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 Are there any functional opiate users out there? 
#9957348 - 03/12/09 08:45 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have noticed that lots of people (Shroomerites included) have a very negative opinion of opiates. This is completely understandable, considering the many casualties of opiate addiction.
I have let myself go on opiates a few times, where I ended up going through some nasty withdrawals in order to clean up. I am the type of person who has a consistent track record of learning things the hard way, so I feel that the dependancy I had for opiates in the past taught me how to have a responsible relationship with them now.
I must say that I use opiates weekly (every Friday), so I can understand if some Shroomerites say that I have a problem with opiates. I cannot deny that my "success" with using opiates is based on my own relative understanding that I am not abusing them, due to the fact that I do not have to deal with physical dependance as a result of my current use.
I am aware that one's addiction can be analyzed according to his physical or mental dependancies. I understand that while I say I have no current physical dependancy to opiates, the mental dependancy may be there, seeing as how I use opiates as frequently as possible without having to endure the withdrawals. However, my reason for this thread is to hear of others' hands-on experience with living and possibly enjoying life while using opiates.
I am not looking for advice, I am just interested in your experiences with opiates, and how you may or may not have been able to live a functional life under their influence.
Do any of you feel that you are responsible opiate users?
Have you been more irresponsible with opiates in the past?
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 Re: Are there any functional opiate users out there? [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
#9957564 - 03/12/09 09:34 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I am a responsible opiate user. I often only use them when I'm in actual pain. The last time I took them, it was 30mg of codeine for a nasty cough/sore throat I was dealing with in January. I have in the past used these drugs recreationally (namely codeine, hydrocodone and poppy tea), but not more than two to three times in a year and only in light doses. The closest I came to abuse was during college when I would partake on average once every two to three weeks, and had been working my doses up markedly from where I had began. Fortunately, I quit that behavior within a few months, before physical dependency or withdrawal entered into the picture.
I've little desire to use opiates currently, as they require fairly large blocks of time where I won't be very productive. Most noticeably, they make me sleep away most of the morning! Granted, it's some of the most comfortable sleep ever... but I don't have trouble sleeping anyway, so that's not a great incentive for me as these days I really enjoy getting up early and having more sunlight to work with.
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Re: Are there any functional opiate users out there? [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
#9957587 - 03/12/09 09:40 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I use to do oxys when I was 18, two years ago, then when I decided I was sick of blowing money on it, I switched to pod tea, and I LOVE it so much more. I enjoy the nod more and its cheaper. I got addicted and had bad WD for a week when I was 19 and I cleaned up that act of using them everyday. I now use pod tea about once, maybe twice a week. Now I have no problems, it doesn't effect me anymore and I feel that I now know the dangers of getting into an addiction.
I feel that I can use it responsibly and I know that I do. I sometimes go to work on opiates and some coffee, definitely helps out the day. I can function fine on opiates, they don't get in my way. Of course I'm not taking large doses if I go to work.
I feel like I have all drug use under control now, I don't think I'll ever be addicted to something again, I now always make sure to know all the dangers, so the withdrawls I had definitely made me open my eyes.
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Re: Are there any functional opiate users out there? [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
#9957599 - 03/12/09 09:42 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've never gotten to the point of true dope sickness, just a little puke here and there. I'd say I use opiates about 2 or 3 days out of every month. They're fuckin expensive, but I'll take an OC80 over a bag that's cut to shit any day.
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Re: Are there any functional opiate users out there? [Re: geokills]
#9957622 - 03/12/09 09:50 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wow. Your "abuse" sounds more conservative than what I consider my "responsible" use!
This goes to show that the definition of "abuse" is a matter of personal perspective.
I also found it interesting that opiates made you sleepy.
On the contrary, when I am on opiates, I am highly motivated.
That is, unless I am nodding, but that only happens around bedtime for me, after being nice and high for 15+ hours.
Thanks for the post!
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Re: Are there any functional opiate users out there? [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
#9957630 - 03/12/09 09:54 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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 I normally only end up taking pod tea about 5-7 times a month, which isn't that much. I rarely take an opiate twice a week, it depends on how its going. Opiates help me sleep which I have trouble with, but weed helps too. Opiates make me motivated as well yeah, besides nodding, hella hard to do anything like that.. hard to keep eyes open let alone do anything.
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Re: Are there any functional opiate users out there? [Re: feifen]
#9957656 - 03/12/09 10:01 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've been popping a few vicodin before work about once a week and it helps me get through the day so much better.
I do better work, dont mind my annoying co-workers, and time goes by way faster.
Lately I've been using Kratom rather than any opiates and it fills the gap quite well.
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Re: Are there any functional opiate users out there? [Re: feifen]
#9957663 - 03/12/09 10:03 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Our habits seem similar.
I drink pod tea on Fridays, because I find it extremely difficult to go to work sober the day after having pod tea.
In the past, any time I start in the beginning or middle of the week, it is the start of a binge, because I will continue to fix myself up for the remainder of the week, making it harder to stop on the weekends.
Taking pod tea any more than once a week would lead me into a dangerous direction. 
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Re: Are there any functional opiate users out there? [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
#9963696 - 03/13/09 07:29 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well, it's Friday and I am feeling fine!
I don't know what is better the initial come-up or the nodding at the end of the day!
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Re: Are there any functional opiate users out there? [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
#9963789 - 03/13/09 08:07 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I used to give great praise to opiates. I used to look at addicts and think to myself, "I will never get that way, how could they get that deep into addiction?".I Drank pod tea once a month, then twice a month, then every week, onto multiple times a week. In a span of two years I went from enjoying a heavy nod once in a blue moon, to taking it all the time just to feel normal. I NEVER NEVER NEVER in a million years thought I would turn my use into a habit. I do not look down upon opiates, because in moderation it is purely AMAZING. But I will always remember the darkside of opiates.
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Re: Are there any functional opiate users out there? [Re: danlennon3]
#9963834 - 03/13/09 08:21 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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dont look down on any drug, shoot up arsenic for all I care I just don't bother with people that are into them and I don't want to come across wrong because I made a stereotype but you're right, EVERY single person I know that uses opiates has fallen into that stereotype of o "opiate user is over don't leave the wallet lying around." I'm sure you may be a good guy and not have an addiction but it's the truth, every opiate user i know doesnt have a grip on it and is addicted.
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Re: Are there any functional opiate users out there? [Re: danlennon3]
#9964025 - 03/13/09 09:21 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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danlennon3 said:
I used to give great praise to opiates. I used to look at addicts and think to myself, "I will never get that way, how could they get that deep into addiction?".I Drank pod tea once a month, then twice a month, then every week, onto multiple times a week. In a span of two years I went from enjoying a heavy nod once in a blue moon, to taking it all the time just to feel normal. I NEVER NEVER NEVER in a million years thought I would turn my use into a habit. I do not look down upon opiates, because in moderation it is purely AMAZING. But I will always remember the darkside of opiates.
So, you use them occasionally now?
I credit my brush with the "dark side of opiates" to teaching me how to enjoy them responsibly.
Is this how you feel, or do you steer clear of opiates totally?
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Re: Are there any functional opiate users out there? [Re: PreparationH]
#9964050 - 03/13/09 09:29 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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dont look down on any drug, shoot up arsenic for all I care I just don't bother with people that are into them and I don't want to come across wrong because I made a stereotype but you're right, EVERY single person I know that uses opiates has fallen into that stereotype of o "opiate user is over don't leave the wallet lying around." I'm sure you may be a good guy and not have an addiction but it's the truth, every opiate user i know doesnt have a grip on it and is addicted.
I don't think that is the truth, brother.
All the opiate users you know may behave irresponsibly, but you do not know all opiate users.
Your perspective is very common. That is one of the reasons I wanted to hear people's experience or knowledge of responsible opiate users: to validate my hypothesis that there are responsible opiate users who, at the least, enjoy opiates regularly without succumbing to the horrors of physical addiction.
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Re: Are there any functional opiate users out there? [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
#9964081 - 03/13/09 09:36 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I love opiates, but I will never buy them. I know I could get addicted way too easily, so I only look forward to when someone will trade me or just hand them to me.
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Re: Are there any functional opiate users out there? [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
#9964085 - 03/13/09 09:37 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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i'm sure there is, I sure as hell haven't met that person yet. Maybe you're that person who knowns. It's just of the 15 or so people I grew up with who tried it turned into different people and they're just doin the same shit since high school: getting high & gettin their pills ready for tomorrow. this is just my case though and the place I live, im not closed minded I dont really stereotype all people who recreationally use opiates as junkies it's just in this neighborhood THATS THE CASE.
If i offend you you're missing the point so i'm not gonna defend my stance on why everyone i know thats tried opiates succumbed to years of wrecking their bodies and changing who they are. It's not what I think, it is what I have seen.
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Re: Are there any functional opiate users out there? [Re: PreparationH]
#9964114 - 03/13/09 09:44 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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you guys claim to do it less than 4 times a month, all 15 or so of the friends i mentioned do it probably 4 times a week. they aren't even my friends anymore besides maybe two guys who wouldnt sell me out for oxy's. The worst part about it is the fact that growing up most of these kids stole this junk from bathroom cabinets and it's snowballed into a full fledged opiate addiction for them. Meh serves them right for knocking my mushrooms saying they drive you insane. The only insane thing is how beat the fuck up their bodies are now, my close friend who got into all of this (sober now) went from a regular looking dude, little belly fat(normal beer drinker) to skin and bone. Its disgusting, best of luck just remember you're playing with fire, a fire some people (like myself) try to ban from their vocabulary seeing what it has done to people. Recreational opiate use sounds like recreational setting yourself ablaze. Done right no problem, done wrong grave danger. I'm ranting I just see my friends and think no fuck all that noise.
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Re: Are there any functional opiate users out there? [Re: PreparationH]
#9964196 - 03/13/09 10:04 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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you guys claim to do it less than 4 times a month, all 15 or so of the friends i mentioned do it probably 4 times a week. they aren't even my friends anymore besides maybe two guys who wouldnt sell me out for oxy's. The worst part about it is the fact that growing up most of these kids stole this junk from bathroom cabinets and it's snowballed into a full fledged opiate addiction for them. Meh serves them right for knocking my mushrooms saying they drive you insane. The only insane thing is how beat the fuck up their bodies are now, my close friend who got into all of this (sober now) went from a regular looking dude, little belly fat(normal beer drinker) to skin and bone. Its disgusting, best of luck just remember you're playing with fire, a fire some people (like myself) try to ban from their vocabulary seeing what it has done to people. Recreational opiate use sounds like recreational setting yourself ablaze. Done right no problem, done wrong grave danger. I'm ranting I just see my friends and think no fuck all that noise.
Many many many people fall victim to their own stupidity.
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Re: Are there any functional opiate users out there? [Re: PreparationH]
#9964314 - 03/13/09 10:35 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I hear you dude.
No, I am not offended at all.
I totally understand and respect your point of view.
I know that you are not trying to stereotype people, but what can you do if the stereotype of a junkie fits the opiate users you know so well?
I hope your friends get themselves together.
Just because I consider myself a responsible opiate user does not at all mean that I think I am better than people who are having a hard time with opiates.
Hell, I have been there.
The only reason I don't do opiates to what I consider excess is the consequences of tolerance and withdrawals that come with regular use.
Some people would still consider me a junkie, though.
It is all subjective.
Thanks for your insight into this topic!
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Re: Are there any functional opiate users out there? [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
#9964328 - 03/13/09 10:42 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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best of luck brother
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Re: Are there any functional opiate users out there? [Re: PreparationH]
#9964675 - 03/13/09 11:51 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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i was a "functional" user. I worked hard & went to school & did good. But the doses i was shooting were going to kill me eventually from resp failure or OD (too many nights waking up on the bathroom floor w/ a blue face).
Quitting was what seemed to fuck shit up; school suffered, work, my depression, mental illneses, & especially my chronic pain came back.
Im on schizo & anti-anxiety meds now along w/ suboxone. w/ my fucked up back/neck, i could easily get on good op8 meds, but i feel safest on suboxone bc its a full antagonist, & only gives slight pain-releif... of course, i suffer everyday from my pain.
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