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 Latenightdrunks
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 Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
#10439242 - 06/02/09 12:04 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Cool poll idea, 9/10.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
#10440214 - 06/02/09 07:41 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: ben9nine]
#10440433 - 06/02/09 08:49 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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That's the fakest shit i ever seen. Took a tiny hit and held it for only bout 10 seconds.... and was combing through the turn around in the corner? Looks fucking fake to me
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10466241 - 06/07/09 01:43 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have a history of psychological illness, namely depression and panic/rage attacks (which are short-lived and nonviolent, but terrible nonetheless). My previous psychedelic experiences helped contribute to their healing, but my latest shroom trip seemed to bring them back with a vengeance. I procured some 5-HTP from a local vegan wellness shop so that these sorts of upheavals can be avoided.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10467927 - 06/07/09 07:50 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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great poll. it confirmed most of what i already believed about psychedelics. 
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: tittysnacks74]
#10495924 - 06/12/09 06:39 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
tittysnacks74 said:
I have a history of psychological illness, namely depression and panic/rage attacks (which are short-lived and nonviolent, but terrible nonetheless). My previous psychedelic experiences helped contribute to their healing, but my latest shroom trip seemed to bring them back with a vengeance. I procured some 5-HTP from a local vegan wellness shop so that these sorts of upheavals can be avoided.
I don't think 5-HTP will do much for avoiding these trips, as serotonin is not the cause for them in the first place. I've eaten 5HTP before a trip to help me get in a better mood, and I nonetheless had a very difficult trip. Set and setting.. make sure you're mentally prepared. Shrooms can indeed heal...
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: showme]
#10499756 - 06/13/09 12:29 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Excellent poll
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Justice_Fish]
#10499831 - 06/13/09 12:48 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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cool poll...
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I must not fear. Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain - Litany against Fear - Dune
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
#10508708 - 06/15/09 02:17 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ok so I can see the majority of people are not adversely effected by psychedelics as far as mental disorders.
What are your findings regarding DMT and mental disorders? I read a post that essentially said most things that trigger mental disorders may eventually occur with or without psychedelics, and that these drugs may just make you get there sooner. Please understand I mean a mental disorder to be something known and identifiable, not just "crazy thoughts".
I tried it, I and I enjoyed it. Did not loose consciousness and experience any dream like or God like hallucinations. I felt numb and disassociated w/ very psych visuals. I feel I approached the door.
My girlfriend's roommate tried it a couple times and basically went crazy. He hears voices and he is paranoid. My girl friend and I think that his insanity was caused by regular paranoia about his plants and getting caught on top of breaking up with his girl friend.
Even with this info I want to cross the threshold and pass out on DMT. I feel that my mind is strong and fluid enough to handle an intense DMT trip without being permanently effected i.e. mental disorder (not just crazy thoughts like I often have, but a disorder in where one cannot function by himself, or communicate socially).
Just tonight I talked to my friend from Humboldt who informed me that his friend had recently obtained a mental disorder after smoking a strong dose of DMT. He too felt he could handle any trip, but after six months of working his way up with DMT, he finally snapped, was hospitalized for a week, could not communicate, he would talk in gibberish, and he simply could not function. He is recently becoming better able to communicate. He says the secret he retained was if you give love you get love. It seems like a big risk to get that message, if that kind of mental disorder will occur. Then again who knows what you will see or hear, or if you can bring it back and talk about it with words.
I am now a little timid in trying to cross the threshold. Although I think a little insanity is beautiful, I fear for mine, and my families well being in doing this. On the other hand I feel as if I need to experience altered states of reality and consciousness in order to maintain an interesting life.
Please criticize, give feedback, provide examples, suggest things.
- Josh.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
#10512306 - 06/15/09 04:53 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ok so I read a post where people seem to come to the consensus that when it comes to mental disorders people think that they may occur with or without the drug, because there are too many variables, mental disorder genes, strange situations in your life ect.
Has anyone experienced mental disorders after ingesting DMT specifically? By mental disorders I mean, you are unable to function, (feed yourself for example), or function socially (holding a conversation). Also has anyone reported anything close to this, maybe less severe?
I tried it, I and I enjoyed it. Did not loose consciousness and experience any dream like or God like hallucinations. I felt numb and disassociated w/ very psych visuals. I feel I approached the door.
My girlfriend's roommate tried it a couple times and basically went crazy. He hears voices and he is paranoid. My girl friend and I think that his insanity was caused by regular paranoia about his plants and getting caught on top of breaking up with his girl friend.
Even with this info I want to cross the threshold and pass out on DMT. I feel that my mind is strong and fluid enough to handle an intense DMT trip without being permanently effected i.e. mental disorder (not just crazy thoughts like I often have, but a disorder in where one cannot function by himself, or communicate socially).
Just tonight I talked to my friend from Humboldt who informed me that his friend had recently obtained a mental disorder after smoking a strong dose of DMT. He too felt he could handle any trip, but after six months of working his way up with DMT, he finally snapped, was hospitalized for a week, could not communicate, he would talk in gibberish, and he simply could not function. He is recently becoming better able to communicate. He says the secret he retained was if you give love you get love. It seems like a big risk to get that message, if that kind of mental disorder will occur.
I am now a little timid in trying to cross the threshold. Although I think a little insanity is beautiful, I fear for, mine and my families well being in doing this. On the other hand I feel as if I need to experience altered states of reality and consciousness in order to maintain an interesting life.
Please criticize, give feedback, provide examples, suggest things.
- Josh.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10518429 - 06/16/09 04:13 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Great poll, I find that I was way more capable of handling hard core trips when i was 13 to 17 once I hit 19 id say I was tripping many times a week and eating massive amounts of liquid sucking on vials like lollipops, shortly after that I started to develop some mild psychosis one of my boys shot some dude in the head and killed him dude got life and shit got crazy I freaked out and didn't leave the house for months but I started to feel people were talking about me and it seemed like everyone was looking at me after a few months I was fine again. But to this day i still experience some anxiety if I don't have weed sometimes ill have a panic attack but if i puff it goes away. As for people getting permanently wacked I know of several two of my best friends went nuts one went to the loony bin he got better and just a few weeks ago started going to shows again and tripping now hes right back to being crazy as fuck (which is a shame) he has a wife and 8 year old daughter in a terrible situation right now. And two sisters that went completely crazy and still are, and a few other people. People should study their family history extensively to make sure theirs no underlying mental illness I would say in 95% of the people I know have a family history of mental illness and tripping themselves brings it out. So kids get educated about what the fuck your putting in your body and know your body and mind also remember its just a drug and some point you will come down 
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: pasucks]
#10519751 - 06/16/09 08:11 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've definitely had some extremely adverse affects from overuse. I say "extremely" in comparison to the "zero" that people on this forum would have you believe exist. I also want to stress that this came from CLEAR abuse. There were warning signs that my brain chemicals weren't handling all the topsy-turvy abstraction too well, and I ignored them.
I'll put it this way: At the point where you find yourself worrying about insanity, it's probably a concern. Someone having perfectly wonderful psychedelic experiences, coming down normally, and functioning as they always have in perfect sobriety doesn't start worrying about psychosis. Your brain gives you signs. Listen to that shit. You'll know when it's time to trip, and you'll know when you need to take a nice, long break.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Germican]
#10519775 - 06/16/09 08:14 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mad cognitive shifts, son.
On a side note, I've seen one trend in this thread, as well as in all the research I've done prior. It seems like once people "snap" (this can be HPPD, anxiety, whatever), re-emerging into the world of psychedelics can cause a re-emergence of their problems, but does not seem to worsen them.
That's very interesting to me. It seems as though, if you find your own breed of mental illness, and come out of it a functioning member of society instead of an addition to a mental ward, then at least you know the worst case scenario.
This is just an observation, mind you, not a conclusion.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Ophanim]
#10523909 - 06/17/09 01:05 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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On a side note, I've seen one trend in this thread, as well as in all the research I've done prior. It seems like once people "snap" (this can be HPPD, anxiety, whatever), re-emerging into the world of psychedelics can cause a re-emergence of their problems, but does not seem to worsen them.
That's very interesting to me. It seems as though, if you find your own breed of mental illness, and come out of it a functioning member of society instead of an addition to a mental ward, then at least you know the worst case scenario.
This is just an observation, mind you, not a conclusion.
I disagree. My own research in hppdforums, f.e. show that there's is significant worsening of effects with re-emerging in psychedelics, and even though in most of the cases this doesn't last too long, in some cases the worsening seems permanent
Nice to seesuch a poll, AT LAST!!!
Edited by mutant (06/17/09 01:06 PM)
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: mutant]
#10524502 - 06/17/09 02:43 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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mutant said:
I disagree. My own research in hppdforums, f.e. show that there's is significant worsening of effects with re-emerging in psychedelics, and even though in most of the cases this doesn't last too long, in some cases the worsening seems permanent
Nice to seesuch a poll, AT LAST!!!
I think we're talking about different things. It's a given that, in most cases, if you practice complete abstinence, your side effects will weaken or disappear. And it's also likely that, if you return to your old habits, the side effects will also return. However, I don't often hear of them being worse than they were before. That said, perhaps I lumped together "psychedelic side effects" too readily. I don't actually think HPPD is the same sort of problem as anxiety, depression, or psychosis. Those three, I believe, are specifically linked in their cause(s), whereas HPPD only triggers them by association. Obviously this statement doesn't apply if you use the term "HPPD" when referring to any adverse after-effect related to a psychedelic experience.
Edited by Ophanim (06/17/09 03:19 PM)
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Ophanim]
#10540642 - 06/19/09 11:19 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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As a small child and right into my teens I was OCD to a terrible degree. I couldnt even leave the house without performing all kinds of weird counting rituals.I would have total nervous breakdowns because I thought an outside force was controlling my mind. Then when I was 19 I took acid for the first time. OCD completely cured forever. I used acid , shrooms , mescaline heavily for the next 5 or 6 years. I eventually had to stop because the trips were becoming to overwhelming. Im one of those with a backwards metabolism. I never developed a tolerance to it. Quite the opposite. I can sleep on speed, but vicodin, methadone keeps me awake for days.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: mondoharp]
#10541981 - 06/20/09 09:29 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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LSD-->saw the people on CNN warp->they kept looking older and younger and older and younger as if in an infinite cycle of ageing,decaying, and death but all at once.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
#10542107 - 06/20/09 10:04 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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As one of those who selected the "<1,000" option I have to say that I have moderate to strong sensory effects much of the time.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#10545791 - 06/21/09 01:04 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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i'm a person who put <5x (i joined this forum mostly for cultivation tips) so i gotta ask. doesn't it suck not having a full grasp on reality? don't get me wrong, i love to get high or drunk or trip every now and then, but i also love to wake up the next morning and reflect on the previous night's festivities with a clear, sober mind.
do you ever regret doing so many psychedelics?
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I have generalized anxiety and panic attack anxiety directly from my drug use. But i don't think its from the psychedelics, i think it was all the dextroamphetamine. However i can't pin point which one specifically causes my anxiety because i have taken so many drugs and so many combinations of drugs.
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