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Ordering from HIGH TIMES leads to bust
    #10029344 - 03/23/09 10:51 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Be careful where you order from :sad:

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GRAND RAPIDS -- Wednesday March 18 -- Longtime Press sports columnist David Mayo, accused of growing marijuana in his Northeast Side home, was targeted for investigation after police tracked shipping invoices of a company that advertises in "High Times" magazine, court records showed.

Armed with that information, police sought utility bills, which showed Mayo's electric use was more than twice that of his neighbors.

Police also put his home under surveillance and determined he did not bring his trash to the curb, which is common among marijuana growers, police said.

Investigators in early January also noted a "large amount of mold" under the eaves on the outside of his house, which suggested to them strong grow lights were being used inside the residence, heating the room where marijuana was being grown, and causing condensation on the exterior.

The allegations were contained in search-warrant affidavits made public this week.

Sheriff's Lt. Kevin Kelley confirmed police based the investigation on items shipped by companies that advertised in "High Times" and other pro-marijuana publications.
Courtesy PhotoEvidence: Authorities found Mason jars filled with marijuana buds inside David Mayo's house on Fuller Avenue NE in Plainfideld Township.

Mayo bought, "on 11 occasions, hydroponic growing equipment that is specialized in indoor marijuana growing," according to sheriff's Detective Sgt. Todd Butler, who said local authorities received information from the High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area Program, a project of the Office of National Drug Control Policy.

"Operation Green Thumb has access to shipping invoices from suppliers who advertise their indoor marijuana-growing equipment in magazines such as 'High Times.' David Mayo bought his hydroponic equipment from one of the suppliers that do, in fact, advertise in this (manner)."

Mayo's lawyer, Bruce Block, could not be reached for comment, but earlier said he was reviewing police information to determine whether he should challenge the reason officers had probable cause to enter Mayo's Fuller Avenue NE house Jan. 19.

Mayo is suspended from The Press pending the legal outcome. He awaits trial on charges of growing from 20 to 200 plants, which carries a maximum penalty of seven years in prison, and a high-court misdemeanor charge of maintaining a drug house. Prosecutors have offered to reduce charges to a four-year felony if he pleads guilty.

Police say 71 marijuana plants and 32 ounces of packaged marijuana were found in the home.

Mayo's wife, Denise, awaits trial on charges of marijuana possession and maintaining a drug house.

Both are free on personal recognizance bonds.

Mayo, with no prior criminal record, has worked for The Press since 1985.


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Re: Ordering from HIGH TIMES leads to bust [Re: Holydiver]
    #10029394 - 03/23/09 10:59 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Oh shit! I hope none of the vendors here keep shipping invoices!

It seems like that was merely the tip-off, as they had to secure more information to gather the warrant. Still, that is pretty scary that the cops would use such a tactic.


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Re: Ordering from HIGH TIMES leads to bust [Re: Green_T]
    #10029429 - 03/23/09 11:04 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I've found it safest to assume that there are no lengths to which they will not go in order to bust "some stupid druggie".


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Re: Ordering from HIGH TIMES leads to bust [Re: buddhabadger]
    #10029434 - 03/23/09 11:04 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

They gotta keep you crazies off the streets somehow :evil:


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Re: Ordering from HIGH TIMES leads to bust [Re: Holydiver]
    #10029478 - 03/23/09 11:10 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

God I hate my state, all we have is Ted Nuget, and even that arrogant, blood lusting piece of shit left()he wanted to be drug czar to rid the world of the pot smoking enemies of America, and even wrote in to Obama.


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Re: Ordering from HIGH TIMES leads to bust [Re: Green_T]
    #10029501 - 03/23/09 11:13 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

You guys should read the comments on that page, some of them are golden :hehehe: but seriously, the lawyer is arguing they shouldn't have been able to obtain a warrant based on what he ordered.


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Re: Ordering from HIGH TIMES leads to bust [Re: Green_T]
    #10029522 - 03/23/09 11:16 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

LOL

"Hey Stoners! What goes around comes around. The law is the law. If you're not doing anything wrong, why worry? Police state? Yea,, right."


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Re: Ordering from HIGH TIMES leads to bust [Re: Holydiver]
    #10029589 - 03/23/09 11:24 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Actually, smoking pot would make me a hypocrite. Drinking alcohol means I'm engaging in a legal act. You have a point, though. Alcohol is pretty dangerous, too: drunk driving, alcoholism, etc. I would argue, however, that not only does marijuana have those same dangers as alcohol, there is additional damage to the mental, emotional, and psychological well-being of the user. As I said earlier, it's hard to quantify the damage because it's difficult to legally conduct a study on an illegal substance.




:lol:


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Re: Ordering from HIGH TIMES leads to bust [Re: Holydiver]
    #10029601 - 03/23/09 11:25 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Police also put his home under surveillance and determined he did not bring his trash to the curb, which is common among marijuana growers, police said.





wtf..


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Re: Ordering from HIGH TIMES leads to bust [Re: Holydiver]
    #10029747 - 03/23/09 11:47 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

i order everything to my house and i get down to business at a friends.  i would like them to get a warrant for my house.  i think i would be able to sue.


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Re: Ordering from HIGH TIMES leads to bust [Re: WorldWideWInton]
    #10029781 - 03/23/09 11:52 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

ive heard about high times being a huge burden for a lot of different reasons


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Re: Ordering from HIGH TIMES leads to bust [Re: catboosh]
    #10030536 - 03/24/09 01:56 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Police also put his home under surveillance and determined he did not bring his trash to the curb, which is common among marijuana growers, police said.





wtf..



u took the words right out from under my fingers

ive been to kent county before, its right next to where i live, this guy should kept his mold on the DL....naw but for real that shit is wack


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Re: Ordering from HIGH TIMES leads to bust [Re: Invisible_Woe]
    #10030893 - 03/24/09 04:11 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

They use dump runs to get rid of used soil and unused plant material. Guess they figure they may as well just take it all to the dump.

This guy didn't seem too intelligent and seemed to get away with it for a while.

Using legal electricity for the power.
Not taking normal trash out to the curb.
Not securing/insulating the area enough.
Wouldn't be surprised if it reeked in the area too.
Bought all his supplies from the same place.


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Re: Ordering from HIGH TIMES leads to bust [Re: lumibles]
    #10031074 - 03/24/09 05:54 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

what a bunch of nosey twats police are theese days.  :shakefist:


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Re: Ordering from HIGH TIMES leads to bust [Re: ShroomerRoss]
    #10031202 - 03/24/09 08:11 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Wow, this makes me more paranoid


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Re: Ordering from HIGH TIMES leads to bust [Re: lumibles]
    #10031223 - 03/24/09 08:19 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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lumibles said:
They use dump runs to get rid of used soil and unused plant material. Guess they figure they may as well just take it all to the dump.

This guy didn't seem too intelligent and seemed to get away with it for a while.

Using legal electricity for the power.
Not taking normal trash out to the curb.
Not securing/insulating the area enough.
Wouldn't be surprised if it reeked in the area too.
Bought all his supplies from the same place.



he was obviously high when he did all of this lol


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Re: Ordering from HIGH TIMES leads to bust [Re: Coaster]
    #10031988 - 03/24/09 12:43 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

man that sucks.makes me bit wanna order from their mag.
has some good grow boxes


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Re: Ordering from HIGH TIMES leads to bust [Re: Holydiver]
    #10032070 - 03/24/09 12:58 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

This guy wasn't following some simple rules:  1) Always pay cash/MO and 2) if you must order from somebody, don't ship to the grow house.


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Re: Ordering from HIGH TIMES leads to bust [Re: pothead_bob]
    #10032366 - 03/24/09 01:47 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

ok, let me get this right.

1. the man ordered something from a company that sells a product. Is the product illegal? Guessing no, because he bought it out in the open and had it shipped.

2. He didn't take out his trash?

3. Mold, really.... Mold.

4. high electricity bill?

The best part is if you take away all the BS, and black and white the facts you are left with someone that has the same situation as a hot tub owner. Unless they have stone cold dead on video selling to someone, and he has a decent lawyer and a judge that is not a tool ( aka all of missouri) he should be able to beat this thing.
All the facts they were able to gather on him came AFTER the raid, before they set foot in his house all they had was a guess. Hell and if that is the case then anyone that has ever ordered from a online potting/growing store should be getting their doors kicked in.


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    #10032815 - 03/24/09 03:43 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Huh, how the hell does heating up a room make the outside wall subject to condensation?  The DEA and reporters apparently know very little physics or chemistry if they actually said that shit.



And this is exactly how I've said to doubters that you could be busted by ordering from a sponser.  All they need to do is start recording the mail.


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