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 OverdoseLiving
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 Re: STB tek and pictorial  [Re: Nature Boy]
#10313469 - 05/09/09 06:06 PM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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When the bowl was about to be smoked the maority of spice fell out of it. There is 50 mg or so left. Im not positive its DMT though, upon tasting a small bit it burnt my tongue a bt like when you eat an ant and had a slight salty taste.... The salty taste tels me some reaction took place, but im not sure if its the one I wanted....
The thing that boggle me is I dont even remember the procedure thatwas used to create those crystals! my friends where just playing around in ait of the pure lye wth naoh KOH solutions and naptha....
Well people need to go find a plae to live, trip report(hopefully) later!
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 Zippy
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OverdoseLiving said:
When the bowl was about to be smoked the maority of spice fell out of it. There is 50 mg or so left. Im not positive its DMT though, upon tasting a small bit it burnt my tongue a bt like when you eat an ant and had a slight salty taste.... The salty taste tels me some reaction took place, but im not sure if its the one I wanted....
The thing that boggle me is I dont even remember the procedure thatwas used to create those crystals! my friends where just playing around in ait of the pure lye wth naoh KOH solutions and naptha....
Well people need to go find a plae to live, trip report(hopefully) later!
Don't smoke that. Seriously.
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Zippy]
#10315585 - 05/10/09 03:20 AM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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Yeah, fuck theyll just wait for the lye
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Nature Boy]
#10315891 - 05/10/09 06:26 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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I just have a few questions. What type of electronic devices can we put it on to heat the jar to 80 - 85 degrees? On top of a fridge?
Is it a bad idea to heat the 1qt jar on a electric stove instead?
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Nature Boy
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AmericanPsycho said:
I just have a few questions. What type of electronic devices can we put it on to heat the jar to 80 - 85 degrees? On top of a fridge?
Is it a bad idea to heat the 1qt jar on a electric stove instead?
Do you have a cable box, furnace room, hot water heater, computer, fridge, that sort of thing to put it near or on?? Warm, not hot.
An electric stove would be far too much heat and monitoring. Keep it passive and simple, and you'll have no worries.
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Nature Boy]
#10315991 - 05/10/09 08:06 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Nature Boy said:
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AmericanPsycho said:
I just have a few questions. What type of electronic devices can we put it on to heat the jar to 80 - 85 degrees? On top of a fridge?
Is it a bad idea to heat the 1qt jar on a electric stove instead?
Do you have a cable box, furnace room, hot water heater, computer, fridge, that sort of thing to put it near or on?? Warm, not hot.
An electric stove would be far too much heat and monitoring. Keep it passive and simple, and you'll have no worries.
N.B.
I have a cable box, computer, and fridge. But yeah I think the cable box is the warmest thing.
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Nature Boy]
#10315992 - 05/10/09 08:07 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Do they sell the Lye at ACE hardware also?
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dave8618
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hey guys nice tek have had a read through it today and getting ready to get some supplies.
I tried my first extraction last week but it failed i think it was because of the naphtha being clear still so this time I'm gonna leave it for 24hrs.
Just to check with this tek do you need to use a freeze parcip or can just normally evaporating it work? I'm gonna having trouble finding a freezer i can keep it in over night.
Thanks again guys
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: dave8618]
#10316144 - 05/10/09 10:09 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Hey everyone quick question. Yesterday I did my second STB extraction and it's been in the freezer now for about 16 hours. When I pulled it out a little while ago I could see lots of what seemed to be crystals floating in the naptha but barely any are sticking to the glass. Should I just give it more time and see if they stick to the glass?
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: dave8618]
#10316221 - 05/10/09 10:43 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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dave8618 said:
Just to check with this tek do you need to use a freeze parcip or can just normally evaporating it work? I'm gonna having trouble finding a freezer i can keep it in over night.
Sure, you can simply evaporate your naptha, it's just a waste of resources. Make sure it has no residue of its own, first. Test by evaporating a few cc's on a piece of glass or on/in a wide, shallow plate.
Absolutely no residue = 
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Nature Boy]
#10316599 - 05/10/09 12:38 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Hey N.B, great write up but I did have a question. My GF decided to surprise me with some MHRB, but alas she only bought 56g. So I decided to cut the measurements for everything in 1/2, ie 300cc distilled water, 50g NaOH, 50g MHRB.
Who knows if it will produce much but I'll know soon enough, my question is should I also cut the quantity of VM & P in 1/2 (75cc) or would it be acceptable to still use 150cc? I ask for the sake of making it easier to suck out with a turkey baster.
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Hobbs]
#10316700 - 05/10/09 01:07 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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In an ideal world, everything would be scaled down. Can you use a pint jar?
If not, use 100cc naptha, although you may need to evap the volume down (~30 - 50%) prior to the freeze-precipitation step to concentrate the spice enough to get crystals in the naptha when you finally do move on to freeze-precipitation.
I've done that to milk out the last of the spice on a fourth pull, and it works. Clever, no???
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Nature Boy]
#10317535 - 05/10/09 05:15 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Please post your results Hobbs. I am quite interested, for I want to start off using 50g instead of 100 in case of error.
Plus, I think that 50g of rootbark will undoubtedly yield enough for me and a couple friends to lift off, correct?
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Zippy
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Please post your results Hobbs. I am quite interested, for I want to start off using 50g instead of 100 in case of error.
Plus, I think that 50g of rootbark will undoubtedly yield enough for me and a couple friends to lift off, correct?
I did a couple pulls with 50g jars. The only problem I ran into involved getting emulsions (mix of naptha and basified bark solution) from shaking too much. This was easily remedied by adding more base... just something to watch out for.
50g left me half a gram of spice 
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Zippy]
#10317635 - 05/10/09 05:50 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Half a gram sounds like plenty, considering the average dose is what, about 50mg, maybe a little more?
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HappyCamper15 said:
Please post your results Hobbs. I am quite interested, for I want to start off using 50g instead of 100 in case of error.
Plus, I think that 50g of rootbark will undoubtedly yield enough for me and a couple friends to lift off, correct?
Should have the first pull done in around 48 hours, so I'll report back with some results then.
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Great thanks
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Do they sell the Lye at ACE hardware also?
To my surprise they still do. The price is a bit on the upside compared to online. It's 5.99 for a 1/2 lb of Rooto. But seeing as Home Depot nor Lowes carry lye anymore, ace would have to be your best choice. If you REALLY wanted to get it for cheaper, you could check your local farm supply store.
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Xobil3]
#10320494 - 05/11/09 03:39 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Xobil3 said:
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AmericanPsycho said:
Do they sell the Lye at ACE hardware also?
To my surprise they still do. The price is a bit on the upside compared to online. It's 5.99 for a 1/2 lb of Rooto. But seeing as Home Depot nor Lowes carry lye anymore, ace would have to be your best choice. If you REALLY wanted to get it for cheaper, you could check your local farm supply store.
Yeah I found the same lye that the OP used in his tek, plus the naptha. I bought the rest of the supplies at wal-mart.
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So, I was thinking of going to the grocery store and buying a Styrofoam cooler and dry ice. I'd place the dry ice in a cooler. Place a dish towel over the block of dry ice, and then place the jar with natphta/spice mixture on the dish towel. Since dry ice is about -110F or so, I am hoping it'll be plenty cold for long enough to crystallize. -> Thoughts????
You can get dry ice that easily??? Wow! Better look up the freezing point of naptha before you do this.
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LOL, I checked it out and the only thing I could really find told me that the freezing point of Naphtha is about -70 C. I think the sublimation point of Dry Ice is slightly colder than that, around -78C or so...
Basically this did not work too well LOL. 
After letting the jar of nicely yellow naphtha sit in the cooler with the dry ice (available easily at the grocery store  ) for about 24 hours or so, it appeared that the naphtha had separated into two layers. An upper clear layer and an lower cloudy layer. I also saw what looked to be a nice layer of crystals on the bottom of the jar. When I went to pour the naphtha back into the mason jar with the basified solution, none of the crystals really stuck to the sides of the jar - almost everything went right back into the mix.
I fan-evapped off the remaining naphtha from the jar and got a very timy amount of nicely formed crystals in the jar.
So I figured 1 of 2 things had happened
1. the MHRB really is a very low spice content and there really is not much to capture from this experiment.
or
2. The super-cold temps made the naphtha too viscous to release the crystals totally and that everything was returned to the original mason jar when I poured out the super-cold naphtha.
So working under the assumption that there is probably more to recover, I warmed the mixture back up and the naptha clarified and again looked like urine. So I re-mixed the solution a few times and then removed the natptha again. I have it sitting in my freezer turned to the coldest setting...I should know tomorrow if things are going a little better...
Either way, new bark should be arriving soon
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