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Nature Boy
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: dwpineal]
#10303815 - 05/07/09 07:58 PM (4 years, 15 days ago) |
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Then I weighed the remaining material, and I didn't have exactly 100g of the MHRB, but it was like 99g with the bag, so about 95-98 grams of material finely powdered. Wish me luck and send some positive vibes!
95 - 99 grams is just FINE. No worries. If the yield is poor, it's not for lack of bark mass, much more likely to be due to spice content.
Good to do "double-blind" (or at least side-by-side) studies with source material from different vendors. So long as they are treated similarly (shredded the same, same mass, same chemicals) it's a valid "study."
Do let us know how you make out! And yeah, good luck! 
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Nature Boy]
#10304011 - 05/07/09 08:32 PM (4 years, 15 days ago) |
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I see that you are using the Rooto drain cleaner as NaOH. I am guessing this works just fine? I am thinking I might be able to find some at my local ACE, which would save me about ten bucks to ship two pounds of it here! Should work tho huh?
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HappyCamper15 said: I see that you are using the Rooto drain cleaner as NaOH. I am guessing this works just fine? I am thinking I might be able to find some at my local ACE, which would save me about ten bucks to ship two pounds of it here! Should work tho huh?
As long as it says either 100% lye or 100% NaOH somewhere on the label you should be fine. You can buy both the lye and naptha at ace
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I just got the naphtha at ace! Didnt even think to look while i was there! Figured it wouldnt be on shelves, then I found this thread!
Im pumped to start this project. Now I just need to wait for the bark to get in! I am either going the eBay route and getting a pound of powdered for $65 delivered priority or getting 1.65 pounds straight from brazil for $74, only that takes a couple weeks longer than the eBay order. Or should I just buy 100 grams to start with?
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HappyCamper15 said: I just got the naphtha at ace! Didnt even think to look while i was there! Figured it wouldnt be on shelves, then I found this thread!
Im pumped to start this project. Now I just need to wait for the bark to get in! I am either going the eBay route and getting a pound of powdered for $65 delivered priority or getting 1.65 pounds straight from brazil for $74, only that takes a couple weeks longer than the eBay order. Or should I just buy 100 grams to start with?
It all depends on how much yield you want. Each DMT dose can be anwhere from 10mg-60mg. Using this tek I yielded about 300mg from the first pull alone, but you can do two pulls per 125g MHRB.
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Xobil3]
#10304275 - 05/07/09 09:11 PM (4 years, 15 days ago) |
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Well I will probably buy 100 grams to start. That should be plenty for personal use for me and my friends. I will follow the tek at the start of this thread. Cant wait now!
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report back with results
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Absolutely will. Should be atleast a week before the root bark comes in though. Im currently working on my first bulk shroom grow as well, so I am going to be busy and I love it!
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This is perfect. Thanks SO MUCH, Nature Boy, for posting this and keeping everyone's questions answered... Very well done.
I'm almost finished reading DMT: The Spiritual Molecule.
I can't fricken WAIT to experience my first DMT trip...
I'm off to find some mimosa bark!
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Hey what is the deal with potassium hydroxide? i hear you can only find lye around here with that as an additive. I know its used as a strong base in the drain cleaner.
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poeticphoto said: This is perfect. Thanks SO MUCH, Nature Boy, for posting this and keeping everyone's questions answered... Very well done.
I'm almost finished reading DMT: The Spiritual Molecule.
I can't fricken WAIT to experience my first DMT trip...
I'm off to find some mimosa bark! 
That... is SUCH a good book.
Have you read Breaking Open the Head???
^^ As per your KOH question, Overdose, i dont think it'll work, but i'm not an expert.
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HappyCamper15 said: Im currently working on my first bulk shroom grow as well, so I am going to be busy and I love it!
I bet you do! 
DMT is so frigging awesome, it's made changes to me and the way I see the world, Oh and Optyks, "Breaking Open the Head" is a great read.
OverDoseLiving; if you can get caustic soda - little balls/granules, that's 100% NaOh.
I'm not sure what the deal is with KoH - check out http://msds.chem.ox.ac.uk/PO/potassium_hydroxide.html for the MSDS. I get caustic soda for my extracts and I haven't died or developed cancer (yet)
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dwpineal
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OverdoseLiving said: Hey what is the deal with potassium hydroxide? i hear you can only find lye around here with that as an additive. I know its used as a strong base in the drain cleaner.
KOH is very similar to NaOH in regards to ability to basify a liquid. It should not be a problem at all.
For an update to my little project, I'd waited the required 24 hours for the basified water soak and then this morning added 150mL Naphtha to the mason jar and gently agitated and swirled for a bit. I then left it in a warm place for the day and went to work. When I get home, I'll do some more swirling and agitating and then allow to separate and move forward.
I do have a question in regards to the freezer tho - my refrigerator is a regular unit and I don't think it gets super freezing cold as NB described. I also don't want to turn the dial ALL the way to the cold side and risk over freezing my food (freezer burn or whatever)
So, I was thinking of going to the grocery store and buying a Styrofoam cooler and dry ice. I'd place the dry ice in a cooler. Place a dish towel over the block of dry ice, and then place the jar with natphta/spice mixture on the dish towel. Since dry ice is about -110F or so, I am hoping it'll be plenty cold for long enough to crystallize. -> Thoughts????
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: dwpineal]
#10308623 - 05/08/09 05:07 PM (4 years, 14 days ago) |
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This sounds like a great idea.
If someone where to use that naoh koh solution, should they just use it straight since the ph is likely already below 14? If this was done is it neccesary to heat the naptha/base jar in boiling water before attempting to crystalize?
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: MacGuyver]
#10308659 - 05/08/09 05:16 PM (4 years, 14 days ago) |
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HaHaaa! My friends girlfriend just handed him a jar I guess that had the bottom covered in crystals..... That jar was abandoned days before cause it was presumed a failure!
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dwpineal
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OverdoseLiving said: This sounds like a great idea.
If someone where to use that naoh koh solution, should they just use it straight since the ph is likely already below 14? If this was done is it neccesary to heat the naptha/base jar in boiling water before attempting to crystalize?
Oh wait, is that a liquid solution of NaOH and KOH? If so, it probably has other things in it as well (other than water). I thought you had a crystal KOH + NaOH, so I am just not sure how to advise you on that.
For me, I just got home from work a bit ago and the naphtha solution is now yellow-ish in tint. I've mixed it gently for a bit, but should I also open everything up and mash it up with a fork for a while (x3)? I thought I saw in the thread that someone was using a potato masher, but I only had regular mouth canning jars on hand, so my masher won't fit...
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: dwpineal]
#10309017 - 05/08/09 06:30 PM (4 years, 14 days ago) |
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"So, I was thinking of going to the grocery store and buying a Styrofoam cooler and dry ice. I'd place the dry ice in a cooler. Place a dish towel over the block of dry ice, and then place the jar with natphta/spice mixture on the dish towel. Since dry ice is about -110F or so, I am hoping it'll be plenty cold for long enough to crystallize. -> Thoughts????"
Once I bought 8 pounds or so of dry ice. I put it in my freezer (lowest setting) and the next day it had vanished completely with no trace. I assumed that it was because it evaporated because my freezer was not cold enough but I blamed my roommate for stealing it.
Just plan on buying it as you use it and don't expect to keep large amounts around for longer than a day.
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: dwpineal]
#10309141 - 05/08/09 06:58 PM (4 years, 14 days ago) |
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dwpineal said:
So, I was thinking of going to the grocery store and buying a Styrofoam cooler and dry ice. I'd place the dry ice in a cooler. Place a dish towel over the block of dry ice, and then place the jar with natphta/spice mixture on the dish towel. Since dry ice is about -110F or so, I am hoping it'll be plenty cold for long enough to crystallize. -> Thoughts????
You can get dry ice that easily??? Wow! Better look up the freezing point of naptha before you do this.
Also, dry ice (frozen carbon dioxide) is not a benign substance. Careful handling is required to avoid cold-injured skin! Wear well insulated gloves, like a kitchen mitt at the very least!!
Lastly, make sure the glass doesn't fracture. Any abrupt change in temperature, warm ---> freezing or vice versa will surely risk cracking the jar!!!
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Re: STB tek and pictorial [Re: Nature Boy]
#10310047 - 05/08/09 10:20 PM (4 years, 14 days ago) |
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My friends are about to do a bio assay
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Nature Boy
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WoooHooo! Enjoy and report back. Remember your set and setting!
Loved the part about the abandoned jar that turned productive. I keep saying some time is needed at certain steps, so thanks for the supportive info.
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