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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: AmericanPsycho]
    #10353876 - 05/17/09 05:05 PM (4 years, 2 days ago)

i think my friend is getting close :vaped:


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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: suburbanned]
    #10354231 - 05/17/09 06:22 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

I promised a few photos. I have been working on a lb of mhrb over the past couple of days. These are just some generic pics of how things have been turning out. I have done A/B extractions before I saw NBs STB post and I was low on spice. Well needless to say I am not any more. Enjoy the pics.

I am using a half gallon, wide mouth Mason jar. The extraction ammount was 100g. I followed NB's instructions, EXACTLY! 

Here is what my naptha looked like before going into the freezer. Notice 125 ml in the jar. 25 ml was left in the base liquid for later use.

First pull pics

Second pull pics

Spice close up pics.

Easy tek I do reccomend it to anyone. The spice smokes nice and clean. I had no troubles breaking through first big rip. I use a meth pipe.


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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Ice House Shaman]
    #10354316 - 05/17/09 06:34 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

Sweet!  :congrats:

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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Nature Boy]
    #10354373 - 05/17/09 06:43 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

I thought the first pull yield was great the second not bad considering I did pour the cold Naphtha from the first pull right into the base solution. In other words I didn't warm the Naphtha up for the second pull. I am doing a third pull with this 100g. I have two more 100g first pulls in the freezer as we speak I'll get a couple more pics posted in the coming days. I am not in a hurry for the spice so The next couple of extractions/pulls are going to have the Naphtha slightly evaped warmed and the I am going to leave them in the freezer a bit longer and squeeze every bit I can out with each pull. Being in a hurry to smoke something/anything is what tends to fuk things up for people.


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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Ice House Shaman]
    #10355124 - 05/17/09 09:20 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

my friend said he tried to freeze percip and had a bunch of white spots on teh bottom of the jar but he tryed to pour his naphtha back into the jar and all the crystals went with it?  let it warm back up and soak for a good 2 hours and now he is about to evap about half of the naphtha out before trying to freeze percip.  he used about 60 grams of pre-powdered bark, 355 ml water, 8 tea and about 80 ml naptha, he's hoping to get it down to about 40 ml and then freeze precip and hope it starts snowing.. again? he is thinking of adding a bit more lye to the mix to basify it a little more seeing as he only used 8 teaspoons (which by his calculations should equal roughly 80 grams lye by his measurements using lye's density of 2.1 g/cm^3).  any suggestions?


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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: suburbanned]
    #10355425 - 05/17/09 10:25 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

Any tricks to make the naptha turn yellow. I have tried shaking but it is still clear. Should I let it sit another day or give it a warm water bath?


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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: pazzy]
    #10355600 - 05/17/09 11:03 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

if you pull yellow naphtha you will pull yellow crystals, if you pull clearn naphtha you will pull white crystals.  if your NP is mixed in a properly basified polar mix, you aren't going to gain anything by waiting another day if you have waited sufficient time already (some say as little as 20 minutes, others say a few hours).


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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Nature Boy]
    #10356578 - 05/18/09 03:07 AM (4 years, 1 day ago)

I still need to know where to get the metal turkey baster


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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: AmericanPsycho]
    #10356757 - 05/18/09 04:34 AM (4 years, 1 day ago)

My friends tell me that they learned its best to let the naptha sit in the base solution for three hours atleast, and then allow plenty of time to freeze precip, like atleast 5 hours...
On the third pull the naptha sat in over night then freeze preciped  for 5 hours. Much more xtals where received than first and second pulls. 

BE PATIENT and it will pay off, with less work.


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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: suburbanned]
    #10357102 - 05/18/09 06:50 AM (4 years, 1 day ago)

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if you pull yellow naphtha you will pull yellow crystals, if you pull clearn naphtha you will pull white crystals.




NO!!!!!  The above quote is very, very wrong.  The naptha MUST be yellow for any product whatsoever.  Clear naptha = NOTHING!!!

Here's how it works: The first few pulls (from yellow) naptha will give you pale off-white crystals.  The n,n,DMT comes off more easily and first.

Later pulls (once the n,n,DMT in the basified water begins to become exhausted) pulls the last of the n,n,DMT plus other (quite active) molecules and the product becomes increasingly "tainted" with a more yellow final product - which will still kick your ass.  At ALL TIMES the naptha must be yellow or you get NOTHING AT ALL!

If you are so hell-bent on "white" DMT, simply combine your first 2 pulls, and keep them separate and apart from later pulls.  Believe me, I've done this, and kept the later "pure yellow" powder. I assure you, that yellow product which everyone seems to treat with disdain is VERY active!

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if your NP is mixed in a properly basified polar mix, you aren't going to gain anything by waiting another day if you have waited sufficient time already (some say as little as 20 minutes, others say a few hours).




Very, very misleading at best. 20 minutes????  Even a "few hours" is rubbish!  For the last time...you rush the naptha soak, then you are putting your yield at risk and wasting your time and resources.  The naptha pull is where you gain the spice, people!  Everything else you do is simply leading up to that point!

Patience is rewarded.  Rush = failure and frustration.

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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Nature Boy]
    #10357110 - 05/18/09 06:55 AM (4 years, 1 day ago)

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^^^ thats hella cool...
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AmericanPsycho said:
I want to see the beings god damn it :mad2:





I saw a juggler moving hecka fast.





like a little elf/midget juggaling something?




I tried to avoid reading about those beings and the DMT experience in general, just so my experience could be all mine and not pre fabricated you know?

But when I smoked a couple good sized, but nervous hits and I got some really intense visuals and heavy undulating patterns on the wall that kinda lit up... I didnt black out or anything, in fact I was still able to talk and felt pretty there, but with a blanket over my face LoL... literally.

But when I was coming down and started to feel not that high I closed my eyes and I just saw this small black jester like tossing some triangular thing back and forth betweeen his hands and kinda jumping side to side hella fast.

Yeah my first two pulls where I basically completed everything in 9 hours wasnt very succesful..

After I got a litte bit I chilled out and waited like 15 hours and it worked alot better on the 2nd or 3rd pull..


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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: OverdoseLiving]
    #10357114 - 05/18/09 06:57 AM (4 years, 1 day ago)

Anyone have a picture of a gram of spice, with something for scale?


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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: OverdoseLiving]
    #10357393 - 05/18/09 09:21 AM (4 years, 1 day ago)

Here's a pic of .9 gram - the scale says wrong as I weighed a coin too, thats until i found to weigh a playing card, tare the scale to that and add the spice :thumbup:



I just took this pic a second ago to check (same coin):



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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: hoodbran]
    #10357396 - 05/18/09 09:25 AM (4 years, 1 day ago)

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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: OverdoseLiving]
    #10357761 - 05/18/09 11:45 AM (4 years, 1 day ago)

I have been leaving it in the freezer about 12 hours. I have been leaving it in the base solution about 8hrs.

I'm sure I have been leaving it in the base solution too long. I am gonna do a 100g 1st pull tonight with a :30 min naphtha exposure to the base. I'll soak the mhrb for about an hour. My mhrb is completely powdered. As was stated above yellow Naphtha = yellow spice. It smokes just fine, its potent stuff. I just want to do a little experimenting.


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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Ice House Shaman]
    #10357984 - 05/18/09 12:55 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

Well I havent had the best of luck doing my first extraction attempt.
Please dont tear me apart here, I know I have messed up a bit.

I started with 300ml of water in a pint mason jar. Slowly added 50g of lye. Was very hot! Added 50g of powdered MHRB while the solution was still quite warm.
Was this a mistake? SHould I have waited for it to cool to room temp?


I let that sit for several hours so it could break the cell walls. I then added 100ml of naphtha. Turned it over and over several time for about five to ten minutes, then let it settle. The black gunk was very very thick and stuck to the walls of the jar making it difficult to see into the jar. I think it is because I didnt use enough water(next time I will be using 750ml, not 300). Repeated this step twice more, and let it sit for a couple hours. Pulled about half of the yellow tinted naphtha off and put in a 1/2 pint jar in a deep-freeze for about 24 hours.

First pull I didnt get that much spice, and forgot to take pictures. I did try smoking what I did get and now I cant wait for a full dose.
Whoever said it has a "new shoe smell" is quite correct!

Well after putting the naptha back in the gunk jar I noticed that it was almost orange! Even red almost! Didnt like the look of this. I poured off what naptha I could and added about 100ml of new naptha.

Did the same procedure, and it was quite yellow when pulling it.
I am using a meat flavor injector as a syringe to do the pulls.

Here is what I got from the new batch. This doesnt look right, does it! What is it?


Same jar about 15 mins under a fan? WTF is this?



Here is my jar


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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: HappyCamper15]
    #10358844 - 05/18/09 04:14 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

By the looks of it you had a thin emulsion layer and you pulled that off with the naptha. IMO anyone else?

If thats the case it is correctable.


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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Ice House Shaman]
    #10358865 - 05/18/09 04:20 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

I would just dissolve that gunk back into like 40 ml of naptha maybe 50 if it is too saturated at 40 then try and freezing it again hela cold for atleast 12 hours, or even 24...

Then pour all the naptha outa the jar and then fan dry it...

What kinda naptha are you using by the way?

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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: HappyCamper15]
    #10359027 - 05/18/09 04:52 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

Thanks for the responses.

I am using Ace Hardware VM&P Naphtha.


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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: AmericanPsycho]
    #10359045 - 05/18/09 04:56 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

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I still need to know where to get the metal turkey baster




Bed Bath & Beyond is where I got mine and it is identical to the one pictured...


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