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What if we could get theaters to show a fair documentary on Marijuana?
#10795838 - 08/03/09 11:13 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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What if we as Marijuana lovers could somehow unite and work together to get a fair and educational documentary (such as The Union) in theaters? I think it would bring about a radically different image of Marijuana to the general public. What if all stoners worked together and contributed capital in order for this to happen? Maybe NORML could be behind it and everyone could donate to that cause. What are your thoughts on this? I don't know about you guys but I want to see change on this completely unfair criminalization within my lifetime. If jackasses like Ben Stein can do things on this level then why can't we?
We need to transform our society's mind on this issue for the benefit of humanity. I mean, even growing hemp here in America is illegal! Anything that has anything to do with Marijuana is immediately abolished without any logical thought. The government says Marijuana is harmful yet they approve of the synthetic version of it? This is insane. And people eat up whatever the government tells them.
How hard would it be for you to give up some of your money for a cause such as this? I mean, we have people fervently giving 10% of their income at churches. Yet there are plenty of Cannabis lovers here on these forums who have never done a single thing for a Marijuana related cause.
What do you think about this?
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Re: What if we could get theaters to show a fair documentary on Marijuana? [Re: Nihlus]
#10795894 - 08/03/09 11:29 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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What if we could get the mainstream news to start talking about the many tragedies that happen on a daily basis because of the war on marijuana ?
I posted a while back that the best way to expose the drug war would be through a well done, high budget movie that shows lives being ruined because of the war- based on true stories
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Re: What if we could get theaters to show a fair documentary on Marijuana? [Re: skatealex2]
#10796043 - 08/04/09 12:18 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I really like that idea. So you mean kind of an awareness raising fictional film sort of like Blood Diamond was?
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Re: What if we could get theaters to show a fair documentary on Marijuana? [Re: skatealex2]
#10796090 - 08/04/09 12:37 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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skatealex2 said: What if we could get the mainstream news to start talking about the many tragedies that happen on a daily basis because of the war on marijuana ?
I posted a while back that the best way to expose the drug war would be through a well done, high budget movie that shows lives being ruined because of the war- based on true stories
Start with the racial, greedy past that created the present laws, show the present along with those suffering from the "war", and then show the possible future, where the economy is thriving, the people are healthier, smarter, etc. Lower crime rates, happier farmers, breakthrough marijuana research (fuels, meds, etc),,,
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Re: What if we could get theaters to show a fair documentary on Marijuana? [Re: Nihlus]
#10796137 - 08/04/09 12:51 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nihlus said: I really like that idea. So you mean kind of an awareness raising fictional film sort of like Blood Diamond was?
yeah. but I was thinking it would be tight if there were like 3 mini movies in one. that show different stories.
for example:
the first story can be about a teenager that liked to smoke weed at parties or on his free time, and eventually he gets busted somehow and killed in jail.. the whole story can actually just be the events leading up to it----- obviously the characters will be interesting people and such. but I've heard plenty of stories about young people who died or got raped in jail over weed.
second story could be about people that abuse pills or something. maybe show the negative side of pills. - shows that the movie isn't saying use drugs.
then the third story can be about a father that smokes weed and in the end gets his house siezed and his family gets ruined because of the DEA- base it on someone's real story.
Maybe I should pitch this idea to some celebrities that are trying to help the marijuana movement. maybe I can get hooked up
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Re: What if we could get theaters to show a fair documentary on Marijuana? [Re: skatealex2]
#10796194 - 08/04/09 01:02 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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This movie won't happen untill it's legalized,
The government has a way with censoring things that make them look stupid.
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Re: What if we could get theaters to show a fair documentary on Marijuana? [Re: skatealex2]
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Nihlus said: I really like that idea. So you mean kind of an awareness raising fictional film sort of like Blood Diamond was?
yeah. but I was thinking it would be tight if there were like 3 mini movies in one. that show different stories.
for example:
the first story can be about a teenager that liked to smoke weed at parties or on his free time, and eventually he gets busted somehow and killed in jail.. the whole story can actually just be the events leading up to it----- obviously the characters will be interesting people and such. but I've heard plenty of stories about young people who died or got raped in jail over weed.
second story could be about people that abuse pills or something. maybe show the negative side of pills. - shows that the movie isn't saying use drugs.
then the third story can be about a father that smokes weed and in the end gets his house siezed and his family gets ruined because of the DEA- base it on someone's real story.
Maybe I should pitch this idea to some celebrities that are trying to help the marijuana movement. maybe I can get hooked up
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Re: What if we could get theaters to show a fair documentary on Marijuana? [Re: metalmorph]
#10796220 - 08/04/09 01:09 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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she's probably not easy to reach though and maybe a little too conventional.
I need to get an interesting director behind this
maybe the south park guys would do it
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Re: What if we could get theaters to show a fair documentary on Marijuana? [Re: skatealex2]
#10796364 - 08/04/09 01:49 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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she's probably not easy to reach though and maybe a little too conventional.
I need to get an interesting director behind this
maybe the south park guys would do it
Cause the south park guys make fair, educational documentaries...
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Re: What if we could get theaters to show a fair documentary on Marijuana? [Re: Nihlus]
#10796500 - 08/04/09 03:07 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nihlus said: What if we as Marijuana lovers could somehow unite and work together to get a fair and educational documentary (such as The Union) in theaters? I think it would bring about a radically different image of Marijuana to the general public. What if all stoners worked together and contributed capital in order for this to happen? Maybe NORML could be behind it and everyone could donate to that cause. What are your thoughts on this? I don't know about you guys but I want to see change on this completely unfair criminalization within my lifetime. If jackasses like Ben Stein can do things on this level then why can't we?
We need to transform our society's mind on this issue for the benefit of humanity. I mean, even growing hemp here in America is illegal! Anything that has anything to do with Marijuana is immediately abolished without any logical thought. The government says Marijuana is harmful yet they approve of the synthetic version of it? This is insane. And people eat up whatever the government tells them.
How hard would it be for you to give up some of your money for a cause such as this? I mean, we have people fervently giving 10% of their income at churches. Yet there are plenty of Cannabis lovers here on these forums who have never done a single thing for a Marijuana related cause.
What do you think about this?
I agree with everything you say, but even if somehow an unbiased educational documentary did make its way into theaters, think about the audience. Do you think that people against marijuana are going to pay to see it? No, probably not. Maybe the people who are radically against it and want to see it so that they can dispute it, but it doesn't much matter if they saw it since their minds won't be changed anyways. In all likelyhood, the main audience would consist of people who are fully against the war on drugs (people who are already on our side) and people who are whole-heartedly for it (people whose minds won't be changed).
The people it would need to reach would be those in the middle of the spectrum who don't have a strong opinion one way or another. Those would be the people we would hope to target, but they are also the individuals that probably wouldn't be inclined to pay to see a documentary about marijuana.
It is a good idea though. And maybe if it were done in a way that could make it appealing to wider audiences, it could really benefit things.
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Re: What if we could get theaters to show a fair documentary on Marijuana? [Re: alternatereality]
#10796527 - 08/04/09 03:24 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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http://theunionmovie.com/TheUnionWeb.html
It's the best marijuana documentary I've seen; I plan on emailing a link to a .torrent of it once she gets sound back on her computer...
It's conducted in such a way, especially at the very end, which leaves you kind of in awe that the blankets have been pulled over your eyes for that long on such a broad array of issues and subject matter.
Check it out, if you haven't already seen it yet.
Bringing it into the "mainstream" would be a good idea -- no $$ necessary for movie production and such. However just burning copies of it and spreading the knowledge may work better because the posters above are right -- nobody big is going to want to pick up a documentary about pot to hit theaters in the spring of 2012 next to family films and such.
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Re: What if we could get theaters to show a fair documentary on Marijuana? [Re: Nihlus]
#10796542 - 08/04/09 03:32 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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This is possible, with cutting out the production of a movie.
Using the Union as, generally the best movie out there, we can petition local movie theaters to show this documentary.
I know of at least one college movie theater that if you get enough signatures, then you're allowed to air what ever the hell you like.
It's our responsibility as peaceful marijuana users to spread the truth, so why not do this?
Edit: Brain blast...
Using past knowledge of such things, you can donate copies of media to libraries and you can also say donate a magazine to hospitals, and basically anywhere. If you own a business such as a doctors office, you can play it in your waiting room, if you own a store with a television, play it in there.
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Re: What if we could get theaters to show a fair documentary on Marijuana? [Re: Nihlus]
#10796544 - 08/04/09 03:34 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I wish Michael Moore would do one. Even if you don't like him, you gotta admit that it would be seen in theaters.
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Re: What if we could get theaters to show a fair documentary on Marijuana? [Re: metalmorph]
#10796573 - 08/04/09 03:49 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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metalmorph said: It's our responsibility as peaceful marijuana users to spread the truth, so why not do this?
I'll give my college campus a call about this in a couple of hours when they're open =P.
Good luck to you -- gotta spread the word the best you can.
Oh and the signatures shouldn't be a real problem -- just gotta get the info on the loopholes n shit and grab some forms that'll feel so nice to fill out.,,, with a new gel pen!
lets throw the ball into the fed's court.
Gonna buy myself a nice gel pen after these amps kickin =D
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Re: What if we could get theaters to show a fair documentary on Marijuana? [Re: 0kehSt0nr]
#10796582 - 08/04/09 03:53 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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metalmorph said: It's our responsibility as peaceful marijuana users to spread the truth, so why not do this?
I'll give my college campus a call about this in a couple of hours when they're open =P.
Good luck to you -- gotta spread the word the best you can.
Oh and the signatures shouldn't be a real problem -- just gotta get the info on the loopholes n shit and grab some forms that'll feel so nice to fill out.,,, with a new gel pen!
lets throw the ball into the fed's court.
Gonna buy myself a nice gel pen after these amps kickin =D
That's the spirit!
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Re: What if we could get theaters to show a fair documentary on Marijuana? [Re: metalmorph]
#10796710 - 08/04/09 04:50 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yo other people sitting idly at your computer putting together a kickass playlist, or server config, or whatever the fuck you are doing,
just try a /little/ bit. small steps at first, then onto great strides. If all works out, as it ought to, it'd be pushed center stage onto our media circus.
I'm thinking "The Union" could stand a chance since they even had that tidbit of information thrown in there somewhere where it states: "All you need is 50% of congress and the approval of one man; it's not that difficult." Or something along those lines.
I'm sure it's true, and if the public gets a decent exposure to the lies spouted from "trusted" officials, the "authoritative" edge they once had would be put up for closer inspection =D Leaving the pot-smoking community to rally together; it's a fight that they've had coming at them for quite a while...
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Re: What if we could get theaters to show a fair documentary on Marijuana? [Re: Nihlus]
#10796832 - 08/04/09 05:37 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nihlus said: I don't know about you guys but I want to see change on this completely unfair criminalization within my lifetime.
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Re: What if we could get theaters to show a fair documentary on Marijuana? [Re: Captain Caveman]
#10796845 - 08/04/09 05:46 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Captain Caveman said:
Start with the racial, greedy past that created the present laws, show the present along with those suffering from the "war", and then show the possible future, where the economy is thriving, the people are healthier, smarter, etc. Lower crime rates, happier farmers, breakthrough marijuana research (fuels, meds, etc),,,
People against drugs would see that as biased.
the fact is is that antidrug movements holds more of the power than we do, and until that power shifts to our favor, i say hold off on the documentary
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Re: What if we could get theaters to show a fair documentary on Marijuana? [Re: skatealex2]
#10796860 - 08/04/09 05:58 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nihlus said: I really like that idea. So you mean kind of an awareness raising fictional film sort of like Blood Diamond was?
yeah. but I was thinking it would be tight if there were like 3 mini movies in one. that show different stories.
for example:
the first story can be about a teenager that liked to smoke weed at parties or on his free time, and eventually he gets busted somehow and killed in jail.. the whole story can actually just be the events leading up to it----- obviously the characters will be interesting people and such. but I've heard plenty of stories about young people who died or got raped in jail over weed.
second story could be about people that abuse pills or something. maybe show the negative side of pills. - shows that the movie isn't saying use drugs.
then the third story can be about a father that smokes weed and in the end gets his house siezed and his family gets ruined because of the DEA- base it on someone's real story.
Maybe I should pitch this idea to some celebrities that are trying to help the marijuana movement. maybe I can get hooked up
5 shrooms dude we are on to something
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Re: What if we could get theaters to show a fair documentary on Marijuana? [Re: skatealex2]
#10796870 - 08/04/09 06:03 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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maybe the south park guys would do it
no fuckn way dude, noone would take it seriosly
"Do you think that people against marijuana are going to pay to see it?"
Actually i do. The movie will project a healthy image.
But we should start campaigning with other things as well - mainly we should push an EDUCATION campaign - education and awareness of mind altering substances. And porject a healthy image - healthy as in opposite of common house-wife-protect-the-kids type image weed is evil. Know what im saying?
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Re: What if we could get theaters to show a fair documentary on Marijuana? [Re: desant]
#10797815 - 08/04/09 11:00 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Alright apparently the community college administrators are too good to turn on their switchboards at 8:00 in the morning. Got stuck up in a never ending cycle of
"... press 1 for admissions, press 2 for staff and administration, press ... blah blah blah ...press 0 for the operator..." <.< zero >.> "Our switchboards are not online at this moment... please wait while we transfer you to an operator..." <.< ... >.> "... press 1 for admissions, press 2 for staff and administration, press ..."
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Come on you potheads, activists, and hey how about everybody who's ever been fucked over by the man or harbors very real fears that some inane law will bite you in the ass one day
Get yourself a soapbox and lash it out at anybody willing to listen... it may get you labeled as l00nayyy by some, others may ignore your views...
-- which is fine really. Maybe something for them to dwell on by their own for a bit --
... or better yet, poke fun at that silly stoner standing up for himself and those he feels knows are treated as second-rate citizen because they "do drugs" by both peers and their own government for FAR too long.
No matter how many people who choose to subjugate you with games of "moral rights/wrongs/yadda yadda", as well as other forms of backwards thinking, doublespeak and "spin" that will have your brain hemorrhaging and spine twisting all sortsa directions.
## # This horrible condition, first reported and documented in the early/late 1930's by a research team headed by PhD B. Dean and Dr.Baig, is most often attributed to the noxious and often times "obnoxious" frequency of the beta-waves (as well as other various brainwaves) generated and ultimately emitted from the misinformed/ignorant one's brain-blobbery ;] # ##
back on track:
there will be SOMEBODY motivated by your sickly sweet rambling words on reform and vented frustrations. Those who are aware and those who have just awoken to see our system of governance is operating under the wandering eyes of our deputy derelicts.
These realizations will hopefully become more and more socially accepted and maybe will even become the "mainstream." Oooooohhh. Ahhhh.
A strung together sentence; mangled and molded in it's raw form plucked from your psyche -- it is, at this point, too raw for expectations of full understanding from others --
It well as manically crafted and modified from it's original form a series of electro-chemical reactions resulting in an idea which is then converted sequence of alphanumeric characters, which hopefully lead to similar reactions that occur in the body of the one taking in your words.
-- not the average person, not the "dope fiend", not even the community as a whole --
We need some more wild-eyed stoners ready to end this war. Not only put an end to our oppression, but to join the fight against all others who flex their government appointed super-citizen-powers of oppression; maneuvering in a technically "legal" fashon.
The beauty of this pseudo-Robbin-Hood monomaniac approach used by a prrettttyy good, amount of public officials...
-- Obama included --
...is that it seems to somehow work out so well in system structured as ours is, and in a society bloated with misinformation, reinforced negative stereotypes brought to you for your well-being by the US government, and those just playing a "game" to fit in, be different, sport the newest coolest toy, whatever.
Things need to must change!
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Aha, I'm not crazy ...really. Well not that crazy. Well crazy or not this is a legit cause and we really should be fighting for this.
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<< edited out amphetamine-induced H.S.T. ramble on prohibition and such... >>
Maybe I'm coming off too strong, eh? Aha. I'll take a break while I'm waiting for these switchboards to open...
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Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail: '72 ~ Hunter S. Thompson(page 481 -- 4th ¶) Said: [tt]PRESS ON, NOTHING IN THE WORLD CAN TAKE THE PLACE OF PERSISTANCE.
TALENT WILL NOT: NOTHING IS MORE COMMON THAN UNSUCCESSFUL MEN WITH TALENT.
GENIUS WILL NOT: UN-REWARDED GENIUS IS ALMOST A PROVERB.
EDUCATION ALONE WILL NOT: THE WORLD IS FULL OF EDUCATED DERELICTS.
PERSISTENCE AND DETERMINATION ALONE ARE OMNIPOTENT.[/tt]
^^ that'd be nice to add to my slackware MotD ;D
The last sentence/stanza/? is a good one -- I might be looking into it too deeply... but just to throw it out there... =P -- to me, in short, it says that one with enough drive and willpower, will be able to overcome anything set in their way. Thus making these two qualities maybe the most influential if we wish to drive the a blow deep into any unjust, nonsensical, and poisoning law or action our government sets in motion. ___[/MoTD]___
Damn this post grows every time I edit it... Time to pop another drug belonging to the stimulant family and get some ideas flowing for other conduits which are both practical and allows one to maximize exposure to individuals willing to open their minds to a new perspective.
delete this post if it's a bit too "weird".
Couldn't help but jump around so much..... lost track. worked out, showered, thought, wrote, damn....
aha time to call my school again =D
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Re: What if we could get theaters to show a fair documentary on Marijuana? [Re: 0kehSt0nr]
#10797999 - 08/04/09 11:30 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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once is out of office things are going to get better.................................
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Re: What if we could get theaters to show a fair documentary on Marijuana? [Re: skatealex2]
#10798167 - 08/04/09 11:59 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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we do not need theatre's or anything more. it has been the perogative of my group for sometime to commence public screenings of our own 'conspiracy' styled film. after watching the union the ball has begun rolling, we are in the process of attaining a street performers license and a better quality data projector, we already have the speakers.
oh, and when i say a public screening i mean a relatively unnanounced screening on the side of the county court or parliament house in town. rock down with say, maybe only 20-50 people. have strict codes held, ie not smoking pot (or even cigarettes) in the screening area. this will only cause the passing public to be immediately shut off to the message (they just can't help it) and, maybe not where you are but def here police brutality.
on the topic of brutality, it can never support your cause. yours can if used directly, without concern for individual criminilization in a form of near-martyrdom, however any brutality coming from the police lines will be spun and used against you, so never fight them unless you're sure you'll win. i've made that mistake before, it only costs you parts of your life.
do not break the law when they can use it. there is a bright, hazy future in which we're smoking fat scoobs all over the place, when flouride and alcohol aren't the only proscribed medications. until that day just don't give them a reason. the world is filling up with empty detention centers and prisons, waiting to cage anyone who opposes their new world order.
and it is truly unavoidable that the world will imminently change, but to what remains contentious.
we can make the new world, we can make it green and beautiful and free, we are the most gifted and enlightened generation the world has seen since Dionysus last appeared in the 60s, this time the public is just as scared as we are, and as our movement is so enigmatic we are too hard to hate.
this movie will work wonders, and there are others which the people of the world need to see as well. this movie and this type of investigative journalism will speak to people. if you watch any 20 seconds of the union, you will learn something you did not previously know about MJ. i've been smoking for 12 years, i've researched a lot of MJ botany through erowid for years, and i knew a fifth of the enlightenments the film was throwing around.
bring it back to the people, all we need is all we got, TRUTH!
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Re: What if we could get theaters to show a fair documentary on Marijuana? [Re: skatealex2]
#10798178 - 08/04/09 12:01 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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that mulatto using his white wits and black barbarianism... almost anyone could fall victim to the man.
And by man, I mean beast.
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on another note, just called my school. After a little time stuck being transferred here, then there, then back over there I landed in student resources or something chatting it up with Cathy.
She said the best avenue to persue with this kinda thing (I told her a normal 1-room rental with a TV set wont cut it -- we need a larger venue)would be to talk to the dean or one of the "higher-ups" about this.
When bringing up that this film was a documentary on marijuana and may be controversial, nothing she said or didn't say made it seem as if they would have a problem with it.
Very nice and informative. I see tomorrow's adventure to the Deans Office working out lovely. =D
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Re: What if we could get theaters to show a fair documentary on Marijuana? [Re: blue.mean.yen]
#10798223 - 08/04/09 12:09 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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blewmeeenAY! That's one ballsy idea. I hope it all goes along smoothly!
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and dont forget to hit up the local media outlets first and give them a nice talking to so they realize you're not here to disrupt, but to educate the public.
and mainly so they get the big scoop before fox news swoops in and inevitably shits all over your guerrilla-informa-theater.
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Re: What if we could get theaters to show a fair documentary on Marijuana? [Re: 0kehSt0nr]
#10802760 - 08/05/09 12:50 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Love the ideas people. I'm gonna have a gathering tomorrow at my place for some friends to see it on a bigass projector.
baby steps...
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