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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical Quotes [Re: thefloodbehind]
    #14934266 - 08/16/11 08:44 PM (9 months, 6 days ago)

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That which does not kill me, makes me stronger.
Friedrick Nietzche

There's been a lot of discussions as to if Nietzche was a precursor of the Nazi ideology, but this quotation in my opinion couldn't be called violence-impelling.




Nietzsche was definitely down with violence. It's a trait of the strong knightly/aristocratic morality versus the pacifism of the weak ascetic morality.




I think he was waving to and fro between humanitarian values, which were inherent to such learned man as he was, and desire to be strong and cruel, which he wasn't.


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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Silversoul]
    #14934302 - 08/16/11 08:53 PM (9 months, 6 days ago)

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"Champagne for my real friends and real pain for my sham friends" -- Oscar Wilde




I believe that the great Oscar wasn't completely honest here: if his friends had been just ordinary people, they would have thanked him for the champagne, but taking into account how exquisite pleasures he admired, that's quite probably that they thanked him also for the pain.


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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: roomshunter]
    #14935097 - 08/16/11 11:21 PM (9 months, 6 days ago)

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when the love of power is overcome by the power of love, this world will know peace- Jimi Hendrix




...if this world will survive the struggle between the former and the latter.


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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: tim.johnson717]
    #14942537 - 08/18/11 12:20 PM (9 months, 4 days ago)

“Spinoza says that if a stone which has been projected through the air, had consciousness, it would believe that it was moving of its own free will. I add this only, that the stone would be right. The impulse given it is for the stone what the motive is for me, and what in the case of the stone appears as cohesion, gravitation, rigidity, is in its inner nature the same as that which I recognise in myself as will, and what the stone also, if knowledge were given to it, would recognise as will.” — Schopenhauer


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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: tim.johnson717]
    #14955333 - 08/21/11 02:20 AM (9 months, 2 days ago)

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“Spinoza says that if a stone which has been projected through the air, had consciousness, it would believe that it was moving of its own free will. I add this only, that the stone would be right. The impulse given it is for the stone what the motive is for me, and what in the case of the stone appears as cohesion, gravitation, rigidity, is in its inner nature the same as that which I recognise in myself as will, and what the stone also, if knowledge were given to it, would recognise as will.” — Schopenhauer




interesting, i was just getting into philip k dick lately thanks to another poster
so i was doing the normal thing when starting a new book and reading up on my author as i got more interested and reading his quotes and i saw this one -

"Spinoza saw... that if a falling stone could reason, it would think, "I want to fall at the rate of thirty-two feet per second."

its cool how we keep ideas from people from so long ago.

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when the love of power is overcome by the power of love, this world will know peace- Jimi Hendrix




...if this world will survive the struggle between the former and the latter.




i think the world will have no trouble, but the people may turn out distinctly different :shineon:


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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: Silversoul]
    #14955343 - 08/21/11 02:26 AM (9 months, 2 days ago)

Makes me feel less guilty for all the stupid things I've done in my life. I like it :thumbup:.


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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: dustinthewind13]
    #14989088 - 08/27/11 09:03 PM (8 months, 26 days ago)

"An eye for an eye will only make the whole world blind." -Gandhi

"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." -Gandhi

"If a man who cannot count finds a four-leaf clover, is he lucky?"  ~Stanislaw J. Lec

"Before enlightenment - chop wood, carry water.  After enlightenment - chop wood, carry water."  ~Zen Buddhist Proverb

"You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep."  ~Navajo Proverb

"Some people walk in the rain, others just get wet."  ~Roger Miller

"Fact comes from bullshit." -Grandpa

"They are all missing the point....but at least they are trying." -Me


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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #14995761 - 08/29/11 09:15 AM (8 months, 25 days ago)

"You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep."  ~Navajo Proverb

I especially like this one. :thumbup:


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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: dustinthewind13]
    #15005050 - 08/31/11 02:25 AM (8 months, 23 days ago)

We're all going to die, all of us, what a circus!  That alone should make us love each other but it doesn't.  We are terrorized and flattened by trivialities, we are eaten up by nothing.
--Charles Bukowski


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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: deCypher]
    #15006197 - 08/31/11 10:42 AM (8 months, 22 days ago)

I have only ever read snippets of Bukowski's work, I would like to read it as it was intended sometime soon.




"I believe that almost all our sadnesses are moments of tension that we find paralyzing because we no longer hear our surprised feelings living. Because we are alone with the alien thing that has entered into our self; because everything intimate and accustomed is for an instant taken away; because we stand in the middle of a transition where we cannot remain standing. For this reason the sadness too passes: the new thing in us, the added thing, has entered into our heart, has gone into its inmost chamber and is not even there any more, is already in our blood. And we do not learn what it was. We could easily be made to believe that nothing has happened, and yet we have changed, as a house changes into which a guest has entered. We cannot say who has come, perhaps we shall never know, but many signs indicate that the future enters into us in this way in order to transform itself in us long before it happens. And this is why it is so important to be lonely and attentive when one is sad: because the apparently uneventful and stark moment at which our future sets foot in us is so much closer to life than that other noisy and fortuitous point of time at which it happens to us as if from outside. The more still, more patient and more open we are when we are sad, so much the deeper and so much the more unswervingly does the new go into us, so much the better do we make it ours, so much the more will it be our destiny, and when on some later day it "happens" (that is, steps forth out of us to others), we shall feel in our inmost selves akin and near to it. And that is necessary. It is necessary and toward this our development will move gradually that nothing strange should befall us, but only that which has long belonged to us. We have already had to think so many of our concepts of motion, we will also gradually learn to realize that that which we call destiny goes forth from within people, not from without into them. Only because so many have not absorbed their destinies and transmuted them within themselves while they were living in them, have they not recognized what has gone forth out of them; it was so strange to them that, in their bewildered fright, they thought it must only just then have entered into them, for they swear never before to have found anything like it in themselves. As people were long mistaken about the motion of the sun, so they are even yet mistaken about the motion of that which is to come. The future stands firm . . . but we move in infinite space.

How should it not be difficult for us?" - Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet


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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: penelope_tree]
    #15033905 - 09/05/11 04:18 PM (8 months, 17 days ago)

"The thing is to find a truth which is true for me, to find the idea for which I can live and die. ... I certainly do not deny that I still recognize an imperative of knowledge and that through it one can work upon men, but it must be taken up into my life, and that is what I now recognize as the most important thing." -Søren Kierkegaard


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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: Numb]
    #15049921 - 09/08/11 06:17 PM (8 months, 14 days ago)

"In the absence of clearly-defined goals, we become strangely loyal to performing daily trivia until we become enslaved by it."  -  Robert Heinlein

Robert Heinlein... good stuff.


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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: MarshmallowPie]
    #15064303 - 09/11/11 06:10 PM (8 months, 11 days ago)



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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: WScott]
    #15131610 - 09/25/11 09:57 AM (7 months, 28 days ago)

“It's a cheat code to true human conciousness”


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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical Quotes [Re: deCypher]
    #15234351 - 10/16/11 02:50 PM (7 months, 7 days ago)

All the reasonings of men are not worth one sentiment of women.


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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: thefloodbehind]
    #15237488 - 10/17/11 07:32 AM (7 months, 7 days ago)

“The unexamined life is not worth living” – Socrates

Wiki: Socrates’ [wiki] belief that we must reflect upon the life we live was partly inspired by the famous phrase inscribed at the shrine of the oracle at Delphi, “Know thyself.” The key to finding value in the prophecies of the oracle was self-knowledge, not a decoder ring.

Socrates felt so passionately about the value of self-examination that he closely examined not only his own beliefs and values but those of others as well. More precisely, through his relentless questioning, he forced people to examine their own beliefs. He saw the citizens of his beloved Athens sleepwalking through life, living only for money, power, and fame, so he became famous trying to help them.


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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: SwizZLe]
    #15241135 - 10/17/11 10:05 PM (7 months, 6 days ago)

Jorge Luis Borges
"every man should be capable of all ideas and I understand that in the future this will be the case."

"The tactics of terrorism are to provoke an excess of reality, and to have the system collapse under this excess." -Daniel Pinchbeck

"The dream is its own interpretation" -The Talmud

"...the worth and power of emotion and the natural world have been devalued and replaced by a narcissistic fascination with the abstract and the metaphysical." -Terence Mckenna


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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical Quotes [Re: deCypher]
    #15262739 - 10/22/11 04:31 PM (7 months, 1 day ago)

The sole means now for the saving of the beings of the planet Earth would be to implant again into their presences a new organ... of such properties that every of of these unfortunates during the process of existence would constantly sense and be cognizant of the inevitability of his own death as well as the death of everyone upon whom his eyes or attention rests.
  Only such a sensation and such a cognizance can now destroy the egoism completely crystallized in them.

          G. I. Gurdjieff, All and Everything


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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical Quotes [Re: Ductor]
    #15264468 - 10/22/11 11:21 PM (7 months, 1 day ago)

"All we are is dust in the wind, dude." - Ted Logan




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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical Quotes [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #15264479 - 10/22/11 11:26 PM (7 months, 1 day ago)

:lol:


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