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 Re: STB tek and pictorial  [Re: davey1]
#15914921 - 03/07/12 06:57 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: davey1]
#15914992 - 03/07/12 07:10 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Here's a pic of pull #2. Last night I posted pull #1 and did 5-6 very good agitations with the jar in a pail of very warm water inbetween the agitations. I then let it sit for ~20 minutes and did pull #2. I pulled about 80% of the naphtha and collected it into two jars and here are the results today after about 22 hours in the freezer:
Pretty bad picture for detail but as you can see, a lot more spice! Pretty good for a fairly rapid second pull I must say! Currently working on agitations and warm water for a 3rd pull tonight!
You following this tek? with 100g's too? Very nice 
Im doing 3 jar right now but only at 50g pulls.
So lemme understand... How long did you wait before doing your first pull?
After your first pull you then *added* fresh naphtha and then did another pull 20 min later with a couple agitations and a warm water bath and thats what you got?
Im impressed... Im shortening up the process my self a lil bit since im using powdered and to see if the naphtha takes in the dmt a little quicker.
Ive had problems when letting powdered sit too long ( I think the powder is the problem)
Ill throw up some pics tomorrow after they freeze for a good while.
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I am using powdered MHRB as well. For this most recent jar I did the following:
1500ml of distilled water put into a 1/2 gallon Ball mason jar. Slowly stirred 100g of lye (same exact brand/bottle of lye as seen on first page of this tek/thread) over ~10 minutes. Dumped 100g of MHRB powder in just 5 minutes later, with the water/lye still quite warm. Did an initial shaking for for about 5 seconds but then let it sit for about 15 minutes to cool down a bit. Then, over the next 2-3 hours or so I would have very violent shaking sessions that would last for about 15 seconds each, literally shaking the crap out of my jar.
I let this sit at room temperature for about 20 hours if I recall correctly. Did one last violent shaking session for 20 seconds then let it sit for about 15 minutes. I then added about 220ml of naphtha (measured the first 150ml then eyeballed about 70ml). I then started my agitations.
I am quite violent with my agitations. I have learned not to fear an emulsion with this level of lye-to-water. I do not shake, however. I violently turn the jar end over end 4-5 complete rotations that involve a lot of splashing I can both see and hear. I then place the jar in a bucket of very warm (almost too hot to keep your hand submerged in but not quite) water that comes up to the jar's neck. I let it sit there inbetween agitations for 10-20 minutes. Every other agitation I dump the water (because it loses it's heat) and put fresh water in the bucket. I do 6-8 agitations before I do my pull and I wait 20 minutes after my final agitation before doing my pull.
I pull with a clear turkey baster with a lot of patience. The clear turkey baster allows me to make sure I do not pull anything but the naphtha. My first pull I only pulled about 40% of the naphtha into a single collection jar. Because I can pull more naphtha, I decided for pull number 2 that I would use two of my collection jars. I could just go for a single, bigger collection jar but I do not. I like these little ones. 
I hope this helps.
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Soo I found a picture around the internet of a recent pull that had the naptha really dark. Would this be an emulsion, or would this be ok to go to a freeze precipitation, hypothetically? If it were an emulsion, how would someone go about fixing it?
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: homosapien]
#15915306 - 03/07/12 08:04 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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BTW, I forgot to add that I do not discard my naphtha but rather I reuse it for subsequent pulls. I have never tried dumping my naphtha and putting fresh naphtha in, but that is something I may try in the future.
Also, my collection jars are "freezer safe" 4oz. Ball mason jars. IMO it's important to have freezer safe ones for your freezer jars. Your other jars it doesn't matter.
Edit: One last thing is I do not reuse any jars. I throw away all my jars, both my 1/2 gallon ones and my collection ones. I do not see the point in cleaning and reusing them when they are so cheap.
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: homosapien]
#15915326 - 03/07/12 08:08 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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homosapien said:
Soo I found a picture around the internet of a recent pull that had the naptha really dark. Would this be an emulsion, or would this be ok to go to a freeze precipitation, hypothetically? If it were an emulsion, how would someone go about fixing it?
That isn't an emulsion, no. It's simply heavilly tainted naphtha. Go ahead and freeze it, see what happens. I don't think you have any other choice.
Emulsions happen when the two layers (your basified solution) and your naphtha do not separate. I have never had that problem, personally. But if you do, the most common way to solve it is to add more lye until it goes away.
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: davey1]
#15915415 - 03/07/12 08:20 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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i would let that sit on top of some water (just pour some fresh water in the jar) that should clean it up.
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: SurReality]
#15915791 - 03/07/12 09:19 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Does anyone know the molarity of NaOH solution needed? 2M or 3M?
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: davey1]
#15917332 - 03/08/12 03:10 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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This is what happened to me on the yellow.
I just procured a fresh sample of DMT. I have only done this previously a few times. It was infused onto some peace pipe smoking blend. An amount was weighed equal to 50mg. After taking just 2 small hits I sat back on the bed with my eyes closed. The only way I can describe it is that it is very much like salvia to me. I felt an extreme push to go somewhere but I was extremely tense and afraid to go wherever it was trying to take me.
I thought I was going to pass out (there was an extreme pressure on my brain that was almost unbearable and very scary) and kept on repeating to myself "you're going to be OK, you're going to be OK". I began to wonder if all the solvent used to infuse it to the leaf had completely evaporated. 70% rubbing alcohol was used. It was dried near a fan for 4 hours or so. I will let it dry openly for the next 6+hours.
The visuals were very much like salvia in that it was a geometric dome/room type place that seemed to be constantly constructing itself. There was sort of a hand type figure enmeshed within the vision/room/place. I almost made out a face of a sort of jester type thing, but not quite. I was much too overwhelmed.
This is a very potent drug for me. I will tread lightly and see what I can see a little at a time. Earlier (around 11pm)I had prepared a an oral dose of 40mg and 3g rue extract (bought online as 10X) I had taken the rue and waited 1.5 hours. I had the D dissolving in a shot glass of cranberry juice. I took the D and waited for 2 more hours with no effect.
I previously tried the rue extract and D another time with no effect either. The D I had was several months old so I thought it might be that. I do have some SR seeds that I will be extracting from in the coming week for another oral experiment. I think I got rooked on the rue extract bought offline. It is certainly not the potency of the mighty D!
I wonder why your oral doses didn't work?
How many times have you smoked DMT (just curious)?
I came to the conclusion that the 10x extract I bought was shit. I still have some Syrian Rue seeds and have made some simple 91% Isopropyl alcohol extractions on them. I just powdered the seeds and then soaked in enough alcohol to cover them and a bit more, maybe 50ml or less. I let that sit for a day or 2 and agitate it and smush it with the handle end of a stainless steel butter knife to get the goods out.
I then filter it through a piece of paper towel into a flat dish. I do this 3-5 times (waiting 24- hours between pulls and until the alcohol is clear and no more goodies left in the seed pulp) and let air dry in a cabinet. I have done this before with both the root bark and seeds, and had an incredible experience.
This is only the second time I have tried the STB tek. I have done DMT only a few other times after my last tek. I was so scared of what it could do I let it sit for a year and it became weaker. I have tried this fresh yellow and it is VERY VERY strong. I will be taking the oral dose tomorrow night with a good friend of mine. I am thinking around 50mg or so should be good to start with since this spice is so strong. (or I am very sensitive to it)
So in all I would say I have done the DMT/pharmahuasca trip(s) about 8 times now, and keep going a little further at a time.
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: davey1]
#15917758 - 03/08/12 06:28 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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davey1 said:
Here's a pic of pull #2. Last night I posted pull #1 and did 5-6 very good agitations with the jar in a pail of very warm water inbetween the agitations. I then let it sit for ~20 minutes and did pull #2. I pulled about 80% of the naphtha and collected it into two jars and here are the results today after about 22 hours in the freezer:
Pretty bad picture for detail but as you can see, a lot more spice! Pretty good for a fairly rapid second pull I must say! Currently working on agitations and warm water for a 3rd pull tonight!
that looks so yummy! did you use distilled water or tap?
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that looks so yummy! did you use distilled water or tap?
Distilled.
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tyrannicalrex said:This is only the second time I have tried the STB tek. I have done DMT only a few other times after my last tek. I was so scared of what it could do I let it sit for a year and it became weaker. I have tried this fresh yellow and it is VERY VERY strong. I will be taking the oral dose tomorrow night with a good friend of mine. I am thinking around 50mg or so should be good to start with since this spice is so strong. (or I am very sensitive to it)
I don't fully understand that type of fear when approaching DMT, personally. I mean yeah, I was pretty damn nervous before I smoked it the first time, but it only took a couple of minutes before I decided to just go for it. I think the two facts that are the most comforting are that it only lasts 10-15 minutes and that there is no hangover.
I wonder why Tiny Pic deleted my photo I uploaded last night? I have never seen them do that so fast.
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: davey1]
#15918343 - 03/08/12 10:10 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Is it possible for freezers to be too cold?
Mines -14 F and every now and then one of my jars wont percipitate properly its gets a lil cloudy then all the goods goo up all long the bottom just barely floating...ill try to take a pic its weird..
When you open the jar is almost looks like a bunch of dense powder floating around all along the bottom.
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I don't think it's possible to be too cold, no.
BTW my 3rd pull looked pitiful after 18 hours in the freezer so I pulled it. I'm talking hardly any crystals, maybe 25mg of spice (no joke!).
I don't know if I'm rushing things too fast or what. It doesn't bother me, because I have more than enough spice; more than I know what to do with. But it does spark my curiosity.
I decided to dump the naphtha and put some fresh naphtha into my jar. Currently in my agitation stages before making a pull. If I still don't get a good pull result tomorrow now I will just assume that I have already extracted ~90% of what I can from my MHRB powder.
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: davey1]
#15919241 - 03/08/12 02:08 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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so davey, how much in total did u extract yet from your 100g solution?
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SWIM went ahead and tried a freeze precipitate on the tainted naptha, and the result was some fluffy white crystals on top of some sticky, viscous, yellowish-orange goo, even after all the naptha had been dried away. The result of the scrapings looked like previous yields, however with a more reddish brown tint, and some sticky clumps. Is this jungle DMT? Is it just extra plant oils? Is it harmful?
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: homosapien]
#15920877 - 03/08/12 07:24 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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did you not read my advice?
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i would let that sit on top of some water (just pour some fresh water in the jar) that should clean it up.
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: SurReality]
#15920927 - 03/08/12 07:37 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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did you not read my advice?
Apologies, I forgot to thank you for the advice.
SWIM told me that he did try letting it sit on some water, agitating it every so often. He said the water did turn yellow-ish and cloudy, supposedly indicating that junk had leeched into it, yet the naptha largely remained the same dark color even after an hour.
Apparently he went along and placed it in the freezer.
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: homosapien]
#15921197 - 03/08/12 08:24 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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probably should have just let it sit over night... but you can still recrystallize what you got.
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so davey, how much in total did u extract yet from your 100g solution?
I do not know yet. I have not weighed what's been extracted so far yet, and I have not finished extracting.
In the morning I will weigh my extractions (still in my collection jars, just haven't gotten around to scraping them yet) and report back. I am interested to know as well. I would guess that I've got 1.2-1.4 grams but it's too hard to tell before weighing.
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: davey1]
#15922370 - 03/09/12 12:13 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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I'm having a bit of trouble finding suitable MHRB suppliers, can anyone make any recommendations?
Also, is it possible to replace to 100g MHRB with 100g Acacia Confusa Bark (http://psychoactiveherbs.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=24_214)?
Thanks in advance for the help.
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