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 GoldenArrow
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 Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: BirdsIView]
#15727930 - 01/28/12 12:57 AM (3 months, 28 days ago) |
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Thats what I did, I dunno how big these jars in the OP are but the biggest I could find wouldn't hold all the ingredients.
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Okay, so SWIM finally got the money to take a swing at this Tek.
SWIM has run into a problem, but he'll get to that after I'm done explaining what he did.
He used 100mg of MHRB which came shredded in the mail, SWIM then used his hands to break the pieces down a bit more, SWIM wanted the spirits of the plant to feel him long before he felt them. Something tells me he should break it down a little more than SWIM did next time though.
He then added 100g of Rooto 100% Lye to 600mL of water (Distilled, though in quite the ghetto fashion).
He then added the rootbark to a big mason jar which had this basified water in it. He stirred it a bit with a spoon to make sure the bark got in there alright. SWIM then let it sit for 24 hours.
Once that part was done, he added 150mL of Bestine (heptane) to the mixture. He thought if he used Bestine he might get better results, though something tells me he was completely wrong about that because SWIM only got about 150mg of spice from his first pull, and the pictures people show of their pulls using Naphtha seems like a LOT more than he's getting.. but anyways.
Everything was going smoothly, the evaporated-down solvent sitting snuggly in his frigid freezer, surrounded by Obsidian crystals to ward off any negative spirits, Amethyst to assist in its consciousness-shift into crystal form, and 3 pictures of the Sri Yantra which my roommates and I each drew and colored in 
The pulls weren't providing him with too much, but he was okay with that, all that meant was he'd be spending a few days getting all the spice out and that wasn't a problem. But after a day or so of this process, when he went to go check on my mason jar with the rootbark and the bestine in it, the bestine layer was super-super dark. At first he thought maybe it was just LOADED with DMT, it was difficult to tell when SWIM took it out of the jar if it was purple or an orangy yellow. But when he evaporated it down a bit in my flat dish, there was a nasty brown sludge all along the bottom and in the corner was clearly a piece of rootbark.
Now, he feels he's been taking his time with this, and certainly hopes he hasn't disrespected the spirits, we've all been meditating a lot and sending it purifying and crystalizing thoughts throughout the process.
He went ahead and stuck the dish with the nastiness in it just to see what would happen, thought perhaps there would still be some crystals which could separate from the nastiness and be salvaged at least or something.
What exactly was the problem do you think? He wasn't as gentle with the mixture as perhaps he could have been, but he never shook it terribly hard. At worst it was inverted rather quickly, and swished around in a rather quick manner, but he didn't feel he abused it.
Also, he has the jar sitting over an electric heater, so it gets quite warm and the emulsions (those are the tiny purple bubbles that float to the surface, pop, and then fall back into the basified solution at the bottom, right?) clear quite easily, and it hasn't seemed to "infect" my solvent like it appears to have done so this time.
I don't think the solution is completely ruined just yet, but after several days of it sitting there it had not cleared a bit, still just as dark purple. SWIM is hesitant to wash the solution, he's read some horror stories. Could he perhaps scrape all the crystals and the nasty brown gunk together and then recrystalize it all? Would that save this batch, and is there any hope for the solution still sitting in the jar?
Maybe he didn't add enough lye to the water, and the way he distilled was to cap my pots and then pouring off the water on the caps into a new jar. He has since gone out and bought distilled water for future attempts. Part of him wanted to distill his own, to perhaps appease the spirits with labor, but upon learning how difficult it was to fashion a proper distillery, it was decided it wasn't as big a deal.
Help.. PLEASE!
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Edited by Swift_Water (01/28/12 08:48 AM)
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It may also be worth mentioning that when SWIM put the bestine into the dish there was absolutely no visible contaminate whatsoever. SWIM also took the crystals from my first couple of successful pulls and smoked them, there was a little bit of yellow gunk but SWIM just rolled the white crystals around it and packed it up and smoked it.
SWIM was swallowed whole by a feminine presence, transmuted into gold in her womb, and then was reborn into his body. SWIM doesn't know if that was a breakthrough experience or not, but it was most definitely the most intense thing he's ever been through. SWIM was almost ashamed that he was so pleased to finally be done with it when he noticed he was finally coming back, but he remembers feeling a sincere laughter coming from the feminine presence at the idea that he was both grateful for the gift and relieved that it had run its course and he had passed her test. SWIM is most definitely excited to return to her and to perhaps inquire as to her nature or her relationship with SWIM.
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 BirdsIView
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Thats what I did, I dunno how big these jars in the OP are but the biggest I could find wouldn't hold all the ingredients.
And so to confirm, you had no problems at all? I don't see what would cause any if the same ratio is kept but I'm hesitant to differentiate in any way from the original tek.
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: BirdsIView]
#15729267 - 01/28/12 12:05 PM (3 months, 27 days ago) |
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BirdsIView said:
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GoldenArrow said:
Thats what I did, I dunno how big these jars in the OP are but the biggest I could find wouldn't hold all the ingredients.
And so to confirm, you had no problems at all? I don't see what would cause any if the same ratio is kept but I'm hesitant to differentiate in any way from the original tek.
This is a really hard extraction to fuck up lol. Going a little different from the ratios isn't going to hurt much especially if it's just the water or naphtha. Or if you mean cutting the whole ration in half to fit in a smaller jar or something like that? That would be fine.
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Re: STB tek and pictorial - UPDATED [Re: Nature Boy]
#15732945 - 01/29/12 08:58 AM (3 months, 26 days ago) |
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Some questions because this is all quite interesting:
1. Someone in this thread mentioned that caustic water can cause cracks within glass jars (is that a common occurrence?) Do people who do this have a preferred type/brand of jar, or something? This seems an important question, because it would be rather unfortunate to have a lye-spill. Safety should be key in these sorts of inadvisable activities.
2. Someone on another message board is quite opposed to the notion of extracting these compounds by yourself (as he should be, of course) stating that any potential consumption of a self-extracted compound is either dangerous, or simply much less effective in their potentiality for whatever they may or may not be used for, than more sophisticated methods of compound extraction.
3. It's also been said that, sometimes, extracting these compounds could inadvertently result in the production of PCP. Is this untrue? Because one cannot imagine one would want to produce an awful, dangerous and illicit substance such as that. Who the hell would?
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Re: STB tek and pictorial - UPDATED [Re: AlephMemShin]
#15733207 - 01/29/12 10:36 AM (3 months, 26 days ago) |
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1. I've never had a jar crack on me. I use old pickle jars with the ratio of 750:50:50:200 (water:lye:mhrb:naphtha). Just remember to add the lye to the water, and slowly, dissolving it a little at a time.
2. If you know what you're trying to get, the final product is in no way harmful, and if you accidently pulled some of the lye-bark-water, well, you would know. With a little research, I have no doubt in my mind that a 12 year old could do this.
3. PCP? No.
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BirdsIView
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I'm thinking I might have an emulsion on my hands.
I split the process into two jars keeping the same ratios and one jar after about 24 hrs has the right looking color (yellowish) but the other is very dark with hardly a distinguishable line between the lye/water solution and the naphtha.
Would this be considered an emulsion?
Here's a crappy picture to give more of an idea...
http://i.imgur.com/ctOdO.jpg
Edited by BirdsIView (02/04/12 03:22 PM)
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Re: STB tek and pictorial - UPDATED [Re: BirdsIView]
#15761327 - 02/04/12 04:40 PM (3 months, 20 days ago) |
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All I can say is freeze precip both in separate jars and post the results of the two final products. The one on the right looks perfect, but ive never seen the naphtha get that dark before and stay that dark after its settled. I've had some be really cloudy and white instead of yellow on the first pull, but that's about it.. Those pulls give pure white crystals. 
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BirdsIView
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I don't even know if I should go ahead and freeze precip that dark one, it just doesn't look right at all. Should I add salt and treat it as an emulsion? That's the only thing I can think it could be.
Edited by BirdsIView (02/05/12 11:32 AM)
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Re: STB tek and pictorial - UPDATED [Re: BirdsIView]
#15816460 - 02/15/12 10:21 PM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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Hello again. I am on my second try here. I found this in my cabinet. Followed the tek to a T (well, used 700ml of distilled water).I found this today. I take my time and have been waiting a couple of days for each step instead of a few hours.
Here is the first pull about to happen. Used one of those glass vinegar bottles. Looks pretty no? I will post more in the next few days. I got about 2.5g on my last try. Used powdered bark too with no problems. 
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Looks perfect, how many grams of bark are in there?
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Dosile Kouki
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looks like your in for a decent yield dude
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psyke101
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...I got about 2.5g on my last try. Used powdered bark too with no problems.
How much bark did you use to get a 2.5g yield Tyrannical?
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Re: STB tek and pictorial - UPDATED [Re: AlephMemShin]
#15816556 - 02/15/12 10:42 PM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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AlephMemShin said:
Some questions because this is all quite interesting:
2. Someone on another message board is quite opposed to the notion of extracting these compounds by yourself (as he should be, of course) stating that any potential consumption of a self-extracted compound is either dangerous, or simply much less effective in their potentiality for whatever they may or may not be used for, than more sophisticated methods of compound extraction.
An extraction, especially this one, is not at all bad as the other person said. I have no doubt that an experienced psychonaut could not differentiate between deemsters made in a kitchen with kitchenware or made with lab glass and separatory funnels. The basic chemistry does not change.
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Re: STB tek and pictorial - UPDATED [Re: psyke101]
#15816682 - 02/15/12 11:21 PM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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DosileFlynn said:
looks like your in for a decent yield dude
Thanks! It certainly does!
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...I got about 2.5g on my last try. Used powdered bark too with no problems.
How much bark did you use to get a 2.5g yield Tyrannical?
100g. Both times. I am also waiting a couple of days before I do the first pull. Patience is a virtue as far as I am concerned. I have nothing but time when It comes to this. I started it on Saturday. Let it soak 48 hours before I added the naphtha. I added the naphtha on Monday. I will do a pull tomorrow night. Let it precip for 24 hours. 
I got 5 pulls from the last batch before I gave up. I may see how far I can get this one to go. I was pulling nice yellow fluff on the last pull form the last batch. I made some changa with Damianna. I will be using a "Peace Pipe Blend" smoking blend for my changa this time. I also have some wild passion flower that I am going to make a separate batch with to see if there is a diff. 
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Looks perfect, how many grams of bark are in there?
100g 
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dude 2.5g from 100g is fairly impressive, are you sure it was 100g?
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psyke101
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100g. Both times.
100g gave you 2.5g yield???? WTF?
Man what am I doing wrong? I got 500mg from 50g shredded bark.
So you used 100g powdered bark to get that yield right?
How clean is your product? Are you doing a sodium carbonate wash to get all the fats and crap out?
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Re: STB tek and pictorial - UPDATED [Re: psyke101]
#15816791 - 02/15/12 11:57 PM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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DosileFlynn said:
dude 2.5g from 100g is fairly impressive, are you sure it was 100g?
Weighed on a decent digi. It was closer to about 2.2 or so. Still an incredible yield from what I have read.
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tyrannicalrex said:
100g. Both times.
100g gave you 2.5g yield???? WTF?
Man what am I doing wrong? I got 500mg from 50g shredded bark.
So you used 100g powdered bark to get that yield right?
How clean is your product? Are you doing a sodium carbonate wash to get all the fats and crap out?
I do not "clean" it like the Bestine wash tek says. Although I did do that with some of it. I used the full spectrum yellow stuff to make the changa. My first pull from the first batch had some snow white crystals in addition to the yellow stuff. Like NB said, it is very good this way (uncleaned), I think it is a matter of personal taste. I read somewhere that the first time McKenna tried it was a yellow waxy substance. Here are pics from my first (very first time ever in my life) extraction using this tek. I am using th half pint jar method as listed in the original tek first page this time.
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