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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: suburbanned]
    #10365333 - 05/19/09 07:01 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: OverdoseLiving]
    #10365377 - 05/19/09 07:11 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

I have gotton a thin emulsion layer every time by the second pull. I just work around it. It hasnt got in the way at all. I understand that you dont want the emulsion, I wouldnt go through much hassle if any to get rid of a thin layer of it because it doesnt cause ant problems. I'm pulling just fine with it.

As to where your 150ml of urine yellow Naphtha and where that went, ?


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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Ice House Shaman]
    #10365739 - 05/19/09 08:22 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

In the case of an emulsion, don't just pull the emulsion layer along with the naptha. Add more base (NaOH) and let the jar sit still for a while and separate. You might need to add some heat, but emulsions are fairly easy to take care of.


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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Zippy]
    #10366108 - 05/19/09 09:42 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

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Add more base (NaOH) and let the jar sit still for a while and separate.




Anything that makes the water more ionic ought to help.  Add base as Zippy suggested, or even table salt.  Each has reportedly been used successfully to break emulsions.

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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: HappyCamper15]
    #10366230 - 05/19/09 09:56 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

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Finally a little bit of spice! Its a little orangish/yellowish but that wont bother me one bit.





Hmmm...I wonder if the source/supplier of the MHRB  greatly affects the color, consistency, or molecular makeup of the product?  I've consistently used only one supplier, and I bought in bulk.

I might try sampling other suppliers in small amounts to see what's what.  I once considered asking people to PM me (PM's ONLY...remember the forum rules!) with their supplier or source as well as a description of the resultant product, but on further consideration, realized the futility.  Too many variables in technique, and no accurate way to quantify yield.  And people's descriptions of the characteristics of the powder (fluffy, granular, white, pale yellow, yellow) would be too subjective, as would their reports on the effects.

Oh, well.  Guess I'll have to buy from a bunch of sources and test it myself if I'm that curious.

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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Nature Boy]
    #10366743 - 05/19/09 11:09 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

Ok so I'm planning on using the freeze precipitation method but my freezer can only go to -3 fahrenheit. Would this be good enough?


EDIT: Just read the whole topic and was just wondering what everyone had set their freezer to for the freeze precip part?


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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Zippy]
    #10366757 - 05/19/09 11:12 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

I dont pull the emulsion layer with the Naphtha, I pull the Naphtha layer and leave the emulsion layer behind. I've never tried to remove it cause its never been in the way. I'll try getting rid of it next time. The emulsion layers I have gotten have been very thin. IMO They have no impact on the ammount of spice in each pull.


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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: HappyCamper15]
    #10367284 - 05/20/09 01:07 AM (4 years, 3 days ago)

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    #10367557 - 05/20/09 02:20 AM (4 years, 2 days ago)

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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: OverdoseLiving]
    #10369319 - 05/20/09 01:55 PM (4 years, 2 days ago)

I am also having emulsion problems. I ended up pulling all of the emulsion layer out and stuck that in the freezer, and then I put new naphtha in for another pull.

When I freeze precipitate the emulsion will I be able to use warm naphtha to dissolve the dmt and then freeze precipitate that for clean crystals?


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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: pazzy]
    #10369868 - 05/20/09 03:45 PM (4 years, 2 days ago)

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I am also having emulsion problems. I ended up pulling all of the emulsion layer out and stuck that in the freezer, and then I put new naphtha in for another pull.

When I freeze precipitate the emulsion will I be able to use warm naphtha to dissolve the dmt and then freeze precipitate that for clean crystals?




You may get a tiny tiny bit, but I don't think it's worth the effort. An emulsion is just a mix of the two chemicals. I can't think of any circumstance under which it would be beneficial to pull the emulsion layer. Add more base to increase the pH or add heat to the total solution and the emulsion should clear if you let it sit for a couple hours.


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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Zippy]
    #10370166 - 05/20/09 04:56 PM (4 years, 2 days ago)

edit- added iso-alcohol and it separated quickly.


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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Ice House Shaman]
    #10372106 - 05/20/09 10:17 PM (4 years, 2 days ago)

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I have been leaving it in the freezer about 12 hours. I have been leaving it in the base solution about 8hrs.

I'm sure I have been leaving it in the base solution too long. I am gonna do a 100g 1st pull tonight with a :30 min naphtha exposure to the base. I'll soak the mhrb for about an hour. My mhrb is completely powdered. As was stated above yellow Naphtha = yellow spice. It smokes just fine, its potent stuff. I just want to do a little experimenting.




So how'd the experimenting go? I'm very curious about your 30 minute exposure, thanks!


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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: dwpineal]
    #10375205 - 05/21/09 11:29 AM (4 years, 1 day ago)

HOODBRAN!

Thank you so much!

I got another 2oz of powder in and decide to go your route.
750ml water, 50g lye, 50g MHRB, 150 ml naptha
Pulled when still clear only the tiniest tiniest hint of yellow, but looked clear!

and look what I got!


How many doses or how much weight do you think is there? My mg scale comes in next week.


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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: HappyCamper15]
    #10375706 - 05/21/09 01:21 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

How long after putting in the naphtha did you remove it from the base solution? Did you mix and let separate 3 times and then remove the naphtha? How long did that take is what I'm asking :smile:

Looks like great work and nice white crystals!

I'd guess you have about .3 -.7g but it is hard to tell since I don't know the size of your glass...


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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: dwpineal]
    #10375743 - 05/21/09 01:27 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

Thanks! This is a 1/2 pint jar.

I would say it was mixing for maybe around an hour. I have it a real nice hot water bath before mixing it several times, allowing it to separate between time.


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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: HappyCamper15]
    #10375755 - 05/21/09 01:30 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: HappyCamper15]
    #10376289 - 05/21/09 03:18 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

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... look what I got!



How many doses or how much weight do you think is there? My mg scale comes in next week.




WOWOWOWEEE!

That looks nice my friend, looks to be over a gram, I'd say a very good few doses, here's what I use per dose:

- dunno maybe you have 20, 30+ :cool:

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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: hoodbran]
    #10376321 - 05/21/09 03:24 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

Thank you. Not bad for $9.90 worth of powdered eBay MHRB!
Second pull is in the freezer as we speak!
I think I will wait until I get my scale before I try any of it (if I can keep my hands off). I want to know how much I have total!

I will be sharing this with my friends and family. :smile: Cant wait!


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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: HappyCamper15]
    #10377203 - 05/21/09 05:57 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

Nice job.  First estimate is much closer.  IMHO that is .5 to .75 grams.  Enjoy.  Be careful.  Stay well.

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