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nw_shroomy
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Chanterelle???
#9990160 - 03/17/09 07:14 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Can they be grown in doors? Not much info on them.
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SuchSmartMonkeys
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no... there is a bit of information out there on the matter. They managed to grow chanterelles in a lab setting, but it was far from spectacular... can't find the pics now, they're pretty fuckin funny. It's a tiny little Chanterelle pin growing out of a potted doug fir (i'm pretty sure...). Only real way to do it is to plant saplings where you know chanterelles are already growing, let them grow for a while, then replant them somewhere else in hopes that the mycorrhizal relationship has been made...
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Most Mushrooms that are associated with a Live Tree Host are said to have a Mycorrhizal relationship.
Most(all?) Mycorrhizal mushrooms arent able to be grown indoors, unless you have its Live Tree Host.
Some people have made Spawn, Spore Slurries, or Liquid Culture, and tried to inoculate the ground under the proper Live Tree Host.
Even then, it rarely works, ive seen it work on and off with a few mushrooms though, Amanita muscaria to name 1!
I say if you pick lots of them during your hunting season, wash your batches in a 5gal bucket saving the water and pour that water out in their habitat, the same has worked for Morel hunters.
But as for fruiting indoors, if that were probable, there wouldn't be such a large market for ones picked in the wild.
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nw_shroomy
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thanks for the info ppl... I hear they are really good.
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CptnGarden
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they are delicious, and they smell great both fresh and dried.
as for a description of the taste? they taste like the dirt they were picked in!
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nw_shroomy
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Like dirt.lol,are you sure you want to say dirt tastes good lol
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nw_shroomy
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One more thing why is it that everyone says the best mushrooms are the two we cant grow indoors?and now out doors?(shakes head)
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well.. mushroomydirt
but yeah they do indeed, taste like dirt. not necessarily a bad thing.
most people dont fry them up plain though, i tried them with some grapeseed oil and garlic, topped with a sprinkle of parmesian. they were OK this way, but Alan Rockefeller made some killer homemade Alfredo with them in it that was  most people tend to mention dishes that require a cream sauce when speaking of recipes for these, I think they go very good with it.
im soon to try some in soups, ill let u know how it is.
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cool
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Pennsylvania State University got them to grow indoors in a lab.
Hey can't you find an avatar that's a lil less distracting?
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Re: Chanterelle??? [Re: AcidHorse]
#9991571 - 03/17/09 10:47 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
AcidHorse said: Pennsylvania State University got them to grow indoors in a lab.
Hey can't you find an avatar that's a lil less distracting?
I could but then what would I look at while waiting for ppl to respond.
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While we're kinda on the topic, and not to thread jack but....
What's so hard about cultivating plants and mycelium together? How come we dont see any attempts at mycorhizal grows at all?
Is there more at play than just plant roots?
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Re: Chanterelle??? [Re: RedBeerd]
#9992977 - 03/18/09 03:56 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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RedBeerd said:
Is there more at play than just plant roots?
Well there's a good question. It seems that if just a live host and acceptable substrate were all that are required, mycorrhizal cultivation would be easy... There must be more to it... ?
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Re: Chanterelle??? [Re: didjin_d]
#9994215 - 03/18/09 12:36 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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The chanterelle experiment involved growing chanterelles with pine seedlings. I've attempted to contact the mycologist who successfully did this, but I got no response. I think he's still associated with Berkeley.
According to Stamets in Mycelium Running, mycorrhizae can be transferred to new host trees by placing stem butts in the root zones of suitable host plants. There's also the spore slurry method. I'm still interested in trying this with the air layering method of plant propagation, but I have to wait for chanterelles to come up here for that.
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SuchSmartMonkeys
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i don't know what that guy is talking about, "they taste like dirt"... They taste delicious, and not much like the dirt they grow out of (i've found them growing out of some nasty dirt, dude). They have a sweet smell of apricots almost, so fucking good. Best way to cook them is to dry saute first, because they have a lot of water in them, then eat on their own, or add to whatever. Just try adding some olive oil, garlic, and tomatos and spread on bread, fucking tasty dude...
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