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kaneabel
getting my feet wet
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Re: Lets Talk about spawned substrates [Re: feelingfunny]
#10609506 - 07/02/09 12:19 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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feelingfunny: pm sent
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DEOXYShiitakes
Grain of Time
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Re: Lets Talk about spawned substrates [Re: Cyber]
#10609683 - 07/02/09 12:56 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Cyber said: What I am saying is that straight coir, not coir with coffee, not coir with poo, just coir and water when spawned at 1:2 (1 spawn:2 coir) does not produce as well as fruiting 100% wbs. So if 100% of the nutrition is WBS and it does better than if 1/3 of the mix is wbs and 2/3 of it is coir then coir can not be adding that much nutrition to the mix. It would also lead me to believe that the nutrition is coming from the WBS and the coir is more of a fluffing agent.
When you have done coir grows was it just coir? or did you add stuff like coffee, compost tea, etc that added nutrients to the mix? On top of that what was your output? Did you measure it? Has anyone other than me even done tests and measured the output?
I am open if some one can prove me wrong, That is one reason I posted the outputs and the standards I used. So that others can repeat my tests. It will confirm or deny what I am saying. That is the basis of science.
That is VERY TRUE I found in all MY experiments that If you do NOT spawn and you case, you MUST have a small layer for best results!!!!
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kaneabel
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feelingfunny: Have you started seeing pinning yet?
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feelingfunny
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Re: Lets Talk about spawned substrates [Re: kaneabel]
#10609740 - 07/02/09 01:08 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I just added my casing layers the day before yesterday and yesterday. Still a few days out.
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eric111e
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Re: Lets Talk about spawned substrates [Re: feelingfunny]
#10609947 - 07/02/09 01:41 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have 30 jars fully colonized of golden teacher and Im ready to spawn them to a bulk substrate. I have straw, coffee, and coir. Should i mix all three? And can someone help me with a good ratio
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Psuper
Psilocybin
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Re: Lets Talk about spawned substrates [Re: eric111e]
#10610123 - 07/02/09 02:14 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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eric111e said: I have 30 jars fully colonized of golden teacher and Im ready to spawn them to a bulk substrate. I have straw, coffee, and coir. Should i mix all three? And can someone help me with a good ratio
You could mix all three, sure. I use fresh coffee grounds at up to 20%. RR says 33% max; I don't go that high. You can use however much coir or straw you want. Get ahold of some gypsum and add that to your substrate as well(at up to %10). ~Pixie~
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Lucid_Euphoria
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Re: Lets Talk about spawned substrates [Re: Psuper]
#10611202 - 07/02/09 05:48 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm currently working with a substrate of: Coir, Worm Castings, Coffee Grounds, Horse Poo, Gypsum & Vermiculite
I haven't worked out the best ratios yet though.
I'm thinking: 40% Coir 25% Coffee 10% Worm Castings 10% Horse Poo 10% Vermiculite 5% Gypsum
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