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Nature Boy said:
Put the 1/2 pint jar aside to allow the crystals to COMPLETELY dry. A nice dark, warm dry place where air is free to circulate is just fine. It'll look like this:
How long does that take?
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depends on how much naptha you are evaping, but if you put a fan on it, a few hours tops
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 Re: STB tek and pictorial  [Re: tektonic]
#10322507 - 05/11/09 03:29 PM (4 years, 7 days ago) |
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hey N.B thanks for the reply just a couple of questions i got before i do this, Ive got a big 3L glass jar/jug type thing with a seal-able lid. I'm planning to use 750ml water 50g lye and 50g mhrb and a glass tray for evaporation. Gonna leave the lye naphtha and water for 24hrs this time stirring every so often you think these measurements should be ok? I'm just paranoid now after the last pull i got nothing 
forgot aswell can i just use normal tap water for this?
thanks again man
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: dave8618]
#10322895 - 05/11/09 05:13 PM (4 years, 7 days ago) |
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You can use regular tap water. Your measurements are fine, exactly as I use..
You wrote Quote:
Gonna leave the lye naphtha and water for 24hrs this time stirring every so often
Hmmmn..
You should make up the basified water/lye (caustic soda) mixture up first, then add the root bark mix it very well! - you may leave this to sit for 24 hours, but it's way too long IMHO - I leave it for about 4 hours and then add 150ml of naptha (zippo fluid) - mix that about for like ten minutes Gently, wait for it to separate, do this three times. On the third separation, draw the naptha and freeze that, wait for spice...
That is this tek in a nutshell
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Quote:
AmericanPsycho said:
Quote:
Nature Boy said:
Put the 1/2 pint jar aside to allow the crystals to COMPLETELY dry. A nice dark, warm dry place where air is free to circulate is just fine. It'll look like this:
How long does that take?
IME anywhere between 5-10 hours from start to finish
the colder your freezer the faster the precipitation, STB is about freeze precipitation of DMT, not evaporation as you can reuse the nps (naptha) for more extractions if you cover it well while in the freezer so it does not evap - just pour it off after your glass pan has a nice collection of beautiful DMT on the bottom 
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: hoodbran]
#10323010 - 05/11/09 05:45 PM (4 years, 7 days ago) |
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Quote:
hoodbran said:
You can use regular tap water. Your measurements are fine, exactly as I use..
You wrote Quote:
Gonna leave the lye naphtha and water for 24hrs this time stirring every so often
Hmmmn..
You should make up the basified water/lye (caustic soda) mixture up first, then add the root bark mix it very well! - you may leave this to sit for 24 hours, but it's way too long IMHO - I leave it for about 4 hours and then add 150ml of naptha (zippo fluid) - mix that about for like ten minutes Gently, wait for it to separate, do this three times. On the third separation, draw the naptha and freeze that, wait for spice...
That is this tek in a nutshell
I thought 24hrs might be a bit OTT, last time left it for about an hour or so but only mixed it up once, when i took it back out it the naphtha was still clear, anywya im starting tomorrow morning so ill letyou know how i get on, thanks btw with out places like this i wouldnt even have a clue where to start
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: dave8618]
#10323108 - 05/11/09 06:02 PM (4 years, 7 days ago) |
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anytime! - there's usually folk around here that can help:)
make sure when you have mixed the lye/water and added the mimosa, let that sit for 4 hours or more so the lye water can break down the root bark, THEN when you add the naptha, you mix it slowly and gently, use a potato masher (a metal one) - the pound (dollar) shops sell them, wilkinsons do too! - with up and down motions, you need to get the dmt molecules to become attached to the naptha molecules, this is a MUST in order to do a pull successfully.
I find that when I use my metal potato masher I can tell it's mixed well when I can see no oil residue on the plate of the masher when it comes on the "up" motion.
You do this mixing of the naptha/lye+water layers three times (or more, three works well and is sufficient) for ten mins each after each cycle it must separate. on the third separation, thats when you do the pull. Dont freeze your pulled naptha yet, put a lid on it or cling film if using a glass pan and add more fresh naptha to your mh/lye+water mix (another 150ml) - do the above mix operation again, takes about an hour to mix the naptha three times, combine the first pull with the second and freeze that.
Good Luck! - Don't pull any of the dark layer off.
You ideally need something like this to pull the naptha off (30cc+ rubberless glass)
Plastic syringes can rot and splash shit all over the place, including a very dangerous mix of NaOh causing nasty ass burns.
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Edited by TerryTibbs (05/11/09 06:17 PM)
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HappyCamper15 said:
Please post your results Hobbs. I am quite interested, for I want to start off using 50g instead of 100 in case of error.
Plus, I think that 50g of rootbark will undoubtedly yield enough for me and a couple friends to lift off, correct?
Jar of Naphtha has been sitting in the freezer for 8 or so hours, and there's about as many crystals floating around as the last 3 pics of the OP, I imagine in the next 16 hours there may be even more. Safe to say 50g MHRB would produce more than enough for you and a couple friends. Can't wait to try this stuff.
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: dave8618]
#10323125 - 05/11/09 06:06 PM (4 years, 7 days ago) |
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Wonderful! Absolutely wonderful! All products are ordered. I think waiting is the hardest part of any TEK!
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Hobbs]
#10323150 - 05/11/09 06:12 PM (4 years, 7 days ago) |
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Good Luck!
And Welcome to the "other world" - be sure to post a trip report 
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I think I am going to have to kick myself off of these forums until my products come in! I just keep sitting here staring at the screen searching/reading everything there is to know about DMT, building up my anticipation even more, knowing reading will do no justice to the actual soon to come experience.
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I know how you feel! 
Well worth the wait and the more you read the less you'll screw it up. I started using this tek a while ago and have always stuck to it and never failed, reading helps alot - go out and get DMT: The Spirit Molecule by Rick Strassman if you haven't yet.
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: hoodbran]
#10323283 - 05/11/09 06:40 PM (4 years, 7 days ago) |
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Haha, I have it as a PDF and am currently in the middle of it. Great read!
I noticed that your "recipe" is a little different than Nature Boys. Do you have any suggestions for doing a 50 gram extraction?
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It's a great book indeed.
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I noticed that your "recipe" is a little different than Nature Boys.
That's interesting! as my "recipe" stems from the noman's tek... but we all have our own ways:)
I did a 50 gram extraction 1st time round with NB's posting of this tek and got .9g of DMT..
as this tek and per above;
50g mhrb
50g lye/caustic soda
750ml water
150ml naptha
- in a 1 liter jar you have room to mix this about (the naptha added), encouraging you not to shake the bejesus out of it causing an emulsion and you burns...
Oh and a Cold Freezer
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Understood. Thanks so much hoodbran! Truly appreciate your help! I will certainly be documenting and reporting the entire process as well as the results, and a trip report hopefully!
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is the freezing really necesary?
or could i just let the naptha evap off?
i don't really get the purpose of the freeze step
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: eritas]
#10323535 - 05/11/09 07:42 PM (4 years, 7 days ago) |
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The freezing creates cleaner crystals. One can evaporate the naphtha without freezing but the result will be very yellow crystals. Using the freeze method, one gets crystals that are just slightly yellow. Plus, it is better for the environment if you reuse the naphtha rather than evaporating off a bunch of it.
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Quote:
eritas said:
is the freezing really necesary?
or could i just let the naptha evap off?
i don't really get the purpose of the freeze step
Quote:
RFengineer said:
The freezing creates cleaner crystals. One can evaporate the naphtha without freezing but the result will be very yellow crystals. Using the freeze method, one gets crystals that are just slightly yellow. Plus, it is better for the environment if you reuse the naphtha rather than evaporating off a bunch of it.
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: hoodbran]
#10324010 - 05/11/09 09:49 PM (4 years, 7 days ago) |
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Quick question
Using this tek, I usually do 4 or 5 pulls per jar (or keep going until the yields aren't worth the work). By the 5th pull, my product gets significantly more yellow than on the first few... which are usually fairly white.
A few experiments this weekend determined that the whiter crystals I obtained were more potent (pure) than the yellow ones. I know there's a lot of debate whether color can really be a determinate of purity, but my question is basically what can I do to increase purity of already pulled crystals?
Simple ammonia wash didn't produce much difference... I was wondering if anyone had better techniques for getting purer spice.
TIA,
Zippy
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Zippy]
#10324041 - 05/11/09 09:56 PM (4 years, 7 days ago) |
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Ah ya got me there Zippy! - I don't go as far as I should with my pulls, 3 is my maximum and I've never cleaned or recrystallized but I have made DMT Fumarate (FASA) - the off white powder converted into an orangey salt after rapid crystal formation in dry acetone.
time is important me thinks, enough to allow the lye to breakdown the root bark but not too much so you get jungle spice..
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