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 chaseonbase
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 P. cyanofriscosa 
#10399706 - 05/26/09 02:29 AM (4 years, 25 days ago) |
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anyone know much about this strain what the best subtrates are?
P. cyanofriscosa
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chillywilly419
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Ralphster said:
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If anyone wants a TEK for this
Email me
Spores@RalphstersSpores.com
or maybe a search for woodlovers...
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libertaire
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The spawn can be started on regular brf cakes or grains just like with cubes, and the resulting spawn can then be moved to alder chips or any other hard wood.
Definitely a search for woodlovers is in order, as anything that applies to a woodlover applies to friscosas.
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chaseonbase said:
anyone know much about this strain what the best subtrates are?
P. cyanofriscosa
P. cyanofriscosa is a species not a strain.
This should be in mushroom cultivation.
Alder or Douglas Fir chips should work fine. Scott's Naturescape woodchips or mulch is a great substrate for the average woodlover. Get the "Sierra Red" color.
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chaseonbase
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P. cyanofriscosa is a species not a strain.
This should be in mushroom cultivation.
Alder or Douglas Fir chips should work fine. Scott's Naturescape woodchips or mulch is a great substrate for the average woodlover. Get the "Sierra Red" color.
thanks man for the correction. I still got alot to learn.
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Electric305
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could one grind the chips to saw dust and mix like pf tek for spawn? 1 part wood 1 part water 2 part verm?
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libertaire
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I've never tried, it, but it sounds like it could work. I'd actually replace the verm with woodchips and leave the brf - 2 parts woodchips, 1 part brf, 1 part water. You still have to sterilize though, especially with brf still in the mix.
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chaseonbase
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I asked ralph about a tek and this is what he sent me. It looks like the guy spawned these off some wood for the good 'ol grill.
http://forums.mycotopia.net/holding-tank/37342-woodlovers-08-a.html
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Electric305
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Would this island technique work with cubes?Like instead o breaking up cakes and crumbling just bury say five pf jars in bulk spawn?
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Workman
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This species is very closely related to Psilocybe cyanescens/P. azurescens and the same techniques for cultivation should apply. As with those species, outdoor methods in the right climate are recommended with few succeeding indoors. I am not sure why Ralph hyped it up as an easy to grow species as it definitely is not when compared to P. cubensis and Panaeolus species. Good luck!
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libertaire
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Would this island technique work with cubes?Like instead o breaking up cakes and crumbling just bury say five pf jars in bulk spawn?
I tried this for a few days on my first attempt at bulk, and it looked like it was working, but I chickened out and ended up breaking them up. I've seen some grows that have done this and it turned out nicely. Lined the bottom of a tray with full cakes and filled in the cracks with coir or manure. Check the archives in mush cult.
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chaseonbase
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this is one of my favorite youtube videos its over a year, and he never posted the fruiting stage. I doubt he got it to fruit but who knows. with that music I doubt it would fruit!
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Re: P. cyanofriscosa [Re: Workman]
#10410317 - 05/27/09 11:08 PM (4 years, 23 days ago) |
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Electric305 said:
Would this island technique work with cubes?Like instead o breaking up cakes and crumbling just bury say five pf jars in bulk spawn?
It works and has been done before but isn't the best way to do things. It would still be better to break up the cakes. More inoculation points makes for faster colonization.
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chaseonbase said:
I still got alot to learn.
This is a great place to learn. Thanks for not being offended by the corrections. 
A lot of people here get all pissy when you correct them. You have the right attitude when it comes to this hobby. Learn as much as you can and then apply it.
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I am not sure why Ralph hyped it up as an easy to grow species as it definitely is not when compared to P. cubensis and Panaeolus species. Good luck!
There's a lot of people who claim Psilocybe cyanescens and their allies are easy to grow. The admins at psychonaut and other sites claim they are the easiest to grow because they will grow on unsterilized woodchips.
Their mistake lies in the fact that while the mycelium may be easy to grow, getting them to fruit indoors is not easy.
It is possible to fruit them indoors though. If you have a basement or cellar that stays at a constant 55f or cooler you may have some success. This isn't fool-proof and assumes the basement/cellar has adequate airflow.
Chase, have you attempted to grow any of the easier species like Psilocybe cubensis yet? If not you may want to start there to get a good grasp on the hobby. Things like proper humidity and airflow are things that each person has to learn to achieve on their own.
What works for me here in the PNW might not work for someone living in Arizona.
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libertaire
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Nor is it true that you can grow them on unsterilized wood chips. I attempted this, just soaking regular wood chips and inoculating with pf cakes, and I was ridden with both trich and cobweb. For whatever reason, once it was completely colonized, and I spawned it to a larger outdoor bed, the myc completely died. Maybe I did something else wrong, but in any case, I got hella contams and ended up with hella nothing. I think next time I'll use a bit of bleach, rather than risk contams again.
They're not easy at all really. At least in my experience.
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I attempted this, just soaking regular wood chips and inoculating with pf cakes, and I was ridden with both trich and cobweb.
I've had the same experience as you. I inoculated with colonized barley but got the same results.
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BlimeyGrimey said:
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Electric305 said:
Would this island technique work with cubes?Like instead o breaking up cakes and crumbling just bury say five pf jars in bulk spawn?
It works and has been done before but isn't the best way to do things. It would still be better to break up the cakes. More inoculation points makes for faster colonization.
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chaseonbase said:
I still got alot to learn.
This is a great place to learn. Thanks for not being offended by the corrections.
A lot of people here get all pissy when you correct them. You have the right attitude when it comes to this hobby. Learn as much as you can and then apply it.
Its all good. Im very opened minded when it comes to learning anything and will take critizm from anyone. Im always open to new ideas, that someone may have. Im very new to mycology as of febuary this year. I attempted my first grow on some rye berries. I used some PES hawaiian it never got to the mycellium stage. I was using sealed jars and didnt allow for gas excahnge. I recently frutied some cambodian and B+ off some BRF cakes. It was all by mistake honestly. I had them in a cooler on a heating pad and got them too hot around 90 degrees and they never fully colonized and after 2 months of waiting, I set them in a Shot gun FC. they grew a ton of cobweb mold and some trichoderma got on 3 cakes. I was going to throw them out but got lazy, and some how they actually fruited. I plan on trying my first monotub. I have some keepers creepers incubating on some BRF cakes At the moment. the monotub Im going to attempt some maldori indian. I still gotta get my airflow figured out before I attempt though.
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OverdoseLiving
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What are you trying to do?
I placed red chips in a container along with colonized chi[s anf got fruits this year..
I even pulled off 4 grows inside pizza boxes
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inski
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Excellent, I'd love to see the pics!
Wood loving species are not so difficult, you just need patience!
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Edited by inski (05/29/09 05:05 AM)
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libertaire
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Re: P. cyanofriscosa [Re: inski]
#10418220 - 05/29/09 09:44 AM (4 years, 22 days ago) |
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As with anything in mycology.
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chaseonbase
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anyone have the break down as far as mycelium culture, pinning and fruiting? like the temp range and climate they need?
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