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 weekend finds from the sierra national forest 
#10356237 - 05/18/09 01:38 AM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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(1)calvatia i believe...
(2)ramaria
(3)?
(4)aleuria aurantia?
(5)tricholoma?
(6)not sure..maybe a tricholoma?, russula?
(7)discina perlata
(8)peziza?
(9) marasmiellus albuscorticis
(10)armillaria mellea
(11)peziza violacea (bad pic)
(12) boletus edulis??
(13) not sure...verpa?
(14) is this the yellow A. muscaria or A. pantherina??
(15) morchella elata, right?
Edited by johnnyblaze2316 (05/18/09 02:10 AM)
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 Re: weekend finds from the sierra national forest [Re: johnnyblaze2316]
#10356243 - 05/18/09 01:39 AM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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I've never heard of marasmiellus albuscorticis but that picture you snapped of them is neato.
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Re: weekend finds from the sierra national forest [Re: EchoEclipse71]
#10356715 - 05/18/09 04:13 AM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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I've never heard of marasmiellus albuscorticis but that picture you snapped of them is neato.
right on....
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Re: weekend finds from the sierra national forest [Re: johnnyblaze2316]
#10356762 - 05/18/09 04:36 AM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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(1)calvatia i believe...
Yea probably. Did you eat it?
2) http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Ramaria_rasilispora_scatesiana.html
I found hundreds of these this weekend.
3) lichen
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(4)aleuria aurantia?
Caloscypha fulgens
I found hundreds of these this weekend.
5 - 6) Tricholoma vernaticum
These have a strong cucumber odor.
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(8)peziza?
I guess.
I found hundreds of these this weekend near morels.
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(11)peziza violacea (bad pic)
http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Sarcosphaera_coronaria.html
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(12) boletus edulis??
http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Boletus_rex-veris.html
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(14) is this the yellow A. muscaria or A. pantherina??
Amanita aprica
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Re: weekend finds from the sierra national forest [Re: johnnyblaze2316]
#10356768 - 05/18/09 04:38 AM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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12) is not Boletus edulis. The pores are way to bright yellow and it looks as if the texture of the cap is rather velvet-like. B. edulis has a smooth and often glossy cap. From what I can see it's also missing the net-like structure on the outside of the stems.
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Re: weekend finds from the sierra national forest [Re: German Kahuna]
#10356794 - 05/18/09 04:47 AM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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You are correct however the reasons you pointed out aren't actual differences between the species. Both B. edulis and B. rex-veris have a cap that is viscid when moist. The pores are the same color, and they both have reticulation on the stem.
The location and time of year is enough to determine that this is rex-veris, there are also some minor macroscopic differences.
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alan thank you very much, i did not eat any puff balls...was going to, i picked afew, but could not definitely id them w/ the books i had. and ya those orange and purple cups were every where. the trich definitely smelled like cucumbers! also, german, the cap was actually smooth and viscid when moist (i washed them), but rex-veris it is for sure. thanks again!
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Re: weekend finds from the sierra national forest [Re: johnnyblaze2316]
#10356826 - 05/18/09 04:56 AM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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alan have you tried this bolete before?
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Alan Rockefeller said:
You are correct however the reasons you pointed out aren't actual differences between the species
Maybe. I was just speaking from my experience of B. edulis having been my main game of edibles here for years. And all the features I described are what I have observed over the years. I've never seen a B. edulis looking anything like that B. rex-veris (which can also be found here). Then again, I am well aware that macroscopic features can vary quite a bit between European and North American varieties of the same species.
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Quote:
Alan Rockefeller said:
You are correct however the reasons you pointed out aren't actual differences between the species. Both B. edulis and B. rex-veris have a cap that is viscid when moist. The pores are the same color, and they both have reticulation on the stem.
The location and time of year is enough to determine that this is rex-veris, there are also some minor macroscopic differences.
I agree, if you were to rely on those differences alone you would end up misidentifying a lot of B. edulis.
I saw a similar pattern numerous times this year with people mistaking B. edulis for B. regineus.
Another distinguishing feature of B. rex-veris which is not exclusive to the species, is the cespitose growth- as seen in the OPs photos.
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Re: weekend finds from the sierra national forest [Re: johnnyblaze2316]
#10356845 - 05/18/09 05:01 AM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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Yes I ate some for lunch today.
I fried a big pan of bacon over a little backpacking stove and put the boletes in at the same time as the bacon. By the time the bacon was done I had cooked the hell out of the boletes and they were awesome.
They are so-so if you eat them raw or cook them a little. They are great if you cook them a lot or dry them. Once I coated them in olive oil or and baked them in the oven. I forgot about them and 45 minutes later they were crispy like potato chips and tasted wonderful.
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Re: weekend finds from the sierra national forest [Re: johnnyblaze2316]
#10356852 - 05/18/09 05:03 AM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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are their any distinct features i should know of that lead you to aprica, or is it just familiarity?..... that "rimmed" volva is a trip too.
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Alan Rockefeller said:
Yes I ate some for lunch today.
I fried a big pan of bacon over a little backpacking stove and put the boletes in at the same time as the bacon. By the time the bacon was done I had cooked the hell out of the boletes and they were awesome.
They are so-so if you eat them raw or cook them a little. They are great if you cook them a lot or dry them. Once I coated them in olive oil or and baked them in the oven. I forgot about them and 45 minutes later they were crispy like potato chips and tasted wonderful.
hell ya
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Re: weekend finds from the sierra national forest [Re: German Kahuna]
#10356857 - 05/18/09 05:06 AM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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Then again, I am well aware that macroscopic features can vary quite a bit between European and North American varieties of the same species.
Or between two populations of the same geographic variety.
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Re: weekend finds from the sierra national forest [Re: CureCat]
#10356865 - 05/18/09 05:09 AM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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Well, all I can say is that I know one when I find one without having to look at the spores under a microscope.
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Re: weekend finds from the sierra national forest [Re: johnnyblaze2316]
#10356870 - 05/18/09 05:13 AM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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are their any distinct features i should know of that lead you to aprica, or is it just familiarity?
I wish I had $1 for every one of these I found today. Debbie Viess says its aprica. It doesn't really look like all the other aprica pics on the net, but its a name and I use it. I asked Rod once and he didn't really have much of an opinion, he said its really hard to say. Seems to me like this taxon is really common in the sierra foothills and unknown everywhere else. Maybe it needs to be described, maybe not. It fruits just before the boletes - in areas that are producing lots of boletes all the A. aprica has recently fruited and dried out.
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its almost 420 here lets smoke and ebowl
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johnnyblaze2316
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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are their any distinct features i should know of that lead you to aprica, or is it just familiarity?
I wish I had $1 for every one of these I found today. Debbie Viess says its aprica. It doesn't really look like all the other aprica pics on the net, but its a name and I use it. I asked Rod once and he didn't really have much of an opinion, he said its really hard to say. Seems to me like this taxon is really common in the sierra foothills and unknown everywhere else. Maybe it needs to be described, maybe not. It fruits just before the boletes - in areas that are producing lots of boletes all the A. aprica has recently fruited and dried out.
hmmmm, ill remember that when im out there.... thanks man
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Re: weekend finds from the sierra national forest [Re: johnnyblaze2316]
#10356907 - 05/18/09 05:27 AM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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You should have gone to the foray this weekend, we found tons of this shit. Don't you check the gathering forum?
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johnnyblaze2316
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You should have gone to the foray this weekend, we found tons of this shit. Don't you check the gathering forum?
nah man.... i seen it but i didnt realize it was for authentic hunts
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wowitch17 said:
its almost 420 here lets smoke and ebowl
you must be looking for the OTD forum..
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