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 Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Cervantes]
#10650474 - 07/09/09 10:12 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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the only thing i can think of would be bird poo since birds have a tendency to shit in the same place in large groups
the native pans could have adapted to growing in fertile soil
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Cervantes]
#10650492 - 07/09/09 10:16 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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oh and to clear some of your confusion about PESH(if there is any)
it came from a vendor in hawaii so the people who got it(for lack of a better term) decided to add hawaii into the name
ill see if i can find the source of this...
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: lacma50]
#10650667 - 07/09/09 10:43 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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One step ahead of you. See the entry for PESH in the first posts of this thread. 
PES did sell cube spores labeled 'Hawaiian'.
They also sold a cube labeled 'Hybrid'.
SO for a time, there were two PESH's... AND the hybrid was not a hybrid... and the Hawaiian was not from Hawaii.
Seems, their Amazonian was from the Amazon though...
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Cervantes]
#10650706 - 07/09/09 10:50 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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lol
do you know what species of mushrooms grew in hawaii before human introduction?
knowing what those grow on could help narrow it down on what the native pans grow on
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: lacma50]
#10653079 - 07/10/09 12:36 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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hawaii did have wild boars on it before humans well at least white ones.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: trekie]
#10653173 - 07/10/09 12:59 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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hawaii did have wild boars on it before humans well at least white ones.
Sorry, nope.
Pigs were a human import.
Hawaii was settled by humans twice (by Micronesians and Tahitians) before Captain Cook 'Discovered' it. The Polynesian settlers brought their own pigs, chickens and plants... like coconuts and taro.
A laden swallow did not carry coconuts to Hawaii, and pigs didn't fly there either.
Hawaii is in the middle of the deepest part of the Pacific. It is a volcanic island chain, so none of the islands were ever connected to continents allowing for large mammals to evolve as the island chain drifted off into the ocean... unlike say, Australia.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: lacma50]
#10653576 - 07/10/09 02:16 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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lol
do you know what species of mushrooms grew in hawaii before human introduction?
knowing what those grow on could help narrow it down on what the native pans grow on
It is hard to say for certain... people didn't really study it before the Europeans came.
BUT, mushrooms DID grow on the islands before human introduction.
There's some really cool fungus in Hawaii.
http://books.google.com/books?id=xbEC2PrmZZkC&pg=PA9&lpg=PA9&dq=native+hawaiian+mushrooms&source=bl&ots=zPnO-FM-cQ&sig=vSVl_T2YQwZsmeaIKh77ht9Q--k&hl=en&ei=dKxXSoSvOoKMsgOC1djWBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Cervantes]
#10653594 - 07/10/09 02:23 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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What is odd though is this:
Hawaii does have native Pan Cyans... which also like poo. Although, pan cyan spores are smaller than cubes, so they may have made the oceanic trek more easily (small spores blow further)... but what did they grow on before cow and horse poo?
Probably deer feces. Deer where brought by boat to Hawaii as a present to the Hawaiian King. I can't remember which country offered them as a gift...but now they are a REAL nuisance on the islands, especially Molola'i and Lani'i.
Deer are herbivores like cows and horses and could have ingested grass which carried spores. It's possible that when the boats where emptied of the deer feces after a long voyage (that which wasn't dumped overboard) the feces had fungal spores in it which then germinated and was further propagated by the deer...
Just a thought
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Livingston]
#10653638 - 07/10/09 02:34 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Livingston said:
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Cervantes said:
What is odd though is this:
Hawaii does have native Pan Cyans... which also like poo. Although, pan cyan spores are smaller than cubes, so they may have made the oceanic trek more easily (small spores blow further)... but what did they grow on before cow and horse poo?
Probably deer feces. Deer where brought by boat to Hawaii as a present to the Hawaiian King. I can't remember which country offered them as a gift...but now they are a REAL nuisance on the islands, especially Molola'i and Lani'i.
Deer are herbivores like cows and horses and could have ingested grass which carried spores. It's possible that when the boats where emptied of the deer feces after a long voyage (that which wasn't dumped overboard) the feces had fungal spores in it which then germinated and was further propagated by the deer...
Just a thought
hawaii had native pans before that
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Cervantes]
#10653640 - 07/10/09 02:35 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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A laden swallow did not carry coconuts to Hawaii
that made my day!!!!!!!!
how did the palm tree get there anyways?
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Livingston]
#10653641 - 07/10/09 02:35 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Around the same time, cows and horses were also introduced BUT they were all introduced in the 1800's or later.
At the earliest some mammals (pigs, goats) were introduced loosely between 300 and 1100 AD.
Birds or wind may have brought the spores of many dung lovers after the mammals were introduced... but I doubt the deer are solely to blame. Deer came late.
On a side note, depending on the island, there are many different types of feral animals. Even the city of Honolulu itself has its share of feral chickens, and goats in the hills.
For a while cows roamed free on many islands.
Even rabbits.
Most have been hunted back into domestication... but pigs, goats and yes, deer still roam free on many islands... along with many feral mongoose, dogs and cats.
It is amazing how fertile Hawaii is. As soon as anything is introduced, it takes off... much to the chagrin of the native species.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: trekie]
#10654924 - 07/10/09 08:05 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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hawaii did have wild boars on it before humans well at least white ones.
Hawaii was nothing but water till the volcanos that made the ilands got nice and big to where they broke the water surface. So... NO nothing lived there. Too hot.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: mister]
#10655347 - 07/10/09 09:45 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Only the volcanic parts were too hot.
The Hawaiian islands tend to go dormant long before they fall back into the ocean. Plants and animals evolved on Hawaiian Islands that are long forgotten now. The islands we know are only part of the chain.
Hawaii's a cool place.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Cervantes]
#10657035 - 07/11/09 08:13 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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what kind of strain is "shooting stars" from earths tounge?
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: evl]
#10657842 - 07/11/09 11:21 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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It is a Keeper Brand cube. See the entry for Keeper in the first few posts of this thread.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Cervantes]
#10658140 - 07/11/09 12:15 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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It is a Keeper Brand cube. See the entry for Keeper in the first few posts of this thread.
whats keeper? just a gerneic name for someone who stole someone elses credit?
are they even any good?
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: evl]
#10658204 - 07/11/09 12:28 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Uhhhhhhhh....
Again, read the entry for Keeper Brand Cubes in the first few posts of this thread.
Your answer is in the POSTS YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO READ before posting in this thread.
Shooting Stars are CUBES, and not a hybrid.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: evl]
#10658276 - 07/11/09 12:41 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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what kind of strain is "shooting stars" from earths tounge?
I have a print of these that were had from The Hawks Eye. I see that he has run out as of now. I do plan on letting these have a comeback and send prints to workman so Sporeworks can stick it up the Keepers ass a bit more too.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: mister]
#10660011 - 07/11/09 06:33 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just wanted to add a cool characteristic of PFC's their veil is so microscopically thin that is disappears shortly after the veil breaks.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: hyphae]
#10661194 - 07/11/09 11:12 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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so i need some hlp ..im ordering a syringe from ralphster so im getting the sotm obviously and its argentina..anyone know anything about that?.. and im choosing between cambodian and acadian coast..any incite on that??
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