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 Perlustro
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 Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Irishdrunk]  1
#15457438 - 12/03/11 12:19 AM (5 months, 22 days ago) |
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The adverse effects I have seen are created by a lack of discretion. The same lack of discretion in the 60's is what spoiled the scene for everyone. Leary at Millbrook playing "Guru" on the nightly news, Kesey and the Prankster's running Acid Tests, and so on and so on and so on.
Yes they were brave pioneers, but so "In Your Face" about it that it set back psychedelic research by half a century. I am ashamed to say its taken 50 years for the field of psychedelic research to recover from the 60's. I also gotta say that some of the "trip reports" I read are just as reckless.
L.S.Discretely. Nuff Said.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Perlustro]
#15457816 - 12/03/11 05:20 AM (5 months, 22 days ago) |
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: ShadOWCrack]
#15512982 - 12/13/11 08:46 PM (5 months, 11 days ago) |
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Half of my trips are bad trips. The other half make it all worth while... 
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: CaptainCap]
#15519320 - 12/15/11 05:46 AM (5 months, 10 days ago) |
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I only been on 1 trip and so far so good!
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: aznboy]
#15538088 - 12/19/11 12:48 AM (5 months, 6 days ago) |
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Little too 'cut-and-dry' for psychedelic experience. but, I guess, what isn't?
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Johnnybagels]
#15560689 - 12/23/11 07:50 AM (5 months, 2 days ago) |
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This is an important poll, even if it is not without some contradictions between voters.
well done to the OP
I am also not PRO-Leary or PRO-McKenna
I think that Leary lacked more than discreetion. He was too much tuned in. And too much of advertiser, like McKenna .
People should better decide consciously and in a self-aware style to have a psychedelic experience
Unlike most people in psychedelic communities, we need more sensible people to speak out, and definately not people from the 18-22 age who will easily eat what is presented in front of them.
And, to honour my trolling mentality, should we remind this:
LSD - still a Research Chemical after some 50-60 years.
Psylocybin - how can one prefer LSD to this?
Edited by mutant (12/23/11 08:48 AM)
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#15613523 - 01/04/12 12:41 AM (4 months, 21 days ago) |
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I have tripped close to 10 times and have not once had a bad trip
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 Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#15633174 - 01/08/12 12:24 AM (4 months, 17 days ago) |
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Sorry to bother you but I was wondering if you'd ever took a poll on (This is gonna sound really weird), whether or not you ever felt like the shrooms were actually trying to communicate with you through visual patterns, or audio hallucinations? I know you have to think I'm just some burned out lunatic but I've only tripped on shrooms twice in my life. I love growing them. I like the challenges, and I think they are beautiful. If in all your worldly wisdom you deem me a crackpot, just have rogerrabbit share the PM that I sent him. That should cover all the bases. I appreciate any help you can give me in the fore mentioned question.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: mbrozack]
#15661696 - 01/13/12 03:51 PM (4 months, 11 days ago) |
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1 out of 3 could be considered a bad trip. Though what was learned was worth the bad experience. In every case I learned more about myself, those around me and about life. The good times gave me dreams and peace of mind about this world. The bad ones gave me intense inner reflection, made me go back to college and made me closer to family and friends. Drugs don't make you turn to great things. I believe that mushrooms are used in religion for a reason. They are tools to be used properly and a spirit guide is usually needed if you are not strong enough yourself. They are not drugs. In the hardest points of my life, or when I was unsure of myself, I had bad trips but they gave me direction. If I do them now I make sure that I am pure of thought and body, with no problems. Though I couldn't if I had not faced the dark sides of me. Even now I work to be better. I fail a lot but I am forever a student and teacher. We are all of the same, different in our own ways. I have learned to meditate without them now. The keys to life are opening doors in the mind.
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Good poll. Information is so very important.
To elaborate on my own condition - I have a hard time coming up on shrooms. Never fainted, though have felt faint, and can get quite shaky when coming up - mild muscle spasms and a general sense of nervous energy building up inside. Once the come-up is completed the trip is always fantastic.
I get very rare, very minor, lingering sensory effects when sober - usually when looking at something that is quite trippy anyway. The most severe case was after very foolishly smoking salvia in spliff-form, continuously, over a long weekend. In fact I relate most of my cases of of HPPD-like experiences to the reckless use of other drugs - salvia & MDMA mainly.
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i often get pains across sholder, neck and arms. kind of muscle ache like after exercise. nothing that stops me enjoying myself. iv only had a handfull of bad trips among 60 or so shroom trips. Iv overdone it once or twice and ended up in a world far from reality.
however iv recently become concerned about hppd and worry i might have early signs of it. hope not!
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 Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#15764356 - 02/05/12 12:18 PM (3 months, 19 days ago) |
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First off, awesome poll Wiccan. Another great contribution to the boards.
Ok, so most of the effects I have found from different psychedelics in the past.
LSD
I get weird, too-sensitive finger tip sensations after tripping (and while tripping). Its uncomfortable. Also, I seem to have bad short term memory after acid. I cant seem to remember things for awhile. There was a period where I just used LSD (no other drug) and my S.T. memory was pretty bad. It was like weed side-effects.
I also noticed, but not complete sure, that my emotions became more volatile, like I would get angry easier then usual, as well as irritated faster. I also become sad easier too, and its pretty intense.
I made a thread about my volatile emotions very acid here.
And, as with most drugs, I have a feeling of "this situation would be better with Acid. Without, its not as good". It usually goes away after a few weeks of not using.
Shrooms
Different side-effects for the shrooms than acid. Same volatile emotions, but more to the depressive and lethargic side than angry/irritated side. I also feel strange in real life too, like out of place or something. Disconnected from reality in a way. Its not too bad, but noticeable.
Saliva D.
This stuff just makes me feel weird when I'm sober, like kinda spacey and out of it. I dont really like the actual high either. No more weird Saliva for me.
Morning Glories
When I took M.G. as a kid, I had the worst side effects out of all my psy use. I had like this fish-eye visual distortions while sober. And in general I felt disconnected from reality, really spacey. I did not like it at all. It was distracting and concerning to my mental health. The good thing is it went away when I stopped using. I also had trippy dreams weeks after the M.G. dose. I liked this, cause the dreams were ultra-real and very trippy! It was nice. Other than the dreams, I did not like the other side effects.
Overall, I would say psychedelics makes me feel weird in "normal" life, which is sorta bad. But I still enjoy them, just sometimes the side-effects are bad. And all psychedelics give me random senses of "flashback effects", and they are always mild, like a touch sensation or a mild visual "whoa" moment. Also, sometimes time-distortions, like slowed time. I like those, but it was always kinda like "maybe I should slow down on the psys".
Now I know use in balance, and dont become dependent on them, or you will have more side effects.
Use Psys in balance
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#15772273 - 02/07/12 03:47 AM (3 months, 18 days ago) |
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I ate a baby.....didnt see a warning on the acid!!!!
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Irishdrunk]
#15782335 - 02/09/12 02:44 AM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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i used to have drug induced psychosis.
terrible disease.. wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: leafing]
#15786172 - 02/09/12 09:42 PM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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Holy sh**!
How did you escape the psychosis? I always thought once you hit insane, there is no return.
Are you back frrrriend?
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#15786475 - 02/09/12 11:02 PM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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slit my wrists.. almost died.. and well finally got my benzos back cause of it.. fucking parents thought i was abusing them for 3 years.. which led me on a slow downward spiral to suicide
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: leafing]
#15799523 - 02/12/12 06:13 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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It's just so crazy how every time is different.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: tob]
#15808187 - 02/14/12 12:26 PM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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I've tripped for way over 50 times in two years. The actual number could be closer to a hundred or more, I never counted. At least once a month, sometimes once a week. Once or twice two days in a row. I mean hardcore over-using.
I'd say they were 97% good trips. I had one actually bad trip at the very beginning, then it took two years to have another bad one. The next one after that was also bad, as was the one after that. Eventually I took a break, but after a couple of months tried LSD. The trip was also bad, and had the same visuals/elements from previous bad trips.
I think it's not just about the person, but about how often you trip. Also, of course, set and setting. But talking about adverse effects;
All my bad trips had one thing in common; extreme nausea. Also, stomach-problems (could be associated with the latter, but no matter, just to rhyme). I also once had a really bad headache while coming down from a trip, resulting in vomiting. I figure it might have been because I was doing the lemontek on that one (one possible explanation for headaches is a high level of acidic content in the body, and come on - lemon juice), but one can never be sure. It didn't happer on any previous or latter similar experiences.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Qualophile]
#15829734 - 02/18/12 08:33 PM (3 months, 6 days ago) |
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How is MDMA not a serotonin psychedelic? I took so much of that shit back in the day and it totally fucked up my brain. I did not include it in my survey answers, but I feel it is a strong psychedelic and Ive had multiple closed eye visuals while triping on E.
I miss MDMA.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: eaSe]
#15885080 - 03/01/12 08:43 AM (2 months, 26 days ago) |
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This data is very interesting!
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