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NC psilocybe naematoliformis
    #10553842 - 06/22/09 04:05 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

good news for all of us north carolina hunters. I know we dont have many actives here ,  or they dont get found much. But the psilocybe gods have had great mercy on us my spreading upon our activeless grounds ,a new psilocybe. it is Psilocybe naematoliformis.
    5 or 6 days ago i was searching forums and found a post from MeAshrooma with naematoliformis in Piedmont NC(where i am) i studied this and the posts from weiliiii( he was the first to find naematoliformis in the US in georgia)(it is from mexico) and so when the naematoliformis got to georgia, it encountere all the weilis , and they said' "we got this area covered.  why dont you head to north carolina, they need some help over there. "  But i studied these posts and i was excited and felt like i was going to find them soon. and the next day i went out on a trail i usually go on, and they were the first thing i found.  there were hundreds of them, like the other posts, in woodchips with sandy soil. ihave been hunting mushrooms for a while and feel safe with my ability to recognize macroscopic qualities and i know these are the ones in weiliiiis and MeAshroomas posts. many had the yellow/carmel in the middle of the cap with darker outside. many had the spikey nipple. many bruising very dark immediatly . hard to tell if it was blue because it blended in with the brown stem, but later some were clearly blue. no cap larger than a penny. dark brown spore print with a hint of purple. the spores on tops of some caps looked very purple. They were in the fridge a for a couple days then i got a nice camera and took many good pics and was going to post them but i saw you have to be a supporter. i dont have a credit card but if i can mail a check or money order then i might become a supporter and then i can post my pics. But NC hunters and surrounding hunters dont lose hope. study these naematoliformis and go look for old wood chips.


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Re: NC psilocybe naematoliformis [Re: jahdothat44]
    #10553920 - 06/22/09 04:21 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

cool.


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Re: NC psilocybe naematoliformis [Re: jahdothat44]
    #10553930 - 06/22/09 04:22 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

nice finds man!


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Re: NC psilocybe naematoliformis [Re: jahdothat44]
    #10553969 - 06/22/09 04:29 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: NC psilocybe naematoliformis [Re: jahdothat44]
    #10554035 - 06/22/09 04:41 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

MeAshrooma's collection was determined to not be the same as the Georgia Psilocybe naematoliformis, even though it does look similar.  The MeAshrooma collection is most similar to Psilocybe plutonia.  You can compare the microscopic features in the links below.

http://www.sporeworksgallery.com/Cordisporae/Psilocybe_plutonia_North_Carolina

http://www.sporeworksgallery.com/Neocaledonicae/Psilocybe_naematoliformis_2008


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Re: NC psilocybe naematoliformis [Re: jahdothat44]
    #10554099 - 06/22/09 04:51 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

You'll wanna take a spore print.


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Re: NC psilocybe naematoliformis [Re: jahdothat44]
    #10554112 - 06/22/09 04:53 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

yes its those in the link . and so it is psilocibe plutonia or what that was. that was how they looked when fresh. maybee since you were able to access my pics i can try to upload more with bluing ect.


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Re: NC psilocybe naematoliformis [Re: jahdothat44]
    #10554183 - 06/22/09 05:06 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

Gumby was the first to find this species (naematoliformis) in GA I believe.


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Re: NC psilocybe naematoliformis [Re: jahdothat44]
    #10554192 - 06/22/09 05:06 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

You will definitely want to take prints and save some samples for later microscopic examination since its difficult to identify this species by photos alone.  Psilocybe plutonia is not officially known in NC and I don't know if the NC material was ever tested for activity.

Assuming you have the same species, it will be only the second time it has been collected.  There is nothing in the literature and only the previous Shroomery post to document it.  Without microscopic examination it would have merely been another collection of P. naematoliformis.


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Re: NC psilocybe naematoliformis [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #10554197 - 06/22/09 05:07 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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Gumby was the first to find this species (naematoliformis) in GA I believe.




That's right.


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Re: NC psilocybe naematoliformis [Re: jahdothat44]
    #10554215 - 06/22/09 05:10 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: NC psilocybe naematoliformis [Re: Workman]
    #10554238 - 06/22/09 05:13 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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and I don't know if the NC material was ever tested for activity.



I remember you testing them on indole test strips and they came up negative for psilocin/psilocybin, you sent me the info on it, ill see if I can dig it up.


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Re: NC psilocybe naematoliformis [Re: jahdothat44]
    #10554361 - 06/22/09 05:29 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: NC psilocybe naematoliformis [Re: jahdothat44]
    #10554442 - 06/22/09 05:43 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

i dont know much about the microscopic technical part of mushrooms and you cant make hybrids right? But it seems interesting that naematoliformis came from mexico brick red and now has a color of many weilis. and then soon after a very simular mushroom is in north carolina


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Re: NC psilocybe naematoliformis [Re: jahdothat44]
    #10554580 - 06/22/09 06:07 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

Do you have any pictures of fresh specimens?


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Re: NC psilocybe naematoliformis [Re: Chaos_ultt]
    #10554647 - 06/22/09 06:20 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

no fresh specimens but they looked like the ones in the link at the top for psilocybe plutonia


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Re: NC psilocybe naematoliformis [Re: jahdothat44]
    #10554791 - 06/22/09 06:44 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

and its also interesting that some of mushrooms found in the southeast only are often tinted green ( caerulipes , weilii ,  ovoisidia)


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    #10554982 - 06/22/09 07:13 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: NC psilocybe naematoliformis [Re: jahdothat44]
    #10555460 - 06/22/09 08:40 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

hmm not sure they are the same, to dry to really know only a microscopic  examination can decide.


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Re: NC psilocybe naematoliformis [Re: jahdothat44]
    #18500356 - 07/02/13 02:46 AM (1 year, 26 days ago)

i was walking trough my yard and i walked over an old ground down tree stump and found some mushrooms do you think you could help me identify them? i have a pic on my page


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