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Muslim sentenced to be Educated by a Rattan Cane 4 Beer Delayed UPDATE*
#10895219 - 08/20/09 02:44 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Model to be Caned for Drinking Beer in Malaysia Wednesday, August 19, 2009 Associated Press
KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia — A Muslim part-time model will be caned next week, becoming the first woman in Malaysia to be given the punishment under Islamic law, after she pleaded guilty to drinking beer, a prosecutor said Wednesday.
An Islamic court in July ordered that Kartika Sari Dewi Shukarno, 32, be lashed six times with a rattan cane after she was caught drinking alcohol in a raid on a hotel night club in eastern Pahang state last year.
Prosecutor Saiful Idham Sahimi said Kartika will be the first woman to be caned under Islamic law after she chose not to appeal the sentence.
"This is the first case in Malaysia. ... It is a good punishment because under Islamic law a person who drinks commits a serious offense," he said.
On Tuesday, the court set a one-week period starting next Monday for the sentence to be carried out in a woman's prison, Saiful said. It is up to prison authorities to decide when to cane her during that period.
He said Kartika will remain in prison during that time and will be released "as soon as possible" after the caning is carried out.
Saiful said the rattan cane to be used on Kartika would be lighter than the one used on men, and its purpose was to "educate" rather than punish.
Muslims, who make up about two-thirds of Malaysia's 28 million people, are governed by Islamic courts in all civilian and Islamic matters. Most alcohol offenders are fined, but the law also provides for a three-year prison term and caning.
Non-Muslims are governed by civil courts, which also impose caning for offenses such as rape and corruption. Women, children and men above 50 are exempt under civil law. Caning, administered on the buttocks, breaks the skin and leaves permanent scars.
Kartika said earlier that she wanted authorities to cane her soon so that she can resume her life with her husband and children. Some politicians and women's rights activists have criticized the penalty as too harsh.
A woman and a man, both Muslims, were also arrested during a series of raids in Cherating, a beach town in Pahang state, on the night when Kartika was detained. Both were also sentenced to caning, but they have appealed.
Malaysian clubs and lounges typically serve alcohol and are not legally required to check if customers are Muslims before serving them.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/malaysia/6054890/Model-who-drank-beer-to-be-first-woman-caned-in-Malaysia.html
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Eamonndoran1
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Re: Muslim sentenced to be Educated by a Rattan Cane for her Contemptuous act of Drinking a Beer [Re: Coaster]
#10895590 - 08/20/09 05:04 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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That is fucked up
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buddhabadger
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Re: Muslim sentenced to be Educated by a Rattan Cane for her Contemptuous act of Drinking a Beer [Re: Eamonndoran1]
#10896359 - 08/20/09 09:49 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Man I really hate the stupid bullshit people do in the name of religion.
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Re: Muslim sentenced to be Educated by a Rattan Cane for her Contemptuous act of Drinking a Beer [Re: buddhabadger]
#10896998 - 08/20/09 11:42 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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buddhabadger said: Man I really hate the stupid bullshit people do in the name of religion.
QFT.
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Green_T
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Re: Muslim sentenced to be Educated by a Rattan Cane for her Contemptuous act of Drinking a Beer [Re: blazenn]
#10897089 - 08/20/09 12:03 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Malaysia is a weird country...
"after she was caught drinking alcohol in a raid on a hotel night club in eastern Pahang state last year."
The hotel was raided to see if any Muslims were drinking? lol.
I know people from Malaysia. Christians are allowed to drink, but Muslims aren't. Its like the Muslims are all under 21: if they want to drink, they have to find a Christian to hook em up!
Also, it is perfectly legal to convert to Islam, but illegal to convert from Islam.
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Re: Muslim sentenced to be Educated by a Rattan Cane for her Contemptuous act of Drinking a Beer [Re: Green_T]
#10897737 - 08/20/09 01:44 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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This punish many seem cruel,but in many islamic countries the sentence for drinking alcohol just once is death while using drugs requires three uses before death.
Still fucked up, but could be a lot worse.
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Re: Muslim sentenced to be Educated by a Rattan Cane for her Contemptuous act of Drinking a Beer [Re: withoutawire]
#10899773 - 08/20/09 07:22 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wait - so Malaysia has two sets of state laws, one secular, applying to all citizens, and one Islamic, which applies only to Muslims?
Can we nuke these dumb assholes please?
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Coaster
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Re: Muslim sentenced to be Educated by a Rattan Cane for her Contemptuous act of Drinking a Beer [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
#10899842 - 08/20/09 07:33 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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u wana nuke these people?
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guitarpah
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Re: Muslim sentenced to be Educated by a Rattan Cane for her Contemptuous act of Drinking a Beer [Re: Coaster]
#10901104 - 08/20/09 10:18 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Believing in god is a sin.
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Sophistic Radiance
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Re: Muslim sentenced to be Educated by a Rattan Cane for her Contemptuous act of Drinking a Beer [Re: guitarpah]
#10901312 - 08/20/09 10:52 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't actually want anybody to be nuked, but honestly, having separate sets of laws for "Muslim" and "Other" is probably the worst idea in the history of mankind. I'm pretty sure that's how things were generally run in, like, 1200.
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Re: Muslim sentenced to be Educated by a Rattan Cane for her Contemptuous act of Drinking a Beer [Re: Coaster]
#10901437 - 08/20/09 11:11 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why go backwards when you can go forwards.
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Re: Muslim sentenced to be Educated by a Rattan Cane for her Contemptuous act of Drinking a Beer [Re: Lord Mayonnaise]
#10907279 - 08/21/09 07:47 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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what kind of asshole would carry out the punishment?
"just doin my job"
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Coaster
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Re: Muslim sentenced to be Educated by a Rattan Cane for her Contemptuous act of Drinking a Beer [Re: 2859558484]
#10924761 - 08/24/09 04:25 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
wowitch17 said: what kind of asshole would carry out the punishment?
"just doin my job"
hahahaahahah ya theres a lot of jobs i thnk that about
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KARAI, Malaysia — Malaysia abruptly granted a Ramadan reprieve to the first Muslim Malay woman to be sentenced to caning for drinking beer, but insisted Monday the thrashing would still take place after the Islamic holy month of fasting.
Kartika Sari Dewi Shukarno, a 32-year-old mother of two, had been en route to a women's prison for the caning when Islamic officials who took her into custody drove her back home and released her.
Mohamad Sahfri Abdul Aziz, a state legislator in charge of religious affairs, later said the Attorney General's office advised that the caning should be delayed for compassionate reasons until after the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan, which began Saturday.
"The sentence is not being canceled," Mohamad Sahfri told The Associated Press.
Amnesty International condemned the sentence, and many critics had said the caning would harm Malaysia's reputation as a moderate Muslim-majority country.
Kartika was arrested in a raid for drinking beer at a hotel lounge in December 2007 and accused of breaching Malaysia's Shariah law, which forbids Muslims from consuming alcohol.
The law provides for a three-year prison term and caning for Muslims caught drinking, but most offenders are fined. Drinking is legal for non-Muslims.
Kartika was sentenced to six strokes of a rattan cane by the Shariah court in July in what was considered a warning to other Muslims to abide by religious laws.
In an interview with the AP last week, Kartika said she wanted to be caned because "I want to respect the law."
Kartika's sister, Ratna, said Kartika was "very stressed" because of the unexpected delay.
Islamic authorities had insisted that the purpose of the caning is to educate rather than punish. They say the rattan cane supposed to be used on Kartika would be smaller and lighter than the one used for men and that she will remain clothed.
Men convicted of crimes such as rape and bribery in Malaysia are caned on their bare buttocks, breaking the skin and leaving permanent scars.
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