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The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll 11
#10331418 - 05/13/09 07:43 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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This poll is intended to see how common certain adverse effects of psychedelics are among Shroomerites. There is no real data on adverse effects to psychedelics, as research was banned in the 1960s and before that time pro-drug and anti-drug bias turned research into a propaganda circus. This is factual data gathering into adverse effects to psychedelics, by the community, for the community.
Please interpret the questions objectively and choose the answer best fitting you.
You can see the poll results without voting. Please do not vote when you have never tripped.
Tripping only means Serotonin psychedelics. These are tryptamines (shrooms, DMT, RC's etc), phenethylamines (mescaline, RC's etc) and lysergamides (LSD, Morning Glory etc). It does NOT include weed, MDMA, Ketamine, Dextromethorphan, Salvia, Fly Agaric, Datura, OTC medicines and so forth.
Only write about your experiences with Tryptamine, Phenethylamine and Lysergamide hallucinogens!
If you cannot identify with any of the options given to a good degree, skip that question.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10331426 - 05/13/09 07:46 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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good poll. i like it
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Justice_Fish]
#10331479 - 05/13/09 08:04 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Its high time such a poll was done. Most people seem to do well on psychedelics, but if you're an active member for some years here you see some frequency of worrisome misadventures because of shrooms.
And as far as I know, theres next to no 21st century research into this kind of thing. Most of it is from the 1960s, and highly biased pro/anti psychedelics.
This one is by the community, for the community. Each tripping member can post their findings.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10331485 - 05/13/09 08:06 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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does this poll include experiences with saliva as well, just thought id check before i vote.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: ShroomerRoss]
#10331493 - 05/13/09 08:09 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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No salvia! Its a completely different drug. Thanks for checking, I included it in the post.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10331501 - 05/13/09 08:11 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Interesting poll! Can't wait to see some more results.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10331503 - 05/13/09 08:12 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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ok thanks missed that part
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: ShroomerRoss]
#10331505 - 05/13/09 08:12 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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no, I added salvia in response to your question 
As to flashbacks, Salvia to me is of way greater concern that serotonin psychedelics. With my limited salvia experience I had several clearcut Salvia flashbacks - and none on almost 250 trips in 16 years.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Justice_Fish]
#10331518 - 05/13/09 08:17 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I like the poll. Although I have had what many consider a "bad trip" I have NEVER suffered in any negative manner after a psychedelic experience. Each and every powerful experience showed me something about myself or the world, Many of which was negative. but with every bit of good and bad information, I integrated it into my life in a positive manner.It's not the information you gained from the experience that's most important, its how you integrate it into your life. This is what I contribute to never having long term, adverse affects from tripping. Another thing I contribute to my mindstate is the amount of information I consumed about tripping, long before I put my first tab of LSD under my tongue.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10331542 - 05/13/09 08:29 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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most of my trips were great. i learned a lot about myself, and i feel overall that it made me a stronger person. tripping really helped me to develop my individuality.
i did have some detrimental effects, though. a few years back i went a little overboard, dosing every weekend, culminating with me ingesting between 25-30 hits at once. 20 minutes after i swallowed them i started to come up, really fast, and i was just like..."holy shit...what am i doing...omg." i lost touch with reality for a while, but most of the trip i was just counting the time until i came down.
i've tripped on shrooms 2 times since, each spaced about 7 months apart, and these were much better experiences. i did notice a definite personality shift (i became more introverted) after that heroic dose, though.
i don't really have any desire to trip anymore, and if i did, i would not want to do it more than once a year. maybe i'll give it a shot at my family gathering next summer out in colorado though.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: JT]
#10331578 - 05/13/09 08:45 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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most of the trip i was just counting the time until i came down.
Oooh man I've been in for the long count myself, theres just not telling what thats like.
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i did notice a definite personality shift (i became more introverted) after that heroic dose (...) i don't really have any desire to trip anymore
You're still integrating the experience I think. Psychedelic experiences that are very intense and excruciating often take months to years to fully settle.
The desire to trip again is your best indicator as to how far the process is underway. Only if you wouldnt mind tripping again, have you fully coped with the experience. Doesn't mean you should trip then, of course.
20 voters - we have our first two people who DIDNT have visuals between trips and the first person to occasionally faint during trips. I wish we had a few 1000 votes, this poll, like the Great Mushrooms Poll uncovers statistics not yet found in the literature, at least by me 
If we get a large sample, I'm going to shoot MAPS an email, this is interesting stuff right here.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10331595 - 05/13/09 08:53 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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lol does XTC count as a psychedelic i think it is ^.^
a negitive effect is know way more hippies then i like
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: thedudenj]
#10331603 - 05/13/09 08:55 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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XTC = MDMA is specifically excluded, as MDMA has issues and effects not shared by all the others.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: JT]
#10331607 - 05/13/09 08:58 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've never had any negative effects from tripping, nor have I had any bad trips. That's due in no small part to my preparation and research. Even before I thoroughly researched psychedelics before my first trip, I knew they are powerful drugs that aren't meant to be taken lightly. Hell, I even researched weed before I smoked my first joint.
So whenever I trip, I always make sure that I'm in a good place (mentally & physically), and I take time after the trip to get balanced & integrate what I learned into normal life. Since I haven't grown my own mushrooms prior to my first grow last month, I wasn't tripping on a regular basis.
Edit: Good for you, Wiccan, to post a poll like this, the world is sadly devoid of honest polls like this one.
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wiccan is a poll fiend. he always makes good ones lol.
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dude amanita can be stronger visually and pychologically then psilocybes and does effect Serotonin indrectly and DXM effects Serotonin pretty directly phenethylamines that RCs are included tho ... so what about MDA which tends to be more visual whats your deffination here
they only reason i can see amanita being excluding cause the high rate of abverse effects same with saliva and datura. but i think most RCs fall into that. DOC gives me a mad methy feel most the time its not even really psychedelic tho sometimes it can be
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: thedudenj]
#10331687 - 05/13/09 09:25 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have only tripped twice (shrooms) and I did not hallucinate at all either time ... however ever since then things have looked different to me. It's as if on shrooms I realized something about my vision and that realization has persisted since then.
Specifically, what I'm talking about are A: mild tracers (by which I mean slightly visible paths behind moving objects in high-contrast lighting), which I think may in fact be a natural feature of the retina that we train ourselves to ignore, and B: a tendency to immediately see anything of fractaline shape AS a fractal -- for example I can no longer look at most plants without thinking "wow! a fractal! look at that!" I mean, I still see the plants as PLANTS, I'm not tripping out or anything, I just interpret what I'm seeing a little differently.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: laserpig] 2
#10331722 - 05/13/09 09:37 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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One person has tripped more than a thousand times? Holy Fuck. I must meet this person.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: laserpig]
#10331749 - 05/13/09 09:45 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTefXl.ApKr6wAaQujzbkF/SIG=1286n9pvf/EXP=1242319461/**http%3A//www.flickr.com/photos/lindaukrose/2606673409/
when i see orange lines in the road similar to that i always see green lines too going perpendicular everyone i know sees them too only in person of course
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: thedudenj]
#10331776 - 05/13/09 09:53 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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grewya20 said: One person has tripped more than a thousand times? Holy Fuck. I must meet this person. 
nice to meet you.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
#10331907 - 05/13/09 10:36 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Over 1000 trips in under 15 years and you typically dose for very intense effects? 
Please tell us how that works!
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10331926 - 05/13/09 10:43 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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18 years actually. since there wasn't an option between 15 and 20 years, i just clicked 15.
i never really saw the point in dosing lightly.
i spent most of my life with acid and mushrooms "on hand", so it became quite normal to do them alot.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
#10332032 - 05/13/09 11:12 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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But have you taken more than a thousand doses or have you been getting high every other week for almost two decades?
Whats your typical dose like, and does it still move you like it used to?
Its often to the extremes that you learn the most. I'm very interested in what its like
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker] 1
#10332061 - 05/13/09 11:18 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do you ever have visual/sensory effects of tripping while sober?
I think many people become more aware of normal visual/sensory effects that are a bit like tripping, after they tripped. Not saying that it's a bad question or that all effects are not caused by tripping, but I think it's very hard to tell what is a direct result of tripping and what is merely a focus on normal effects of our brain, caused by tripping. Interpreting these results is difficult and should be done with care. Good poll though.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10332084 - 05/13/09 11:22 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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thanks for making this poll WS, hopefully lots of people participate. i have never fainted on psychedelics and voted accordingly, but i've met a few people that have. i've always wondered why that happens, if its just the intensity they can't handle or if there is some medical problem going on or what. i wish there were more research for these things.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
#10332090 - 05/13/09 11:23 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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i always like your threads wiccan.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10332100 - 05/13/09 11:24 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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i wish i knew its over 250 for sure but under 500 im sure but if i contiue use it will be 500 in the next few years lol easy my girl friend is over 500 im sure shes fucking nuts. NYC burning man and psytrance people are surely over 1000 and alot of hippies
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10332107 - 05/13/09 11:25 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Many of these questions posed challenges to me.
I have had very difficult trips, followed by what could be called mental/emotional/spiritual problems, but I think that the trips brought out latent problems in a fiery manner, rather than creating the problems themselves. Tripping has probably been beneficial to me overall, though it's hard to attribute causality or say "What if..." and place myself in the shoes of an alternate reality non-tripping me.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10332145 - 05/13/09 11:32 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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it started out just an exploration of the drug. i spent alot of time at dead shows in the early-mid 90's, so it was just kinda normal, i guess. it got to where i was doing it 3-4-5 times a week. too much to learn anything from.
then when i started doing phish tours, thats when i started getting reeeaallly heroic with it. i found a new level of self-exploration that i didn't know existed. after 8 years on tour, doing it too much took away from the experience. all of a sudden, draining a vile or eating a sheet didn't take me anywhere new. i needed a break.
this year i dosed again with my nephew(1st timer) and re-discovered what i had lost. dosed again at a moe. show and the joy and bliss is still there.
moderation is the key. too much of anything will take away from the experience. i'm just glad that i know it still has something to teach me. i'm sure i'll do it again someday. just not today.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: psilyguy]
#10332150 - 05/13/09 11:34 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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i have never fainted on psychedelics and voted accordingly, but i've met a few people that have. i've always wondered why that happens, if its just the intensity they can't handle or if there is some medical problem going on or what. i wish there were more research for these things.
I think I can answer that one. I included fainting because I saw several reports to that effect in my shroomery years.
I think that in part we are dealing here with a genuine pharmacological effect.
Psychedelics are active on serotonin receptors. Some serotonin receptors are involved with blood pressure.
Combine:
The drug interacting with bloodpressure regulation Hypoglycemia Prolonged periods of sitting motionless, then moving Extreme variable emotions
Any of these alone can make some people faint, with psychedelics they intermingle.
If the faint is due to rapid drop of bloodpressure (which most fainting is) theoretically a rare few people could get a heart rhythm disturbance from such a sudden drop, just like that risk exists for any reason such a drop occurs.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker] 1
#10332166 - 05/13/09 11:38 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Check out what happened to some of our members when on shrooms. This turned up in a few minutes of using the Shroomery search engine:
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This past Sunday I ate 1.7g of B+ aborts around 5:30pm. I would say i reached level 2.5 during my peak. I also had 1.5g of strong kush. Everything was going great until I munched out on some brownies and cheetos around 11:30. I started to feel like I was going to pass out. I was getting real tired and decided to go to bed. I stood up, took two steps, knees buckled and stumbled back into my chair. . My wife decided not to eat them this night. Good thing. As I stumbled back into the chair she said I lost all color. My lips were dead white. She said first I was smacking my lips, then my eyes rolled into the back of my head and was throwing my head back. I had passed/blacked/ out. She kept saying I was grasping for air, then my face turned blood red, then she said I was hacking loudly. She claims my color turned white again, I opened my eyes with huge pupils, then I had a huge burp. Then I puked. All of this happened within a few minutes too. . I knew that I was going to be ok. It was seeing my wife freak out and thinking I was going to die. Thats what really upset me the most. After I vomited I felt great. I was bewildered at the fact that this had happened off of 1.7g. She wants me to stop my hobby but I refuse to accept that it was the mushrooms. I blame myself. It was a really weird experience. (...) Me: Im 25, 6'2", 210lbs. In good shape. I hiked the A.T. for my honeymoon last year. HuMe35
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Normal and common. I think it's low blood pressure. That's what it felt like when it happened to me. Weed makes it more likely. It isn't anything to worry about. Everyone freaks out the first time they pass out on shrooms. Like I said, it's really pretty normal. LSDreamer
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A friend (who now has a fried brain) told me about it [the Shroomery]. We're still good friends.Sad story because he's suck a great guy. He has a history of mental illness in his family and ever since he took shrooms he's had some mental issues like HPPD and even what I think is mild synesthesia (if I can be so bold as to call it that). He's got some depression issues too since he was physically and mentally abused as a child. . One of those guys that had so much potential, but circumstance drove him to do bad things. He was like... a rose that had a chance to be something beautiful but was deprived of nutrients and was kept in a closet. . I don't think it was shrooms that did him in per se, but rather the thing that got the ball rolling. He considered it the greatest thing he had in his life but years later he still sees floors wobble and tracers. He only tried shrooms once. . He also lost his ability to comprehend time. If you ask him to meet you at a certain time he might show up 3 to 4 hours later. He understands his watch but he isn't able to focus on how it works. Kind of like having a piece of paper with words in a language you don't understand; he knows there's something there but he isn't able to decipher it's meaning. . The only time he lights up is when talking about drugs. The man has the mind of a shaman. But everything else he's ever had has either been lost or degraded since his trip. He's mentally unstable sometimes, and has bouts of depression. He's 21 and getting ready for his 8th year in high school. Wapakz
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Hi all... The other night me and some friends were doing a little level-3 trip on some C. Cubensis and we had with us three people that were new to shrooms. Of these three, two had a good trip--no worries. However, one girl, as she started peaking, started having seizures. Uncontrollable muscle spasms that looked painful as hell. It was scary and I was about to take her out of the house and call an ambulance. Each time a "wave" would hit she would start with the seizures again. The fact that they were coming and going made gave us enough confidence that nothing deadly was about to happen. She was having no trouble breathing, no pain, and she was lucid and could speak fine. So we rode it out. As she came down a bit, the seizures went away...but this took about 4 hours to happen. This would indicate to me that the effect was partially dependent on the dosage. Once she came down a bit the seizures stopped entirely and she was able to have a good trip. I know that strobe lights can kick off an epileptic when on shrooms...but I have never heard of any problems like this in an otherwise healthy individual. She does have ambliopea (a slight disfunction of the visual cortex that causes her to have very poor sight in one eye). Has anyone heard of these kind of seizures before? (...) Hm...muscle spasms? I use the word seizure because she was flopping around on the floor legs arms, hands convulsing etc. It was not an act though. Was yours of the same magnitude? Must have been pretty disconcerting if it was. I guess what I am trying to determine here is how dangerous this is and how likely is it to happen to her again. Strabo
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When it happens to me it starts as a slight tremor in my thighs, to a point where I cannot hide it from others in the room. Then it intensifies until I am lying in the fetal position shaking hard enough to rattle my bedsprings. It was EXTREMELY disconcerting the first time (Thought I was going to die; it's SCARY), now it's debilitating but I don't worry about it because it goes away (I thought I as permanently FUCKED the first time). When it really gets going I can see the individual muscles firing in my legs as if they've been zapped with a mild electrical charge; sort of like an involuntary reflex, but in all different muscles. WhiskeyClone
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i took them yesterday (an 8th spread over about 3 hours)... so many events happened i cant remember them all right now - i "lost myself" for most of the duration of the trip but one bad thing was my eyes rolled into the back of my head and i passed out for a little while (as i was told by a person who saw me) - all I remember from this was I was down in my kitchen getting some food and a whole bunch of activity started in my brain and as i tried to walk up to my room and get out of there a river of brown/black seemed to close on my head. i passed out for about a minute and all i remember was white but the rest of the stuff that happened i can't remember. when i woke up i felt really sweaty/wet but i had no perspiration. i smoked about four bowls of marijuana throughout the day if that sparks any explanation CFCID
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As HPPD goes I've got it quite good: I've read about and corresponded with several people who've got it WAY,WAY worse then I do. For me it's just a little poorer vision & if I look at a "hallucinogenic" surface like my carpet I see all the beautiful stuff that's there when I trip. Am I scared? Nope, it's quite interesting and only a slight hindrance. But what worries me is what the future will bring. You all will probably jump up and scream: DON'T EVER TRIP AGAIN! . Sorry: ain't gonna do that except when the visualstuff proves to be very longlasting or worsens over time. The Shroom has done alot of good for me over the years & I'm not going to just stop because of this. I will take a long break from imbiding to see if it'll blow over and take some to make up my mind about where to go from here. It may be over tomorrow or never go away. Proceeding with the Shroom may or may not make it worse or recur. I'll just take a break and think hard. I don't feel "mauled" or "damaged" or stuff like that and fortunately it's at it's worst just a minor discomfort. . But think about it guys: one shroomtrip about every 2 months. The last years never more than half 1/8 of strong cubies, never anything wrong... And then THIS.
(...) I'm entering my 7th month now, still visuals of varying intensity with moods etc. to fit. Haven't tripped for a long time, it still hasn't diminished. It ain't severe, but 100% real nontheless & every once in a while lines of text start moving too. I feel it's OK, but I sure didn't have this before... (...) Yup, i still have them. Prominently. And no: i'm not counting days but have accepted the new me. So I've got visuals for 2 years straight now? Wow. . All the more it shows that to choose to be a tripper can affect you 24/7 for the rest of your life. . People want k00l drug5 so they take mushrooms, but don't appreciate the fact that it is one of the biggest decisions in your life, even if you just use them as an adjunct to watching Dragonball Z on the TV. . I've been psychedelicised permanently. Permanent mild visuals and increased psychodynamics. I've become a little bit high all the time. . Occasionally I still trip. It worsens nor eases the effects, and I have accepted it as being part of the rest of my life. Permafried... I'm glad its treshold-strength or it would be distracting to say the least. Wiccan_Seeker (update: seven years later, still got HPPD - milder though. It never went away.)
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
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moe.phan said: it got to where i was doing it 3-4-5 times a week. too much to learn anything from.
Wow, averaging 3~5 times a week, I'm not sure I would be able to handle that, that's a bit much in my point of view. I recently took two solid (not *quite* heroic) doses - Dead concert thursday night & Beltane (pagan celebration for beginning of summer) on saturday afternoon - and I feel like I need to slow down. Maybe it's due to my inexperience (dosed 4 times prior to that over a 5-year period) or personal tolerance differences.
I guess if I knew more people that dealt shrooms, I would've dosed more often; it's an odd comforting feeling that I'll never have to worry about running out since I'm growing them myself, but I also need to restrain myself from dosing too often...which could prove difficult since my love of shrooms has grown exponentially since I started growing them.
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grewya20 said: One person has tripped more than a thousand times? Holy Fuck. I must meet this person. 
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
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thats some intense stuff, i haven't tripped in a year and a half now. i stopped because a single high anxiety trip on only 1.7 grams of cubes triggered some possibly latent anxiety afterwards. the anxiety was strong for about 4 months, then it was just as strong but less frequent for several more months. since then its been fading away gradually. i bought some shrooms when i thought i was ready to trip again about 2 weeks ago, but when i was about to eat them i suddenly felt anxiety instead of anticipation and took that as a warning that im not quite ready yet. so i didn't take them even though my friend took his, and im fine with that because even not tripping i was feeling kind of discombobulated the rest of the night. its a strange ambivalence i feel about mushrooms. its such a magical and amazing state of mind that it became a deep part of me and still is a year and a half later.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: psilyguy]
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Definitely, if you get anxiety right before taking it instead of the usual anticipation, its best to wait for another time.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
#10333388 - 05/13/09 03:52 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Having a bad trip can be a good thing.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
#10333446 - 05/13/09 04:03 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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This poll is flawed in that some of the answers to choose from for some of the questions are inherently proposing that psychedelic have had negative effects on me.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10333475 - 05/13/09 04:10 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Definitely, if you get anxiety right before taking it instead of the usual anticipation, its best to wait for another time.
I always get pre trip anxiety but it seems to turn out fine most of the time anyway.
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Nope, the introduction to the poll is clear that you can omit certain questions if you cannot agree to any of the options. Like for instance, if one doesnt get a specific effect, there is no point in the follow up question on its severity.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
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Wiccan_Seeker said: no, I added salvia in response to your question 
As to flashbacks, Salvia to me is of way greater concern that serotonin psychedelics. With my limited salvia experience I had several clearcut Salvia flashbacks - and none on almost 250 trips in 16 years.
I have HPPD from acid, and maybe a few flashbacks spawned by other drugs like hydrocodone and weed.
I haven't taken acid in six years.
I have done Salvia something like a hundred times recently, but I haven't noticed any flashbacks or HPPD related to that.
What have experienced in regards to post-trip Salvaic sensations?
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10333524 - 05/13/09 04:19 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well the question about "adverse affects from psychedelics" is misleading. You can have positive and negative "adverse affects" but you offer no positive choice. Other than that its a pretty good poll, hopefully this poll can tell us something about psychedelic using populations in modern society.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
#10333548 - 05/13/09 04:23 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I find salvia gives way more "flashback" type stuff.
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Cognitive_Shift said: Well the question about "adverse affects from psychedelics" is misleading. You can have positive and negative "adverse affects" but you offer no positive choice. Other than that its a pretty good poll, hopefully this poll can tell us something about psychedelic using populations in modern society.
Adverse means negative.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Grapefruit]
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Cognitive_Shift said: Well the question about "adverse affects from psychedelics" is misleading. You can have positive and negative "adverse affects" but you offer no positive choice. Other than that its a pretty good poll, hopefully this poll can tell us something about psychedelic using populations in modern society.
Adverse means negative.
Your are right. I am wrong. My bad
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Grapefruit]
#10333641 - 05/13/09 04:36 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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What have you experienced in regards to Salvia-related flashbacks.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
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nothing ridiculous when I'm smoking it with some regularity I generally get that "fucked on a psychedelic feeling" occasionally, doesn't feel properly like your on it tho just quite a bit. lasts probably 15-30 minutes. I quite enjoy it tho so no worries.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
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What have experienced in regards to post-trip Salvaic sensations?
Flashbacks in the classic sense. At once, for a few seconds, feeling exactly the same as on Salvia. Not a mental thing, a spontaneous recurrence w/o particular emotions.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10334173 - 05/13/09 06:09 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Flash backs can result from any intense emotional experience. War, car crash, rape so forth and so on. Before you take a psychedelic, one must be aware of this intense emotional experience, and its positive and negative consequences.
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Absolutely, but if it feels exactly like being high on salvia, in all its unique character, the culprit is readily found.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10334278 - 05/13/09 06:30 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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We agree on something.
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the negative effects I have sober mainly consist of the constant breathing of everything. It used to be so extreme that I couldn't go outside for a week but it stopped now and mainly occurs when im stressed or really tired.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: learningtofly]
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I have taken many psychedelics at different kind of doses. From low dose LSD, to heroic dose Psilocybin, to DMT. Not just using but using many times, i notice no difference in my cognitive abilities or perception. But thats just me
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: learningtofly]
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I've got HPPD ion varying degrees of intensity for 7 years now. Lately its in a milder phase.
I'm glad I'm a lowdoser, usually HPPD intensity is a pecentage of your average or last taken dose.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10336660 - 05/14/09 06:42 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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My HPPD has been persistent ever since one particular trip.
I see things in grass, carpet, asphalt, blankets, etc.
It is a lattice of fleurs-de-lis, boat anchors, pine trees, and other patterns that mix within a web of intricate design covering any textured surface that I stare at long enough.
It just started one night during an acid trip and never stopped.
I can tell the difference between what I see as compared to what is really there.
I feel that I have tattooed my brain with acid so that I am forced to see subtle hints of trips past, and the mix of all the different acid I have taken has created a stencil through which my mind examines my surroundings.
My eyes are also very sensitive to light, and I see tracers like a motherfucker if something is bright in front of a dark background.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
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I wasn't quite sure on the last one. Does this include alcohol?
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
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Swyfty Swyf said: My HPPD has been persistent ever since one particular trip.
I see things in grass, carpet, asphalt, blankets, etc.
It is a lattice of fleurs-de-lis, boat anchors, pine trees, and other patterns that mix within a web of intricate design covering any textured surface that I stare at long enough.
It just started one night during an acid trip and never stopped.
I can tell the difference between what I see as compared to what is really there.
I feel that I have tattooed my brain with acid so that I am forced to see subtle hints of trips past, and the mix of all the different acid I have taken has created a stencil through which my mind examines my surroundings.
My eyes are also very sensitive to light, and I see tracers like a motherfucker if something is bright in front of a dark background.
I suffer from almost the exact same symptoms.
I also feel as though I have stained my mind with psychedelics.
Do you still trip? Do the effects get worse? I haven't tripped since this began.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: gotcha420haha]
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I have similar problems and I definately still trip.... no sense in not if shits already fucked?
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To whoever put "A lot worse" in regard to "How has tripping affected your functionality in society?", I meant to click that as well.
Didn't quite understand it correctly (just woke up). It's ruined my functionality in society but I see things clearer now. I'm a more dedicated, intelligent individual and I wouldn't give it up for the world. I sacrificed my ego, and place in society, to better my own mind - and I'd never take that back, given 1000 opportunities. I am now open to opinions, I do not judge people by first glance, I think before I speak (most often), I enjoy the finer things that life has to offer, everything has become more beautiful.. I still get depressed because I'm bipolar II.. but that's fine, and I accept it. As long as I'm not that hard headed brute that ruined numerous peoples' days every day, I can rest my head on my pillow at night and sleep soundly. I end up burying my face in a book and exploring other worlds - the society out there doesn't really have much better to offer. I sometimes feel sad at/for them. 
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...we later attributed it to the change in blood pressure from having just stood up after hours of lounging around.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Dystopia]
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Does anyone will any form of HPPD still trip? How has it affected you? I haven't tripped in a year (well I tried DMT) and i really want to again but i'm a little uncertain about it
Mine came about really weird, because when I learned about HPPD i did a lot of reading on hppdonline and freaked myself out, later i took a few bong rips and then I was so preoccupied with it, that when I woke up, i had it.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: learningtofly]
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HPPD has such a random/odd definition that everyone seems to think they have it.
What some people seem to explain is a shift in consciousness, in which they seem to be more aware of the world and environment around them - and how neat it would be if such was the case.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: gotcha420haha]
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Swyfty Swyf said: My HPPD has been persistent ever since one particular trip.
I see things in grass, carpet, asphalt, blankets, etc.
It is a lattice of fleurs-de-lis, boat anchors, pine trees, and other patterns that mix within a web of intricate design covering any textured surface that I stare at long enough.
It just started one night during an acid trip and never stopped.
I can tell the difference between what I see as compared to what is really there.
I feel that I have tattooed my brain with acid so that I am forced to see subtle hints of trips past, and the mix of all the different acid I have taken has created a stencil through which my mind examines my surroundings.
My eyes are also very sensitive to light, and I see tracers like a motherfucker if something is bright in front of a dark background.
I suffer from almost the exact same symptoms.
I also feel as though I have stained my mind with psychedelics.
Do you still trip? Do the effects get worse? I haven't tripped since this began.
I do.
The effects do not seem worse.
I haven't taken acid in about six years, but I do Salvia, DMT and Amanita muscaria periodically.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
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Something that I have noticed after tripping so much... and I have tripped a good 125 times or so in the last 2 1/2 years (sometimes twice, even three times a week during festivals), is that I require so much less to actually get me into a full blown trip. I can trip balls on one or two doses now, because I feel like I have learned HOW to trip. I can hone into the subtle intricacies and undertones of a trip on a low dose and turn it into a psychedelic mindsplosion.
And yes, I can actually somewhat do this when not tripping at all. I'm a naturally trippy person, and I can stare at a wall and make the grain on it crawl a bit
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
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Wiccan_Seeker said: No cognitive shifts?
Nope. However my psychedelic use has been jammed into a short amount of time. I have only been using psychedelics for 2 years. This past march i took LSD 6 times in two month stretch (not light doses). I don't like to use psychedelics on the weekly for weeks like that. But the cognitive shift only lasted while i was tripping
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Thats not a genuine one then What did it entail?
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Thats not a genuine one then What did it entail?
What did what entail? My cognitive shift while under the influence of LSD, Psilocybin, Mescaline and DMT?
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Yup 
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll (moved) [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10360844 - 05/18/09 06:52 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from The Pub.
Reason: The poll can now be found in the PE forum
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
#10370530 - 05/20/09 02:59 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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1000 times really? holy fuck. you must really live in a different world than all of us. whats it like out there lol
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
#10371024 - 05/20/09 04:13 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Not sure how I feel about this poll. I like the idea of doing basic research like this but I feel the format of the research and the questions need to be refined.
The thing is, I've had many very difficult experiences ... does ayahuasca count? If so, then especially, but I've also had difficult experiences with mushrooms. In some cases it took some time after the experience to integrate and re-ground, and that disrupted my life a bit and it was extremely uncomfortable.
But I've come to see it all as a healing process, and it is so much worth it. Each "adverse effect" has been a gift in disguise. Sometimes it takes time but now that I've learned to trust the process, I can sometimes be grateful for the gift even during the scary or uncomfortable part, and that makes it easier.
So, what seems an adverse effect may just be an unrecognized gift.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Dystopia]
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The effects of the drugs themselves are great anything bad that came out of it was/is a direct result of other people freaking out (not socially acceptable)
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: ChiefGreenLeaf]
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Nice poll, interesting to see those results.
wow 1000+ .
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
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Damn. I responded as if MDMA were applicable. I read phenylethamine and just assumed. It's funny how selective my reading is. I noticed no dextromethorphan, but not MDMA right before it.
Ecstasy is probably most of my experience with phenylethamines, maybe 500 of my total would be reduced considering that. I've only really done 2C-alphabet and the DOx series otherwise.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
#10381985 - 05/22/09 12:09 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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great poll
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10398566 - 05/25/09 07:58 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Love it! The Truth
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I answered the survey based on my shroom experiences. BUT I have also tripped on acid... totally different experience. With the acid it seemed so much more intense, but I guess when you play god and create a chemical to imitate a natural substance that is what happens. I have never had a "bad trip" on either acid or shrooms, but have certainly felt some ill effects after the acid. Most times, after a few hours of acid tripping I start looking for the off switch (stop the train please, I am ready to get off). But with shrooms, it just feels so natural, like I stepped into a reality that is always around me, I just can't see it. I have had some seriously intense shroom trips, but acid just seems like a really hardcore shroom trip. I will say the weirdest experience I ever had was actually with ketamine, I felt like I was watching myself from afar and it looked like I was in a video game. Anyone remember the Leonardo DiCaprio movie The Beach? In the movie there is a part where he is delirious and he seems to be running through the woods like a video game. That's exactly what it was like. I felt like I had no control over what I was doing or saying. I would literally think one thing and then say something completely different. I know it is not technically a psychedelic, but it sure is close.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
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Great poll, Years ago I used to take a lot of LSD. Most of my adverse effects were caused by dirty CID. So now I will only take shrooms cause they are natural. Since then every experience is enjoyable and self enlightening great visuals no anxiety, and especially no body aches. I've tripped many times and had never had a medical situation. But once on CID I had a bad trip cause it was cut real bad felt like a dagger in my spine all night so it played on my conscious till I finally lost it not a good night. Since then only shrooms go in this body
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Time Ed]
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Time Ed said: Great poll, Years ago I used to take a lot of LSD. Most of my adverse effects were caused by dirty CID.
You seem pretty certain about an idea you pulled directly out your ass.
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What do you mean by that. Never had any body aches or anxiety on shrooms and even had some great LSD. So then tell me why some hits of acid are totally achy and make it seem like a really shaky trip. BTW I have no long term effects. Just speaking of immediate adverse effects.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: feelingfunny]
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feelingfunny said: With the acid it seemed so much more intense, but I guess when you play god and create a chemical to imitate a natural substance that is what happens.
nothing to do with the chemical it self it all has to do with how well that chem activates certain receptors. God made the receptor and we are just utilizing to the full effect.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
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Cool poll idea, 9/10.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: ben9nine]
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That's the fakest shit i ever seen. Took a tiny hit and held it for only bout 10 seconds.... and was combing through the turn around in the corner? Looks fucking fake to me
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10466241 - 06/07/09 01:43 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have a history of psychological illness, namely depression and panic/rage attacks (which are short-lived and nonviolent, but terrible nonetheless). My previous psychedelic experiences helped contribute to their healing, but my latest shroom trip seemed to bring them back with a vengeance. I procured some 5-HTP from a local vegan wellness shop so that these sorts of upheavals can be avoided.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10467927 - 06/07/09 07:50 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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great poll. it confirmed most of what i already believed about psychedelics.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: tittysnacks74]
#10495924 - 06/12/09 06:39 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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tittysnacks74 said: I have a history of psychological illness, namely depression and panic/rage attacks (which are short-lived and nonviolent, but terrible nonetheless). My previous psychedelic experiences helped contribute to their healing, but my latest shroom trip seemed to bring them back with a vengeance. I procured some 5-HTP from a local vegan wellness shop so that these sorts of upheavals can be avoided.
I don't think 5-HTP will do much for avoiding these trips, as serotonin is not the cause for them in the first place. I've eaten 5HTP before a trip to help me get in a better mood, and I nonetheless had a very difficult trip. Set and setting.. make sure you're mentally prepared. Shrooms can indeed heal...
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: showme]
#10499756 - 06/13/09 12:29 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Excellent poll
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Justice_Fish]
#10499831 - 06/13/09 12:48 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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cool poll...
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
#10508708 - 06/15/09 02:17 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok so I can see the majority of people are not adversely effected by psychedelics as far as mental disorders.
What are your findings regarding DMT and mental disorders? I read a post that essentially said most things that trigger mental disorders may eventually occur with or without psychedelics, and that these drugs may just make you get there sooner. Please understand I mean a mental disorder to be something known and identifiable, not just "crazy thoughts".
I tried it, I and I enjoyed it. Did not loose consciousness and experience any dream like or God like hallucinations. I felt numb and disassociated w/ very psych visuals. I feel I approached the door.
My girlfriend's roommate tried it a couple times and basically went crazy. He hears voices and he is paranoid. My girl friend and I think that his insanity was caused by regular paranoia about his plants and getting caught on top of breaking up with his girl friend.
Even with this info I want to cross the threshold and pass out on DMT. I feel that my mind is strong and fluid enough to handle an intense DMT trip without being permanently effected i.e. mental disorder (not just crazy thoughts like I often have, but a disorder in where one cannot function by himself, or communicate socially).
Just tonight I talked to my friend from Humboldt who informed me that his friend had recently obtained a mental disorder after smoking a strong dose of DMT. He too felt he could handle any trip, but after six months of working his way up with DMT, he finally snapped, was hospitalized for a week, could not communicate, he would talk in gibberish, and he simply could not function. He is recently becoming better able to communicate. He says the secret he retained was if you give love you get love. It seems like a big risk to get that message, if that kind of mental disorder will occur. Then again who knows what you will see or hear, or if you can bring it back and talk about it with words.
I am now a little timid in trying to cross the threshold. Although I think a little insanity is beautiful, I fear for mine, and my families well being in doing this. On the other hand I feel as if I need to experience altered states of reality and consciousness in order to maintain an interesting life.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
#10512306 - 06/15/09 04:53 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok so I read a post where people seem to come to the consensus that when it comes to mental disorders people think that they may occur with or without the drug, because there are too many variables, mental disorder genes, strange situations in your life ect.
Has anyone experienced mental disorders after ingesting DMT specifically? By mental disorders I mean, you are unable to function, (feed yourself for example), or function socially (holding a conversation). Also has anyone reported anything close to this, maybe less severe?
I tried it, I and I enjoyed it. Did not loose consciousness and experience any dream like or God like hallucinations. I felt numb and disassociated w/ very psych visuals. I feel I approached the door.
My girlfriend's roommate tried it a couple times and basically went crazy. He hears voices and he is paranoid. My girl friend and I think that his insanity was caused by regular paranoia about his plants and getting caught on top of breaking up with his girl friend.
Even with this info I want to cross the threshold and pass out on DMT. I feel that my mind is strong and fluid enough to handle an intense DMT trip without being permanently effected i.e. mental disorder (not just crazy thoughts like I often have, but a disorder in where one cannot function by himself, or communicate socially).
Just tonight I talked to my friend from Humboldt who informed me that his friend had recently obtained a mental disorder after smoking a strong dose of DMT. He too felt he could handle any trip, but after six months of working his way up with DMT, he finally snapped, was hospitalized for a week, could not communicate, he would talk in gibberish, and he simply could not function. He is recently becoming better able to communicate. He says the secret he retained was if you give love you get love. It seems like a big risk to get that message, if that kind of mental disorder will occur.
I am now a little timid in trying to cross the threshold. Although I think a little insanity is beautiful, I fear for, mine and my families well being in doing this. On the other hand I feel as if I need to experience altered states of reality and consciousness in order to maintain an interesting life.
Please criticize, give feedback, provide examples, suggest things.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10518429 - 06/16/09 04:13 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Great poll, I find that I was way more capable of handling hard core trips when i was 13 to 17 once I hit 19 id say I was tripping many times a week and eating massive amounts of liquid sucking on vials like lollipops, shortly after that I started to develop some mild psychosis one of my boys shot some dude in the head and killed him dude got life and shit got crazy I freaked out and didn't leave the house for months but I started to feel people were talking about me and it seemed like everyone was looking at me after a few months I was fine again. But to this day i still experience some anxiety if I don't have weed sometimes ill have a panic attack but if i puff it goes away. As for people getting permanently wacked I know of several two of my best friends went nuts one went to the loony bin he got better and just a few weeks ago started going to shows again and tripping now hes right back to being crazy as fuck (which is a shame) he has a wife and 8 year old daughter in a terrible situation right now. And two sisters that went completely crazy and still are, and a few other people. People should study their family history extensively to make sure theirs no underlying mental illness I would say in 95% of the people I know have a family history of mental illness and tripping themselves brings it out. So kids get educated about what the fuck your putting in your body and know your body and mind also remember its just a drug and some point you will come down
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: pasucks]
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I've definitely had some extremely adverse affects from overuse. I say "extremely" in comparison to the "zero" that people on this forum would have you believe exist. I also want to stress that this came from CLEAR abuse. There were warning signs that my brain chemicals weren't handling all the topsy-turvy abstraction too well, and I ignored them.
I'll put it this way: At the point where you find yourself worrying about insanity, it's probably a concern. Someone having perfectly wonderful psychedelic experiences, coming down normally, and functioning as they always have in perfect sobriety doesn't start worrying about psychosis. Your brain gives you signs. Listen to that shit. You'll know when it's time to trip, and you'll know when you need to take a nice, long break.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Germican]
#10519775 - 06/16/09 08:14 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mad cognitive shifts, son.
On a side note, I've seen one trend in this thread, as well as in all the research I've done prior. It seems like once people "snap" (this can be HPPD, anxiety, whatever), re-emerging into the world of psychedelics can cause a re-emergence of their problems, but does not seem to worsen them.
That's very interesting to me. It seems as though, if you find your own breed of mental illness, and come out of it a functioning member of society instead of an addition to a mental ward, then at least you know the worst case scenario.
This is just an observation, mind you, not a conclusion.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Ophanim]
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On a side note, I've seen one trend in this thread, as well as in all the research I've done prior. It seems like once people "snap" (this can be HPPD, anxiety, whatever), re-emerging into the world of psychedelics can cause a re-emergence of their problems, but does not seem to worsen them.
That's very interesting to me. It seems as though, if you find your own breed of mental illness, and come out of it a functioning member of society instead of an addition to a mental ward, then at least you know the worst case scenario.
This is just an observation, mind you, not a conclusion.
I disagree. My own research in hppdforums, f.e. show that there's is significant worsening of effects with re-emerging in psychedelics, and even though in most of the cases this doesn't last too long, in some cases the worsening seems permanent
Nice to seesuch a poll, AT LAST!!!
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: mutant]
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mutant said: I disagree. My own research in hppdforums, f.e. show that there's is significant worsening of effects with re-emerging in psychedelics, and even though in most of the cases this doesn't last too long, in some cases the worsening seems permanent
Nice to seesuch a poll, AT LAST!!!
I think we're talking about different things. It's a given that, in most cases, if you practice complete abstinence, your side effects will weaken or disappear. And it's also likely that, if you return to your old habits, the side effects will also return. However, I don't often hear of them being worse than they were before. That said, perhaps I lumped together "psychedelic side effects" too readily. I don't actually think HPPD is the same sort of problem as anxiety, depression, or psychosis. Those three, I believe, are specifically linked in their cause(s), whereas HPPD only triggers them by association. Obviously this statement doesn't apply if you use the term "HPPD" when referring to any adverse after-effect related to a psychedelic experience.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Ophanim]
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As a small child and right into my teens I was OCD to a terrible degree. I couldnt even leave the house without performing all kinds of weird counting rituals.I would have total nervous breakdowns because I thought an outside force was controlling my mind. Then when I was 19 I took acid for the first time. OCD completely cured forever. I used acid , shrooms , mescaline heavily for the next 5 or 6 years. I eventually had to stop because the trips were becoming to overwhelming. Im one of those with a backwards metabolism. I never developed a tolerance to it. Quite the opposite. I can sleep on speed, but vicodin, methadone keeps me awake for days.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: mondoharp]
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LSD-->saw the people on CNN warp->they kept looking older and younger and older and younger as if in an infinite cycle of ageing,decaying, and death but all at once.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
#10542107 - 06/20/09 10:04 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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As one of those who selected the "<1,000" option I have to say that I have moderate to strong sensory effects much of the time.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#10545791 - 06/21/09 01:04 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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i'm a person who put <5x (i joined this forum mostly for cultivation tips) so i gotta ask. doesn't it suck not having a full grasp on reality? don't get me wrong, i love to get high or drunk or trip every now and then, but i also love to wake up the next morning and reflect on the previous night's festivities with a clear, sober mind.
do you ever regret doing so many psychedelics?
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I have generalized anxiety and panic attack anxiety directly from my drug use. But i don't think its from the psychedelics, i think it was all the dextroamphetamine. However i can't pin point which one specifically causes my anxiety because i have taken so many drugs and so many combinations of drugs.
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I had anxiety long before I did drugs. I believe psychedelics really helped me to beat my anxiety problem.
The sensory alterations are something I just view as a side effect of something which has allowed me to grow as a spiritual being.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
#10565122 - 06/24/09 01:10 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have consumed about 1/2 oz of mushrooms in the past year, my most recent trip being very intense many ups and downs, like heaven and hell, ever since this past experience if i smoke a large quantity of marijuana, i will have a noticeable mushrooms flashback for about 30 minutes (objects swelling, vision twisting, appendages contorting, lucid mind state), does anybody know a method for halting these flashbacks?
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: mskarsten]
#10565743 - 06/24/09 03:13 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I had an intense trip like that myself last year. but are you sure those are mushroom flashbacks? Marijuana in it's own right is known to be a hallucinogen.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: mskarsten]
#10570141 - 06/25/09 10:13 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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mskarsten said: I have consumed about 1/2 oz of mushrooms in the past year, my most recent trip being very intense many ups and downs, like heaven and hell, ever since this past experience if i smoke a large quantity of marijuana, i will have a noticeable mushrooms flashback for about 30 minutes (objects swelling, vision twisting, appendages contorting, lucid mind state), does anybody know a method for halting these flashbacks?
I don't think those are flashbacks mang. Marijuana will very frequently take on the properties of other psychedelics you do regularly. I no longer have to eat mushrooms at all. At this point, the only way to have a "good old" weed high is to drink some alcohol first and smoke after I'm drunk. That will turn it back into a shallow, giggly experience real quick.
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Suggestions for improving the poll, ask for specific adverse effects, this is a general poll a poll with more specific information including times tripped, doses and other information is very desireable. You got the ball rolling so that is commendable.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: dondoodle]
#10593218 - 06/29/09 03:20 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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tripping has been an amazing supplement to my life. the only time ive ever really pushed the envelope too far was earthdance last year on 4-5 doses of liquid molly and 12 hits of acid. blacked out for three hours and came to in a world of paranoia and frighteningly real hallucinations. good times
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: dondoodle]
#10593442 - 06/29/09 04:11 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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dondoodle said: Suggestions for improving the poll, ask for specific adverse effects, this is a general poll a poll with more specific information including times tripped, doses and other information is very desireable. You got the ball rolling so that is commendable.
you must not have looked at the entire poll...
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: danlennon3]
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Danlennon when I read your reply to this post I first thought it was a reply that I had wrote on a seperate post and someone transfered it over here. Some of the things you wrote were verbatim what I did, like "what some would call a "bad trip"." From my belief "bad trips" are nothing more than an intense psychological transformation of a neccasary understanding that is needed for the ego to be at peace. When I had my first one a decade ago I don't think I was able to think it was anything but a bad trip because of the lack of information, misinformation, and myths of the bad trip. One of the fundemental pieces of realization for me came when I stopped "using" psychedelics to get high and started partaking with them for expanding my understanding of myself and integration in the big picture. Not to mention healing which was what the psychedelic was first used for thousands of years ago by numerous different tribes all over the world.
Anyways danlennon, very well put in my opinion.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Amber_Glow]
#10621168 - 07/04/09 12:52 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I must say, some of these questions are diffictult to judge from the perspective of the one answering them.. O.o things like, if we feel we function better in society for example.. I don't feel I do function in society better then I did before.. as before I was just completly content not questioning it, and just going along with Society, and functioned very well in it.. But that is not saying I am unhappy, or unfullfilled, or poor, or alone... so maybe that gets what I meant there.. otherwise.. I also found it difficult to define the difference between which drugs actually were what created any positive or negative effects in my life.. When it comes to anything that effects the mind, you cannot really seperate the means by which is doing so, because of the very diversity of the mind, and how it is actually effected by substances ..? Everyone is different. So if you, me, or anyone used lsd one time, and then dextromethorphan after, and say MDMA inbetween, with a touch of Salvia.. or whatever- in the long term, how can we say what drug made the benifits or not..?
I'm not dissing the poll, there needs to be more of them, and now we're getting somewhere again..
I just thought, and decided to mention  It's always awesome going through these types of questionairs, and getting a better understanding of ones own experience by even thinking of such questions..
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: mskarsten]
#10651562 - 07/10/09 05:16 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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mskarsten said: I have consumed about 1/2 oz of mushrooms in the past year, my most recent trip being very intense many ups and downs, like heaven and hell, ever since this past experience if i smoke a large quantity of marijuana, i will have a noticeable mushrooms flashback for about 30 minutes (objects swelling, vision twisting, appendages contorting, lucid mind state), does anybody know a method for halting these flashbacks?
Patient: Doctor, whenever I smoke a large quantity of marijuana I get mushroom trip flashbacks. What can I do? Doctor:Don't smoke large quantities of marijuana.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
#10671569 - 07/13/09 07:24 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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calamus root according to ayurveda, negates all ill effects of all psychedelics, including ganja. read that in Ayurveda: the science of self healing by Dr. Vasant Lad. great book
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: sleepy]
#10671706 - 07/13/09 07:47 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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There are many who believe that "calamus" is a mistranslation of "cannabis"
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10673942 - 07/14/09 07:15 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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really? based on what? where'd you hear that?
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: champinhom]
#10687434 - 07/16/09 09:56 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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mskarsten said: I have consumed about 1/2 oz of mushrooms in the past year, my most recent trip being very intense many ups and downs, like heaven and hell, ever since this past experience if i smoke a large quantity of marijuana, i will have a noticeable mushrooms flashback for about 30 minutes (objects swelling, vision twisting, appendages contorting, lucid mind state), does anybody know a method for halting these flashbacks?
All I can say is don't get really, really stoned unless you can afford to trip a little bit. I get those flashbacks, too, so don't you worry your pretty little head about it. You're only somewhat insane
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: TastyPop]
#10707608 - 07/20/09 01:05 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lest i upset some contributors to this thread, let me say in advance that I LOVE polls, and that this poll has some obtained some great data and insight. However I feel that many of these types of polls can be distorted to the understanding of the poll taker. Questions need to be much more specific in order to create answers everyone can agree are accurate. Questions like "have you ever had a difficult trip" are confusing and too general. "medical situations" should be defined, as should "visual and sensory effects".
edit* i hadn't read the above post by funkmastershroom before i posted, which basically covered everything i was thinking.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10709229 - 07/20/09 11:37 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm wishing there was a a way to re-take it, as some of my answers have changed.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
#10714942 - 07/21/09 11:27 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Never had a full on bad trip, but I have had the first half of it be terrifying, only to turn into bliss.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: redballz]
#10790971 - 08/03/09 07:30 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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The poll could be better put together as had already been said, but overall, good that its been done.
I've had the 'counting down' feeling before, where I just wanted it to end, from super strong acid. Laid in a tent for what felt like six hours but it had been three minutes, sigh. I've had feelings of 'oh shit I've taken too much I'm fucked' once, but I managed to sort myself out before it became a really bad trip and it became a rather nice one.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: snowglobe]
#10796702 - 08/04/09 03:47 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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When I mixed Cannabis with mushrooms I suffered from a light derealization the next one or two weeks. Maybe it was because I was ill at this time, I couldn't say. The first trip made me a better person, anyway
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10824952 - 08/08/09 08:45 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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fucking awesome poll.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: whatisreality]
#10888611 - 08/19/09 08:43 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Maybe somebody can help/advice me : I´ve read a lot before tripping.I read about how shrooms make you see somethings that are "normally hidden, how they make you realize about some truths. So, that´s what I was expecting when 1rst tripping.
Then when tripping I realized how superficial everything in life is (i mean Everything, even love, life it self), I started to think about why life is such a mess , why the persons can be so mean, why this why that and so on and on. I got NO answers ,only questions about life. One big question was: why i am tripping about this??? I wanted trip about others things, nature, see things, see elves whatever but not this. That got me kind of depressed, when sobber. Now almost everything for me in life is big question mark, with no answer. I have only tripped 3 times, I want to trip more, but I dont want to get deeper and deeper, questioning everthing .Everytime I trip I start to think and think and i dont like that, I do enjoy the visuals. Maybe Iif I eat more dosage, i ´d loose myself and mental control. and the thinking would be over, and the enviroment would lead my thoughts. I don´t know.. ADVICES?
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: omtb]
#10889201 - 08/19/09 10:48 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'll admit to being no more experienced with psychedelics than yourself, but still I have to say that I think this sounds like a bad idea:
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omtb said: Maybe if I eat more dosage, i'd loose myself and mental control. and the thinking would be over, and the enviroment would lead my thoughts.
I don't have any real advice for how to get rid of your questioning tendency, because that's probably just your personality. What I can suggest is that you not look at it as such a bummer: most people, even if they trip often, don't see as deeply past superficiality as you seem to. It's your call whether to look at that as a blessing or as a curse.
Alan Watts makes a very convincing case for the idea that life and the universe are essentially purposeless, in that there is no necessity for life to keep on living and there is no necessity for the universe to exist at all. This isn't his idea exclusively, but what makes his view special (IMO) is the attitude with which he approaches it. What he basically says is: the universe is pointless, so ... awesome! Let's play around!
Think about it, if there's no "point" to living, then isn't that really a huge relief? If there's nothing to live up to, no purpose to satisfy, then ... well, we're free! The only things you have any motivation to do anymore are to make yourself and those around you happy, in whatever way you feel like.
Maybe there are no answers because really, there were never any questions.
Do you ask a kid what their purpose is when they're playing with sand at the beach? You could, but they'll just look back at you, confused. The point of the play is only the play itself.
Just throwing out ideas. If you'd like to hear more about this, in a significantly more useful presentation, I recommend his book The Joyous Cosmology -- a library near you should have it, and despite it being only about 100 pages long, it's packed full of fascinating and uplifting insights about what can be gleaned from the psychedelic experience.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10889553 - 08/19/09 12:01 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good poll. Was cool to look at how others on this board are similar and different in certain ways. Definitely gives you a good overview of the tripping/cultivating community.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: omtb]
#10897059 - 08/20/09 10:56 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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wow dude, your first few experiences are very similar to mine. I can give you a little advice as I have used a plethra of psychedelics in my 31 years. What you experienced is normal. At least in my eyes it is. This is how it is when you trip solo and even sometimes when you are with friends. Psychelelics erase some if not all of the outer verneer of consiousness. You will notice the things "under" normal perceptions. Some of it is ultimate truth, some of it's just a trip -- you will know the difference. Trust what you are feeling! I know it feels like a thousand thoughts and no thoughts at the same time, but you'll get used to the feelings. You must fill your mind with the things you want to experience while youre trippind, but be assured if there is something bothering you it will come to the front of you consiousness at some point in the trip. You might feel pressured to make an immediate decision about it at that very time. Avoid this! Tell yourself that you'll listen, but reserve judgement until your sober. Keep in mind the afterglow is intoxicaion as well and not a good time to make deciscisons either. Waiting a few days is usually the best idea. Hope this helps! peace
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: smokescreen]
#10903207 - 08/21/09 07:34 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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thakyou gays for youur answer, its goog to know someone else is experiencing similir things, and I shouldn´t take it as a such a bummer. Thanks
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10964286 - 08/29/09 11:49 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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huh don't see polls like that anymore
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#11071929 - 09/16/09 05:00 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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My first LSD trip triggered a long-lasting severe depression that included some psychotic episodes as well. During and after the experience I realized (or rather, started to believe) what a horrible person I was, being an alcoholic (and all the related jazz). Instead of using this newfound introspection to make my life less of a mess, I plunged myself deep into self-pity and kept drinking heavily every day. After a couple of years of therapy and a couple of visits to a mental institute, I successfully quit alcohol altogether four years ago and eventually recovered from the depression.
After quitting the sauce, I've taken psychedelics again (on a wider scale than before: LSD, HWBR seeds, psilocybin mushrooms and select RCs, and also some substances excluded from this poll), this time with positive results. Although the trips themselves have not always been enjoyable experiences while they lasted, I've certainly got immense amounts of help in dealing with my personal issues. However, based on the limited knowledge I possess about myself and the even more limited knowledge about other human beings, I can't recommend tripping on drugs as a general "cure" for mentally unstable people. That said, I'm thrilled that it has helped me in my quest to regain the happiness I lost at some point in my early childhood.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
#11079044 - 09/17/09 06:07 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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my advice, gained from experience, is don't trip in your parents house.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: sleepy]
#11085375 - 09/18/09 05:55 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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I did.. But it was with my dad
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: grewya]
#11097808 - 09/20/09 09:52 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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grewya20 said: One person has tripped more than a thousand times? Holy Fuck. I must meet this person. 
Im not the 1000+ but 500+ was quite the ride.
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went pretty hard core for like 5 years and I just stopped when I noticed I was eating 30+ hits of good clean acid just for fun. I would drop a ten strip just to play NES or PlayStation almost every day for weeks on end. Ive sat at waters edge and watched a lake burn for a weekend just cuz I couldnt find a place to chill at. at my biggest dose (33 hits) I was spun for a week straight. its all good, now Im married (6yrs) and have a 3yr old lil girl who is the light in my life. I get to be a stay at home dad and "study my spores" in my spare time and teach my lil girl how to be a good person and to love everybody no matter their flaws, we are all human and should always remember knowledge is the key.
but now every couple months I enjoy the fruits of my labor (or a hit of salvia and I likes my buds) while watchin a movie or just going fishing. 
the whole experience has made me better person, more respectful and courteous, I always treat people the way I would want them to treat me.
 
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: sleepy]
#11116761 - 09/23/09 11:29 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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sleepy said: my advice, gained from experience, is don't trip in your parents house. 
holy crap, man. i know EXACTLY what you mean. lol.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: megaman]
#11134578 - 09/26/09 09:50 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's why my first time trying shrooms ended so badly. Basically, I went home a bit too early (5 AM), snuck in through my window, and tried to force myself to stop tripping without having any real knowledge of my mindset while tripping. I'm not sure if it was psychosomatic or if I actually ended up tripping for 14 hours off a single eighth. I got so frustrated that I started gnawing on my arm because I couldn't break something without my parents knowing I was awake. It probably wasn't a good idea to trip for the first time when I had work the next day, either
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: megaman]
#11137057 - 09/27/09 11:26 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok I missed the poll but thought it was a good one so I have to add in my 2c now. I faint from tripping, a good rip of weed will do it to me. With pot it half seems like its from lack of a breath, but at the same time not at all. I've found the I can take a huge hit of weed and a pretty near full breath with it and it's the same as if I would have not taken a breath with it, at the same time I can hold my breath for quite sometime longer than I can hold a hit in and not faint. I don't know if I can hold my breath till I pass out, I've never done it
I usually get a nice pull into my mouth and take a deep breath with it. Long as I put a effort into hitting the bowl(hitting it right), schwag or headies will both do it too me. I find it's usually dose related when I spin out, I think I become so overwhelmed my brain just can't comprehend and I drop to the ground. I've seen it happen many times to others, but they were usually dosed and sucking on a balloon of n20 when they went down and out...
It's like I had some mushrooms just kick in full blast, It'll start with a bit of fuzzy vision(I'll know right then if it's gonna happen, and by then it's too late to prepare for a fall) which transforms into colors shapes and patterns and me being lost in head for a very comfortable moment. I don't smoke pot while driving or standing anymore, I can't it's not safe(for me or others). I pretty much lose function and drop to the ground overwhelmed by the visuals.
The first time it happened I was walking creek side with a friend, I hit the bowl and I started tripping, next thing I remember is sitting up in the creek and being all wet, good thing it was a low one and was nice weather. Ever since then I've been able to pretty much make it happen, it's happened many times since without me trying, I've scared a few people blacking out, it doesn't scare me like the first time when I ended up in a creek
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i have never fainted on psychedelics and voted accordingly, but i've met a few people that have. i've always wondered why that happens, if its just the intensity they can't handle or if there is some medical problem going on or what. i wish there were more research for these things.
Pot will make me faint, blackout, spinout, whatever you call it. Stronger psychedelics I may be out for a prolonged period of time like multiple minutes instead of just a moment with weed. If I don't hit that point while tripping it's like I didn't take enough(like it was a waste and I just kinda got a bit high). Last trip was on lsd+k, I blacked out a lot. Every time I'd black out I'd become overwhelmed in my visuals, to the point where nothing is reconizable from this world. The k and lsd night was a series of overwhelming visual blackouts every other time I'd take the K post peak and it'd push me further than I was. I'd come back around might have gotten to spit a few words out and was back in my head, out.
I think I can answer that one. I included fainting because I saw several reports to that effect in my shroomery years.
I think that in part we are dealing here with a genuine pharmacological effect.
Psychedelics are active on serotonin receptors. Some serotonin receptors are involved with blood pressure.
Combine:
The drug interacting with bloodpressure regulation Hypoglycemia Prolonged periods of sitting motionless, then moving Extreme variable emotions
Any of these alone can make some people faint, with psychedelics they intermingle.
If the faint is due to rapid drop of bloodpressure (which most fainting is) theoretically a rare few people could get a heart rhythm disturbance from such a sudden drop, just like that risk exists for any reason such a drop occurs.
Very interesting, I wonder what makes me "go away", my guess is its partially emotional and I get quite peaceful(do not disturb, lol) I sure hope it's not bad for me, but what fun is life if you don't do "bad things" to yourself. I had tripped quite a few times and smoked pot for quite sometime before I was so overwhelmed I'd faint, blackout, spin out how ever you describe it. I can't say I've never had any negatives from it happening, it's a little odd when someone is walking along and all of the sudden are in a creek looking passed out and confused... I stopped standing while smoking pot after I smacked my head once, only thing I've learned quick in my life, there was no thinking about it. The first time I blacked out was from nothing more than good pot, I gotta say I do enjoy it when I spin off into a kaleidoscope of colors, shapes, and time. Its always very, overwhelmingly visual when it happens, the first couple threw me way off. I went from a normal pothead to weed being very psychedelic. I most definitely get some sort of visuals from pot even after a faint or without it happening at all
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Cognitive_Shift said: Flash backs can result from any intense emotional experience. War, car crash, rape so forth and so on. Before you take a psychedelic, one must be aware of this intense emotional experience, and its positive and negative consequences.
Salvia has left me with like a spot burned in my memory, it sticks out a lot and I do think about it often for it happening years ago now. The most intense trip I've ever had was from a few good pulls from a pipe of salvia and a balloon of n20 as soon as I blew out the last hit. All I have to do is think about it and I'm back there. I went from sitting into a chair to sliding uncontrolled out of it to the ground where I was glued down for a moment or two, or three. I got up and had to ask how long I was out for. I've never had a trip like that again, lsd+k was close, but the visuals were a lot less memorable as was the whole night after the K
My first and only "bad/difficult" trip was a night of my x and I doing nothing more than eating mushrooms and got lost along the way. Don't eat mushroom because your bored, unless you up for a lesson, that's what we did. ate mushrooms due to bordum and received a lesson(that was her last trip, and probably the decline of the relationship). Up until then there hadn't been any confusion or anxiety or anything negative in any of my trips. In the end I gained so much from that trip that I can't wait for a repeat to happen, I hope I freak out again someday, it knocked me down a notch for the best.
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Ophanim said: Mad cognitive shifts, son.
On a side note, I've seen one trend in this thread, as well as in all the research I've done prior. It seems like once people "snap" (this can be HPPD, anxiety, whatever), re-emerging into the world of psychedelics can cause a re-emergence of their problems, but does not seem to worsen them.
That's very interesting to me. It seems as though, if you find your own breed of mental illness, and come out of it a functioning member of society instead of an addition to a mental ward, then at least you know the worst case scenario.
This is just an observation, mind you, not a conclusion.
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i'm a person who put <5x (i joined this forum mostly for cultivation tips) so i gotta ask. doesn't it suck not having a full grasp on reality? don't get me wrong, i love to get high or drunk or trip every now and then, but i also love to wake up the next morning and reflect on the previous night's festivities with a clear, sober mind.
do you ever regret doing so many psychedelics?
I've regretted in the past when it was happening(usually was just not the most convienient setting to be blacking out or close), but looking back at it I'm glad I took the whole trip instead of "getting high"
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The sensory alterations are something I just view as a side effect of something which has allowed me to grow as a spiritual being.
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MisterMuscaria said: I had an intense trip like that myself last year. but are you sure those are mushroom flashbacks? Marijuana in it's own right is known to be a hallucinogen.
I'm guessing that if I stopped smoking pot most everyday I'd stop tripping, I think the longest break I've taken was like a week and believe me it was not by choice.... Pot is the only thing that seems to help my anxiety, I can eat xanax and go to sleep but it does not put me at ease with whatever was making me anxious, I think a bit more rationally when I'm stoned, I'm just glad to have a few rationa; thoughts after so many trips.
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I don't think those are flashbacks mang. Marijuana will very frequently take on the properties of other psychedelics you do regularly. I no longer have to eat mushrooms at all. At this point, the only way to have a "good old" weed high is to drink some alcohol first and smoke after I'm drunk. That will turn it back into a shallow, giggly experience real quick.
I'll agree with the response to that fully, sounds like pot is psychedelic for Ophanim to an extent. If I have a drink or two I won't spin out on pot for a moment, it's not anywhere near as enjoyable like that(without the fainting)I'd rather drink alcohol without pot....that never happens though. I haven't gotten all giggly from pot since I first started smoking it. Even then it was hit and miss like a normal trip is for me, sometimes I'll be over joyous for seemingly no reason, and that makes me smile and giggle more
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dondoodle said: Suggestions for improving the poll, ask for specific adverse effects, this is a general poll a poll with more specific information including times tripped, doses and other information is very desireable. You got the ball rolling so that is commendable.
That was more of what I was expecting, specific symptoms in the poll, synesthesia remarks, thought loops "taking too much"(a matter of setting IMO, hard to judge) those other confusing but possibly fun things that happen fro taking psychedelics. I think one of the things I like the most is the fact they(psychedelics) can leave you crying and scared or so happy and joyous you can't control the laughing. The total loss in control of life helps me to be a better person. I've cared for many that were tripping way harder than expected, I've also been cared for many times too, I tend to go all the way or not at all.
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Maybe somebody can help/advice me : I�ve read a lot before tripping.I read about how shrooms make you see somethings that are "normally hidden, how they make you realize about some truths. So, that�s what I was expecting when 1rst tripping.
Then when tripping I realized how superficial everything in life is (i mean Everything, even love, life it self), I started to think about why life is such a mess , why the persons can be so mean, why this why that and so on and on. I got NO answers ,only questions about life. One big question was: why i am tripping about this??? I wanted trip about others things, nature, see things, see elves whatever but not this. That got me kind of depressed, when sobber. Now almost everything for me in life is big question mark, with no answer. I have only tripped 3 times, I want to trip more, but I dont want to get deeper and deeper, questioning everthing .Everytime I trip I start to think and think and i dont like that, I do enjoy the visuals. Maybe Iif I eat more dosage, i �d loose myself and mental control. and the thinking would be over, and the enviroment would lead my thoughts. I don�t know.. ADVICES?
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I've had to deal with anxiety attacks since before I knew what they were or what was happening to me, thinking about it now I think it was and still is a control situation that will do it to me(bring out the anxiety or put me into an anxiety attack). I think you should question everything, learn from you're questions, ask more but try not to ask one and not answer it, I'm sure some will stay unanswered. IMO life is "superficial everything in life is (i mean Everything, even love, life it self), I started to think about why life is such a mess , why the persons can be so mean,..." I think this is because most people suck and don't have any compassion for others. We just don't care about each other enough to be able to see from the other side and have compassion towards a fellow human. Sometimes people just get shit on so many times you can't blame them for being an asshole(stepdad...and well I guess even then it's not an excuse to be an asshole) it''s a part of their life and will be brought to yours, all you can do is nothing sometimes
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holy crap, man. i know EXACTLY what you mean. lol.
I don't understand, why are you all so afraid of your parents? Does you're family shun you for drug use? Like my fathers side of the family(grandparents) do to me(fuck em!!) outcast do to no understanding. I smoke pot mainly for anxiety(the reason I tried it, I was anxious) but still would if I wasn't anxious. One of the things I enjoy most in life are the conversations I have with my mom after I trip. I don't know why but she always seems to want to chat when I'm still putting the pieces back in place, and I'm always up for it some reason. I'm lucky I guess, I get stories from my mom like this one day we took too much pcp and one of are friends was lost in a closet for hours... haha I've been the on sitting outside the closet just as she has. We'll burn together every now and again, I'd absolutely love to trip with my mom. It's still weird for both of us(smoking pot) to do in front of each other(I thank the US gov't for all their propaganda, probably why it's weird still) and I don't know why, but it is as it is. I like knowing that if I'm home and I trip if I need something there is someone there for me. I'd rather not be stumbling, slurring, drunk than mid trip, I'm much more clear when I'm not spun out. When I moved back home last time I had a flush of mushrooms on a casing to be picked and she was cool about it, mushrooms brought my mom and I closer with out eating them. She has said that aside from pot and booze mushrooms are all her and her friends would consider taking anymore. Too much stuff to do to have a head full of cid, I'm glad I'm not there and jealous at the same time. I hope there is never a time in my life where I can't set some time aside to trip hard as possible.
I'd also like to add I've experienced a few other side effects from psychedelics. I've gotten jaw tension/clenching from acid, also a sore back. Psychedelic bathroom time... Going #1 isn't any prob, but #2 I feel as close to giving birth as I ever will, myself being male it'd be hard to truly understand. I can't eat psychedelics with a full stomach, it'll gurgle and bubble and I'll half feel like shit the whole time, I just can't get into the trip. Specifically mushrooms will give me nausea if I take them with any food in me. I usually can't bring myself to eat anything until I've been back to square one for a few hours. I've been delusional, confused, had synesthesia(multiple time each different) thought loops are about the worst I've had they aren't fun and usually I need someone to snap me out, it'll pass eventually if I'm alone. I prefer to trip home alone with no one around, makes it hard to get in trouble and I think about my loved ones more when on solo runs. I don't have any trip partners anymore, trust is lacking in my circles of friends and they are also dissapating to just person or two rather than groups of people that would chill together, growing up sucks everyone has gotten so busy they forget about what got them to where they are and what, who and how they loved the friends they did.
OK, no more meth for me I type too much. I'd love to hear some responses, mostly about reason why weed brings me to my knees in a kaleidoscope.
Off to space... probably not xanax takes away from weed(for me anyway) but it's late and I just took my bedtime dose before my bedtime bowl, (x4 the xanax due to being up a few days on meth)I get very intense visuals after or during any meth use, so I have to much down like 2mg just to be able to burn some weed(makes meth even better, a bonus of sort). If I'm lucky I'll wake up with a half burnt bowl that is still in my hand from before I fell comatose sleeping ready to help start another long boring sunday.
Night, night shroomery, I was away for a while(aside from poking in to see the candy thread) and I really missed you all. Great poll WS, wish I could have been a statistic for once!
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that shit took forever to type and I was fried form sleep loss and xanax kicking in, thankfully it was here to post this morning
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: 13shrooms]
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grewya20 said: One person has tripped more than a thousand times? Holy Fuck. I must meet this person. 
Im not the 1000+ but 500+ was quite the ride.
since '94
went pretty hard core for like 5 years and I just stopped when I noticed I was eating 30+ hits of good clean acid just for fun. I would drop a ten strip just to play NES or PlayStation almost every day for weeks on end. Ive sat at waters edge and watched a lake burn for a weekend just cuz I couldnt find a place to chill at. at my biggest dose (33 hits) I was spun for a week straight. its all good, now Im married (6yrs) and have a 3yr old lil girl who is the light in my life. I get to be a stay at home dad and "study my spores" in my spare time and teach my lil girl how to be a good person and to love everybody no matter their flaws, we are all human and should always remember knowledge is the key.
but now every couple months I enjoy the fruits of my labor (or a hit of salvia and I likes my buds) while watchin a movie or just going fishing. 
the whole experience has made me better person, more respectful and courteous, I always treat people the way I would want them to treat me.
 
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beautiful post man. Really.
Psychedelics are good. In moderation.
I find meditation is better though. It is exactly the same except the peace comes from totally within you, you don't need anything else but what is already inside of you waiting to blossom out in the most clear, calm and peaceful way.
I get physical feelings of warmth, softness and acidy like stuff all the time man. Its weird, like i was on this kick about how my lips were so soft i could feel the youthful energy in them and stuff... yeah its weird.
Theres some freaks out there. I mean I'm a freak too, no question about it. I don't know, though. I just find it feels so damn good to be alive, sober. I definitely don't feel "sober" at all. I feel happy. I want to share it with everyone.
I've done acid like 50 times. I don't really care to do it anymore, but I am interested in DMT and shroomies.
I used to be a bit of an alcoholic too. That shit is just bad, I really see it rampant here in portland. everyone is kind of an alcoholic and doesn't even know it. maybe its like that everywhere though. I'm not gonna lost sleep over it.
Shrooms taught me a lot, too. I just love being at ease with my deepest darkest fears, just being a breeze. Incarnate.
Life is good. This is an excellent thread.
this is what I'm talkin' about :
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Ozekat]
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Anyone experiencing non-drug induced cognitive shifts? I know i love my cognitive shifts
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
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this site is amazing...i'm new to mushrooms (i have researched them for months before experimenting with) but have taken them twice and they are by far my new love drug. i've also messed around with some acid, molly, ecstacy, salvia, WEEEEED, and i just took the pole but can't find out where to see the results. can someone help me out
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: omtb]
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If you are looking for a fun visual trip with still being in control of your mind, i would try acid (LSD) I've never had a bad trip....amazing visuals and an all around fun time...also a pretty in-expensive drug to trip for 8 hours or so. I've shroomed twice and dosed (LSD) about 7 or 8 and they are by far both amazing. But i seem like i have more control of my thoughts on LSD.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
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how do i view the pole results
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: thebragginator]
#11246011 - 10/14/09 12:22 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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the results are in the very first post on page 1. it changes after you have taken the poll.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
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nice to meet you.
LOL!! not what i expected... <33
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
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has anybody ever gotten into DXM. I'm kind of embarrased by my past with it because it sounds so dirty to get high on cough medicine, but in high school I had it down to a science. If I smoked enough weed to get me high as the effects of the DXM were coming on it launched me into a truly psychedelic experience different from either of the drugs used separately. The effects varied with dose but were usually characterized by severe loss of motor skills and dream-like out of body experiences...extreme euphoria. I've given it up for good because of the adverse effects I started noticing(and once i got my hands on some mushrooms). I think DXM definitely had some negative effects on my life that took me a long time to get over, but mushrooms and acid have never had any lasting negative effects for me. I find that they actually help me get my priorities and beliefs in order. I feel like they make me truly myself, absent of all outside influence. "mind manifesting" not to say I haven't had difficult experiences, but they always tend to bring up some source of conflict so that it can be worked through. If you're willing to go where the trip takes you, you almost always arrive better than you were.
On another note I've been becoming increasingly fascinated by the comparison of acid and mushrooms and the variances of experience from person to person with the two. I personally prefer mushrooms as acid tends to give me uncomfortable sensations in my gut and sometimes make me a bit overly emotional. A friend of mine prefers acid though becuase he experiences almost exactly the same negative effects on mushrooms. Maybe it's just the coincidences of our mindsets when we each dosed our respective favorites. Who knows?
Any thoughts? Specifically on the comparison and contrast of psilocybin and LSD??
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
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i like this poll but clearly these are effects that are the extremes of the spectrum and rarely occurs.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Gratephil914]
#11271122 - 10/18/09 11:37 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sometimes when i get really high on marijuana it can kick start confusing thought loops, thought patterns and "trippyness" of it all. That's about it tho
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
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Can we post trip reports here?
If not is there a place/thread for that?
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: MelloMetalMan]
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: 13shrooms]
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I've never fainted on a trip but I've come close to it once... and yes, it's low blood pressure due to intense emotions of anxiety or fear. When the doctor took my blood pressure on my last trip, he said it was dangerously low. Probably the result of puking too many times, sweating like a maniac and having multiple panick attacks.
I gained an adverse effect from tripping that at least an important fraction of this board must have. Constant anxiety. I can always feel rapid and omnipresent fasciculations going on through my body. This anxiety has led me to believe that I had multiple sclerosis, HPPD, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, derealisation disorder and a shit load of other minor conditions. I have turned into a hypochondriac, but it has been getting better these last few months. I'm going to have my first trip in 5 months tomorrow night. Should I do it?
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: FHY]
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I'm going to have my first trip in 5 months tomorrow night. Should I do it?
only you can answer that question. do it if you truly want to!
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I'm going to have my first trip in 5 months tomorrow night. Should I do it?
only you can answer that question. do it if you truly want to!
Yeah but will my anxiety bust my balls while I'm tripping? And can I stop it like I can stop it when I'm sober? I really want to but I just don't want to have another bad trip, just a chilled out one.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: FHY]
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I'm going to have my first trip in 5 months tomorrow night. Should I do it?
only you can answer that question. do it if you truly want to!
Yeah but will my anxiety bust my balls while I'm tripping? And can I stop it like I can stop it when I'm sober? I really want to but I just don't want to have another bad trip, just a chilled out one.
shrooms make my anxiety and OCDs go away for a week or so after dosing.
I get paranoid during the first 30min or so then relaxed for the rest of the trip then Im good for awile.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: 13shrooms]
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I did the poll but there are some inaccuracies in the questions - for example last time I did shrooms was over 8 years ago. I was a carefree user - but I did have bad trips as time went on! But not at the beginning for a long time.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: thetruthfairy]
#11398972 - 11/06/09 01:57 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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I came close to fainting from marijuana one time upon standing up (my field of vision went colorful for like a full 60 seconds, lightheaded, floating feeling), but I've never fainted from LSD/shrooms/ecstasy.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: jdub61]
#11428723 - 11/10/09 07:22 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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ive fainted from smoking weed after Ecstasy, and ever since i did x i would always get light headed and faint and TRIP. maybe it aint a phenomena
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Bombdro]
#11446340 - 11/13/09 06:05 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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once when i took 500mg of mescaline and smoked 1/4 of a gram of cannabis after a 48 hour fast, i was hit with a classic 'in over my head' trip. i couldn't shake the constant severe paranoia and anxiety that i felt for the next week. it was my fault though, for not having a better setting.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Avid]
#11456051 - 11/14/09 06:44 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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There's a few problems with this poll... For example, I wouldn't say my memory has gotten better or worse, but it definitely functions differently. Occasionally it's beneficial while other times it's burdensome, etcetera
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Krash Kharma]
#11485016 - 11/19/09 10:55 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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that was interesting poll. I enjoyed taking it.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: faeriechild86]
#11611906 - 12/08/09 05:53 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Epic poll.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
#11708783 - 12/23/09 08:18 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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This poll has a LOT of potential to really clarify a LOT of stuff. I mean, we could collect data on strains, drugs--specifics like LSD differences and species of shrooms--cubes vs cyans and such. Maybe I get too excited about research, but getting IRB certified for research isn't hard--finding someone with a PhD to put their name on it as a co-investigator is the challenge.
I'd be willing to work with some people to help construct a survey--or a series of surveys that can be used to acquire a more fine tuned pool of data. Not that we'd get published or anything, but it would be some serious data that would be great for people to have. We can have a variety of data that could be added to as people expand their knowledge and experiences with these types of drugs.
Thoughts?
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: prozak812]
#11720813 - 12/26/09 09:38 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey cool 450 shroomites are 18-22 like me.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#11723407 - 12/26/09 09:08 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Adverse effects? http://entheogenic.podOmatic.com/entry/2009-12-25T15_54_47-08_00
He wrote what I thought was a great book (Being Human), then he quickly went off the deep end!
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Breakfast Crew]
#11725669 - 12/27/09 10:32 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Breakfast Crew said: Hey cool 450 shroomites are 18-22 like me. 
The average user of LSD in the united states are educated white males between the ages of 18-23.
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Breakfast Crew said: Hey cool 450 shroomites are 18-22 like me. 
The average user of LSD in the united states are educated white males between the ages of 18-23.
That is pretty cool information to know. What is LSD made of? It's not very natural is it?
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: prozak812]
#11726988 - 12/27/09 02:35 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Its semi-synthetic.
(produced by chemical alteration of a natural starting material)
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Cool, I'm just trying to understand the relationship between the different drugs (LSD and Shrooms) without actually having done both. So what is the natural starting material for LSD? I guess I could do a searc, but this thread's open, right?
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: prozak812]
#11727259 - 12/27/09 03:41 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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prozak812 said: So what is the natural starting material for LSD?
Ergot A type of fungus the contains ergotamine, which is used to synthesize lysergic acid, an analog of and precursor for synthesis of LSD.
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Very interesting. Thanks for the info... Crazy how things evolve...
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: prozak812]
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mine was too intense to describe....homegrown and amazing.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: jordantyler]
#12071196 - 02/21/10 01:01 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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The best part of this poll is that 29% of the people are daily weed smokers... Higher than any other option... (no pun intended)  
 
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Oreganic]
#12071279 - 02/21/10 01:19 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Oreganic said: The best part of this poll is that 29% of the people are daily weed smokers.
that don't surprise me one bit
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: mycelium-man]
#12082523 - 02/23/10 09:39 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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I tripped on cid about fifteen times when I was about fourteen years old. The five first trips were the funniest and most fun experiences of my life, but then things changed all at once while watching movies with some friends. Then I had some ten bad trips. The bad trips made me really want to clean up and live to which end I learned TM and followed Maharishi in the 80s. The first two years I spent meditating I was very organically conflicted and had a headache in my forehead. A headache I had for two years which I blamed on the hyper conflicted organic substance of my brain - but during another stretch of a few months at one point I heard my brain make new pathways - I heard my own synapses firing at night. My brain somehow became more convoluted and more able to bridge seemingly conflicting qualities. I eventually became a Buddhist. If it weren't for acid, who the hell knows what I would be doing now, or how I would perceive my surroundings. The mystical perspective I have obtained as well, is all from one night or another tripping back in my youth.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: eve69]
#12090116 - 02/24/10 03:45 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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what is wrong with some of these shroom posters?
" is mdma considered tripping " ? " is salvia to be counted " ?
You all need to educate yourselfs before you trip on shrooms.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: bargem]
#12129230 - 03/02/10 04:37 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Well lots of people just get started out on shrooms because they hear they are safer and far less intense than some things like acid or e without knowing a whole lot about the others. Personally I think starting on acid (all this after some experience with green of course) is the best way to go because its free of that paranoia that shrooms bring sometimes.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: tvlxql9x]
#12187534 - 03/11/10 11:13 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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This is a long read. Essentially this is what I sent to a shamanic center as an inquiry. But this is my biggest problem, I ahve a VERY hard time letting go and accepting loss of controlI feel that my ego feels challenged. Anyways here is my story.
I am currently practicing to become a shaman practitioner, although I believe I might have the genuine shaman's call. I started out when I was 16 smoking marijuana and wanted to experience Magic Mushrooms (back the I knew nothing of shamans or spirits), and when I turned 17 I finally got hold of some. When I took them the first time it was just a fun time, I can barely recall it. The second time I took them. I got showered in knowledge about the spirit realm and how babies in a mothers stomach got their spirit I also learned about the tree of life(divides physical and Spirit realms). I also learned about the way people choose to run their life and how oblivious they can be toward certain aspects of life. It completely changed my beliefs and outlooks! I loved my new way of seeing. When I took them the third time I realized that life in western culture is a complete failure and that the reality that these people bring on themselves is fake and just leeches from mother earth. I also learned that just because what percieve as reality isnt necessarily actualality and that mdoern culture is just a closed up group of people disconnected to the earth. Then I took them again about a week later. As the trip came up 2 of my friends showed up at my house drunk and beat up from a terrible bail on his skateboard. They were argueing with each as to who caused it and I had to kick the one guy out. Then my friend asked if I could buy him some smoke and just as I was about to walk out the door I passed out while I was standing. I was flying through hallways until my trip (he was there since the beginning, we were tripping together) friend slapped me until I was awake and the other friend had 911 dialed on the phone ready to press talk. I instantly started freaking out and bad tripping. I felt poisoned and felt loss of control. Sick to my stomach and scarred. I eventually got out of it and managed to sleep. The next time I took it was Canada Day and it was shear impulse. It was mushrooms tea and I thought i would jsut trip alone and before they even came up I realized all the OTHER possbilities of what I could do that day and thought maybe I could get out of it by throwing it up. I tried to and instantly I started getting a panic reaction and felt I had made myself trapped. My skin went white and I was sweating profusely. About 2 weeks after this I developed general anxiety disorder (what westerners call it) and get random bouts of fear. I get fear especially when I get weird feeling around my body or when I feel vulnerable.Its a feeling of impending doom and loosing control and being envelopped in reality, I think I have angered the plant spirits with my abuse of mushrooms. I understand to this day that the world in modern culture is a fake paradise and that there reality is only percieved to be real but is slowly killing the earth. I get very psychic moments where ill think about something with a friend and the phone will ring and it will be that friend concerning the matter I was thinking about. Or I will think I see sometin out the corner of my eye and it quickly goes away. Or I will be thinking the same thing as someone else randomly, but constantly. I recently stopped smoking pot because im aware that a good shaman is also grounded when he needs to be and pot leaves residual effects for days after. So I gave up my joyeus habit for my spiritual growth as a man of knowledge.
During my childhood I was always told what to and not do and my parents acted very paranoid and strict towards certain aspects of my life. My dad is a alcoholic and I have to deal with many fights in our household due to his drunkardness. 10-12 beers a day. If its of any relevance
So this was 3 summers ago.... And here I am today with the same problem. I have been over a month and a half without marijuana.
Does anyone have any insight as to how I can learn to voyage again and break the resistence and fears. Taking a psychedelic is impossible for me now because whenever I think about it Ig et scarred and get afraid of being trapped and soo on. I realize its for spirituality but if you want to stop the trip u cant and this is what caused my problem on Canada day.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: quiksilver98]
#12212737 - 03/16/10 12:31 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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good poll.......
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-"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one"
-"Not until we are lost do we begin to understand ourselves"
-“We are the facilitators of our own creative evolution.”
-“Watching television is like taking black spray paint to your third eye.”
-“If you don't think drugs have done good things for us, then take all of your records, tapes and CD's and burn them.”
-“They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference.”
 
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Splurge]
#12250199 - 03/22/10 04:26 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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this is a very good poll. will we be able to see the results? and if we do do u know when?
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: blackcrayon]
#12250240 - 03/22/10 04:33 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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ok nvm i figured out how to see the results
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: blackcrayon]
#12264120 - 03/24/10 03:57 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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i have yet to trip!
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i have yet to trip!
WHAT THE FUCK MAN GET YOUR ASS SOME PSYCHOACTIVES PRONTO!!!
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-"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one"
-"Not until we are lost do we begin to understand ourselves"
-“We are the facilitators of our own creative evolution.”
-“Watching television is like taking black spray paint to your third eye.”
-“If you don't think drugs have done good things for us, then take all of your records, tapes and CD's and burn them.”
-“They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference.”
 
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Justice_Fish]
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I wish scientists would do some research on phycadelcis so we wouldnt have to look way back on the 60's
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: legit27]
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legit27 said: I wish scientists would do some research on phycadelcis so we wouldnt have to look way back on the 60's
there are plenty of brilliant minds rearing to do these types of studies but they are vastly limited in what they can do. it's sad really, that politicians, drenched in ignorance and willing to go any shameless route they need to in order to get votes, get to tell scientists what they can and can't study. it's such a huge crock of shit... check out MAPS for more info.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#12343796 - 04/06/10 04:37 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Interesting results.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: suburbanned]
#12351743 - 04/07/10 08:15 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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suburbantoker said: "Sometimes I wonder, If I know where I am going. I go for a walk and it seems like I have been walking for years and years and I don't know where I'm going. I hear the sound leading me on."
Did these words come from your mind? Either way, I understand (as much as one person can understand another's perspective) exactly what you (or whoever) means. That's comforting.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#12356156 - 04/08/10 02:54 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Why are theyre people that voted for, anything under 19? i thought that was how old you had to be to get on this site. and i dont understand why shroomery doesnt include teenagers. Thats when they start to get into psychedelics and canabis.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: legit27]
#12367402 - 04/10/10 12:06 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Only tripped about 9 times but, how I see things has literally changed. Driving down the street I used to look at houses and buildings, but now I don't even notice. Instead I'm checking out the plants and trees.
Trees and plants seem to be much more exciting. I mean they look different. Its like a switch flipped in my brain and my entire world is much more exciting.
I'd compare it to being blind and being able to see again but I've never been blind.
Has anyone else had this eye opening experience?
It started right after my first time.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: cpuppy]
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Yeah, man. I was opened up way more to nature after my first trip. I was 18 just laying on the grass in May, dew just soaking my shirt and I was just like... "nature, man. it's beautiful". And I watched the world for about 2 hours from that grassy spot.
Now every time I trip, only about 8 times since then, I always take time to look at trees and really appreciate that they've been around for so fuckin' long. A lot more when I'm sober too.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Feed Your Head]
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I must add that although I had a 'flashback' twice, these where not unpleasant experiences. I contribute these experiences to new insights my mind has gained through mushroom use. On both accounts I was a bit tired, and there where slight visual distortions similar to those in a trip. Which I could evoke by concentrating.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#12442444 - 04/23/10 06:56 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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The problem I see with the poll is that all of the questions address mostly negative things.
For me, I feel level headed for about a week after a good trip, and often I find myself not smoking weed (daily smoker) during those times.
While I am tripping, I am talkative, insightful and often find myself assessing much of my life and the conflicts present in it.
Ive never experienced flashbacks, fainting (never heard of anyone doing that, or many of the things listed).
Most people will vouch for the way I feel, and I think that if you do not get these positive experiences from tripping then you should stick to other substances.
I have recently started tripping again (after a 3 year hiatus), and I am so glad I did. It is probably a good time in my life for it. My mood has completely changed for the better, as well as my social interactions and relationships. My head is clear and I can focus easier on assignments and anything else that requires it.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: legit27]
#12442930 - 04/23/10 09:23 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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legit27 said: Why are theyre people that voted for, anything under 19? i thought that was how old you had to be to get on this site. and i dont understand why shroomery doesnt include teenagers. Thats when they start to get into psychedelics and canabis.
the answer is simple. liability.
if you provide information on drugs, or cultivation to a teenager and their parents find out, what do you think happens? a campaign against the shroomery.
the clause is there just so the shroomery can say "Well, our terms of service specifically states no minors are allowed to join." This washes the shroomery's hands of any liability.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: emu103]
#12458846 - 04/26/10 09:16 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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This was a good survey- on a place like this its nice to see a big 'n' population for results. One limitation in this is that it is a study of a very specific subgroup (people on a drug forum). This could skew the results given that we can assume those on the shroomery are at least a little more informed than your general individual.
Nice job. It is very interesting to learn more about this community.
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I really like this poll. I put that I use weed almost daily, although I haven't in the past 6 months, but I also haven't tripped in longer than that. During the time I was tripping though, I used weed almost every day. I don't feel that tripping has negatively affected my life overall; for a couple days after the trip, I usually feel a little fried, like my brain and body are trying to reset themselves.
Overall, I think tripping has made me a better person, even the more negative trips. I think if you go through something like that, and come out fine on the other side, it's only going to make you stronger.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#12584690 - 05/18/10 09:03 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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As to flashbacks, Salvia to me is of way greater concern that serotonin psychedelics. With my limited salvia experience I had several clearcut Salvia flashbacks - and none on almost 250 trips in 16 years.
I agree that Salvia is a much greater concern. But I don't see flashbacks as a problem at all. When I'm tripping is when I'm truly sober. It's when I have no fears, no limitations. Peace. true Spiritual Peace. I've never had a bad experience tripping. So a flashback to me is just a glance back at a wonderful moment in my life. Idk. To each is own I guess.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: The.Hatter]
#12638118 - 05/27/10 11:04 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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looks like HPPD is more prevalent then I thought :P
glad its not just me
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Jupiter]
#12734520 - 06/13/10 01:41 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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cool
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Dagon]
#12751569 - 06/16/10 08:42 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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I haven't really tripped on shrooms much, only half a dozen times.
It's been about 3 weeks since my last trip.
In the last few days, I've been getting a really strange sensation, quite noticable, several times a day.
It feels like the very start of coming up, a little 'dizzy'. It lasts maybe 10 minutes, then I'm fine for a few more hours. I think I'm getting very minor visuals, things seem a little wavy for a second, but I'm not sure if I'm just imagining it (well, I'm imagining it anyway, but, you know)
It's a bit annoying, but isn't really anything strong, but noticable. I've never had anything like this before tripping, and I'm not (nor have I ever) been on medication for anything.
Honestly, I'm worried if I trip more, then it might get stronger. Though I have far too many shrooms to waste, so it probably won't stop me, all my trips have been awesome - with friends or solo
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Frinkz]
#12752002 - 06/16/10 10:21 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Frinkz said: In the last few days, I've been getting a really strange sensation, quite noticable, several times a day.
It feels like the very start of coming up, a little 'dizzy'. It lasts maybe 10 minutes, then I'm fine for a few more hours. I think I'm getting very minor visuals, things seem a little wavy for a second, but I'm not sure if I'm just imagining it (well, I'm imagining it anyway, but, you know)
That's just your mind being freed from the confines of reality
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: illuminati]
#12752349 - 06/16/10 11:37 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Haha, well I'm not sure about that for an explanation :P
But I definitely feel physically different now than I did a month ago.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Frinkz]
#12763907 - 06/18/10 01:09 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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I took a hit of mescaline at a local music festival last Saturday, I'll post the trip report soon. But since that trip I haven't felt quite the same, I've seen grass shifting out of the corner of my eyes just a few days ago. And I still am in a very odd state of mind compared to what I was before. I can't say I'm really upset about it though, I feel more at peace than I have ever before. I can't wait to try mescaline again.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: hansarvin]
#12764482 - 06/18/10 02:58 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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hansarvin said: I took a hit of mescaline at a local music festival last Saturday, I'll post the trip report soon. But since that trip I haven't felt quite the same, I've seen grass shifting out of the corner of my eyes just a few days ago. And I still am in a very odd state of mind compared to what I was before. I can't say I'm really upset about it though, I feel more at peace than I have ever before. I can't wait to try mescaline again.
Is this really an adverse effect in that case? From the sound of it, you are experiencing what many people call the "Afterglow".
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I wouldn't think an afterglow would last that long, I still feel as weird as I have since then.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: hansarvin]
#12775219 - 06/20/10 05:55 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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I wouldn't worry too much about it. I have had such feelings for a week or more in the past. It could be anything really; something you ate, the way the trip affected you emotionally or mentally, ect. If it isn't a problem, I wouldn't think on it too much.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: moe.phan]
#12776971 - 06/21/10 12:29 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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moe.phan said:
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grewya20 said: One person has tripped more than a thousand times? Holy Fuck. I must meet this person. 
nice to meet you.
LOL!
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Mushrooms (to me) seem to be a metaphorical rag that polishes mind. I have had several mild trips that were relaxed and at the most, anxious. However my last trip was all messed up. I was in an unfamiliar setting with a friend who, on top of having just had just had his head stapled up after a bad car accident, I had not seen since he experienced his parents divorce a year or two earlier.
I was not in a good place emotionally and psychologically either, added to which I ended up driving a car whilst peaking.
The most traumatic part started when I drove us all to the lookout next to a monumental-sized mobile phone tower where magnificent views encompass my entire city. It was a clear, starry night and when I looked out to space my whole world fell apart and I was just shit.
After the all-encompassing infinity of space attacked me and the psychic equivalent of my feet were literally swept from the ground, the figures of my friend's faces and bodies began to radiate out in the most intense coloured prisms, almost like the reality of their carbon bodies were being peeled away revealling light.
I saw ufo's and I knew I just had no choice but to deal with my reality shattering. I was completely in the 'tell friends to call the hospital' stage. Perhaps the only reason that did not happen, was because I had already had some experience with being involuntarily admitted to hospital by psychiatrists after my father passed away and, I suspect that may have helped me to have some courage to face what I was seeing. But that fact truly made it no less difficult.
I did my best to stomach the entire ordeal, keeping my experience a secret and 'under the covers' for years. It was just so powerful and I have only just begun to feel like I am *attempting* to integrate it into my life. My ego panics wildly to avoid reliving the full trauma of associating with experience, especially at night when I go for a walk and lift my eyes out to space.
So I consider the experience to be negative. I feel like I have done the whole Syd Barret thing and all I have to say is that I feel so completely stupid. I may have literally fucked up my life due to one *fatal* error in planning.
I am typing this now, but I am going to click 'submit' mostly in the hope of maybe reaching out to someone; not because i care to be laughed at by people who are smarter than me.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Michael.T]
#12811689 - 06/27/10 10:22 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Someone laughing at another's bad trip would clearly not be smarter than you. The experienced tripper knows that bad trips happen- in fact, the bad ones can sometimes be the most influential in a positive way in the long term (the bad ones sometimes teach us the most about ourselves).
Staring into the stars that night could have been horrifying due to your psychological state, but the next time you look up there on mushrooms may be the most spiritual experience of your life. You just never really know.
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Staring at the stars while on psychedelics (actually even sober sometimes) is about the only time I've ever felt that I've been able to actually grasp the concept of "infinity." What an amazing sense of wonder...
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: illuminati]
#12868066 - 07/08/10 02:30 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: orange-fuzz]
#12868793 - 07/08/10 04:28 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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orange-fuzz said: <a href="http://photobucket.com/images/kurt%20cobain%20dead" target="_blank"><img src="http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k4/hisxjuggalettex/kurtcobain.jpg" border="0" alt="Kurt Cobain\'s Dead Body.... :{ Pictures, Images and Photos"/></a>
Cool Cobain pic bro.
(You have to write that shit into the import image box for it to work right.)
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I only get flashbacks if I'm already high on pot. That's the only time I can tell I've even used psychedelics other than just thinking back to trips which is always positive.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: jellyfish]
#12907148 - 07/16/10 12:13 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Interesting poll, glad to see I am not alone in some of those. Of course I just learned that I have a disorder the other day, HPPD. I thought that hit I took 10+ years ago would have worn of my now.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: anunnakian]
#12934610 - 07/22/10 08:32 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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The only flashbacks I experience are extreme halos that come off of lights. They are so noticeable at night but I am not too worried about it. These are from countless 2c-E trips and 4-AcO-DMT trips. Any idea if these will go away if I sustain from psychedelics for a number of months?
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: jooba]
#12934645 - 07/22/10 08:45 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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jooba said: The only flashbacks I experience are extreme halos that come off of lights. They are so noticeable at night but I am not too worried about it. These are from countless 2c-E trips and 4-AcO-DMT trips. Any idea if these will go away if I sustain from psychedelics for a number of months?
Light effects (vision effects) come more frequently from chemicals with DMT groups, in my experiences. Should in no way be permanent.
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Very nice poll and good questions.
But to be honest, I was expectgin more people to say that psychedelics made their function in the society worse.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: illuminati]
#12998304 - 08/03/10 07:25 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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illuminati said: Staring at the stars while on psychedelics (actually even sober sometimes) is about the only time I've ever felt that I've been able to actually grasp the concept of "infinity." What an amazing sense of wonder...
Word!
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: circastes]
#13071815 - 08/18/10 11:27 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Heh, hard to believe, I've tripped more than over half the people on this board ... but I was in the top percentage of age too, so I'd bet that has something to do with it. Anyway, it's good to be a member of such a kickass community. I just joined. I haven't tripped in 3+ years now (had a gf who hated drugs but was willing to compromise on weed). Well, she's an ex now, so I can once again explore the psyche. I plan to be an active member and contribute my own experiences while I benefit from the wealth of yours here. So good to be a psychonaut again.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#13095013 - 08/24/10 10:23 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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nice poll will we get to see the results?
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Copes]
#13112734 - 08/28/10 01:04 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Copes said: nice poll will we get to see the results?
Page 1?
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: squeeg]
#13146359 - 09/04/10 09:31 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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ok, honestly..who's the one tripping more than a thousand times?
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Fruitbuddy]
#13192620 - 09/14/10 01:00 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Great poll, my only negative experience was my first and only trip on LSD, foolishly I took two tabs, as I was 17 and stupid. A dozen or so mushroom trips with ZERO negative effects, although many of my friends have had bad experiences with them.
I feel that my initial bad trip has inoculated me somewhat to 'the fear', but that is just a theory, and I don't assume that I'm immune to bad trips, but I'm better informed, more responsible and more respectful of psychodelics.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: MiceHelium]
#13204703 - 09/16/10 01:19 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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ok....
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Tripke]
#13206196 - 09/16/10 06:32 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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interesting poll. what about a poll about beneficial effects of sacremental entheogenic substances, or is there already one? because i think that these substances profoundly change peoples lives.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: veritas.socal]
#13206939 - 09/16/10 09:07 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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veritas.socal said: interesting poll. what about a poll about beneficial effects of sacremental entheogenic substances, or is there already one? because i think that these substances profoundly change peoples lives.
 cool story bro!
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Avid]
#13281238 - 10/02/10 07:11 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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i recently had my most severe adverse effect from my use of psychedelics. i've been tripping very frequently for the past two months. quite a few marathon trips in there as well. very frequently- and i full well knew the risk involved i just honestly don't afraid of that lol. i've been taking extreme care of my body and mind by constantly exercising, taking lots of vitamins and supplements (5-htp, melatonin, b1-12, among many others). and for two months i tripped (usually VERY hard) two to three times a week. and i felt amazing 24/7- at the greatest physical and mental peak i've been at in my life- but last weekend i was partying with some friends and we decided to trip lightly so we did. we stayed up through the night and the next day tripping and crashed sunday night.
what i'm getting to--> i woke up this past monday morning and something wasn't right. i was out of it.
 i was in this fried out state of mind to somewhat varying degrees up until thursday, and not feeling completely better until friday afternoon.
through it i fully realized that everything was kinda turned off, or distorted. it was weird that i was doing chemistry and calculus more easily than i ever have.. but i was still behaving very oddly, my perceptions were so alien and retarded. i was very happy the whole time too. with a very clear inner-voice and linear thoughts, which is uncommon for me.
possibly incidentally, but noteworthy- the onset of this happened three weeks after i had stopped taking my bi-daily dose of 100mg of 5-htp. i started the 5-htp again along with abstaining from pot (which aggravated it) on tuesday after i noticed the effects monday morning. and on thurday night, the symptoms had been relieved, and by friday they were gone.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: seanommmmmmm]
#13290046 - 10/04/10 05:31 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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comparison and contrast of psilocybin and LSD??
The very first difference one has to keep in mind is one is natural and one is synthetic.
Having said that, everyone is different and in a certain set/mindstate/physical balance so things will effect everyone differently but usually there are parallels to the experience either noticed right away or discussed at a later time. I had a time period where I experimented with dxm and felt similar embarrassment because of it...but I also found a group of people online who were doing similar things and we would gather to discuss it and relay our experiences. So for me it became true research. I look back now being in my 30's and wonder what the fuck I as doing and why. I used to day dream about working in a Psychedelic Research Institute and that all these trips would come together and pop into the future all of these things we were experiencing...and it would be tangible. Well we are only a few years away from something that raised mckenna's eyebrows at the very least on that date I would like to feel immense hope. An overwhelming tidal wave of white light hope. Things will be pointing toward a better future....a broadening of horizons future. I concur that it has to start with medicine. Heal. Let the bubble burst forward into a dazzling display of ever changing possiblities all unfolding all over each other. A kaleidoscope of pathways interchanging and becoming and evolving. I do have to put out there that I need a new ally. Mary Jane and my anxiety issues aren't working well together and I've noticed a tendency toward alcohol more and more and I'm not happy with this. Tried kava kava and two different types of kratom to no avail. If anyone can recommend anything I can try in the evenings to relax, anti-anxiety, nice body buzz, peaceful time I'd be appreciative.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: theta_waves]
#13293584 - 10/05/10 12:07 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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ive had 1 bad trip because i had a large dose of libs,it was 50 mon,100 tue,200 wed,50 thu morn,400thur eve, all fine nice trips then 1000 fri but could only get half down was sick twice thought i was in hell but sat i felt fine.it was only scary going up went so fast,this was about 15 yrs ago, used to pick loads and save them to last the yr.only had them7 or 8 times since dont get much in the way of visuals off low doses any more but started getting a taste for them again now i forgot how nice the feeling is, great poll btw.when i look at digital numbers that are illuminated green they usually wobble up and down not allways but occasionally,have a lot of de ja vu but this i attribute to my time sniffing petrol,glue and thinners when i was a kid
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: phayze]
#13298436 - 10/06/10 11:04 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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If you're not experiencing dark trips, you are sheltered IMO. Try getting high on acid and hanging out in the part of town where crack is the economic base. Try tripping around meth tweakers. Cops. The streets. That is where reality is people.
I consider society the antithesis of psychedelics. There is almost nothing psychedelic about modern culture. This is of course a matter of opinion. You can use psychedelics for whatever you want.
But I just think paranoia is ultimate awareness, and ignorance is bliss. My life changed when I travelled in Mexico as a child and saw the abject poverty of the people there living without sewage and water sanitation, digging through dumps.
Experiences like these almost invariably prevent me from being able to have a party /good trip. It is always an ego death.
This is a good thing IMO.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: universatile]
#13312079 - 10/09/10 08:51 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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If you're not experiencing dark trips, you are sheltered IMO. Try getting high on acid and hanging out in the part of town where crack is the economic base. Try tripping around meth tweakers. Cops. The streets. That is where reality is people.
I disagree.
Close the curtains, trip in your bed, lying in darkness with your eyes closed. No music, no distractions. Lose track of your body as your mind wanders, be fully absorbed in the internal dimension together with the Mushroom, and whatever governs this Universe. Immerse yourself in an internal world that can be completely shaped by your organism interacting with the mushroom experience.
THAT is where Reality is.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#13313319 - 10/09/10 02:45 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Reality is whatever you make of it. However I prefer not to hide from outer space in things like meditation and, my self. Within the confines of my own trip I do not experience as much if any sympathy with others. I become a raging megalomaniac. To go outside of myself I must go outside.
Perhaps this is an affliction.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#13315060 - 10/10/10 01:07 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Wiccan are you serious because i did acid a year or more ago by myself in my basement and i started having what i thought was a heart attack, it pierced my chest so badly for so long i was writhing on the ground, couldnt even get to my phone or do anything, i really thought i was going to die. i kept getting panic attacks and the pain almost daily for over 6 months and then i would still get it sometimes, now i get it only really rarely but i am still scared to trip on acid.
Do u think it just happened because i freaked out or because of the mixes in all of those? ive done acid a couple times before and never had any bad experiences, in fact thats the only bad experience ive ever had with any psychedelic but at the same time its not what you would call a bad trip i would call it a medical emergency.
Also i know this is a long post already but when i do other drugs sometimes my heart will feel like it skips a beat, like its just weightless or something for one beat and then it will go right back on track, or sometimes even skip another beat like 3 seconds later. do you think i should be worried? i went to my doc and he told me i was fine and considering ive been tripping like once a week since the middle of the summer and im still alive, i kind of want to believe him and just say im over thinking things way too much.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Midnight_Toker]
#13316118 - 10/10/10 11:22 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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if you're not mistaken, and your heart is actually missing beats that often, something is wrong. it sounds like you might have ASD and i would definitely get a second opinion if only for comfort. it's your body and you only get one- i personally would not take that kind of chance if i really knew my heart was missing beats that much.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Avid]
#13320045 - 10/11/10 09:19 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Midnight-
I have been to the ER multiple times on mushrooms and lsd, thinking I was having a heart attack.
My heart would race uncontrollably, I would get chest pains. I kept telling myself 'its just the drugs' but it wouldnt stop so I feared for my life.
Over the years I have had EKG's and echo-cardiograms, (the latter is the most thorough picture of your heart), and the doctors said I was fine.
I do get skipped beats sometimes though, when sober.
Looking back I think that part of the reason why I had the chest discomfort is my history of smoking. Perhaps the lsd was not good either.
But what makes me wonder is that when I dis meth or MDMA, I would not get these problems (unless I was smoking meth). There was something about shrooms and LSD that was triggering something.
I have considered that perhaps it was just the psychosomatic effect of panic and anxiety. But even when I would go to a safe place ans lie down, my heart would feel like it was bursting out of my chest.
At one point I described it to the doctor thusly: "I feel like my heart IS my lung." I also felt like there was a hole in my heart.
They have found no such defect.
I think I may have smoked so many cigarettes and inhaled so deeply (I tend to SMOKE a cigarette), that I gave myself early stage heart disease. At the time of these trips, I felt like I had a heart attack as well, and perhaps I did have a small one, or multiple mild ones.
But I just don't know why I experienced this on LSD vs stimulants like speed and coke. I feel like at times for me psychedelics have been much more stimulating. Like they revved up my heart rate much more than speed did.
Anybody have any insight into this matter? I read somewhere once about a guy who experienced LSD exacerbating pre existing heart problems, but I dont know where.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: universatile]
#13320056 - 10/11/10 09:23 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: universatile]
#13320912 - 10/11/10 12:38 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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The poll says a lot about both the forum and the spreading out of the psychedelics during the last decade or so. The "hallucinating counterculture" will not go away.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: universatile]
#13350375 - 10/17/10 09:30 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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That's very interesting, I too get the feeling of a hole in my heart or having a heart attack on LSD. But it doesn't happen to me sober.
I've dosed quite a bit in the past few months, every two or three days for almost a month. And I have some strong feelings of being in an almost dream like state, especially when I smoke pot. My visions bubbles a bit in the dark and when I look at a pattern I see it when I look away.
But it doesn't bother me either, so I'll happily continue to dose and use other psychedelics.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: hansarvin]
#13367849 - 10/21/10 05:33 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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you feel like you're having a heart attack when you do it and you still do it all the time? how can you cope with that? even if you dont feel like it sober its a terrible feeling..
and i also get the effects of the last drug ive done when i smoke pot, it used to be acid for a year i would see colors and trails, then i started doing MDMA so everything would seem really fuzzy and then go high definition and back(if youve done mdma you know what i mean by high definition) and i took mushrooms 2 weeks ago and now things seem to exist in a superposition like theyre in no definite spot.
these things dont bug me either, i consider it a bonus when i smoke weed. the sober visuals i get are mild and i only notice them about 3 times a day, they also dont bug me.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#13377363 - 10/23/10 05:42 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker What you said about how to experience mushrooms is really the perfect thing to do. I did that exact thing lay in my bed eyes closed lights off, and I had the best trip I've ever had.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: dustyn77]
#13461309 - 11/09/10 09:26 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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These guys who have tripped more than 1,000 times... That's just crazy. 100 even seems like so many times tripping.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: IAmpat]
#13461689 - 11/09/10 10:54 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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easy to do in a period of 5-10 years....
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: 13shrooms]
#13481212 - 11/14/10 12:53 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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cool poll ,I'm lmfao at the dumb-asses that keep going to the hospital , if that happens once ...maybe tripping is not for you,
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: amungus]
#13517317 - 11/20/10 10:59 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Anyone ever had what i'd almost describe as 'blackouts' from 3g+ doses? It's happened to me on both acid and shrooms, I find myself in completely darkness, and if i try hard i can slowly see everything around me, but when i stop trying it just fades back to black.
Quite wierd.
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all i've ever had was a fucked up stomachache after i ingested some aborted mushrooms. 3 hours after i took those, i was crawling on the floor and me and my girlfriend had to hitchhike to the health care center cuz we had no money. taht day i've learned that i had peptic ulcer..real story
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Tira]
#13519149 - 11/21/10 11:07 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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I've almost blacked out on mushrooms before when I was coming up, but Im pretty sure it was just low blood pressure. It's happened a couple other times with no psychedelics.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Mr.PC]
#13522523 - 11/22/10 01:24 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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I've never had it without psychedelics, not full unconciousness, its more like not being able to see anything, pitch darkness, can't hear anything. And i usually have very little memory on what actually went on, almost like a dream.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: psi_vosbi]
#13589992 - 12/06/10 10:18 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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redballz said Quote:
Never had a full on bad trip, but I have had the first half of it be terrifying, only to turn into bliss.
this was me last night! It was too much and I hammered the floor and wife came running upstairs, she got in bed with me and I swore I would never do it again, and then it turned to bliss. No sex I have to say!!! just pure love.
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Then she buggerd off back down stairs to watch X factor, leaving me to it?
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One side effect that I have noticed after tripping for the first time is that now I can see mushroom shapes in everyday life, and I just notice how much a lot of things look like mushrooms that I hadn't noticed before. Anybody else notice this?
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Albinothecat]
#13702117 - 12/29/10 04:21 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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My last shroom trip, from handcrafted and imported shroom chocolate, involved me powerchucking, the hitting the deck immediately after, but being fully aware, but completely unable to move or see. I was terrified, but not nearly as much as my mates who watched me in condition wondering whether to call emergency service. This passed after a while, i got up, and the terror was over and I had a terrific night thereafter! Not the first time shrooms have rendered me paralytic either.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: psi_vosbi]
#13818719 - 01/20/11 02:33 AM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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Quote:
psi_vosbi said: Anyone ever had what i'd almost describe as 'blackouts' from 3g+ doses? It's happened to me on both acid and shrooms, I find myself in completely darkness, and if i try hard i can slowly see everything around me, but when i stop trying it just fades back to black.
Quite wierd.
Damn that would probably give me a bad trip pretty quick.
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Re: stomachache [Re: Riz]
#13821759 - 01/20/11 04:03 PM (1 year, 23 days ago) |
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nausea coming up on shrooms can be an issue for me.....the other major side effect is this urge to pick up the phone and reconnect with distant family...lol
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Re: stomachache [Re: mcm]
#13865878 - 01/28/11 12:01 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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I would say my worst was when I decided to take 3 grams of mush at 12:30 am. At 230 am nothing was happening, so I took 2 more. I also had only slept for 2 and half hours in the past 48 hours. The combination of exhaustion and heavy trip was both terrifying and fantastic. I kept slipping into deep insane dreams. I wouldn't mind seeing this type of poll run on just the affects of Mushrooms. I have heard rumors of people having "flashbacks" but never a first hand story. Cheers.
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ragehead said: I wouldn't mind seeing this type of poll run on just the affects of Mushrooms.
I am an idiot and apparently cannot read. Am moving on to the Shroom poll next
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I've never experienced any of the nausea, however, the come-up seems very uncomfortable to me. I can't look at the tv or computer monitor because its just too bright. I find myself curling up in a ball on the couch with my eyes closed for about the first 20 minutes of the trip; after that, pure bliss!
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The come up on shrooms IMO is accompanied (but dose dependent) by nausea (sometimes to the point where i make myself throw up to "get it over with") anxiety ranging from levels of uncomfortable body load to panic level anxiety.
LSD come up is accompanied more of "feeling strange" and euphoria. With an interest in the onset cognitive shift, rather then anxiety associated with it.
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Quote:
fungivore said: I've never experienced any of the nausea, however, the come-up seems very uncomfortable to me. I can't look at the tv or computer monitor because its just too bright. I find myself curling up in a ball on the couch with my eyes closed for about the first 20 minutes of the trip; after that, pure bliss!
this for me too
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I have only once had the nausea coming up. Otherwise I felt nothing, then maybe a few things started to wave a bit or some colours seem vibrant, then wham, it's been an hour and a half of sheer happy land. I have never experienced the anxiety. I have dosed half the time with capsules and half with powder and I find capsules slow and suddle, and certainly the easiest to take.
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Quote:
Cognitive_Shift said: The come up on shrooms IMO is accompanied (but dose dependent) by nausea (sometimes to the point where i make myself throw up to "get it over with") anxiety ranging from levels of uncomfortable body load to panic level anxiety.
LSD come up is accompanied more of "feeling strange" and euphoria. With an interest in the onset cognitive shift, rather then anxiety associated with it.

That's why higher doses of mushies are better as you come up quicker and have less time to be anxious. Hate the discomfort though,they wreck my stomach. They never used to.
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This was a fun and enlightening poll. Love it! I was interested in the age range of the people in the shroomery community. A few old hands in here. Wish I could meet some of these wise elders in person.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: KingMob]
#13886439 - 02/01/11 06:13 AM (1 year, 12 days ago) |
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nice poll very complete
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: TripisHippies]
#13919196 - 02/07/11 12:08 AM (1 year, 6 days ago) |
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Hi, This is my first post here! My name is Jay, and I'm excited to be part of this thread!
I would consider myself pretty new to tripping, although my first trip was back when I was 14 (I'm 18 now). I got sick from those shrooms and didn't trip again until last September on some pretty bunk acid. I then finally tried shrooms again this week and it was amazing and got my first real visuals. I also took some molly that night to top it off 
On friday, I took my first proper acid trip and it was one of them most beautiful experiences of my life. I would consider it a level 2.4 trip,and I only took 1 tab of 125 mics. I still have 2 molly pills left and a tab. Can't wait!
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I think molly mixes way better with LSD than it does with mushrooms.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: nicechrisman]
#13921633 - 02/07/11 02:29 PM (1 year, 5 days ago) |
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nicechrisman said: I think molly mixes way better with LSD than it does with mushrooms.
I haven't trued that, but it sounds better. I took the molly after the trip was wearing off and I was at the beach at night with 3 of my close friends and I called a bunch of friends, and some girls (one of which I am gonna go hiking with this weekend! and she is fine as helll)
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I agree with the above
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Dogdays]
#13931817 - 02/09/11 02:09 AM (1 year, 4 days ago) |
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You can avoid the stomach issue on shrooms by making tea, it works for me on Semilanceata anyway!
What I do is get a standard tea-bag Tetley or PG-Tips or what ever. You cut off a corner of the bag and empty out the Tea-Leaves, repack the bag with your ground up dry mushies (you can easily get 4g in there, but I only ever tried 2g ) now sow up the hole in the bag with a bit of thread and needle. Leave a length of thread for dunking the bag in your cup. Dunk the bag in to a half full cup of boiling water, gently dunk until cool.
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I answered "A few times" to the question about passing out on psychedelics.
The same thing happened to me twice. On 22 mg and 25 mg of 4-aco-dmt (separate times, same repeat story), within 5 minutes of smoking a few bowls of weed, my vision rapidly turned colorful and bright, and then my thoughts seemed to race ahead of my mind, forgetting about standing, and collasping to the floor each time, for no more than 30 seconds. But it was a conscious fall, as if my brain said, "ok, it's time to go to the ground." Gracefully, by any standard.
I also smoked weed on a hit of acid, but a smaller amount and my vision did become more colorful and the thoughts more intense, but I did not pass out and the extra effects gradually went away.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: WonkierBubble]
#14077621 - 03/06/11 07:10 PM (11 months, 2 days ago) |
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Decent idea for a poll... I personally get very few adverse affects from shrooms. Probably the worst is the occasional case of nausea.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: marbong]
#14116411 - 03/13/11 07:59 PM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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Hooray! I am not psycho after all! I actually don't notice any difference in my memory before or after tripping. If anything my ego is quite diminished, to my relief. Maybe all those politicians in office could use a little fungi therapy???
Anyone second that?
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I'd second that, psilo81, but I'm not sure they would be carrying out their duties to the corporation(s) employing them in the wake of said therapies.
Regarding adverse effects... My dog "drank from his own well" after consuming some Amanitas he'd picked in Northern California and roasted over a fire in the desert, while drinking some infused into vodka... Indeed, he consumed "water from his own cistern" 3 or 4 times... recycling; and purifying.
This particular style of urine therapy did have some(very)devine moments, and was cleaner feeling than and as powerful as eating a much greater amount of Amanitas... so powerful, it knocked my dog on his butt.
Ever seen a dog "flying" on Muscimole rolling around on the ground and having a .22 shot around his feet after being bowled over from the power of the Amanita spirit, being concurrently intoxicated beer and vodka at night in the desert? He doesn't really mind so much. 
That being said, how carefull and respectfull one must be... of Amanitas and all living things.

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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: flickedbic]
#14167611 - 03/22/11 10:36 PM (10 months, 17 days ago) |
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: justin340]
#14210619 - 03/30/11 03:53 PM (10 months, 9 days ago) |
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: wem420]
#14214784 - 03/31/11 12:09 PM (10 months, 9 days ago) |
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question, how do i post a trip report ?
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: SierraLeone024]
#14219234 - 04/01/11 05:03 AM (10 months, 8 days ago) |
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I wonder how statistically sound this poll really is, considering the narrow group of people who answer it. The more negative effects people experience, the less likely it is that they stick to that lifestyle and less likely to hang around this site.
It's like standing outside a liquer store and making a poll on alcohol experiences.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Mjau]
#14234785 - 04/04/11 03:30 AM (10 months, 5 days ago) |
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Mjau said: I wonder how statistically sound this poll really is, considering the narrow group of people who answer it. The more negative effects people experience, the less likely it is that they stick to that lifestyle and less likely to hang around this site.
It's like standing outside a liquer store and making a poll on alcohol experiences. 
werd!
i haven't tripped in a bit cuz of my x7x trip but still loved all my trips. hell i wish i could take them but i have to mush bad JU-JU going on  but i love this shit. oysters too
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#14262934 - 04/09/11 11:30 AM (10 months, 2 hours ago) |
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great poll! im very interested in the results
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: roaul d]
#14269151 - 04/10/11 07:51 PM (9 months, 29 days ago) |
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I've had some mental issues. I use to take paxil and stopped a few months ago. actually it was so I could do mushrooms, cause they don't work with Paxil. The withdrawl was horrible, and lasted a long time. I've had other stuff go on before I was on Paxil too.
Is tripping something I should do, or think twice about? Maybe a low does?
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Itching... I'm itchy anyway but tripping seems to aggravate it. Scratching is something else when loaded though; scratching my itches leaves me feeling a strange sensation that I would describe as a "scratch tracer" in my skin. I never seen tracers in my vision! but I sure feel tracers when I scratch these annoying itches.
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lol feel ya there!
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: ShadOWCrack]
#14282309 - 04/13/11 04:15 AM (9 months, 27 days ago) |
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Wow, I didn't know so many folks are having bad experiences with psychedelics and having negative life effects. You know I think maybe I could have related to that in the past when I was about 19. I have had very diverse trips on all sides of the spectrum for the past four years. If you are getting down on yourself about tripping and drugs then you just got it all wrong. Take yourself out of the whole picture and than look at it. As for functioning in society, fuck that! These greedy pig headed bastards got it all wrong, you're not mentally ill. Fuck all this driving, jobs, college, and all that buttery shit. It's all wrong anyways. These savages have got you tricked. Buy a bike, a fishing pole, and some camping equipment. I mean I do work but I care way more about my health and the people I meet. I love getting involved with community. I think the mind is trying to tell you something if you're having long after effects of a trip or just bad thoughts in regular life. It's pretty normal but I suggest changing your environment fuck even your entire paradise if you can grasp such a thing. I don't advocate drug use or non of that. I think you can reach those heights without it really. But drugs do the trick for me. What I'm trying to say is don't let this system choose who you are. I quit a long time ago. Next week I'm setting off and the greatest obstacle I've ever set for myself. I'm building a new and better bike than the one I have now and taking a bike tour to Canada from Tennessee. I owe a lot to psychedelics, books, and the colorful people I meet along the way. I don't really need psychedelics any more. Hell that's like a goddamn cup of coffee to me. Just another boost and somewhat of an escape. Good luck to all of you. I hope the ones who feel confused find their way. But let me leave you with this. You're a fool and you're blind if you cannot see that the light glows in the dark. And the greatest work of art well that's yer heart. <3 oh and it the words of charles bukowski "don't try"
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: teck345]
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Never had any problems in my life because of "true" psychedelics. Weed is a different story, I've had feelings of derealization and anxiety because of it. Also I think mostly because of the anxiety I've had some blurring of my vision but this is connected to either the weed or the anxiety, probably both. I even get muscle pains that are completely unrelated to "real" pain. Just shooting, buzzing pain. I'm staying of the weed for now.
Only notacible effects of LSD or Shrooms is that I usually have the sensation of having a very clear mind, days or weeks after a trip.
I do remember first and only time I tried a phenetylamine N-methyl-2cb I had some patterning when closing my eyes some time after the trip, but I don't think it stayed with my for long, it just faded away I guess.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Lightning]
#14330097 - 04/21/11 08:07 PM (9 months, 18 days ago) |
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I don't know what state of mind I was in when I took this poll, but I wish I could go back and fix my answers for the purpose of accuracy.
Cannabis is the only psychedelic that has ever caused me problems. I got HPPD and anxiety from cannabis long before I had ever used any psychedelic.
I got it back in 2003-2004ish... a little before I registered from the Shroomery. To this day, I still have HPPD and anxiety issues, although I've learned how to deal with both. The HPPD is uber annoying sometimes. Oddly enough, I've tripped many, many times on a range of psychedelics... mushrooms, 2C-E, LSD, 2C-C, 4-AcO-DMT, DMT... none of them have worsened my HPPD symptoms.
Weird. Fuck cannabis. Haven't smoked since September 2009 and hopefully never will again.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Society]
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teck345 do you mean motorcycles when you mention 'bikes' or are you referring to the peddle push bike kind of 'cycle' ? great fun both these things are in my opinion 
Society I gota say that I never did use and learn all about cannabis but I also have to say that cannabis has impacted my family severely in negative ways several times.
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yeah dude bicycle! i do it everyday. smoke weed and i still consider tripping sometimes. as for hppd? is that right? well anyways my theory on hppd is that some people need more light stimulation and less time in front of the TV or computer screen. those tv screens are highly damaging to the eyes after long term use.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: teck345]
#14350583 - 04/25/11 05:04 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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I think that adding a person's ethnicity would be beneficial for this poll.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: stepup.stepout]
#14383242 - 05/01/11 02:29 PM (9 months, 8 days ago) |
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Well I answered this poll with tripping on dxm in mind.. I went on a binge were I did dxm a few days in a row and I ended up having a panic attack. It wasnt a fun experience and I feel it has affected me in a negative way. Although I have never had any really bad trips from shrooms or any difficult experiences, I do seem to see morphing/fractals/tracers every now and then, but nothing that really effects my daily life.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: iacs69]
#14521205 - 05/27/11 01:17 PM (8 months, 14 days ago) |
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O FUCK YEAHHHH. ANTARCTICAN SENATORS. DECAY IN THE SOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CHECK IT OUT...
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: rechard.kid]
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VERY scientific like, i like it
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: stepup.stepout]
#14684566 - 06/28/11 04:06 AM (7 months, 13 days ago) |
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stepup.stepout said: I think that adding a person's ethnicity would be beneficial for this poll.
at first, i thought this would just benefit racial profiling 
but now i see this as a good idea
while in the navy i saw that majority of the people with g6pd or sickle cell were of African descent maybe genetics of people vary due to location of heritage  1500+ votes later though might be to late to add it
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: JilPil]
#14709756 - 07/03/11 04:06 AM (7 months, 8 days ago) |
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To clarify my post..
I have not tripped in 20 years (though I hope to soon).
Facts: there is not a drug on this planet I have not tried. (except quaaludes and I don't think they make them any more) Smoked weed at 13, shot coc at 14, acid at 15 (fell in love with it) shot heroine at 16, smoked opium 17, angel dust 17, mescaline, peyote, freon, hash, crack, mandrex, every kind of tranquilizer, codeine, crystal meth, etc.. etc.. by age of 18.
After doing all that shit, the only two drugs I would mess with is pot and acid/shrooms. Everything else is garbage.
I bet in the span of age 15-20 I dropped more acid than Ozzy Osbourne himself. Used to get some really kick ass shit from Baylor Texas Medicine (Blue star and New World/Global)
Acid I've dropped (that I can remember) Blue Star (Baylor) Double-dipped stretched checkerboard Camoflauge (from Florida) Stripes Looney Tunes Purple Haze Window Panes Lightning bolts (California) Piggy w/ lunchbox Global/New World (probably best acid ever.. from Texas) Gator shoe box (and about a dozen others I can't recall)
I LOVE TO TRIP and I've never had a bad trip. I surround myself with people that I love, or I go into seclusion. If non-trippers show up and are agressive, or have a bad vibe.. simply leave and get to somewhere quiet. Avoid discussing religion or politics unless it's with your best friend and you can keep it non-hostile. About 8 hours into your trip.. that's when you'll begin to see walls breathe, and shadows sway.. watch the sunrise and contemplate the pretty colors, I remember thinking as a teen "How in the world is this only $5 to feel like this?"
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: danlennon3]
#14729837 - 07/07/11 03:48 AM (7 months, 4 days ago) |
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In my opinion I feel LSD had the most reoccurring effects while sober. I had tripped bout 5-6 times on mushrooms and was clear the next day at my fast paced job. Only took LSD twice but after those times i have had a permanent "tracer" effect objects in low light situations. Its not in any way a handicap as i can see fine but its just something i noticed. Anyone else have a similar experience?
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Lord of the Grass said: In my opinion I feel LSD had the most reoccurring effects while sober. I had tripped bout 5-6 times on mushrooms and was clear the next day at my fast paced job. Only took LSD twice but after those times i have had a permanent "tracer" effect objects in low light situations. Its not in any way a handicap as i can see fine but its just something i noticed. Anyone else have a similar experience?
LSD does have a next day negative or neutral effects depending on dose and such. If anything, the day after psilocybin is uplifting (for lack of a better word).
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#14754792 - 07/11/11 11:21 PM (6 months, 30 days ago) |
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i WANT to have a bad trip, anybody else? Ego-annihilation leads to integration,for me at least, am i alone here?
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Han Jeremy]
#14755196 - 07/12/11 02:18 AM (6 months, 30 days ago) |
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Han Jeremy said: i WANT to have a bad trip, anybody else? Ego-annihilation leads to integration,for me at least, am i alone here?
i have had 1 and glade i did i havent triped since but iam about to in a day or so. i could do some fresh but they where last time, going to wait another day or so
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: ShadOWCrack]
#14761439 - 07/13/11 08:31 AM (6 months, 29 days ago) |
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Fantastic to see such a poll with a wide range of experiences/observations/admissions and conclusions..
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: stepup.stepout]
#14761476 - 07/13/11 08:42 AM (6 months, 29 days ago) |
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stepup.stepout said: I think that adding a person's ethnicity would be beneficial for this poll.
Yeah but then one could argue a whole range of parameters would provide scope to such *research*, like socio-economic, cultural, genetic, ethno-biological information.
Unfortunately that would lead to an overly complex forum discussion. If it isnt already..
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#14775956 - 07/16/11 01:16 AM (6 months, 26 days ago) |
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nice poll
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: ro-deez]
#14781864 - 07/17/11 12:44 PM (6 months, 25 days ago) |
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nice poll 
nice to see a healthy variety of open minded ppl.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Hybird]
#14782166 - 07/17/11 01:43 PM (6 months, 24 days ago) |
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I haven't tripped in years. Did acid at 13, and pretty much like Shrewd, did about everything but no needle's. I loved acid and pot. Can't do the pot, own a trucking company, but do plan on grow some shrooms for myself. The only time I know of people having a bad trip was when they went in scared, or paranoid. If you think you will have a good trip then you do.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Redbone]
#14853516 - 07/31/11 07:17 PM (6 months, 10 days ago) |
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great poll really enjoyed looking at the results!
i wouldn't consider my experiences adverse because i love my life now, but it was very tough for a naive county boy to experience oneness and euphoria some of the first times haha
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: longboarder]
#14853922 - 07/31/11 08:39 PM (6 months, 10 days ago) |
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Awesome Poll, wish Id found it soon. Im curious if theres a connection between the 'almost always' answers to the questions "Have you ever had what you consider "a medical situation" during a trip or resulting from it?" and "Have you ever fainted during a trip?"...also, Im assuming "Seeks Medical Attention" is tied to these same individuals.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Abu]
#14856429 - 08/01/11 12:14 PM (6 months, 10 days ago) |
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I fainted one time from doing the lemon tek and came too on another planet with complete ego death haha great time tho
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: joeystl99]
#14861736 - 08/02/11 12:20 PM (6 months, 9 days ago) |
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: EmersedShark]
#14862620 - 08/02/11 02:49 PM (6 months, 8 days ago) |
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wow now i have read all the replys and i wile say its a grate topic:D
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: bongo]
#14877026 - 08/05/11 01:05 PM (6 months, 6 days ago) |
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It's a great topic bongo surely and I would like to say that skin itching is the most annoying thing about psychedelics as far as im concerned and itching generally is the most annoying thing ever in my experience because its been with me as far as I can remember?.
I take shrooms for psycadelic enlightenment and always its itching that comes on first and it dominates the experience and diminishes it. Maybe I should consume more and hopefully be transported beyond realm of skin sensation? Next time  
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Dude this thred is GNARLY Wiccan_Seeker, thank you for putting in the work to make a poll that is not only very interesting and informative, but also insightful. Insightful into my own experiences and actions, and those who have posted above that may be somewhat like-minded (or should I say more-so likeminded than those on a different forum somewhere). I really have wanted to make something like this, but never knew how to break my questions down or narrow down the substances included in the query. Although, I will plug my thread "CANNABIS SUCKS" here...because it's my first post about (my opinion on) the adverse effects of ganja and I discovered this thread through searching for similar stuff. I thought my post "Cannabis Sucks" was relevant to this only because this thread does not include input on adverse effects of other substances. YOu've inspired me to clean up my thread soon and probably put up a poll if people think I should. ANYWAY, my answers to your poll were in most cases cast for the least voted upon choices (never fainted or went to a hospital or anything like that though!). All the questions about having after effects and effecting social skills when sober....well I'd say I've had a really hard time being "normal" after tripping. Yes, tripping. The first time I tripped...since then I don't think I've ever come down. I tripped with the love of my life, both had our first mushroom experience together, and since then, I've been chasing the high and the girl. I began to think to myself, how could the most amazing, mind changing, transformative, experience I ever experienced haunt me for so long? Well every woman-friend or substance I've tried since then has just distracted me I think..and now at this point, the after effects have CHANGED the memories of the actual experience. Now instead of being happy, I'm sad and I can't get back to that day, that intensity trip, connectedness, can't get the beautiful woman back who disappeared to Spain...or maybe in France by now. Fuck every time I go on this site I start rambling, but I read a lot of the responses on here so I thought why not share too. I could say more but I know im boring. The point is, thanks buddy for making communication happen!
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Jordainio]
#14907596 - 08/11/11 04:21 PM (5 months, 30 days ago) |
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I want to be one of those 1000 times plus trippers..working on it
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#14910900 - 08/12/11 10:40 AM (5 months, 30 days ago) |
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good poll. interesting to look at the results
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Melkor]
#14913626 - 08/12/11 09:25 PM (5 months, 29 days ago) |
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Melkor said: I want to be one of those 1000 times plus trippers..working on it
Are you sure? why not try 1000 in a 1000 days
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Jordainio]
#14913790 - 08/12/11 10:09 PM (5 months, 29 days ago) |
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Its worth a shot
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Melkor]
#14923718 - 08/14/11 11:23 PM (5 months, 27 days ago) |
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Melkor said: I want to be one of those 1000 times plus trippers..working on it
Fuck yeah, dude. In love and there's no going back.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: lilblueshroom]
#14966163 - 08/23/11 01:28 PM (5 months, 19 days ago) |
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#14980180 - 08/26/11 12:38 AM (5 months, 16 days ago) |
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Nothing against the poll experiment but i read and find it hard to give 'tick in the box answers' with the psychedelic experiences.
The ayahuasca experience is for me something i find myself wanting to stay in, i find a brillient intelligence within the affects of the plant mixture. I have noticed that with ayahuasca there is a destruction of ego, through surrender and control a whole new form of perception is available. Ayahuasca can be used to 'stay egoless' or stay with eyes open, its not such much hallicinatory after affects, it is more learning how to stay aware of those things that are seen using ayahuasca.
I think mushrooms could be used for the same purpose, but it is a case of opening up to the spirits and the shamans who know.
The western world lacks real shamanism and until there is authentic shamanism in the western world there will be no real comprehensive knowledge of the mushroom/dmt/salvia..
Reach out to the mexican shamans, reach out to the ayahuasca shamans because they can teach those few who are so inclined to be that way.
Experimentation alone will not make you a shaman.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Intergalactica]
#14985224 - 08/27/11 12:49 AM (5 months, 15 days ago) |
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Very interesting. only thing though, most of the people on here probably have had desirable effects tripping, and thats probably led them here. people who have only tripped once or a couple times, and had really bad trips and got scared and stopped doing it probably wouldnt be on this site. i wish this could be an actual study with funding. ive only heard of one recent one where they dosed patients and did follow up tests. the results were all positive.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: amberella1989]
#14994315 - 08/28/11 10:33 PM (5 months, 13 days ago) |
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Not many people believe me when I say that psychedelics have had slight adverse effects in my life. Sometimes I feel as if I'm experiencing forms of synesthesia that I recognize from a trip or series of trips. Also after the first time I tripped acid, yellow traffic lights have looked like bright flashlight or desk lamp lights rather than yellow street lights. This is very strange considering I did not see any street lights during the trip, but it was never like this until the day after the trip. We were in the mountains though and were using flashlights at night. Has anyone else had experiences similar to these? Did it ever go back to normal after a while? I don't mind these effects, but they are trippy.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: EighthChakra]
#15085764 - 09/16/11 01:21 AM (4 months, 26 days ago) |
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this is a good poll, however it is still biased in a way that is unavoidable given the place it is posted.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: The Third Eye]
#15093321 - 09/17/11 06:59 PM (4 months, 24 days ago) |
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Nice poll. Only thing is with polls like this is there is always someone who moves the curve by not doing right.....still very good though!!!
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Showmehow420]
#15096422 - 09/18/11 01:52 PM (4 months, 23 days ago) |
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Great poll, nice to see how the other members weigh in
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: laserpig]
#15161364 - 10/01/11 05:56 AM (4 months, 11 days ago) |
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laserpig said: I have only tripped twice (shrooms) and I did not hallucinate at all either time ... however ever since then things have looked different to me. It's as if on shrooms I realized something about my vision and that realization has persisted since then.
Specifically, what I'm talking about are A: mild tracers (by which I mean slightly visible paths behind moving objects in high-contrast lighting), which I think may in fact be a natural feature of the retina that we train ourselves to ignore, and B: a tendency to immediately see anything of fractaline shape AS a fractal -- for example I can no longer look at most plants without thinking "wow! a fractal! look at that!" I mean, I still see the plants as PLANTS, I'm not tripping out or anything, I just interpret what I'm seeing a little differently.
I had a very powerful lsd trip when I was 18 it resulted in me quitting weed and not tripping at all for 2 years or more. The morning after the trip for the first time when I walked outside and saw the sunrise it was the most beautiful thin I had ever seen it was a blaze of color (obviously I was still tripping) but ever since then I've looked at nature and the things around me in a totally different perspective and have a much higher sensitivity to the world around me..it has never left me I can sit and watch a sunset completely sober and really see the beauty around me at all times. it's also made my shroom trips much more colorful and I seek out new things while tripping..I guess Inside I'd like to see just how far down that hole really goes but a little afraid of what I might find. Anyway Good poll and happy trippin fellas
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: IntotheMystic]
#15185018 - 10/06/11 04:29 AM (4 months, 6 days ago) |
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My god that was a long poll!
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: HermitCrabsOnE]
#15292303 - 10/28/11 05:47 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Its threads like this that make me love this website and its wealth of knowledge regarding hallucinogens that should be understood not made illegal and ignored.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: IntotheMystic]
#15326729 - 11/05/11 11:53 AM (3 months, 7 days ago) |
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IntotheMystic said:
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laserpig said: I have only tripped twice (shrooms) and I did not hallucinate at all either time ... however ever since then things have looked different to me. It's as if on shrooms I realized something about my vision and that realization has persisted since then.
Specifically, what I'm talking about are A: mild tracers (by which I mean slightly visible paths behind moving objects in high-contrast lighting), which I think may in fact be a natural feature of the retina that we train ourselves to ignore, and B: a tendency to immediately see anything of fractaline shape AS a fractal -- for example I can no longer look at most plants without thinking "wow! a fractal! look at that!" I mean, I still see the plants as PLANTS, I'm not tripping out or anything, I just interpret what I'm seeing a little differently.
I had a very powerful lsd trip when I was 18 it resulted in me quitting weed and not tripping at all for 2 years or more. The morning after the trip for the first time when I walked outside and saw the sunrise it was the most beautiful thin I had ever seen it was a blaze of color (obviously I was still tripping) but ever since then I've looked at nature and the things around me in a totally different perspective and have a much higher sensitivity to the world around me..it has never left me I can sit and watch a sunset completely sober and really see the beauty around me at all times. it's also made my shroom trips much more colorful and I seek out new things while tripping..I guess Inside I'd like to see just how far down that hole really goes but a little afraid of what I might find. Anyway Good poll and happy trippin fellas
this is exactly how i feel. i recently had a very strong DMT trip which has changed my life. i now see everything in a DMT fashion. i mean i dont have actual visuals or anything but everytime i look at a tree or some fallen leaves my perception of them is totally different. they almost look painted and surreal. the world seems as if it's on loose hinges sometimes. like the solid lines and contours we're use to have the ability to morph and adapt. really hard to explain, its just a perception, i have no HPPD or anything of that sort... but it's beautiful. life is simply beautiful since.
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Very interesting poll, wish the government still let people do test on it.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: cbrown]
#15439046 - 11/29/11 04:57 AM (2 months, 14 days ago) |
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LOL one time I dropped like 16 hits and we played poker for smokes all night listening to music on a massive speaker system. When it was all over I woke up with dry blood in the ear that was closest to a speaker. GOOD TIMES!!!! WHAT?
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Irishdrunk]
#15457438 - 12/03/11 12:19 AM (2 months, 10 days ago) |
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The adverse effects I have seen are created by a lack of discretion. The same lack of discretion in the 60's is what spoiled the scene for everyone. Leary at Millbrook playing "Guru" on the nightly news, Kesey and the Prankster's running Acid Tests, and so on and so on and so on.
Yes they were brave pioneers, but so "In Your Face" about it that it set back psychedelic research by half a century. I am ashamed to say its taken 50 years for the field of psychedelic research to recover from the 60's. I also gotta say that some of the "trip reports" I read are just as reckless.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Perlustro]
#15457816 - 12/03/11 05:20 AM (2 months, 10 days ago) |
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: ShadOWCrack]
#15512982 - 12/13/11 08:46 PM (1 month, 30 days ago) |
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Half of my trips are bad trips. The other half make it all worth while...
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: CaptainCap]
#15519320 - 12/15/11 05:46 AM (1 month, 29 days ago) |
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I only been on 1 trip and so far so good!
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: aznboy]
#15538088 - 12/19/11 12:48 AM (1 month, 25 days ago) |
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Little too 'cut-and-dry' for psychedelic experience. but, I guess, what isn't?
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Johnnybagels]
#15560689 - 12/23/11 07:50 AM (1 month, 21 days ago) |
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This is an important poll, even if it is not without some contradictions between voters.
well done to the OP
I am also not PRO-Leary or PRO-McKenna
I think that Leary lacked more than discreetion. He was too much tuned in. And too much of advertiser, like McKenna .
People should better decide consciously and in a self-aware style to have a psychedelic experience
Unlike most people in psychedelic communities, we need more sensible people to speak out, and definately not people from the 18-22 age who will easily eat what is presented in front of them.
And, to honour my trolling mentality, should we remind this:
LSD - still a Research Chemical after some 50-60 years.
Psylocybin - how can one prefer LSD to this?
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#15613523 - 01/04/12 12:41 AM (1 month, 9 days ago) |
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I have tripped close to 10 times and have not once had a bad trip
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#15633174 - 01/08/12 12:24 AM (1 month, 5 days ago) |
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Sorry to bother you but I was wondering if you'd ever took a poll on (This is gonna sound really weird), whether or not you ever felt like the shrooms were actually trying to communicate with you through visual patterns, or audio hallucinations? I know you have to think I'm just some burned out lunatic but I've only tripped on shrooms twice in my life. I love growing them. I like the challenges, and I think they are beautiful. If in all your worldly wisdom you deem me a crackpot, just have rogerrabbit share the PM that I sent him. That should cover all the bases. I appreciate any help you can give me in the fore mentioned question.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: mbrozack]
#15661696 - 01/13/12 03:51 PM (30 days, 20 hours ago) |
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1 out of 3 could be considered a bad trip. Though what was learned was worth the bad experience. In every case I learned more about myself, those around me and about life. The good times gave me dreams and peace of mind about this world. The bad ones gave me intense inner reflection, made me go back to college and made me closer to family and friends. Drugs don't make you turn to great things. I believe that mushrooms are used in religion for a reason. They are tools to be used properly and a spirit guide is usually needed if you are not strong enough yourself. They are not drugs. In the hardest points of my life, or when I was unsure of myself, I had bad trips but they gave me direction. If I do them now I make sure that I am pure of thought and body, with no problems. Though I couldn't if I had not faced the dark sides of me. Even now I work to be better. I fail a lot but I am forever a student and teacher. We are all of the same, different in our own ways. I have learned to meditate without them now. The keys to life are opening doors in the mind.
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Good poll. Information is so very important.
To elaborate on my own condition - I have a hard time coming up on shrooms. Never fainted, though have felt faint, and can get quite shaky when coming up - mild muscle spasms and a general sense of nervous energy building up inside. Once the come-up is completed the trip is always fantastic.
I get very rare, very minor, lingering sensory effects when sober - usually when looking at something that is quite trippy anyway. The most severe case was after very foolishly smoking salvia in spliff-form, continuously, over a long weekend. In fact I relate most of my cases of of HPPD-like experiences to the reckless use of other drugs - salvia & MDMA mainly.
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i often get pains across sholder, neck and arms. kind of muscle ache like after exercise. nothing that stops me enjoying myself. iv only had a handfull of bad trips among 60 or so shroom trips. Iv overdone it once or twice and ended up in a world far from reality.
however iv recently become concerned about hppd and worry i might have early signs of it. hope not!
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#15764356 - 02/05/12 12:18 PM (8 days, 14 minutes ago) |
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First off, awesome poll Wiccan. Another great contribution to the boards.
Ok, so most of the effects I have found from different psychedelics in the past.
LSD
I get weird, too-sensitive finger tip sensations after tripping (and while tripping). Its uncomfortable. Also, I seem to have bad short term memory after acid. I cant seem to remember things for awhile. There was a period where I just used LSD (no other drug) and my S.T. memory was pretty bad. It was like weed side-effects.
I also noticed, but not complete sure, that my emotions became more volatile, like I would get angry easier then usual, as well as irritated faster. I also become sad easier too, and its pretty intense. I made a thread about my volatile emotions very acid here.
And, as with most drugs, I have a feeling of "this situation would be better with Acid. Without, its not as good". It usually goes away after a few weeks of not using.
Shrooms
Different side-effects for the shrooms than acid. Same volatile emotions, but more to the depressive and lethargic side than angry/irritated side. I also feel strange in real life too, like out of place or something. Disconnected from reality in a way. Its not too bad, but noticeable.
Saliva D.
This stuff just makes me feel weird when I'm sober, like kinda spacey and out of it. I dont really like the actual high either. No more weird Saliva for me.
Morning Glories
When I took M.G. as a kid, I had the worst side effects out of all my psy use. I had like this fish-eye visual distortions while sober. And in general I felt disconnected from reality, really spacey. I did not like it at all. It was distracting and concerning to my mental health. The good thing is it went away when I stopped using. I also had trippy dreams weeks after the M.G. dose. I liked this, cause the dreams were ultra-real and very trippy! It was nice. Other than the dreams, I did not like the other side effects.
Overall, I would say psychedelics makes me feel weird in "normal" life, which is sorta bad. But I still enjoy them, just sometimes the side-effects are bad. And all psychedelics give me random senses of "flashback effects", and they are always mild, like a touch sensation or a mild visual "whoa" moment. Also, sometimes time-distortions, like slowed time. I like those, but it was always kinda like "maybe I should slow down on the psys".
Now I know use in balance, and dont become dependent on them, or you will have more side effects.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#15772273 - 02/07/12 03:47 AM (6 days, 8 hours ago) |
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I ate a baby.....didnt see a warning on the acid!!!!
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Irishdrunk]
#15782335 - 02/09/12 02:44 AM (4 days, 9 hours ago) |
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i used to have drug induced psychosis.
terrible disease.. wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: leafing]
#15786172 - 02/09/12 09:42 PM (3 days, 14 hours ago) |
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Holy sh**!
How did you escape the psychosis? I always thought once you hit insane, there is no return.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#15786475 - 02/09/12 11:02 PM (3 days, 13 hours ago) |
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slit my wrists.. almost died.. and well finally got my benzos back cause of it.. fucking parents thought i was abusing them for 3 years.. which led me on a slow downward spiral to suicide
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: leafing]
#15799523 - 02/12/12 06:13 PM (18 hours, 19 minutes ago) |
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It's just so crazy how every time is different.
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