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 Re: STB tek and pictorial  [Re: Nature Boy]
#10264986 - 04/30/09 09:36 PM (4 years, 26 days ago) |
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i had yellow dream shards from it, very harsh, but it was my first try ever
so i tried an a/b and came out with 1.8g of pure white shards, second try
i like to pull the dimitri as soon as the lye hits the dmt
ie: hot naptha ontop of the acid water b4 u add the lye
so the dmt has a place to run and doesn't oxidize
but i dunno
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Nature Boy]
#10265112 - 04/30/09 09:52 PM (4 years, 26 days ago) |
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Quote:
Nature Boy said:
So...for those who have actually used it exactly as described, I have a question...How's this tek working for you? OK???
N.B.
After his first extraction, SWIM ordered a kilo and is currently CFCing the first pull (put em in the freezer an hour ago, already seeing crystals) for 4 separate extractions:
(Just added naptha to the one on the right)
(leftover bark  )
Thanks again 
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optyks
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Nature Boy]
#10265479 - 04/30/09 10:47 PM (4 years, 26 days ago) |
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I'll let you know tomorrow! I might try to do the complete extract tonight, but I don't know yet...
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: optyks]
#10265726 - 04/30/09 11:27 PM (4 years, 26 days ago) |
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worked great
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OverdoseLiving
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does anyone know where to get lye in ca?
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Zippy
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Quote:
OverdoseLiving said:
does anyone know where to get lye in ca?
ace hardware
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optyks
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Zippy]
#10266482 - 05/01/09 01:44 AM (4 years, 25 days ago) |
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Is it completely necessary to let the basified bark sit for at least 24+ hours, or is... 4 or 5 good enough to get me some yields tonight?
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: optyks]
#10266632 - 05/01/09 02:15 AM (4 years, 25 days ago) |
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On my first attempt I didn't do all the wait times and was disappointed with the result. Overall it's worth it to wait longer IMO.
24+ hours might be overkill though, I've been doing 7-8 hours for the base to break up the bark, add naptha, then another 12 hours for the naptha to pull up the DMT, siphon it off, then freeze precipitate for 4-5 hours, evap half an hour.... final product. 
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: optyks]
#10267025 - 05/01/09 04:31 AM (4 years, 25 days ago) |
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Quote:
optyks said:
Is it completely necessary to let the basified bark sit for at least 24+ hours, or is... 4 or 5 good enough to get me some yields tonight?
I agree with Zippy, 24 hours is a bit overkill, I do three hours and get great yields, but I am using finely powdered RB 
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Zippy said:
add naptha, then another 12 hours for the naptha to pull up the DMT, siphon it off, then freeze precipitate for 4-5 hours, evap half an hour.... final product.
After I've let the basified water sit for three hours, I add the naptha, mix that mofo around with a potato masher (up and down motions) for ten minutes, let separate, mix again for ten minutes, separate again and one more time, then suck it up. Total time for naptha ~ 1.5 hours.
I use this glass 30ml syringe to suck up my naptha, works like a treat, no more rotting rubber bungs in plastic syringes!
Edited by TerryTibbs (05/01/09 04:40 AM)
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fungusmuncher
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: hoodbran]
#10267779 - 05/01/09 11:56 AM (4 years, 25 days ago) |
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I need to pick up one of those glass syringes, it would make pulling a lot easier.
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optyks
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no kiddin. I'm using a freakin 5cc syringe..............................
Needless to say, it takes
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: optyks]
#10267988 - 05/01/09 12:44 PM (4 years, 25 days ago) |
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the glass syringes are mostly made for solvents and industrial chemicals, and needles fit on them too - I have 14g needles (cow) - Looks like a mean syringe when it's armed! 
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: hoodbran]
#10268303 - 05/01/09 01:41 PM (4 years, 25 days ago) |
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Yeah, I was stealing the 20ml plastic syringes from the lab I work at pretty consistently, but the rubber thing always got stuck, then broke off after a single use 
now I just use a turkey baster, which works great
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Zippy]
#10268427 - 05/01/09 02:03 PM (4 years, 25 days ago) |
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I've been using this all plastic syringe used for mixing oils. It works fine it's just a pain in the ass to pull/push. I have to start looking for a glass one for next weeks extraction.
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optyks
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Welllllllllllllllll WTF.
I followed the directions exactly...
100g NaOH was added to 600mL water... waited for about half hour to cool... Solution did NOT clear up.
100g MHRB was added and stirred for 10 minutes or so. The solution sat, undisturbed in a glass jar for about 24 hours.
150mL warm naphtha was added to the solution and stirred occasionally for 5 minutes or so two or three times over a period of 5 or 6 hours... roughly half was siphoned off, put on a plate, and put in a VERY COLD freezer.
no precipitate that I can see... i'm working on evap right now.. but i'm pretty disappointed, somewhat pissed off, and pretty discouraged by this.. I have used the same naphtha and NaOH and water as before, with the same freezer, yielding great product... And now theres hardly anything to speak of...
Though even with the same batch of MHRB, i have gotten SOME freeze precip crystals... What the fuck??
anyone have ANY ideas? this is my 3rd failed attempt in a row, after having great successes.
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: optyks]
#10270863 - 05/01/09 11:43 PM (4 years, 25 days ago) |
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Let me add some details...
The bark was bought off ebay (looks, smells, seems legit) as an already shredded product.. i think it was 228g initially.. I havent done anything to it physically except break up some chunks, but its pretty well shredded/powdered already.
after sitting for hours, the naphtha layer is still very clear, not yellow as others have described...
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: optyks]
#10271199 - 05/02/09 01:05 AM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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Try putting it in a little jar instead of on a plate when you put it in the freezer. The crystals will stick to the sides.
The yellow cast will develop through more shaking. DONT shake vigorously, but swirl it and mix the chemicals a little more often than you currently are.
Other than that, I don't know what your problem is, you seem to have done everything else right 
Good luck
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: optyks]
#10273330 - 05/02/09 03:11 PM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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optyks said:
150mL warm naphtha was added to the solution and stirred occasionally for 5 minutes or so two or three times over a period of 5 or 6 hours.
Two potential problems in your description. First...don't simply add warm naptha. That won't work. Add naptha and then warm the entire basified water/naptha combo. It's the warm water that needs to take up max spice in solution before it can pass it to the naptha by diffusion. Warming the WATER and NAPTHA combo will insure best results.
Second...5 or 6 hours is (apparently) NOT enough time for the spice to migrate passively by diffusion into the naptha to the point of equilibrium with the concentration of spice in the basified water. I know other people have used less time, I but I always go w/ 24 hours, especially in the first pull, when you have the full volume of 150 cc's of naptha that you have to saturate. Larger volume means more molecules need to move, therefore more time is required.
There's a reason the tek is so explicit on time(s). Please don't make me explain every last detail.
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: optyks]
#10273367 - 05/02/09 03:17 PM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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optyks said:
Let me add some details...
after sitting for hours, the naphtha layer is still very clear, not yellow as others have described...
OK...there's your proof that there's no spice in the naptha! DO NOT bother freeze precipitating OR evaporating naptha that is clear. You are simply wasting time, energy, and materials. Your only product will be frustration.
Every step, instruction, and clue/cue you need for success has been given in the tek. Put the naptha back in the basified water until it looks like weak yellow pee as depicted in the photo. THAT is your spice in solution. No color = no spice.
Take a careful look at Zippy's photo!!! It is a PERFECT example of the difference in appearance I'm referring to!! [Thanks, Zip!]. The jar on the right has had naptha in it only a short while. Compare that color to the ones on the left. Bet he got crystals!
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Edited by Nature Boy (05/02/09 03:22 PM)
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Nature Boy]
#10273588 - 05/02/09 04:09 PM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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Hmmm.. Well, its now been sitting much longer than I said in that post up there, when I tried the freeze precip... I have been mixing it pretty vigorously fairly often, and its still clear as day.....
I'll try heating the whole solution up, as its been at a fairly cool temperature... If that doesnt work, i guess something is saying that i'm not ready for spice again....
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