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New Zealand Season 2009
#10185352 - 04/17/09 03:05 PM (6 months, 18 days ago) |
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Found these in my garden this morning. I'm pretty certain of they are psilocybe subaeruginosa but I've only ever hunted weraroa noveazelandiae. So I'd love a postive id before I become that weirdo watering his garden at night.





That guy on the right is suspect. He's what usually grows in my garden which is why I never took a serious look last year.
I know it's a tiny start but it's a start. Good hunting everyone!
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: Hence]
#10185419 - 04/17/09 03:17 PM (6 months, 18 days ago) |
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I can't tell for sure about that red one, but with the print and the bruising on the stems...that top one looks awfully promising
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sick!
They are definately subs The bottom one on the right isnt though... But the rest are all go 
cant believe the season is underway already!
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Because, at my green stage in hunting, I love heaps of details I reckon others might be keen to know too. I've found two clusters growing in my garden in 2 places about 1m apart; divided by grass. One is a drift wood based mulch (many inches deep) The other used to be aswell but we converted it to a flower garden with compost and cocobean husks. Which is an amazing mulch but I don't think it had anything to do with these mycelia. Makes your garden smell like chocolate!
Both beds have been dry for exactly one week. Heaps of dew in the mornings but no frost since early last week. The last night was cold as but the couple before were mild enough to be outside in shorts.
I reckon a week after Monday's rains (27th) we'll be seeing alot of posts.
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: Hence]
#10185943 - 04/17/09 04:53 PM (6 months, 18 days ago) |
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Most of the pics you posted are Psilocybe subaeruginosa, the red one in the last pic is Leratiomyces ceres. Its presence is a good indicator that the habitat is good for other wood chip mushrooms such as the active Psilocybes.
Congratulations on making the first find from NZ this year!
Approximately where in NZ are you located?
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Thanks Alan, I've had my shroom googles on for weeks. Didn't think I'd find them so close to home, pretty chuffed.
Other than the obvious red lera ceres, thanks for that info. Was any of these others suspect?




Sorry it's a bit blurred but this is the mulch.

To answer your question Wellington Region.
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: Hence]
#10186096 - 04/17/09 05:21 PM (6 months, 18 days ago) |
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Mean! Looking good, I've been out hunting the last few weekends and scouting areas but no luck yet.
Too much good weather still, this coming week is meant to bring a little moisture but you're right, the week after should be when it starts. What suburb in Wellington are you in? Have you watered that garden a lot recently?
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: nickc]
#10186127 - 04/17/09 05:30 PM (6 months, 18 days ago) |
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Only this morning actually cuz I never thought to look here. Especially since it's been so dry.
I'm a ways N or Wellington but not too far like say Levin. Somewhere in there. Same weather, less wind.
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: Hence]
#10186604 - 04/17/09 07:21 PM (6 months, 18 days ago) |
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well done hence! i, too found a sub patch in my back garden this season. not nearly as nice as your one though, congratulations. i'm going to check out some local patches (wanganui) today and when i get back to wellington i'll be doing some searching there in the next few weeks as well. good luck everybody.
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: WANGanui]
#10193439 - 04/19/09 02:04 AM (6 months, 16 days ago) |
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Nice finds with the subs dude! I've been keeping my eyes out up in Auckland but I haven't done enough travelling to find the right spots. I'm guessing within the month we'll be finding them here and there if we're lucky. Bought myself some new LED torches, and hopefully moving out to the Waitakeres very soon! Should be a great years haul!
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: Fler]
#10196258 - 04/19/09 03:57 PM (6 months, 16 days ago) |
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I've got pins from africa growing 4m from my back door.

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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: Hence]
#10197511 - 04/19/09 07:21 PM (6 months, 16 days ago) |
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First miserably wet day in Wellington today! 
Let's hope it keeps up for at least tonight and tomorrow...
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: nickc]
#10202545 - 04/20/09 04:11 PM (6 months, 15 days ago) |
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I've been trying find a timeline for P.sub growth but I can't fine anything interms of time. Is it a week from pinhead to full cap, ball park?
The subs I've found are all so small I'm wondering how long I should wait before I start picking? Should I be watering them, caring for them, singing to them off key?
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: Hence]
#10203436 - 04/20/09 07:22 PM (6 months, 15 days ago) |
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Psilocybe subaeruginosa. Here are two images taken of the same specimen in it's natural habitat after one week of growth!
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: inski]
#10204406 - 04/20/09 10:24 PM (6 months, 15 days ago) |
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Nice shots inski. Was that sub growing on a living tree?
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: Shroomeup]
#10204426 - 04/20/09 10:28 PM (6 months, 15 days ago) |
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It was dead but still standing, note the rhizomorphic mycelium growing up the base of the tree in the first image:) inski.
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: inski]
#10204642 - 04/20/09 11:09 PM (6 months, 15 days ago) |
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Woot woot, ill be back in NZ soon and on the hunt!
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: Stoi]
#10205456 - 04/21/09 04:16 AM (6 months, 14 days ago) |
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Nice specimen inski..Working in Melbourne this season but am looking forward to hunting new ground:D Cant wait to see this years photos
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: karode13]
#10208718 - 04/21/09 05:29 PM (6 months, 14 days ago) |
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To my surprise, a friend has found a nice collection of subs here in Christchurch. The season has hardly begun really, considering we have had below average rainfall for April so far. Though this batch was old and starting to degrade, so these must of popped up from the heavy rainfall 2 weeks back.
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greetings all after a quick scope around today i found a small haul of subs today in auckland looks as if the season up here has officially started.. [image]http://www.shroomery.org/forums/thumbs/09-17/037114100-thumb_100_0280.<a href="http://files.shroomery.org/files/09-17/037113628-100_0281.jpg" target="_blank"> jpg[ /image]</a>
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: mr extreme]
#10217185 - 04/22/09 11:10 PM (6 months, 13 days ago) |
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Hi mr extreme, congratulations! I believe you have opened the season in Auckland. What was the substrate you found them on? I have been looking almost everyday in Auckland and I haven't found them, yet?
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: pulento]
#10224050 - 04/24/09 01:26 AM (6 months, 12 days ago) |
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Hi there pulento...I found these growing from bark covered over with soil and grass this is the second year i have picked from this spot wasn't expecting to find these as there really hasn't been enough rain but low and behold there they are ill post a pic of there growing environment within the next couple of days..
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: mr extreme]
#10228617 - 04/24/09 08:45 PM (6 months, 11 days ago) |
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well done extreme...have had a wee look around a few areas but haven't noted any mushroom growth of any kind whatsoever....will have to keep a close eye peeled from now on.
Where those from mulch?
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: Cyberdyne]
#10229973 - 04/25/09 02:56 AM (6 months, 10 days ago) |
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grassy dirt covered bark,Had another scout round today and found these i assume they must of come through with the last lot of rain as a few look a bit aged the next few days are supposed to be wet so that should really get the season going...........good luck guys an girls!!
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: mr extreme]
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: wowitch17]
#10232729 - 04/25/09 06:48 PM (6 months, 10 days ago) |
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here's some pics of some P's Aucklandi picked yesterday, note the dark blue almost black staining and leathery caps......


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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: mr extreme]
#10232759 - 04/25/09 06:54 PM (6 months, 10 days ago) |
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Where abouts in auckland are you? not specifically just like east, west whatever
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West auckland dude.
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Nice picks so far. Looks like Auckland is doing just as well as any place. I've seen subs and gyms all over my area but haven't had to pick any since I've been picking 1g (dried) every day from my own gardens for the last week.
Can anyone tell me the shelf life of cracker dried subs sealed in glass with silica?
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: Hence]
#10233978 - 04/25/09 11:13 PM (6 months, 10 days ago) |
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Ive stored up to 6 months with no noticeable potency loss or mold infestation I'd say airtight probably a year max to reap maximum potency.
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: mr extreme]
#10237960 - 04/26/09 05:35 PM (6 months, 9 days ago) |
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Nice finds guys, mr extreme, are you certain those are P. aucklandii, what substrate were they fruiting from? Do you have any images of the natural habitat? inski.
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: mr extreme]
#10241397 - 04/27/09 07:39 AM (6 months, 8 days ago) |
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Woohoo!! It seems mushroom season came around real quick this year... when i went MX riding in woodhill this weekend i saw alot of amanita's and a few brown-topped caps(didnt bother stopping to take a look, they were just a blur really). Def gonna take a look around this weekend when i go!!
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: crazymofo]
#10245696 - 04/27/09 09:03 PM (6 months, 8 days ago) |
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Just been for a walk today, seen about 5 different types of mushrooms springing up all over the place!
I'd say after this week of rain and once the temperature drops we'll be right into it.
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: nickc]
#10246104 - 04/27/09 09:58 PM (6 months, 8 days ago) |
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It's barely rained at all this season and it's been really mild. I don't want to jinx anything but I'm pleasantly baffled.



Anyone had much success with the dosage calculator? Reckon there's a handicap due to first grow potency?
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: Hence]
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Quote:
Anyone had much success with the dosage calculator? Reckon there's a handicap due to first grow potency?
Awesome pictures. I think the dosage calc works pretty well.
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: Hence]
#10246228 - 04/27/09 10:14 PM (6 months, 8 days ago) |
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Nice haul Hence Keep up the pics
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: inski]
#10247564 - 04/28/09 04:22 AM (6 months, 7 days ago) |
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hey there inski got some habitat shots up you can see a few subs popping up this was round about the same area i found the p, aucklandii i might be wrong but these are leathery capped staining dark blue purple with a black dark brown spore print?? extremly potent correct me if im wrong please... and to all other posters nice pics keep em coming in!!!


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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: Hence]
#10247722 - 04/28/09 05:34 AM (6 months, 7 days ago) |
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I like your psyc garden pics man working on hard on mine fingers crossed and ill have shrooms popping up on a san pedro /morning glory back drop weed matted and brought in some top notch contam bark so a litttle more rain and ill get some pics up of my own little psyc garden!!
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: mr extreme]
#10247727 - 04/28/09 05:37 AM (6 months, 7 days ago) |
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Nice pics mr extreme, Psilocybe aucklandii always fruits directly from clay soil, never from wood, here are some images of my finds of P. aucklandii from previous seasons.
 Your mushrooms are definately an active Psilocybe species but I don't think its P. aucklandii. inski.
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: inski]
#10247756 - 04/28/09 05:57 AM (6 months, 7 days ago) |
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buzzy thanks for the info on that inski so the ones ive treated as aucklandii are presumably older stages of the sub" genre?? i have a couple of pictures from last year on my profile i couldnof sworn were aucklandii!!

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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: mr extreme]
#10247770 - 04/28/09 06:05 AM (6 months, 7 days ago) |
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Yes they are probably part of the P. subaeruginosa family. inski.
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: inski]
#10253819 - 04/29/09 01:44 AM (6 months, 7 days ago) |
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HI EVERY ONE PLEASE HELP ME OUT.
Hey there, I'm in auckland and wanting to start hunting  I do shrooms a couple times a year to gain a fresh perspective on things but have always bought them from a mate.... so i would like to give hunting a go:D
Can you tell me a few tips on identifying gold tops? and what habitats they grow in?
Thank you so much, im in awe of this forum, you guys rock haha
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: Yellow35]
#10253869 - 04/29/09 02:07 AM (6 months, 6 days ago) |
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hey are these active? they white with black gills, white stem and black brused cap
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: Yellow35]
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: Yellow35]
#10253910 - 04/29/09 02:31 AM (6 months, 6 days ago) |
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Shitty pics, but it looks like a decaying Coprinellus micaceus.
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Went out for a big hunt out at Woodhill today but only found a few very small aucklandii + a lot of different other ones. Just looking for a possible ID, I dont have a camera but for anyone searching out there before im sure they'd know what im describing. {Dark brown top, small nipple, thin stem, grows abundantly} species? Also {White in middle going to brown on the outsides,no nipple, thin stem, short, also grows abundantly. Any possibly IDS?
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: xthrx]
#10255063 - 04/29/09 10:48 AM (6 months, 6 days ago) |
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That doesn't sound like Psilocybe aucklandii. You should get a camera so you can show us what you are talking about. If it doesn't have a purple-brown spore print and bruise blue where damaged, don't eat it.
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I know. I wasnt describing aucklandii, I was describing the other mushrooms I found so i know what they are and can easily distinguish between them all.
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: xthrx]
#10260071 - 04/30/09 12:59 AM (6 months, 6 days ago) |
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My mate who I told to keep an eye out, found a bunch of subs in the bush on the West Coast today! Will post up pics tonight. Shouldn't be a problem flying them back to Wellington eh? Just on an Air NZ link flight.
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: nickc]
#10260698 - 04/30/09 05:04 AM (6 months, 5 days ago) |
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Wellingtonian here
Well, I've got a spot already, had a few hauls reported by friends a couple weeks ago now... went to the botanical gardens a week ago, round the kids playground... not much though. I saw quite a few that LOOKED like subs, but didn't bruise at all, so I just left em.
mod edit: No asking for exact locations.
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: riku122]
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riku122 said: Wellingtonian here
Well, I've got a spot already, had a few hauls reported by friends a couple weeks ago now... went to the botanical gardens a week ago, round the kids playground... not much though. I saw quite a few that LOOKED like subs, but didn't bruise at all, so I just left em.
Anyone recommend anywhere round the hutt region? I was thinking of Mt. Climbie...
Mt Climbie? I've spent 20years in the Hutt valley and never heard of that place. Where is it? Bot gardens is far too dodgy for me...
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: nickc]
#10264391 - 04/30/09 06:15 PM (6 months, 5 days ago) |
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wellington hunter reporting in. had a little look around town and also checked out the town belt pine forest out by mount victoria. saw a few little amanitas and little else - it's a pretty cool walk though.
i'm thinking of checking out karori or maybe te aro next. i also might have a little look around the bot gardens seeing as i haven't visited them yet and i've heard they are amazing.
mod edit: No asking for hunting partners.
Edited by Alan Rockefeller (04/30/09 06:16 PM)
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: WANGanui]
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WANGanui said: wellington hunter reporting in. had a little look around town and also checked out the town belt pine forest out by mount victoria. saw a few little amanitas and little else - it's a pretty cool walk though.
i'm thinking of checking out karori or maybe te aro next. i also might have a little look around the bot gardens seeing as i haven't visited them yet and i've heard they are amazing.
mod edit: No asking for hunting partners.
Just checked Te Aro today, just got home from it. Nothing around, a few LBMs and some little red mushrooms but not a lot.
Here are the ones my mate found on the West Coast, look like subs! He said they are bruising on the stems blue. Ignore the white ones, I've told him to chuck them away.
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: nickc]
#10265992 - 04/30/09 10:08 PM (6 months, 5 days ago) |
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Theyre not subs. Looks like stropharia aurantiaca
Edited by Shroomeup (04/30/09 11:01 PM)
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: Shroomeup]
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Shroomeup said: Theyre not subs. Looks like stropharia aurantiaca
Ah okay, good to know. I'll tell him to keep a better look out. Should he be looking for subaeruginosas in the West Coast, SI?
Just went for a hunt in bot gardens after saying I wouldn't, nothing around but some interesting mushrooms on a dead tree and an absolute SHITLOAD of little browns absolutely everywhere. There were literally thousands of them all over the place.
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: nickc]
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1 - 2) Gymnopilus 3 - 7) Psathyrella
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: nickc]
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Hey! I am so excited. I have been trying to find psylocibe in Auckland for years (2005)and this is the first time I found more than one or two, mainly because I didn't know anyone to ask where to find them. I am pretty sure they are subs, can you help me to identify them? I am doing a print that I will post tomorrow. I found this in central Auckland.

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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: pulento]
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Those are probably Psilocybe subaeruginosa, make sure they all stain blue.
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Hey all hows it going, hopefully the hunting is going well... the weather has been pretty good for it.
Anyway I went for my first hunt yesterday afternoon, found a fairly sizable patch of P.subaeruginosa but didnt pick as I'm cautious. However returned early this morning to pick up my first subs of the season.

Good luck and happy hunting.
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: nzd]
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Hey guys, I found this today, I know its very small and I should've left it but it had fallen over, maybe eaten by bugs, there was more where I found it so I just took this one cause they were all tiny. Looking for some ID as to whether its good or not. Sorry I have no idea how to make the pics small and then be enlarged =\


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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: nzd]
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nzd said: Hey all hows it going, hopefully the hunting is going well... the weather has been pretty good for it.
Anyway I went for my first hunt yesterday afternoon, found a fairly sizable patch of P.subaeruginosa but didnt pick as I'm cautious. However returned early this morning to pick up my first subs of the season.

Good luck and happy hunting.
Fuck! What a haul! What city are you in?
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Im gonna be over there this summer, totally got to go hunting...
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Hey guys, I found this today, I know its very small and I should've left it but it had fallen over, maybe eaten by bugs, there was more where I found it so I just took this one cause they were all tiny. Looking for some ID as to whether its good or not. Sorry I have no idea how to make the pics small and then be enlarged
You found a Psathyrella. If you want to get high, its no good.
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: nickc]
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Fuck! What a haul! What city are you in?
Im just in south auckland man.
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: nzd]
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 Hello! Found these today.. Hoping somebody can just clarify for me what the below type are. In the the top image is the common Subaeruginosa type right.. and in the bottom image is the seemingly rare type that we come across scarcely.. Can somebody please clarify what this type is?
I've always assumed the top image to be "gold tops" and the bottom image "blue meanies"?
Much appreciated, Agradecimiento! Cheers!
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Nice finds, The first one is Psilocybe subaeruginosa, the second one is this yet to be described species that I just had success cultivating! Rhizomorphs. inski.
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Nice work on cultivating them. So there isn't a technical name for this species yet? Are they are slightly stronger than the Sub's? Do you notice any significant difference in the type of trip?
Bombardment of questions haha, just intrigued. Thanks
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Thanks, they are stronger than Psilocybe subaeruginosa but I suspect that is due to the very dense flesh making them weigh quite a lot more than P. subaeruginosa, no there is no species name for this mushroom yet! I would describe these as extremely potent and would advise starting with a very low dose for a first time! inski
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: potatonet]
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Hi potatonet, none to very few mushrooms in New Zealand in summer, our season goes from April through to August which is Autumn and Winter here! You would be better of coming here in mid May! inski.
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: inski]
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inski said: Hi potatonet, none to very few mushrooms in New Zealand in summer, our season goes from April through to August which is Autumn and Winter here! You would be better of coming here in mid May! inski.
If he's on the other side of the world and is meaning when his summer came, which in effect would be around about our June. Just a thought.
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Nice finds man Ive found alot of those bottom pictured ones and yes they got quite a kick to them enjoy.............. here's a few pics of my early morning hunt today found on bark and the smaller ones found growing in mulch covered in grass..



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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: mr extreme]
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yeah, Im coming over in the summer for the upper hemisphere....
so autumn and winter for you guys. =-)
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: pulento]
#10273563 - 05/02/09 02:05 PM (6 months, 3 days ago) |
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Going out hunting today in the mighty westcoast forests. A great spot so hopefully will find some subs and will post later.
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I wouldn't be surprised if those are like the equivelant of P. baeocystis. I like th e bottle cap margin.
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: jet li]
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Found a load of pins growing they look hopeful ill wait till they get nice and big before i take some pics. Hopefully they are the type that make you go
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Hey there funky people, can i pester you with a few questions? 1) how come its better to go picking in the morning? 2) how many days of rain are needed to start growing? 3) will shrooms grow out of fallen leaves?
Got a couple mushrooms growing in my back yard but pretty sure they not active at all i'll post a picture of the mushrooms and my back yard so maybe you can give your 2 cents on if i will get any magical friends growing thanks
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Hey here are some pics from my back yard will i get any active ones growing here?, the red and white spotted one was a shroom i saw when i was out is it active?
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Went out looking for Subs today, found none but found all of these! 
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: nickc]
#10287967 - 05/05/09 12:35 AM (6 months, 1 day ago) |
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I think its time for me to venture into the western hills of Auckland for some proper hunting, but in the meantime I'd be oh so very grateful if someone could help me id these:
 Which look to me like subs? they had a black spore print as well as:
 Which is a long shot but maybe aucklandii, they seem active though as they bruised blue, but they were growing in grass  Sorry about shitty quality photos, plan on getting hold of a better camera
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: nickc]
#10287986 - 05/05/09 12:38 AM (6 months, 1 day ago) |
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: wowitch17]
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haha yeah, just ate 10g so let's see what happens!
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: Tahetl]
#10288358 - 05/05/09 02:41 AM (6 months, 23 hours ago) |
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top pictures definatly not an active species... what colour spore print for the bottom ones?? they dont look to be actives but you did say they bruised blue??
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: nickc]
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hi guys, im from auckland, im prity new to hunting, only been to riverhead until yesterday, went to woodhill. at woodhill i found sum but im unsure if they are active. they are dark brown in the midle and generaly get lighter towards the outside, and most have a pale or white ring around the outside, they were one of the most common shroom there and have a white stalk, sometimes tan. ne help would be apreshated on what to look for at woodhill.
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: buzzysam]
#10288377 - 05/05/09 02:52 AM (6 months, 23 hours ago) |
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hey guys, found these p. subs in a garden at school today, so i quickly grabbed all of them!!!







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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: iNDUCT]
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nice find!
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: Tahetl]
#10294036 - 05/05/09 10:43 PM (6 months, 3 hours ago) |
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Which look to me like subs? they had a black spore print as well as:

I would toss these. They don't look too good, whatever they are.
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: jet li]
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Induct in what habitat were those found? Mulch garden? Bark chips?
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: xthrx]
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Hey there xthrx, are you from new Zealand?
I found those mean p. Subs in a mulch garden growing along with a few little shrubby plants. Tomorrow I will take a photo of where I found them. I definitely didn't expect to find them at school!!!
Thanks, iNDUCT
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: jet li]
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Quote:
Tahetl said:
Which look to me like subs? they had a black spore print as well as:

I would toss these. They don't look too good, whatever they are.
Yeah, I think I might just, the print turned out to be brownish, and after having a better look at the others left in the spot, I'm thinking the bruising was just dirt.
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: Tahetl]
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Yeah mate, Im in auckland. Hasnt rained much yet on the shore tho =\
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: xthrx]
#10300815 - 05/07/09 04:54 AM (5 months, 29 days ago) |
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Hey I hear you guys talking about hunting on the West Coast (Auckland).. I've only ever hunted in suburban/park woodchip gardens, so I got no idea how to hunt out there. I presume it's still subs we're after, and in the pine forests out there (woodhill, riverhead)? Not in the bush right..
From what I remember though the ground in woodhill is basically really sandy dirt covered in pine needles. Doesn't seem that similar to woodchips heh, but I guess if there's rotting branches around that'd be about right.
Any help or tips without getting too specific would be much appreciated . I've had no luck with woodchip gardens yet this season.. My spots still too dry.
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You would be very lucky to find Psilocybe subaeruginosa in the habitat you described, it's P. aucklandii you would most likely find, it grows from clay soil not wood chips! inski.
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: inski]
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I was recently shroom hunting in NZ for 6 days, and you would have to be blind not to find actives there at the moment. I covered the area of the North Shore in Auckland, and out to woodhill on the west coast, found abundant quantities of aucklandii and subs growing in plain sight. If only here in aussie was quite that good Curse my profit hunting!
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: Stoi]
#10305665 - 05/07/09 11:36 PM (5 months, 29 days ago) |
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Hey, just found these on my first hunt and got told they were active. Is this true?

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Hi again... and thanks for the reply to my first post.
This time I found a few subs (I believe so) and a couple suspicious ones that seem to stain blue. Could you tell me the name of this shroom? I found them in Auckland central in the same spot as before in a public park on bark and wood chip.
  Thanks!
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: pulento]
#10306957 - 05/08/09 07:26 AM (5 months, 28 days ago) |
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Hi all. Found these growing at the base of a manuka tree in the forest (central Otago). The caps are between 1 and 4 cm, had a sticky top and it has a brown spore print. Any ideas?

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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: muddy]
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Looks in-active muddy.
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: xthrx]
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Hi all. Have never had much (any) luck with hunting for shrooms but have always put in the effort. Just found these growing in some pine chips and leaves in a park in West Auckland. Any ideas what they are?
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: timbo]
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They are looking heaps dirty but first guess would be leratiomyces ceres. What colour is the spore print? Is there any bluing on the stipes?
I wouldn't be surprised if you found Subs in the same wood chips but I don't think they have come for you yet. There's a prolific amount of the same, this week, along Author St. might be worth another look soon.
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: pulento]
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I have been reading other posts and the ones in bottom right corner seem to be Rhizomorphs. Can anyone confirm this?
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: pulento]
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yeah man those look to be them nice find
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: mr extreme]
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I braved the weather yesterday and found another 20gm of Weraroa NZ. Thinking about going for another hunt today...
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: nickc]
#10311550 - 05/09/09 04:24 AM (5 months, 27 days ago) |
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Hey there, picked some mushrooms today (in Dunedin) thought I'd check here to get a second opinion on what I've got. All the subaerunginosa's were found in pine woods, while the rest were on a nearby field. Perhaps I'm impatient but none appear to bruise any colour at all; a exciting blue or a worrying black. A strong meat like odor accompanies the red unknown ones in the last photos.
The first lot I believe to be Psilocybe subaeruginosa and were found on a very rotten log. Brown spore print. Slippery slimy cap!
 
Next up I have some old friends, I was under the impression they're Psilocybe semilanceata but after eating 12 of the same size and feeling nothing, I'm not too sure.

Lastly I found a large patch of these mushrooms. They didn't strike me as something I'd heard about being a Psilocybe but looked like they fit the profile. In case it's not obvious in the photos, they're very orange or red. Very thick stem. Can't seem to get a spore print.
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: Alias]
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No actives there I don't think Alias.. Looks like you're hunting for the right kinda colour and shape of cap for subs, but check out more finds in this thread for more of an idea of what the stems and gills should look like.
Can anyone clear up for me where to hunt for in Auckland other than woodchips? So far I have the impression that- Subs - Woodchips / Pine forest floor Weraroa - same as subs Aucklandii - Clay soil (in pine forests? in native bush? anywhere?)
Anything I'm missing? Had a big failure of a woodchip hunt yesterday.. mushrooms everywhere but no subs =\
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That's a bit of a let down; second unsuccessful hunt and it's quite a drive too. At least I'm learning, I'll be a better forager in no time!
As a follow-up, some had bruised black (not blue or purple - unfortunately) on the stems where they'd been grabbed to be picked.
So now I've got a whole lot of worthless mushrooms to dispose of!
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: Tahetl]
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Be careful, the naming of locations is not allowed. rules. inski.
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: Alias]
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Alias, be careful, you should not eat any mushroom that you are not 100% certain of it's identification, it seems you have eaten 12 specimens of a Mycena species, these mushrooms will have a white spore print and do not resemble Psilocybe semilanceata which will have a purple brown print. Some species in this genus contain toxins, and I think at least one species contains psilocin/psilocybin but not the one you have there, I hope you didn't eat any of the specimens in your first two images, I can't tell for certain but they look like a Galerina species, mushrooms in this genus can be deadly! inski..
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: inski]
#10314705 - 05/09/09 09:41 PM (5 months, 27 days ago) |
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Found my first subs of the year in the North Shore.
Ate them shortly after in Mt Eden for a Full Moon drum circle in Takahi Reserve. Was very intense. The season in on!
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: Fler]
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Ah whoops, thanks for the heads up Inski.
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Registered: 02/28/06
Posts: 1,543
Loc: New Zealand
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: Tahetl]
#10315077 - 05/09/09 10:57 PM (5 months, 27 days ago) |
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No worries Even though, to people outside NZ your place description probably wasn't that suggestive, to many people from NZ it would be obvious where you were talking about, I knew exactly the spot! inski.
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Registered: 05/09/09
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Loc: Dunedin
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Re: New Zealand Season 2009 [Re: inski]
#10315570 - 05/10/09 01:14 AM (5 months, 27 days ago) |
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Thanks for the response inski, have not eaten any of the photographed mushrooms and disposed of them all earlier. Will not pick any more of them.
Bit of a scare with the toxic/deadly Mycena, going to play it a lot more carefully and visit here more regularly. I should be posting sometime later in the week regarding the results of another hunt. Will spend more time hunting for the more hidden ones that have obvious blue staining.
Will have to warn quite a few others who are interested in picking Psilocybe's, or our enthusiasm may lead to some unfortunate hospital visits.
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