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 whattheheck
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 Re: Kettlebell - my progress thread [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#10008916 - 03/20/09 03:11 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Huehuecoyotl said:
I would love to be needing to gain weight....losing it sucks.
Sadly, by 21 I had gotten up to 210+ and a 39 inch waist. That's with a tailors tape. I had graduated at 155 and 29 inches, and it took a LOT of effort to get down low.
My "problem" now is that I eat almost all raw foods, and if not raw, certainly plant based and so on. I am SO healthy, but I am gonna be a skinny kind forever. There was one point in the middle, after I had cut down the fat, where I looked GOOD. But I'd need to gain 30 + pounds to get there again.
It ain't gonna happen. 
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A society whose whole idea is to eliminate suffering and bring it's members the greatest amount of comfort and pleasure is doomed to be destroyed -Thomas Merton
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Huehuecoyotl
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Re: Kettlebell - my progress thread [Re: meams]
#10009208 - 03/20/09 04:08 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ahhhh, I didn't know you two were related - thats clever!
You refer to Icelander I assume as you know Sunflower is my wife. I am related to Ice as well.. On that trip to Oregon I met Ice for the first time in my life. During that trip he told me that he decided that I would be his brother. I agreed to the idea, and we have been related ever since. You should also be aware that Sunflower lost as much weight as I did...it is possible she lost even more poundage. She gives herself no credit, but without her support and encouragement it would not have happened to me. It was also rendered possible by Icelanders guidance and unconditional acceptance.
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Maybe there is no Heaven. Maybe this is all pure gibberish — a product of the demented imagination of a lazy drunken hillbilly with a heart full of hate who has found a way to live out where the real winds blow — to sleep late, have fun, get wild, drink whiskey, and drive fast on empty streets with nothing in mind except falling in love and not getting arrested...
--HST
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Re: Kettlebell - my progress thread [Re: whattheheck]
#10009249 - 03/20/09 04:17 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Even if you are a vegan you need about as many grams of protein as pounds that you weigh. Protein is one of the three necessary macronutrients. A vegan or vegetarian needs even 10% more than a meat eater like myself. Being raw vegan is even harder. Raw foods are good, but if you wanted to build muscle and strength you need a protein source that is solid. Kettlebell guru Mike Mahler is a vegan and he makes it work.
He is certainly no runt.
This article tells how he does it.
http://www.mikemahler.com/articles/vegan_diet.html
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Maybe there is no Heaven. Maybe this is all pure gibberish — a product of the demented imagination of a lazy drunken hillbilly with a heart full of hate who has found a way to live out where the real winds blow — to sleep late, have fun, get wild, drink whiskey, and drive fast on empty streets with nothing in mind except falling in love and not getting arrested...
--HST
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meams
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Re: Kettlebell - my progress thread [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#10009303 - 03/20/09 04:28 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah I knew sunflower was your wife, i'm not that clueless 
that's cool about you and Ice - i got a few guys like that in my life. couldn't live without (or with, hahahah) them. Anyways, here's todays workout:
3/20/09
Warmup:
-Halos (16kg) 3x20
-Squatss (24kg) 3x12
TGUs:
-Got 5 reps/side done with the 24kg. Used a dishtowel wrapped around my arm for a little padding - not used to that extra 8kg yet.
Cooldown:
-Abs
-Stretches
I'm happpy I was able to knock out those 5. It was tough though - i was MUCH less stable than I usually am for the 16kgs. I can tell my elbows aren't used to the weight either; at the top of the rep I can feel a small strain in the joint, like it's just NOT used to that much weight.
Progress 
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Re: Kettlebell - my progress thread [Re: meams]
#10009423 - 03/20/09 04:53 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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ROP -- your ready...
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Maybe there is no Heaven. Maybe this is all pure gibberish — a product of the demented imagination of a lazy drunken hillbilly with a heart full of hate who has found a way to live out where the real winds blow — to sleep late, have fun, get wild, drink whiskey, and drive fast on empty streets with nothing in mind except falling in love and not getting arrested...
--HST
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meams
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Re: Kettlebell - my progress thread [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#10009452 - 03/20/09 04:58 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hell yeah, i'm psyched. I'm going to give ETK another read this weekend, and start the ROP on monday (just so the days match up with the schedule in the book - i like things laid out for me).
Tomorrow i'll practice the C&P and snatch, and sunday will be my rest day. Then, its on to ROP!!!!!
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whattheheck
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Re: Kettlebell - my progress thread [Re: meams]
#10009734 - 03/20/09 05:40 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm clueless, I had no idea ya'll knew each other outside of here, much less that you were related!
Thanks for the hookup on the vegan lifter. I'll never go vegan (I think) but now that I got loads of hemp and some eggs back in the diet I'm feeling good.
I've been around the iron game a while, have quite a few friends who are into it pretty deep. I'm the skinny nerd designing workout and nutrition programs for them. That's part of the reason that KB's attracted me so strongly. They really do combine the best of all worlds, and then some. You can see the synergy before you even use them if you know what you're looking at.
You guys are awesome! One and all!!
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A society whose whole idea is to eliminate suffering and bring it's members the greatest amount of comfort and pleasure is doomed to be destroyed -Thomas Merton
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meams
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Re: Kettlebell - my progress thread [Re: whattheheck]
#10009835 - 03/20/09 06:03 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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You should all come to the NE '09 gathering if you're not planning on it already. The info is in the gathering subforum.
It'd be great to meet you guys 
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meams
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Re: Kettlebell - my progress thread [Re: meams]
#10009934 - 03/20/09 06:25 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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DO NOT kettlebell while you're high.
I just had the great idea to do some practice snatches and definitely smacked myself in the head w/ the 16kg, HARD. I don't know what I did - whether I didn't lock it out high enough, or maybe after the lockout I snatched it straight down... Who knows.
It hurt. I have ice on it - big bump, no blood 
Edited by meams (03/20/09 06:31 PM)
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 sunflower
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Re: Kettlebell - my progress thread [Re: meams]
#10010078 - 03/20/09 06:57 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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LOL, sad, but it made me laugh....btw..don't do that!
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whattheheck
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Re: Kettlebell - my progress thread [Re: sunflower]
#10010387 - 03/20/09 07:52 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, that's part of the reason, along with age and wisdom, I don't do it anymore. Not a good way to lose your high.
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A society whose whole idea is to eliminate suffering and bring it's members the greatest amount of comfort and pleasure is doomed to be destroyed -Thomas Merton
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Cannashroom
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Re: Kettlebell - my progress thread [Re: whattheheck]
#10012967 - 03/21/09 09:37 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I once hit myself in the hip with a kettlebell doing cleans I think. The thing is my right hip is kinda messed up (deformed illiac crest) from falling off my mountain bike at 13, so I hit myself in this little bone bump that comes off my hip,. I was completely sober tho, but it hurt for a few days. As for being high, if you don't smoke often its not a good idea. I'm a daily toker, so it really doesn't affect me much. I also do lots of sports, and exercise high so I have a good coordination, and sense of body in space.
Anyways, yesterday at the gym I was getting my snatch form down. Once i get to the point where I can do 20 snatches with PERFECT form each arm switching once with the 12kg I will move up to 16. The 16 is too heavy for me to get good form consistently right now.
I am at the point where I am getting it perfect about 70% of the time. And when I do it feels so amazing--The bell comes up to the perfect place in the arc, I punch my hand up and I can't even feel the bell landing on my arm. I still get the odd one where it goes a bit to high or low and bangs my forearm a bit, but I am improving quickly. I didn't too too many though because I played squash with my roommate after. Anyone here play squash? It is such an incredible workout if you have someone at your own level. My roommate and I are so close in skill we have such incredible matches, I love it. Hopefully after a full summer of kettle bell training I will be able to dominate.
I am coming home from university on May 1st, and then I want to buy my own kettle bell. It will suck not having an entire set of bells to use at the gym, but having my own will be great. Having to go to the gym to do use the kettle bell discourages me from going every day to do a different workout with it (along with midterms, blah!). But in the summer I am going to buy myself a bell so right now I am trying to get myself up to using a 20kg for TGUs and Snatches by May 1st. This may be a bit hard, because classes end in a few weeks and I will be spending most of my time studying.
Ok, Whattheheck, I will tell you my secret for gaining/keeping weight on raw, mostly plant based diet.
First off, I do not eat meat often, but I eat organic, free range eggs daily. In the mornings I make a power smoothie:
2eggs, 7 bananas, 2 scoops chia seeds, 2 scoops hemp powder, 1 scoop maca powder, some frozen berries, but of hemp milk and antioxidant juice.
This is the key to my daily nutrition, with around 40 grams of protein and around 1000 calories is a great way to start the day. Your body's metabolism is most active in the morning so you can deal with so much food more easily.
This helps me get enough calories to build muscle when doing so much exercise. Next throughout the day (usually I am at school) I will eat a variety more fruit, veggies nuts and seeds. I recommend eating fruits and veggies before nuts if you get gas like me (now that I eat a mostly raw diet I only get gas when I mix the wrong foods, or in the wrong order, like eating a bunch of nuts and then drinking a smoothie gives me terrible gas, but the other way around is fine). So during the day I will eat a lot more fruit consistently to keep blood sugar constant, I have recently gotten into figs (great source of calcium for vegans) so Id eat 4-5 figs, few oranges, few apples or pears, maybe some more bananas and some nuts or seeds (I like Brazil nuts, almonds, cashews, pumpkin seeds, hemp seeds).
So by the time dinner has gotten around on a day where I am trying to eat lots, like after a workout, I will have eaten 1500-2000 calories. But as you can see, not too much protein, so here is my savior.
QUINOA!! (pronounced: KEEN WA)
The only grain with a complete protein, Quinoa has around 370 calories (52 grams starch), 16g of protein/100g, and around the same amount of fibre (some brands have less, the good ones are closer to 15g). It is a great source of essential minerals and vitamins, in 100g:
Thiamine (Vit. B1) 0.36 mg 28%
Riboflavin (Vit. B2) 0.32 mg 21%
Vitamin B6 0.5 mg 38%
Folate (Vit. B9) 184 μg 46%
Vitamin E 2.4 mg 16%
Iron 4.6 mg 37%
Magnesium 197 mg 53%
Phosphorus 457 mg 65%
Zinc 3.1 mg 31%
It is also a good source of copper. From the values it is plain to see it is a nutritional powerhouse, and great for anyone. I have replaced everything I used to eat that was starch, potatoes (I eat sweet potatoes though), pasta, bread, rice etc. with quinoa. After a workout it is stellar, replaces all that lost glycogen and gives lots of protein.
Use it for anything! Favorites of mine: onion and Raw cheese scrambled eggs on Quinoa, vegetarian chili, or curry (Red Thai curry with onion, pepper, sweet potato and chick peas is to die for) on quinoa. Cold quinoa in the fridge? Throw it in a salad for more calories and protein (just tried this, was amazing, with hot or cold quinoa).
Cooking: Rinse soapy coating off quinoa:
Mix: 1 cup quinoa and 1.5-2 cups of water in a pot, bring to a boil and then simmer 15-20 minutes until the quinoa has absorbed the water and you see the sprout come out of the shell.
I like to add some sea salt, turmeric, cumin, Cayenne , cinnamon sometimes.
I also eat big salads with hemp and pumpkin seeds, and now quinoa too.
Also fresh kale, celery, broccoli and apple/pear juice is incredible after a workout, gives a bit of protein and lots of important nutrients.
So, if you need more protein, EAT QUINOA!
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"A human being is part of the whole, called by us 'Universe'; a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest -- a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness.
This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and affection for a few persons nearest us.
Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole nature in its beauty.
Nobody is able to achieve this completely but striving for such achievement is, in itself, a part of the liberation and a foundation for inner security."
Albert Einstein
Edited by Cannashroom (03/21/09 09:40 AM)
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meams
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Re: Kettlebell - my progress thread [Re: Cannashroom]
#10013041 - 03/21/09 09:49 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I like steak
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Cannashroom
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Re: Kettlebell - my progress thread [Re: Cannashroom]
#10013052 - 03/21/09 09:50 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Also If you like fish eat fatty salmon and tuna. Raw > Cooked > Canned (I eat canned being a poor student). I don't eat it too often, but I just love salmon so much and it is so important for health, especially mental.
My dad was a professional sockeye salmon fisherman for 29 years, so my brothers and I grew up on salmon. I am 100% sure that one of the reasons my family is so intelligent is the amount of fish we ate. My brother and I were eating salmon from under a year I think and are both very smart.
It is good protein for muscles and the the fats are too important not to eat.
If you are worried about Hg in fish, then drink a glass of juice mixed with 1 spoonful of chlorella before eating fish. It will absorb any Hg in the fish into it's cell wall for pooping out, before it can enter your body.
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"A human being is part of the whole, called by us 'Universe'; a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest -- a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness.
This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and affection for a few persons nearest us.
Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole nature in its beauty.
Nobody is able to achieve this completely but striving for such achievement is, in itself, a part of the liberation and a foundation for inner security."
Albert Einstein
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Cannashroom
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Re: Kettlebell - my progress thread [Re: Cannashroom]
#10013106 - 03/21/09 10:00 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Steak is good for building muscle, BUT:
Unless it is grass fed it will be unhealthy
BBQ, is the tastiest, but most carcinogenic cooking form
The thing about my diet is it keeps my metabolism at such a high level. I need to eat around 2700+ calories a day to maintain my weight, so gaining weight is hard since I don't enjoy eating over 3k calories a day. Since I eat such a large volume of food with all the fruit and veggies my digestive tract can only hold so much if you get my drift (I poop enough already eating all that fruit, lol).
With this sort of metabolism, getting really cut is so easy. I can bulk up a bit with lots of protein and calories, and then just eat more fruit and salads while doing exercise and fat just melts away. It took me a while of losing weight (I went down to around 148, I'm back around 155 now) when I went mostly raw to get to a point where I could eat enough to maintain this weight.
I am not trying to gain much weight right now, but with the kettle bells and my diet, I am getting more ripped every day.
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"A human being is part of the whole, called by us 'Universe'; a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest -- a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness.
This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and affection for a few persons nearest us.
Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole nature in its beauty.
Nobody is able to achieve this completely but striving for such achievement is, in itself, a part of the liberation and a foundation for inner security."
Albert Einstein
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whattheheck
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Re: Kettlebell - my progress thread [Re: Cannashroom]
#10013235 - 03/21/09 10:24 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've never given quinoa a chance. I need to. I also added eggs back in, and they're working out for me just fine, which I am happy to see.
Thanks man.
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A society whose whole idea is to eliminate suffering and bring it's members the greatest amount of comfort and pleasure is doomed to be destroyed -Thomas Merton
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Cannashroom
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Re: Kettlebell - my progress thread [Re: whattheheck]
#10014203 - 03/21/09 01:04 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Find a good brand that has the soapy coating removed, otherwise it is bitter and the saponin acts as a laxative. If it is soapy just rinse it really well until water doesn't becomes soapy when mixed with it.
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"A human being is part of the whole, called by us 'Universe'; a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest -- a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness.
This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and affection for a few persons nearest us.
Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole nature in its beauty.
Nobody is able to achieve this completely but striving for such achievement is, in itself, a part of the liberation and a foundation for inner security."
Albert Einstein
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whattheheck
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Registered: 06/01/07
Posts: 7,380
Loc: Denver Colorado
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Re: Kettlebell - my progress thread [Re: Cannashroom]
#10014582 - 03/21/09 02:06 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wonder if the bulk stuff at Whole Foods is straight? Any brand recommends?
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A society whose whole idea is to eliminate suffering and bring it's members the greatest amount of comfort and pleasure is doomed to be destroyed -Thomas Merton
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Re: Kettlebell - my progress thread [Re: whattheheck]
#10016440 - 03/21/09 07:23 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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It is pre-washed. hemp seed is also a complete protein. Bean and rice combinations work too.
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Maybe there is no Heaven. Maybe this is all pure gibberish — a product of the demented imagination of a lazy drunken hillbilly with a heart full of hate who has found a way to live out where the real winds blow — to sleep late, have fun, get wild, drink whiskey, and drive fast on empty streets with nothing in mind except falling in love and not getting arrested...
--HST
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Re: Kettlebell - my progress thread [Re: whattheheck]
#10016939 - 03/21/09 09:03 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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whattheheck said:
I've never given quinoa a chance. I need to. I also added eggs back in, and they're working out for me just fine, which I am happy to see.
Thanks man.
Quinoa rocks! Also try Millet.
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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