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Another ID Request on shrroms found in Vic, Australia.
    #10640054 - 07/08/09 02:54 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Habitat:
forest floor

Gills:
pretty seperated. a lighter colour but definately not white.

Stem:
thin and tall.

Cap:
brown with hints of white. browner in the middle then gets whiter.

Spore print color:
on request.

Bruising:
no bruising observed.




thanks.

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Re: Another ID Request on shrroms found in Vic, Australia. [Re: NoobShroomer]
    #10640060 - 07/08/09 02:59 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

These photos are waaaaay over exposed! 

And as for the spore print "on request", you'll need to do it NOW if you are going to do one at all.  Only fresh mushrooms drop spores, not dried ones, and these are so small that they will dry up within a few short hours if they have not already.

If I had to take a stab I'd say Mycena.


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Re: Another ID Request on shrroms found in Vic, Australia. [Re: CureCat]
    #10640067 - 07/08/09 03:06 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

okay. I just thought because their are so few active  species that grow here, that if it was active it would be easy to identify. And if not I could do a spore print.

If this is a certain non-active then I'll throw these too.

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Re: Another ID Request on shrroms found in Vic, Australia. [Re: NoobShroomer]
    #10640070 - 07/08/09 03:10 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

If you do a simple search for the name "Mycena" you will quickly realize that the genus does not contain active species.

If you just want to know whether your mushrooms are active or not, you may say so in your original post. 
I can't tell you exactly what they are, but I can immediately tell you that they are not any active species. 
If you state your intent clearly, you can cut to the chase and get a quick answer.

Though, if you don't take any interest in mushrooms which don't get you high, then you will probably get very bored of looking for them very soon.


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Re: Another ID Request on shrroms found in Vic, Australia. [Re: CureCat]
    #10640077 - 07/08/09 03:14 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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If you do a simple search for the name "Mycena" you will quickly realize that the genus does not contain active species.

If you just want to know whether your mushrooms are active or not, you may say so in your original post. 
I can't tell you exactly what they are, but I can immediately tell you that they are not any active species. 
If you state your intent clearly, you can cut to the chase and get a quick answer.

Though, if you don't take any interest in mushrooms which don't get you high, then you will probably get very bored of looking for them very soon.





nah i actually find them quiet fascinating. last few weeks ive been reading a lot about mushrooms in general rather then psychedelic mushrooms. Only recently I found an interest in them.

I'll keep on looking! and yes I've been googling all the genus names you've given me. thanks for your tips and help.

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Re: Another ID Request on shrroms found in Vic, Australia. [Re: NoobShroomer]
    #10640088 - 07/08/09 03:20 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Rad.  Yeah, don't get discouraged!

Check out some of the Official AU threads too!  I think it is the right season for P. subaeruginosa right now, but make sure before you spend months looking during the wrong season.


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Re: Another ID Request on shrroms found in Vic, Australia. [Re: CureCat]
    #10640118 - 07/08/09 03:52 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Not active imo.

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Re: Another ID Request on shrroms found in Vic, Australia. [Re: CureCat]
    #10641555 - 07/08/09 12:05 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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If you do a simple search for the name "Mycena" you will quickly realize that the genus does not contain active species.




What about these? Mycena cyanorrhiza
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycena_cyanorrhiza
http://home.online.no/~araronse/Mycenakey/cyanorrhiza.htm

The first sight doesn't have much info but mentions the presence of psilocybin.  the second page has more info and pics for identification and links to a few other blue staining Mycena species but no mention of whether they're possibly active. is this bad/outdated info, or could Mycena be a genus worth looking into more?

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Re: Another ID Request on shrroms found in Vic, Australia. [Re: vabluefooter]
    #10641590 - 07/08/09 12:13 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

There are some reports that some Mycena species are active, but I don't consider any of them reliable.

Some species of Mycena contain muscarine, which I guess isn't the worst toxin in the world if you just have a little bit.

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Re: Another ID Request on shrroms found in Vic, Australia. [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #10641652 - 07/08/09 12:25 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

so they're kinda like the reports of active psathyrella sp., people have made claims but there is no real proof of it?  I'd rather avoid toxins all together.

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Re: Another ID Request on shrroms found in Vic, Australia. [Re: vabluefooter]
    #10641690 - 07/08/09 12:33 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

They are much more reliable than the reports of an active Psathyrella. 

There are real scientists that say some Mycenas are active.  I don't really believe them though.

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Re: Another ID Request on shrroms found in Vic, Australia. [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #10642653 - 07/08/09 03:53 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, I've asked Else and Dennis about the bluing Mycena species and they say there is no real evidence that any are active.

Active Psathyrella??  That'd be awesome, though totally unlikely.

Any reports of active Psathyrella are probably due to the synonym for Panaeolina foenisecii (i.e. Psathyrella foenisecii), and the mistaken identity of Panaeolus cinctulus as P. foenisecii, thus leading to a false positive of the presence of psilocybin in P. foenisecii (aka Psathyrella foenisecii).


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