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Morning glory seeds dose questions.
    #10519643 - 06/16/09 10:47 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

I was planning to buy some morning glory seeds wash them off in soapy water, grind them up and eat them
I want to find a dosage that will give me enough of  trip to have halucenations because I have never done anything but pot and I really want to hallucinate.
I weigh about 120.
How many seeds should I take for a mild trip?
I want to have a good first trip with psychedelics.
So what would be the best dosage of seeds for my first time?


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Re: Morning glory seeds dose questions. [Re: Jack420]
    #10519685 - 06/16/09 10:57 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Wrong. Don't wash them off. Instead grind them up with a coffee grinder then put them in either lemon juice (not lemonade) or DISTILLED water. Shake and add juice or water as needed. the ground up material will absorb a lot of the water. Once you let it sit for a while, at least 1 or 2 days, then you can throw it in a metal strainer and pour distilled water over it so the liquid washes through into a bowl but the solid remains. this may involve some pressing of the glop.

I can't really make a suggestion as to how many seeds to take because all seeds vary, but I would suggest from 500 to 750 seeds for a mild trip. Have fun


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Re: Morning glory seeds dose questions. [Re: Jack420]
    #10519698 - 06/16/09 11:01 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds about right........:).

For a mild dosage....well, the first time SWIM tried MG seeds, SWIM took about 300 and tripped insanely for about 13 hours. But it's really up to you...depending on how much you can handle, SWIM suggests 250-500.


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Re: Morning glory seeds dose questions. [Re: Corrie]
    #10519706 - 06/16/09 11:02 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah is it just me or does LSA last longer than LSD?


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Re: Morning glory seeds dose questions. [Re: silosighbin]
    #10519712 - 06/16/09 11:03 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

The soapy water = for in case there is pestacide on them.... A lot of MG packages are labeled "do not eat this" I would def wash those.

You will probably throw up too.... just so ya know.

Whatever you do.... dont call the ambulance or the cops....

Maybe you should have your mom trip sit for you? Just in case..... 120 pnds??! what are you 12 yrs old? :smile:


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Re: Morning glory seeds dose questions. [Re: silosighbin]
    #10519716 - 06/16/09 11:04 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

I don't suppose there's any point in saying it's all in your head......:)


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Re: Morning glory seeds dose questions. [Re: Shad0w]
    #10519719 - 06/16/09 11:04 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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Shad0w said:
The soapy water = for in case there is pestacide on them.... A lot of MG packages are labeled "do not eat this" I would def wash those.

You will probably throw up too.... just so ya know.

Whatever you do.... dont call the ambulance or the cops....

Maybe you should have your mom trip sit for you? Just in case..... 120 pnds??! what are you 12 yrs old? :smile:




I was 5'7"/115lbs until maybe a year ago when I started smoking mass bud again. now i'm like 5'8"/135lbs... people just have different rates of upward vs sideways growth lol im so high


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Re: Morning glory seeds dose questions. [Re: silosighbin]
    #10519725 - 06/16/09 11:05 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

LoL!

That makes sense tho.... :tongue2:


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Re: Morning glory seeds dose questions. [Re: silosighbin]
    #10519800 - 06/16/09 11:20 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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Wrong. Don't wash them off. Instead grind them up with a coffee grinder then put them in either lemon juice (not lemonade) or DISTILLED water. Shake and add juice or water as needed. the ground up material will absorb a lot of the water. Once you let it sit for a while, at least 1 or 2 days, then you can throw it in a metal strainer and pour distilled water over it so the liquid washes through into a bowl but the solid remains. this may involve some pressing of the glop.

I can't really make a suggestion as to how many seeds to take because all seeds vary, but I would suggest from 500 to 750 seeds for a mild trip. Have fun




500 to 750 seeds for a mild trip?

Before I even got to that, I was gonna say your method is all wrong. No wonder you need 500 to 700

THIS IS THE BEST METHOD

You definitely want to rinse them off with DISTILLED water, not sink water...

then grind them up A LITTLE BIT...not too much, not into fine powder...and make sure not to get them too hot with the grinding

keep them out of the heat and ESPECIALLY out of the light once grinded

then let them sit in some distilled water and orange juice for 35 minutes,

then filter through a small strainer, use a spon to press down on the mush to get as much liquid as you can out...then filter THAT through a coffee filter...mix that with more orange juice, and there you go

make sure to have some good music, try to be outdoors in the daytime if possible, there's NOTHING like it.

trust me this is the best method. Morning Glory is one of my very favs, and one of my highest recommendations for a first time trip, because you might get a whole lot out of the experience

Depending on the quality of seeds, different amounts...try 400 at first maybe, not too much more than that, because if they are really good that's already a strong dose


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Re: Morning glory seeds dose questions. [Re: Jack420]
    #10519812 - 06/16/09 11:22 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Anyhoo, let us know how it goes :evil:.......


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Re: Morning glory seeds dose questions. [Re: Corrie]
    #10525875 - 06/17/09 09:08 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

i want to try this, thanks for that method biz, me and a buddy might try it (no, not first time trippers).


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Re: Morning glory seeds dose questions. [Re: the bizzle]
    #10526785 - 06/17/09 11:07 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Before I even got to that, I was gonna say your method is all wrong. No wonder you need 500 to 700

THIS IS THE BEST METHOD

You definitely want to rinse them off with DISTILLED water, not sink water...

then grind them up A LITTLE BIT...not too much, not into fine powder...and make sure not to get them too hot with the grinding

keep them out of the heat and ESPECIALLY out of the light once grinded

then let them sit in some distilled water and orange juice for 35 minutes,

then filter through a small strainer, use a spon to press down on the mush to get as much liquid as you can out...then filter THAT through a coffee filter...mix that with more orange juice, and there you go

make sure to have some good music, try to be outdoors in the daytime if possible, there's NOTHING like it.

trust me this is the best method. Morning Glory is one of my very favs, and one of my highest recommendations for a first time trip, because you might get a whole lot out of the experience

Depending on the quality of seeds, different amounts...try 400 at first maybe, not too much more than that, because if they are really good that's already a strong dose




I'm planning to go with this meathod
but jw if we take 400
will be be like absolutely trippin out?
because we will be at my friends house
and his parents are home
but we can leave the house whenever we want
so we will still be like
functional enough to walk around and be able to talk to people?


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Re: Morning glory seeds dose questions. [Re: Jack420]
    #10526843 - 06/17/09 11:14 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

its hard to predict with LSA...I've had it get so intense that I couldnt make out anything 3 feet in front of me, everything was condensed into one point in the center of my vision, like the light at the end of the tunnel...I've had some pretty wild hallucinations on it too, like actual hallucinations, puddles of blood everywhere where there really wasnt, my eyes facing different directions, women in a park making sexual motions that they definitely werent, etc

its really hard to say. It can be pretty mild too, and the best thing about it is that for how crazy it gets, you still have more mental clarity than most other hallucinogens, but I guess that's if you know how to distinguish what is insanity. One thing about it though is it doesnt necessarily lend itself to walking around, because you might feel weak in the legs...its still definitely possible though

If your friend's parents are home, there is definitely no way to hide your humongous pupils and bloodshot eyes (even without weed).

It's awesome though...I think I just inspired myself to take some soon :smile:

And like I keep trying to say...NOTHING compares to morning glory outdoors in the daytime...you will understand why they were referred to as the sun gods...unlike most hallucinogens these seem like they were made specifically for daytime...and music is absolutely unbelievable...I recommend the Doors and Syd Barrett (and the album Piper at the Gates of Dawn)...and Acid Bath if you can handle heavy music


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Re: Morning glory seeds dose questions. [Re: the bizzle]
    #10527529 - 06/18/09 01:07 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

shitt dude, now i can't wait
puddles of blood everywhere sounds pretty scary haha
is there anything like to prepare?
because i have herd several stories of people taking these and they end up like just having the worst trip and tweeking out and end up calling the cops.
So anything to prepare for a good trip?
I really don't want to end up being one of those people :p
and one more thing
how intense is it compared to lsd?
like sayyy 400 seads


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Re: Morning glory seeds dose questions. [Re: Jack420]
    #10527879 - 06/18/09 02:19 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

it's every bit as intense as LSD, except you can think a little more clearly

-take some ginger root beforehand to reduce nausea
-have an empty stomach
-good diet, stay away from oily greasy crappy foods
-make sure to drink it with OJ
-have some oranges to chew on during your trip (which can sometimes be THE key to making it kick in)
-have psychedelic music (the doors, Piper at the Gates of Dawn, syd barrett)
-dont smoke cigarettes/tobacco/blunts after you take it
-you dont need weed
-try to be outdoors in the daytime, trust me its incredible
-take it when you are well rested so that you are awake for the best part of the trip
- be in a comfortable environment (very important)
- try to learn from it, remember that as crazy as it gets, it is only showing you yourself, which you need to have a humble attitude towards realizing, the only thing that can make it bad is being in a bad environment
-do NOT call the cops, for god's sake
-be in a good state of mind when you do it, dont be in a rush to do it


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Re: Morning glory seeds dose questions. [Re: the bizzle]
    #10527896 - 06/18/09 02:23 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

No weed for the nausea?
herd that helps
even if its just like 2 hits
or will it ruin the experience


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Re: Morning glory seeds dose questions. [Re: Jack420]
    #10528042 - 06/18/09 02:53 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

it can help the nausea, when you first take it

It doesn't ruin the experience, some people say it enhances it, but I think that mostly applies to when the dose wasn't strong enough. As pro-weed as I am, I feel like it clouds some of the lessons MG has to teach. If you smoke some when you first take it to help with nausea, I'm sure it wont make that much of a difference, and for after the peak too is good

Morning Glory actually showed me what the energy of weed really is (which, dont get me wrong, can be a profound trip in its own right, especially when used only occasionally)...I can't explain, but I feel like weed is not necessary with it, and clouds some of its lessons.
It's not necessary to smoke with it, it'll make you feel more stoned then you've ever been...and then more...and then more...

weed with it can definitely be good, but so can seeing what its like on its own


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Re: Morning glory seeds dose questions. [Re: the bizzle]
    #10534683 - 06/19/09 04:00 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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it's every bit as intense as LSD, except you can think a little more clearly




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Re: Morning glory seeds dose questions. [Re: the bizzle]
    #10534987 - 06/19/09 05:58 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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then grind them up A LITTLE BIT...not too much, not into fine powder...and make sure not to get them too hot with the grinding

keep them out of the heat and ESPECIALLY out of the light once grinded



why not into a fine powder? seems like you have more surface then, which makes it easier for the LSA to get into the water.

how bad is a little light (not direct sunlight, but just indoors daytime)?

please elaborate on why this shoulnd't be done, and if you have experience with grinding them to a fine powder and exposing them to light.


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Re: Morning glory seeds dose questions. [Re: stefan]
    #10535094 - 06/19/09 07:33 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

i would just go for the completle LSA extraction.

this is my method...

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