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 Wiccan_Seeker
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 The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll 
#10331418 - 05/13/09 08:43 AM (6 months, 6 days ago) |
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This poll is intended to see how common certain adverse effects of psychedelics are among Shroomerites. There is no real data on adverse effects to psychedelics, as research was banned in the 1960s and before that time pro-drug and anti-drug bias turned research into a propaganda circus. This is factual data gathering into adverse effects to psychedelics, by the community, for the community.
Please interpret the questions objectively and choose the answer best fitting you.
You can see the poll results without voting. Please do not vote when you have never tripped.
Tripping only means Serotonin psychedelics. These are tryptamines (shrooms, DMT, RC's etc), phenethylamines (mescaline, RC's etc) and lysergamides (LSD, Morning Glory etc). It does NOT include weed, MDMA, Ketamine, Dextromethorphan, Salvia, Fly Agaric, Datura, OTC medicines and so forth.
Only write about your experiences with Tryptamine, Phenethylamine and Lysergamide hallucinogens!
If you cannot identify with any of the options given to a good degree, skip that question.
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Edited by Wiccan_Seeker (05/13/09 09:09 AM)
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Justice_Fish
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10331426 - 05/13/09 08:46 AM (6 months, 6 days ago) |
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good poll. i like it
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Wiccan_Seeker
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Justice_Fish]
#10331479 - 05/13/09 09:04 AM (6 months, 6 days ago) |
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Its high time such a poll was done. Most people seem to do well on psychedelics, but if you're an active member for some years here you see some frequency of worrisome misadventures because of shrooms.
And as far as I know, theres next to no 21st century research into this kind of thing. Most of it is from the 1960s, and highly biased pro/anti psychedelics.
This one is by the community, for the community. Each tripping member can post their findings.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10331485 - 05/13/09 09:06 AM (6 months, 6 days ago) |
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does this poll include experiences with saliva as well, just thought id check before i vote.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: ShroomerRoss]
#10331493 - 05/13/09 09:09 AM (6 months, 6 days ago) |
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No salvia! Its a completely different drug. Thanks for checking, I included it in the post.
Edited by Wiccan_Seeker (05/13/09 09:10 AM)
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10331501 - 05/13/09 09:11 AM (6 months, 6 days ago) |
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Interesting poll! Can't wait to see some more results.
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ShroomerRoss
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10331503 - 05/13/09 09:12 AM (6 months, 6 days ago) |
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ok thanks missed that part
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Wiccan_Seeker
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: ShroomerRoss]
#10331505 - 05/13/09 09:12 AM (6 months, 6 days ago) |
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no, I added salvia in response to your question 
As to flashbacks, Salvia to me is of way greater concern that serotonin psychedelics. With my limited salvia experience I had several clearcut Salvia flashbacks - and none on almost 250 trips in 16 years.
Edited by Wiccan_Seeker (05/13/09 09:14 AM)
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Justice_Fish]
#10331518 - 05/13/09 09:17 AM (6 months, 6 days ago) |
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I like the poll. Although I have had what many consider a "bad trip" I have NEVER suffered in any negative manner after a psychedelic experience. Each and every powerful experience showed me something about myself or the world, Many of which was negative. but with every bit of good and bad information, I integrated it into my life in a positive manner.It's not the information you gained from the experience that's most important, its how you integrate it into your life. This is what I contribute to never having long term, adverse affects from tripping. Another thing I contribute to my mindstate is the amount of information I consumed about tripping, long before I put my first tab of LSD under my tongue.
If you have the tools to make a house, but know nothing about house-making, how good will those tools be?
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10331542 - 05/13/09 09:29 AM (6 months, 6 days ago) |
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most of my trips were great. i learned a lot about myself, and i feel overall that it made me a stronger person. tripping really helped me to develop my individuality.
i did have some detrimental effects, though. a few years back i went a little overboard, dosing every weekend, culminating with me ingesting between 25-30 hits at once. 20 minutes after i swallowed them i started to come up, really fast, and i was just like..."holy shit...what am i doing...omg." i lost touch with reality for a while, but most of the trip i was just counting the time until i came down.
i've tripped on shrooms 2 times since, each spaced about 7 months apart, and these were much better experiences. i did notice a definite personality shift (i became more introverted) after that heroic dose, though.
i don't really have any desire to trip anymore, and if i did, i would not want to do it more than once a year. maybe i'll give it a shot at my family gathering next summer out in colorado though.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: JT]
#10331578 - 05/13/09 09:45 AM (6 months, 6 days ago) |
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most of the trip i was just counting the time until i came down.
Oooh man I've been in for the long count myself, theres just not telling what thats like.
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i did notice a definite personality shift (i became more introverted) after that heroic dose (...) i don't really have any desire to trip anymore
You're still integrating the experience I think. Psychedelic experiences that are very intense and excruciating often take months to years to fully settle.
The desire to trip again is your best indicator as to how far the process is underway. Only if you wouldnt mind tripping again, have you fully coped with the experience. Doesn't mean you should trip then, of course.
20 voters - we have our first two people who DIDNT have visuals between trips and the first person to occasionally faint during trips. I wish we had a few 1000 votes, this poll, like the Great Mushrooms Poll uncovers statistics not yet found in the literature, at least by me
If we get a large sample, I'm going to shoot MAPS an email, this is interesting stuff right here.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10331595 - 05/13/09 09:53 AM (6 months, 6 days ago) |
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lol does XTC count as a psychedelic i think it is ^.^
a negitive effect is know way more hippies then i like
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you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: thedudenj]
#10331603 - 05/13/09 09:55 AM (6 months, 6 days ago) |
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XTC = MDMA is specifically excluded, as MDMA has issues and effects not shared by all the others.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: JT]
#10331607 - 05/13/09 09:58 AM (6 months, 6 days ago) |
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I've never had any negative effects from tripping, nor have I had any bad trips. That's due in no small part to my preparation and research. Even before I thoroughly researched psychedelics before my first trip, I knew they are powerful drugs that aren't meant to be taken lightly. Hell, I even researched weed before I smoked my first joint.
So whenever I trip, I always make sure that I'm in a good place (mentally & physically), and I take time after the trip to get balanced & integrate what I learned into normal life. Since I haven't grown my own mushrooms prior to my first grow last month, I wasn't tripping on a regular basis.
Edit: Good for you, Wiccan, to post a poll like this, the world is sadly devoid of honest polls like this one.
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"If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on."
- Terence McKenna
Edited by thirdeyeparable (05/13/09 10:00 AM)
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JT
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Quote:
thirdeyeparable said:
Edit: Good for you, Wiccan, to post a poll like this, the world is sadly devoid of honest polls like this one.
wiccan is a poll fiend. he always makes good ones lol.
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thedudenj
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dude amanita can be stronger visually and pychologically then psilocybes and does effect Serotonin indrectly and DXM effects Serotonin pretty directly phenethylamines that RCs are included tho ... so what about MDA which tends to be more visual whats your deffination here
they only reason i can see amanita being excluding cause the high rate of abverse effects same with saliva and datura. but i think most RCs fall into that. DOC gives me a mad methy feel most the time its not even really psychedelic tho sometimes it can be
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you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: thedudenj]
#10331687 - 05/13/09 10:25 AM (6 months, 6 days ago) |
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I have only tripped twice (shrooms) and I did not hallucinate at all either time ... however ever since then things have looked different to me. It's as if on shrooms I realized something about my vision and that realization has persisted since then.
Specifically, what I'm talking about are A: mild tracers (by which I mean slightly visible paths behind moving objects in high-contrast lighting), which I think may in fact be a natural feature of the retina that we train ourselves to ignore, and B: a tendency to immediately see anything of fractaline shape AS a fractal -- for example I can no longer look at most plants without thinking "wow! a fractal! look at that!"
I mean, I still see the plants as PLANTS, I'm not tripping out or anything, I just interpret what I'm seeing a little differently.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: laserpig]
#10331722 - 05/13/09 10:37 AM (6 months, 6 days ago) |
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One person has tripped more than a thousand times? Holy Fuck. I must meet this person. 
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: laserpig]
#10331749 - 05/13/09 10:45 AM (6 months, 6 days ago) |
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http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTefXl.ApKr6wAaQujzbkF/SIG=1286n9pvf/EXP=1242319461/**http%3A//www.flickr.com/photos/lindaukrose/2606673409/
when i see orange lines in the road similar to that i always see green lines too going perpendicular everyone i know sees them too only in person of course
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you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: thedudenj]
#10331776 - 05/13/09 10:53 AM (6 months, 6 days ago) |
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Quote:
grewya20 said:
One person has tripped more than a thousand times? Holy Fuck. I must meet this person.
nice to meet you.
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