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SweetTooth
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Big shroom cap, heavy bluing, black/purple spores South Florida - Golden orange nipple! What is it?

#10938027 - 08/25/09 09:15 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Habitat:
Where does it grow? pasture under tree in old decomposing cow dung

Gills:
Black/Purple gills

Stem:

White, solid & fibrous, heavy bluing where squeezed

Cap:

Meaty & thick with big gills, metallic orange golden nipple - see pics

Spore print color:
very dark black purple

Bruising:
dark blue

Other information:
weighs 8 grams wet with stem, smells very shroomy, very dark spores are dropping by the boatload from it.

I would like to positively ID this mushroom, note it was stepped on by a cow before my friend picked it and thus half of the cap was mushed into the ground and all gunked up and ruined.

My friend also took some of the mycelium from below the shroom which was pure white and some surrounding pieces of old rotted cow dung that had matching white growth inside of it...question is:

Best way to print this and store it to preserve this shroom race...

How to use the mycelium to grow more..most foolproof way?

What exactly is it? A cubensis?

The nipple on top of the cap is literally metallic golden orange..like metallic paint almost. It smells fantastic and very earthy/shroomy.

The bluing is very dark where the stem was squeezed, nearly black..

Also - is this a monster size cap? It is only half and still weights 8 grams wet with stem. I'm guessing a whole one would weigh 14-15 grams complete.

This was found in Southeast Florida. Thank you!

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Shroomfinch
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Re: Big shroom cap, heavy bluing, black/purple spores South Florida - Golden orange nipple! What is it?

[Re: SweetTooth]
#10938118 - 08/25/09 09:26 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I would say for sure a cubensis, and a big one at that!

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SweetTooth
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Re: Big shroom cap, heavy bluing, black/purple spores South Florida - Golden orange nipple! What is it?

[Re: Shroomfinch]
#10938157 - 08/25/09 09:32 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Do you know what kind?

I'm assuming it's something wild..there were many pins everywhere close to where this one was found...and it's been raining so I'm guessing there will be many more coming. :smile:

The wierd thing is the nipple is not orange..it literally is a shiny metallic golden...it almost looks like it's airbrushed or something..refracts light. Never seen anything like it before..

See last picture close-up...it's much more shiny/golden in person.

Also, does the strong blue reaction on the stem mean it's very potent?

Why do I feel like this is a very special shroom......

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Re: Big shroom cap, heavy bluing, black/purple spores South Florida - Golden orange nipple! What is it?

[Re: SweetTooth]
#10938160 - 08/25/09 09:33 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, Psilocybe Cubensis.

Best way to grow from that mushroom - search around, theres a ton of info on that (cardboard tek, etc.)
And as you asked, no that isn't a monster at all, wet weight often easily exceeds 100 or even sometimes 200 grams

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SweetTooth
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Re: Big shroom cap, heavy bluing, black/purple spores South Florida - Golden orange nipple! What is it?

[Re: CubieMcCuberton]
#10938191 - 08/25/09 09:37 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

100 to 200 grams wet? Are you sure dude? That seems impossible..

And are you 100% sure this is a wild south florida psilocybe cube?

(before I eat the stem and die lol)

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Re: Big shroom cap, heavy bluing, black/purple spores South Florida - Golden orange nipple! What is it?

[Re: SweetTooth]
#10938343 - 08/25/09 10:02 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I don't know about cubes, but when I dry out my A.muscarias the caps turn a very metallic looking color. I guess the same could happen to a cube as well :smile:

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Re: Big shroom cap, heavy bluing, black/purple spores South Florida - Golden orange nipple! What is it?

[Re: SweetTooth]
#10938367 - 08/25/09 10:05 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

SweetTooth said:
100 to 200 grams wet? Are you sure dude? That seems impossible..

And are you 100% sure this is a wild south florida psilocybe cube?

(before I eat the stem and die lol)

No one who replied yet is a trusted identifier, however, it is extremely likely that it is going to be identified as cubensis. 98.7%

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Edited by Agent 47 (08/25/09 10:07 PM)

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Re: Big shroom cap, heavy bluing, black/purple spores South Florida - Golden orange nipple! What is it?

[Re: SweetTooth]
#10938395 - 08/25/09 10:09 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

SweetTooth said:
100 to 200 grams wet? Are you sure dude? That seems impossible..

And are you 100% sure this is a wild south florida psilocybe cube?

(before I eat the stem and die lol)

Yeah Im sure they can get that big, here a link to one over 200 grams

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5770557#5770557

Also, yes, I would say that is a psilocybe cubensis, however I am not a pro, so if you are worried about it, wait for someone with a "trusted cultivator" tag under they're name to come in and identify it.

If you ate that whole thing you would just have a very mild experience, down it with some lemon juice if you do.

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Re: Big shroom cap, heavy bluing, black/purple spores South Florida - Golden orange nipple! What is it?

[Re: CubieMcCuberton]
#10938422 - 08/25/09 10:12 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah it's definitely a mature cube, looks full of gritty sand too...nom nom.

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Re: Big shroom cap, heavy bluing, black/purple spores South Florida - Golden orange nipple! What is it?

[Re: SweetTooth]
#10938437 - 08/25/09 10:14 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

SweetTooth said:
100 to 200 grams wet? Are you sure dude? That seems impossible..

And are you 100% sure this is a wild south florida psilocybe cube?

(before I eat the stem and die lol)

I'd say that is a wild south Florida Psilocybe cubensis for sure. As far as wild cubes weighing 200 grams is concerned, I think that's not very common. That's 7 ounces wet weight, nearly 1/2 pound. However, "when in doubt, throw it out." If you have any doubts about the mushroom at all, don't eat it. I'd get to know them a little better first.

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Re: Big shroom cap, heavy bluing, black/purple spores South Florida - Golden orange nipple! What is it?

[Re: CubieMcCuberton]
#10938468 - 08/25/09 10:18 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

CubieMcCuberton said:
Quote:

SweetTooth said:
100 to 200 grams wet? Are you sure dude? That seems impossible..

And are you 100% sure this is a wild south florida psilocybe cube?

(before I eat the stem and die lol)

Yeah Im sure they can get that big, here a link to one over 200 grams

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5770557#5770557

That's a cultivated mushroom, probably grown under perfect conditions. And her measurements are off. That isn't over 8 inches wide.

Quote:

Wronguy said:
Very nice HC. I love the South American strain. I personally don't care for meaty fruits, but it makes for a nice show. BTW, that cap doesn't look like 8 1/2", more like 4-5. Anyway, great work!

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Re: Big shroom cap, heavy bluing, black/purple spores South Florida - Golden orange nipple! What is it?

[Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#10938484 - 08/25/09 10:20 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, if referring to solely wild cubes weighing that much, yes im sure that is incredibly rare, but if cultivated then it has been seen before, especially ones weighing over 100 grams. He just asked if his was a "monster" which I would say it is not.

Go ahead and eat the whole thing, do a lemon tek for sure.

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Re: Big shroom cap, heavy bluing, black/purple spores South Florida - Golden orange nipple! What is it?

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#10938629 - 08/25/09 10:42 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, his is far from a "monster." If you compare the quarter in the photo, his works out to something like 2.8 inches, far from a monster by any standards.

These aren't monsters either but they are pretty sweet.

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#10938635 - 08/25/09 10:44 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, its a cube and safe to eat. it probably weighed around 65 fresh grams, no more than 90 grams fresh guaranteed

wild cubes can end up weighing more than you think, because they can get so waterlogged out there. but there's no way it weighed 200grams fresh

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Re: Big shroom cap, heavy bluing, black/purple spores South Florida - Golden orange nipple! What is

[Re: SweetTooth]
#10938720 - 08/25/09 11:00 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

SweetTooth said:
Other information:
weighs 8 grams wet with stem, smells very shroomy, very dark spores are dropping by the boatload from it.

you must have weighed it when it was drying out or already completely dried, because that mushroom did not weigh 8 grams fresh

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SweetTooth
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Re: Big shroom cap, heavy bluing, black/purple spores South Florida - Golden orange nipple! What is

[Re: panaeolus]
#10938998 - 08/25/09 11:46 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

It was 8.1 grams on a digital about 15 mins after picking, however it is very mature and I'm guessing has lost some water weight overall since it was very hot today and this is surely not a one day old shroom...probably been there for at least 2 days in the shade minimum, it seems loaded to the gills with spores, literally! lol. :smile:

It's printing dark purple black prints in 20 mins each..DARK and full, I have never seen so many spore on any shroom..I have made about 5 so far now..just a plain clean white piece of paper under the cap with a plate over the top and it drops them really fast with a few extra taps on top..then I cut the print out in a square, and am putting them in freezer bags in a dark cool place...does this sound acceptable for near future usage? (research) should I fold the paper over itself after or can it touch the side of the freezer bag? I am by no means very knowledgeable in this area, but I am a quick learner and very curious. :rasta:

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Edited by SweetTooth (08/25/09 11:47 PM)

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SweetTooth
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[Re: SweetTooth]
#10939151 - 08/26/09 12:15 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Update: I ate the whole stem (2+ grams) about 25 mins ago with orange juice and am definitely tripping but it's very nice...tracers and brighter colors, I feel really floaty and silly..warm :crazy2:

gotta love that cow shit, moooooooo

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SweetTooth
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[Re: SweetTooth]
#10939199 - 08/26/09 12:25 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

ok, it's hitting harder..glad I did'nt eat the whole thing this is some strong soma, the stem did not have much water in it at all..was just blue/white mushroom meat and rather dry..so yeah it's getting kinda groovy here now I feel very floaty and light, things are brighter

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[Re: CubieMcCuberton]
#10939489 - 08/26/09 01:23 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

CubieMcCuberton said:
Yeah, if referring to solely wild cubes weighing that much, yes im sure that is incredibly rare, but if cultivated then it has been seen before, especially ones weighing over 100 grams. He just asked if his was a "monster" which I would say it is not.

Go ahead and eat the whole thing, do a lemon tek for sure.

I have seen more than ten over 100 grams, from nature.

This is one

This is another.

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[Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#10939505 - 08/26/09 01:27 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Mr. Mushrooms said:
Yeah, his is far from a "monster." If you compare the quarter in the photo, his works out to something like 2.8 inches, far from a monster by any standards.

These aren't monsters either but they are pretty sweet.

Those were sweet,but

these were my favorites.Especially the last three, I thought they looked like fried eggs.

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