which can be read here). He talks about the erotic dimension of contact experiences and describes it as a kind of adolescent exploration of our relationship with The Other (aliens, the Overmind, whatev).

I feel like the internet (the nervous system for the human Oversoul) is beginning the slow ascent into maturity. What this means, I can't say. I just feel like all of these metaphors of (mycelial) networks, (programming) languages, new kinds of media, cephalopods (WTF? Cephalopds?), and psychedelic culture... it's all coming together man!

Does anyone else know what the hell I'm talking about?

:bongload:




eh, nah man.

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Re: I realized that I am in a sexual relationship with the internet [Re: kayabear]
    #10971393 - 08/31/09 08:13 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Soooo.. If I read erotic literature all the time and jack off to it, I'd be in a sexual relationship with my books?


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Re: I realized that I am in a sexual relationship with the internet [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #10971569 - 08/31/09 09:09 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
Seriously. And most of you do too. Think about how many hours we've all spent getting off with our computers?

This reminds me of McKenna's chapter in The Archaic Revival called "Alien Love" (which can be read here). He talks about the erotic dimension of contact experiences and describes it as a kind of adolescent exploration of our relationship with The Other (aliens, the Overmind, whatev).

I feel like the internet (the nervous system for the human Oversoul) is beginning the slow ascent into maturity. What this means, I can't say. I just feel like all of these metaphors of (mycelial) networks, (programming) languages, new kinds of media, cephalopods (WTF? Cephalopds?), and psychedelic culture... it's all coming together man!

Does anyone else know what the hell I'm talking about?

:bongload:




way too much weed and shrooms man, way too much

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Re: I realized that I am in a sexual relationship with the internet [Re: kayabear]
    #10971601 - 08/31/09 09:18 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

OP's got it all down.
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kayabear said:
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FrenchMachine said:
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just see the hours spent whackin off lookin into a little box...






Exactly. If someone or something was watching us from afar and didnt know what our Televisions or Computers were...they would just see a bunch of beings sitting around staring into square objects the majority of their waking time. Beings staring into square objects that cause them to experience the full range of emotions...laughter, sadness, anger, excitement, arousal, etc, etc. Beings that love these square boxes so much they had to make smaller versions to carry around with them 24/7/365.





so true



I am almost scared to think of the next stage in human entertainment and communication. Have any of you read the book named Feed? Not the most amazing piece of literature but a good one all the same, might just get some of you thinking a bit.
We'll be going from a screen/computer outside the mind, to have them inside in the mind any year now.

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Re: I realized that I am in a sexual relationship with the internet [Re: zSDMF]
    #10971614 - 08/31/09 09:22 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I think you guys got too caught up in the sexual aspect of his point. What he basically meant, I'll try to explain it without the sex thing so your minds don't get clouded with fantasies, is that we are slowly but surely integrating technology into ourselves and our natural urges and behaviors.

The line between wetware and hardware is dissolving. Technology is being used more and more to look at and explore ourselves.


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Re: I realized that I am in a sexual relationship with the internet [Re: solstice]
    #10971654 - 08/31/09 09:36 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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If your point is "Since sex can be so easily viewed through technology, it can be unhealthy to excessively view sexual fantasies and you can become detached from true sexuality." you have a point. But I think you're saying "Since sex is displayed through technology, and is the most frequently chosen medium, that the relationship between the two is such that people become solely dependent on the technology to fully fulfill their fantasies, rather than other possible outlets they could choose (after seeing sex on said technology)."

And, I don't really think people find it necessary to use our abundant technology to view sex, but it does make it easier. I think that is why most people use it so frequently: the ease. We live in a time where sex is at your fingertips, so people are going to use that a lot more than at a time where sex was only in a magazine, VHS, etc.

I don't have a social relationship with my cell phone, just because I use it to contact everyone I know in this world.




First, I wasn't putting any kind of value judgment on anything. I'm looking at it pretty neutrally.

And if you say you use your cell phone to contact everyone you know in this world, how can you DENY having a social relationship to it?




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TheArsenal said:
If your point is "Since sex can be so easily viewed through technology, it can be unhealthy to excessively view sexual fantasies and you can become detached from true sexuality." you have a point. But I think you're saying "Since sex is displayed through technology, and is the most frequently chosen medium, that the relationship between the two is such that people become solely dependent on the technology to fully fulfill their fantasies, rather than other possible outlets they could choose (after seeing sex on said technology)."

And, I don't really think people find it necessary to use our abundant technology to view sex, but it does make it easier. I think that is why most people use it so frequently: the ease. We live in a time where sex is at your fingertips, so people are going to use that a lot more than at a time where sex was only in a magazine, VHS, etc.

I don't have a social relationship with my cell phone, just because I use it to contact everyone I know in this world.




First, I wasn't putting any kind of value judgment on anything. I'm looking at it pretty neutrally.

And if you say you use your cell phone to contact everyone you know in this world, how can you DENY having a social relationship to it?


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I think you guys got too caught up in the sexual aspect of his point. What he basically meant, I'll try to explain it without the sex thing so your minds don't get clouded with fantasies, is that we are slowly but surely integrating technology into ourselves and our natural urges and behaviors.

The line between wetware and hardware is dissolving. Technology is being used more and more to look at and explore ourselves.




Exactly!

:bongload:

Time for me to get to class...


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Re: I realized that I am in a sexual relationship with the internet [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #10971784 - 08/31/09 10:09 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
I just feel like all of these metaphors of (mycelial) networks, (programming) languages, new kinds of media, cephalopods (WTF? Cephalopds?), and psychedelic culture... it's all coming together man!



...WTF do cephalopods have do do with this? :/

Have you been watching too many Japanese cartoons?


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