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 Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed 
#10607081 - 07/01/09 11:54 PM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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Cannabis 'is not harmless' warns coroner after drug use triggers teenager's fatal fit
By Daily Mail Reporter, Mail Online
Last updated at 5:50 PM on 01st July 2009
A coroner has condemned claims that smoking cannabis is 'harmless' after hearing how it triggered the death of a teenager who had given up smoking the drug.
Cheshire deputy coroner Geoff Roberts said it was a misconception to think cannabis was safe to use after it directly led to the death of teenager Adie Gardner.
The 17-year-old suffered a fatal seizure in front of his father in October last year just months after quitting cannabis to take up his first ever job.
Doctors who examined the the trainee chef's body confirmed Adie had not taken cannabis in the run up to his death.
But the coroner heard how his body had been ravaged so badly by the effects of his past misuse that it killed him.
An inquest in Macclesfield, Cheshire, was told Adie had fallen victim to a 'legacy' of using the drug in the past .
Mr Roberts said: 'People use cannabis and think it is a harmless property. But we have heard clear evidence in this case that it is not.
'Very sadly this young man died as a result of the direct toxic effects on the heart that the use of cannabis had, as such it was an avoidable death.'
Mr Roberts ruled Adie's death was caused as a result of using drugs.
The coroner added the teenager had used cannabis over a period of time and that his death was all the more tragic as he had given up the drug and was turning his life around.
'This is a very sad case because despite his turbulent past and cannabis use, he had got a job as a trainee chef,' the coroner said.
'The post mortem showed no findings of recent drug use. But his body was left with a legacy of using cannabis in the past which directly led to his death.'
Adie, whose real name was Hadrian, led a 'turbulent' life taking drugs and was expelled from the former 1,000 puil Henbury High comprehensive school, the coroner was told.
The teenager had suffered a heart attack the year before his death, but had vowed to turn his life round after being offered a place on a scheme run by Cheshire Fire Service aimed at 'hard to reach' youngsters.
He visited fire stations and learned how to be good citizen before taking a 'big step forward' in taking a job as a trainee chef at Prestbury Village Restaurant.
He died in October last year on only his second day at work.
Adie's father, Robert Gardner, told the inquest he was waiting to pick his son up from the Village Restaurant when his son began to fit.
He told the hearing: 'He came out of the restaurant, crossed the triangular piece of grass and then stumbled and fell on the pavement.
'It was a bit surreal. He fitted for about ten seconds.'
Paramedics rushed to the scene but battled in vain to save him and he was later pronounced dead at Macclesfield Hospital.
Dr Mark Nicol, who treated the teenager at Macclesfield A&E, said in his report that the case was 'unique' as he had been admitted to A&E in 2007 after suffering a heart attack. On that occasion, doctors were able to revive him.
Dr Nicol said, 'Drug problems were acknowledged at that time. This case highlights that Cannabis is potentially life threatening.
Dr Sally Hales, who carried out the post mortem, said in her report to the coroner that there were no traces of cannabis or other illegal drugs in Adie's body when he died.
Dr Hales examined the heart and concluded the teenager had myocarditis - an inflammation of the heart.
She said 'a history of using cannabis, amphetamines and cocaine would appear to be the most likely cause' of the teenager's death.
After the inquest, Adie's former boss at the Prestbury Village Restaurant paid tribute to the youngster.
Manager Rick Palmer said: 'He was a nice lad who worked hard. He was reliable, no trouble and good to work with. His death was a total shock to us all.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196770/Cannabis-harmless-warns-coroner-drug-use-triggers-teenagers-fatal-fit.html
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 Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: Coaster]
#10607134 - 07/02/09 12:05 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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Wtf? Thats the most ridiculous bullshit ive ever heard. And I guarantee the news is gonna eat this up and people are gonna believe it.
100 bucks to whoever curb stomps that coroner.
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: Coaster]
#10607140 - 07/02/09 12:07 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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OMFG. I cannot even believe this. This is one of the most ridiculous piece of "news" ever written. It makes me want to go fucking kill people.
I just hope that nobody believes this piece anti-drug bullshit. They are trying more and more drastic measures, and more and more ridiculous stories to keep such a harmless plant illegal.
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: Coaster]
#10607162 - 07/02/09 12:11 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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When I saw the headline, I just knew it had to be out of the UK. It seems papers from the UK, especially the Daily Mail, spews this nonsense.
The kid showed no evidence of current drug use, previously used meth and coke, and had a prior heart attack. It is irresponsible of the coroner to make such statement regarding cannabis and for the paper to print it. 
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: veggie]
#10607190 - 07/02/09 12:17 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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sounds like the coroner had mal-intention up his coat
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: Coaster]
#10607369 - 07/02/09 12:59 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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Oh, so they've finally found the first actual pot-related death, EVER? My fucking ass on a stake! *giggles himself out of the room*
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: emeryg89]
#10607526 - 07/02/09 01:31 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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Wow, so he died because he didn't smoke pot? 
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: Coaster]
#10607726 - 07/02/09 02:14 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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Quote:
Coaster said:
But the coroner heard how his body had been ravaged so badly by the effects of his past misuse that it killed him.
'Very sadly this young man died as a result of the direct toxic effects on the heart that the use of cannabis had, as such it was an avoidable death.'
Nice try whoever paid the coroner to say that shit.
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: Coaster]
#10607752 - 07/02/09 02:23 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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WTF. The coroner should be fired for being a dumbass. The reporter should be fired for being a dumbass and I feel like a dumbass for wasting my time reading that propaganda.
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: lumibles]
#10607859 - 07/02/09 03:06 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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This makes it sound like Coke and Meth have no effect on his death and it is all the Weeds fault. I wonder if the coroner thinks he would have lived if he was still smoking Weed. This kind of sh!+ just pisses me off.
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: sloppy]
#10607993 - 07/02/09 04:28 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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She said 'a history of using cannabis, amphetamines and cocaine would appear to be the most likely cause' of the teenager's death
and they blame cannabis. where do they make this shit up.
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: ShroomerRoss]
#10608134 - 07/02/09 06:04 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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Im so glad I dont live in the UK.
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: TTT]
#10608255 - 07/02/09 07:01 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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Bullshit.
Enough said.
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: Mataspore]
#10608368 - 07/02/09 07:23 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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Blame it on the amphetamine and cocaine! He might have had a weak heart and a genetic disposition for strokes, seizures or heart attacks. Weed is mostly smoked together with tobacco, which does not improve the situation either. Hemp oil for example would never have such an impact, on the contrary it might have even cured his disposition!
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: PsychonautsLog]
#10608522 - 07/02/09 08:03 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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Thoroughly disgusted after reading that..
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: PsilocybinMike]
#10608660 - 07/02/09 08:51 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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someone really, REALLY, needs to reevaluate this mans qualifications.
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: clorox]
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: veggie]
#10609314 - 07/02/09 11:41 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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Quote:
veggie said:
When I saw the headline, I just knew it had to be out of the UK. It seems papers from the UK, especially the Daily Mail, spews this nonsense.
The kid showed no evidence of current drug use, previously used meth and coke, and had a prior heart attack. It is irresponsible of the coroner to make such statement regarding cannabis and for the paper to print it.
you said it before i could.
oh that good ol' UK media. 
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: johnnyblaze2316]
#10609341 - 07/02/09 11:46 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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Geoff Roberts
1 Park House Lane
Prestbury
Macclesfield
Cheshire
SK10 4HZ
01625 828 702
Alternate: 01625 428 903
To dial 01625 fro the us I believe you must first enter the international code +44 and then remove the proceeding "0" from the number. I have no promises that this info is correct, but I've got two addresses and phone numbers, one is his office the other is his home. I haven't called the son of a bitch yet, I'm waiting to be super medicated so I don't get angry.
At the very least:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/feedback.html
Please request the daily mail shuts the fuck up about these lies.
Edited by coloradocannabis (07/02/09 12:08 PM)
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: coloradocannabis]
#10609504 - 07/02/09 12:19 PM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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 what to do with the number and address
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: bbl337]
#10609518 - 07/02/09 12:23 PM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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Don't hurt anybody. I take no responsibility if that happens, I was just thinking of flame mail/calls. Kinda like a dog to kick when you're angry. This guy is going to get used to my 2AM phone calls talking about how i might be dieing of a marijuana overdose and I need his mum (I just called his cell, it works. Dunno about the house yet).
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: bbl337]
#10609534 - 07/02/09 12:27 PM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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i think everyone needs to contact him and give him a few facts and ask him how he came to the conclusion that cannabis killed him.
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: ShroomerRoss]
#10609540 - 07/02/09 12:28 PM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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i jsut tried the first number and he answered but the we got cut off.
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: ShroomerRoss]
#10609561 - 07/02/09 12:33 PM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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Did you at least get to call him a dirty cunt?
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: bbl337]
#10610040 - 07/02/09 01:59 PM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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You all might think, that it was the meth or coke that destroyed his heart, and killed him, but you are all mistaken.
Paragraph 3 states clearly, that going to his first job is what killed him. He was allergic to working, and it did him in!
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: bbl337]
#10610171 - 07/02/09 02:25 PM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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Quote:
Geoff Roberts
1 Park House Lane
Prestbury
Macclesfield
Cheshire
SK10 4HZ
01625 828 702
Alternate: 01625 428 903
To dial 01625 fro the us I believe you must first enter the international code +44 and then remove the proceeding "0" from the number. I have no promises that this info is correct, but I've got two addresses and phone numbers, one is his office the other is his home.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! What iiiiiff.... someone accidentally tipped-off the ATF or DEA, of Geoff Roberts, (AKA:The Crack-Massu)new underground location? Let the world-wide policia know, that this fukker is wicked, like Kaiser fukking Sorze`!!! I heard that Crack  Massu, is an international, young-boy deals only, sex slave trafficer and a king-pin supplier of bootleg 8-track BeeGee tapes!
God, I kind of feel a little sorry for this coronar sometimes. Not in an empathetic way, just in the, "What the fuck were you thinking?!" Was he thinking that he could help the prohibition? I bet he thinks he's just such a fukking righteous dude. "I can score with all of the fat, brown toothed, UK blimps now!"
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: jwes420]
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Did you at least get to call him a dirty cunt?
 unfortunatley not 
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: bbl337]
#10611104 - 07/02/09 05:28 PM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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That was a good article, i know now i should never stop smoking weed.
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: bbl337]
#10611124 - 07/02/09 05:33 PM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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propaganda
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: bbl337]
#10611543 - 07/02/09 06:52 PM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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edit: LOL jk, i sure say some crazy thangs
Edited by I AM SWIM (07/02/09 09:28 PM)
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: I AM SWIM]
#10611588 - 07/02/09 07:04 PM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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make him stop smoking weed
thatll kill him fer sure
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: Coaster]
#10612755 - 07/02/09 11:24 PM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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What a piece of shit excuse for a human being...
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Re: Coroner claims weed trigged this guys seizure, killing him months after he quit weed [Re: Coaster]
#10612762 - 07/02/09 11:26 PM (4 months, 17 days ago) |
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This article is all just beyond ridiculous - it's blatantly self defeating to anybody with an ounce of intelligence, but still the media twists words and spreads misinformation to keep the masses ignorant.
This particularly rubbed me the wrong way:
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He visited fire stations and learned how to be good citizen
What BS, it just reeks with condescension
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